Social "Time to Tip the Scales!" - Robin Social Thread

[Hong]

@ Elezir
Yeah. I like that one. You should watch this, if you haven't:

Between translating it and YouTube handling an SWF, some of the animations are off-sync. That aside, it's still nice.

 

[Chapter Serf]

TES VI? wut?
Have they even announced it yet?

No, but I'm still looking forward to it.

Hopefully it will involve the mass killing of Thalmor filth. Every time I saw that scum wandering around Skyrim, I always went out of my way to get them to attack me so I could kill them.

Down with the Stormcloaks.
Down with the Thalmor.
Down with the Dark Brotherhood (yes, you can kill them and destroy them).
Long live the Empire.

 

[LIQUID12A]

Long live the Empire.

Yes, long live the Empire, be rid of the rebel scum!

Oh wait, wrong Empire.

I hate your Empire. Your Empire doesn't have flying ships and evil overlords.

 

[Elezir]

@ Elezir
Yeah. I like that one. You should watch this, if you haven't:

Between translating it and YouTube handling an SWF, some of the animations are off-sync. That aside, it's still nice.

Ohhh shiny!
This one is very nice, too.
I still liked the other one more, even though the animator took some liberties with plot. The details there were impressive, and I'm not talking about the way it was animated only, either.
Earthbound needs more love, even if I can understand why Itoi decided to stop the franchise there.
I wouldn't mind if another game with a more separated was made, as long as it retained the serie's sense of humor.

No, but I'm still looking forward to it.

Hopefully it will involve the mass killing of Thalmor filth. Every time I saw that scum wandering around Skyrim, I always went out of my way to get them to attack me so I could kill them.

Down with the Stormcloaks.
Down with the Thalmor.
Down with the Dark Brotherhood (yes, you can kill them and destroy them).
Long live the Empire.

Yeah, I know you can destroy the Dark Brotherhood of Skyrim. (doesn't mean you can destroy all the Dark Brotherhood, though)
And I never sided with anyone there. Everyone is a jerk, imo, including the Empire.

Either way, I think that the next Elder Scrolls should be about Aldmeri Dominion, principally after reading about it's lore. It would be nice to finally break the Aldmeri Dominion apart, for example.

 

[Kenith]

So I'm doing a Normal/Classic run in Awakening since I've never actually beaten the game in Classic (that I can remember) and I haven't played the game in ages so I figured why not.
It took me forever and decide on an avatar though, but ultimately this is what I chose:

(Voice 3)
Least favorite build due to the hairstyles and the cleavage, but after seeing the expressions I was sold.
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Alas, I'm already considering changing the difficulty to Hard...is there any incentive to do so?
The game feels way too easy atm.
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Also, I'm at Chapter 5 and OMFG Emmeryn is such a stupid person.

 

[LIQUID12A]

Alas, I'm already considering changing the difficulty to Hard...is there any incentive to do so?
The game feels way too easy atm.

Bragging rights reward for beating it on Hard.

Nothing else tmk.

 

[Hong]

The reason for playing a game with a higher difficulty is a more engaging and satisfying experience. Back in the day we didn't have stuff like achievements or nude costume unlocks for beating the game with increased difficulty (Samus stripped down doesn't count). If it's one thing to have a general social culture that is more and more pushing self-entitlement into the youth, it's worse to have games try to infer a harder play experience should mean greater reward, because the whole reason why you play that game is the reward of a fun experience. For some of us, we play with harder difficulty because it's way more satisfying to overcome hardships that are actually hard. For others, they can't relax if they feel something is too difficult so they stick with easy difficulties. Both camps are fine.

Games that give you absolutely nothing at all for beating the game on a harder difficulty are just fine, to me.

Of course, one must be reasonable. If added difficulty effectively takes features out of the game or has fake difficulty (Lunatic+), then yeah it's bugger and just a worse experience and you may as well play Mario Party if you want dice rolls to have such a massive consequence on your success. That aside, if the core experience is still the same, personally I rather play all my games on the hardest difficulty on my first go.

 

[Kenith]

The reason for playing a game with a higher difficulty is a more engaging and satisfying experience. Back in the day we didn't have stuff like achievements or nude costume unlocks for beating the game with increased difficulty (Samus stripped down doesn't count). If it's one thing to have a general social culture that is more and more pushing self-entitlement into the youth, it's worse to have games try to infer a harder play experience should mean greater reward, because the whole reason why you play that game is the reward of a fun experience. For some of us, we play with harder difficulty because it's way more satisfying to overcome hardships that are actually hard. For others, they can't relax if they feel something is too difficult so they stick with easy difficulties. Both camps are fine.
Games that give you absolutely nothing at all for beating the game on a harder difficulty are just fine, to me.
Of course, one must be reasonable. If added difficulty effectively takes features out of the game or has fake difficulty (Lunatic+), then yeah it's bugger and just a worse experience and you may as well play Mario Party if you want dice rolls to have such a massive consequence on your success. That aside, if the core experience is still the same, personally I rather play all my games on the hardest difficulty on my first go.

Well,I guess it doesn't matter because I have reset my file and plan to play on Hard/Classic later today.
I really need that DLC though.

 

[the king of murder]

I heard so many horror stories of Lunatic that I am asking myself if it is really worth it to try since I am still kinda new in terms of actually playing the FE games(I have watched some RD and PoR playthroughs)

@ Elezir
Yeah. I like that one. You should watch this, if you haven't:

Between translating it and YouTube handling an SWF, some of the animations are off-sync. That aside, it's still nice.

I think the original game states that it is courage, wisdom and friendship instead of power(Zelda reference?) that form the story,heh. Aside from that I like how heartwarming this video comes across. I guess Mother series are not as popular as Cash Cows cause it appears kinda strange to others(for example all the Chimeras in Mother 3) so they don't know what the game is really about. All the strangeness with a strong mix of heartwarming and sad emotions has really appealed to me however. Really sad there won't be another official Mother game

Also I recently recruited Walmart Walhart. I read his description...he is a devout vegetarian? And Priam loves meat, oh the fight that will result will be epic. I can imagine that if Walhart says "Eat your vegetables" in a booming voice nobody would object to that.XD

 

[The_Cardinal]

I heard so many horror stories of Lunatic that I am asking myself if it is really worth it to try since I am still kinda new in terms of actually playing the FE games(I have watched some RD and PoR playthroughs)

Awakening is my first FE (I strangely don't count Shadow Dragons) and I did lunatic classic my second playthrough and it was just fine, fun even after the first few chapters. I'd say give it to go.

Although admittedly, as an old school gamer I am, as your picture points out, a bit of a masochist when it comes to games. There were so many inconveniences back then that they eventually built character....is what I like to tell myself when I look at modern conveniences like saving in the middle of battle, being fully healed after battle, and teleporting to locations without the need to backtrack on foot and worry about random encounters.

 

[Antonykun]

So I'm doing a Normal/Classic run in Awakening since I've never actually beaten the game in Classic (that I can remember) and I haven't played the game in ages so I figured why not.
It took me forever and decide on an avatar though, but ultimately this is what I chose:
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(Voice 3)
Least favorite build due to the hairstyles and the cleavage, but after seeing the expressions I was sold.
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Alas, I'm already considering changing the difficulty to Hard...is there any incentive to do so?
The game feels way too easy atm.
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Also, I'm at Chapter 5 and OMFG Emmeryn is such a stupid person.

just wait until Chapter 9...

 

[Kenith]

just wait until Chapter 9...

I've beat the game before, I still think she's way too forgiving and she should have just let Chrom murder Gangrel.

 

[Hong]

I think Bravely Default has my favourite difficulty model.

Look at that: You let players turn off random encounters.

Even in the midst of a dungeon.

With no immediate penalty.

And the world didn't burn down.

How shocking.

But really, though. There are so many ways you can play that game, and you don't need to artificially create barriers for yourself just to make the difficulty you like a little harder. For instance, I play that game with halved encounter rates. This means the dungeons are shorter, but the bosses are absolutely brutal with a lower level and poor equipment.

Would be cool if Fire Emblem: if just let you switch Casual/Classic or Normal/Hard/Lunatic on the fly, between chapters. Especially since enemy stats don't load until you enter a battle, so you can change it depending on how you feel. Is a chapter too hard for you? Fine, turn down the difficulty. People might have a knee-jerk response like "THAT'S TAKING THE EASY WAY OUT YOU SHOULD OVERCOME YOUR DEMONS", and for me, sure. I'll revise my strategy and try again.

But that's how I like to play my games, and the way I play games isn't better than anyone else's. Some people just have the most fun when they can progress. Why not leave it in the hands of the player? Doesn't variety benefit everyone? The difficulty setting one player uses doesn't really affect the way you play the game. I think the decision would receive more praise than scoff.

 

[Kenith]

I think Bravely Default has my favourite difficulty model.

Look at that: You let players turn off random encounters.

Even in the midst of a dungeon.

With no immediate penalty.

And the world didn't burn down.

How shocking.

But really, though. There are so many ways you can play that game, and you don't need to artificially create barriers for yourself just to make the difficulty you like a little harder. For instance, I play that game with halved encounter rates. This means the dungeons are shorter, but the bosses are absolutely brutal with a lower level and poor equipment.

Would be cool if Fire Emblem: if just let you switch Casual/Classic or Normal/Hard/Lunatic on the fly, between chapters. Especially since enemy stats don't load until you enter a battle, so you can change it depending on how you feel. Is a chapter too hard for you? Fine, turn down the difficulty. People might have a knee-jerk response like "THAT'S TAKING THE EASY WAY OUT YOU SHOULD OVERCOME YOUR DEMONS", and for me, sure. I'll revise my strategy and try again.

But that's how I like to play my games, and the way I pay games isn't better than anyone else's. Some people just have the most fun when they can progress. Why not leave it in the hands of the player? Doesn't variety benefit everyone? The difficulty setting one player uses doesn't really affect the way you play the game. I think the decision would receive more praise than scoff.

Yeah, that's kinda what I want. Consider I have the play the game for 2+ more hours to get back to where I was. Though I least I redo the chapters I didn't enjoy.
Also, did you perhaps mean to say "scorn" instead of scoff?
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The reason I brought up my playthrough was because I needed advice.

 

[Hong]

Also, did you perhaps mean to say "scorn" instead of scoff?

Nope.

The reason I brought up my playthrough was because I needed advice.

Start over.

 

[Kenith]

Start over.

I did, that is why I needed advice.

 

[Hong]

I did, that is why I needed advice.

New file. Hard/Classic. Optionally turn off battle animations and skip dialogue until you get back to where you were.

If you want something kinky, try changing up one of your core units. Make Robin a Cleric or something and see how it goes.

 

[Antonykun]

on a scale to one to tipped how was your day? :D

 

[Kenith]

New file. Hard/Classic. Optionally turn off battle animations and skip dialogue until you get back to where you were.
If you want something kinky, try changing up one of your core units. Make Robin a Cleric or something and see how it goes.

Done and done.
Get Donnel and Rescue before Chapter 5 or no?
Although what I was really wanting to ask is how do I keep everyone on my team evenly leveled, or if I should just not worry about it and kill absolutely everything with MU/Chrom.

 

[Kotor]

My spring break is coming up soon, so it will be the perfect time to start my all female Hard/Classic run.

 

[Hong]

on a scale to one to tipped how was your day? :D

I told somebody IRL that if they want me they should impress and they buggered off so now I kind of feel like a boss.

Done and done.
Get Donnel and Rescue before Chapter 5 or no?
Although what I was really wanting to ask is how do I keep everyone on my team evenly leveled, or if I should just not worry about it and kill absolutely everything with MU/Chrom.

Clear Donnel's paralogue ASAP if you can. If you can't, get Lon'qu for his good Pair Up bonuses.

Chrom should be your immediate anchor for the first few chapters, specifically because he's pivotal in chapter 1 if you don't want Frederick killing things. Feed Robin so that she has at least had a few levels by chapter 3 so she can take out the Knights. Robin, if you have her as a Tactician, should be your anchor for basically the whole game from chapter 4 onwards, though Chrom will be your focus for chapters where you fight lots of Wyvern Riders. Because of Veteran, Robin is a momentum-based character, and you should honestly just let it happen. Chrom should be strong as well since he's kind of important and mandatory.

I don't think you should keep everyone equally levelled. Level characters you like IMO, and in a way that's efficient.

 

[Kenith]

Clear Donnel's paralogue ASAP if you can. If you can't, get Lon'qu for his good Pair Up bonuses.
Chrom should be your immediate anchor for the first few chapters, specifically because he's pivotal in chapter 1 if you don't want Frederick killing things. Feed Robin so that she has at least had a few levels by chapter 3 so she can take out the Knights. Robin, if you have her as a Tactician, should be your anchor for basically the whole game from chapter 4 onwards, though Chrom will be your focus for chapters where you fight lots of Wyvern Riders. Because of Veteran, Robin is a momentum-based character, and you should honestly just let it happen. Chrom should be strong as well since he's kind of important and mandatory.
I don't think you should keep everyone equally levelled. Level characters you like IMO, and in a way that's efficient.

Ok. Well, what I was doing was taking all the units that I liked and giving them at least one level per map and then feeding the rest to Robin/Chrom.
I don't think that will work on Hard mode though on account of the death and the dying.

 

[the king of murder]

On hard mode, Reeking Boxes cost 4800 gold so grinding will be kinda hard. Bonus teams(spotpass) and random Risen encounter is your only way to grind without DLC.

 

[Kenith]

On hard mode, Reeking Boxes cost 4800 gold so grinding will be kinda hard. Bonus teams(spotpass) and random Risen encounter is your only way to grind without DLC.

Aw **** I forgot about that.
Now I remember why I was playing Normal in the first place. >.<

 

[Antonykun]

On hard mode, Reeking Boxes cost 4800 gold so grinding will be kinda hard. Bonus maps and random Risen encounter is your only way to grind without DLC.

In the late game, rescue staves are boss. Falcon knights can use staves and they are from the pegasus knight tree...so moar dark flyers and more Galeforce

 

[The_Cardinal]

I think Bravely Default has my favourite difficulty model.

Look at that: You let players turn off random encounters.

Even in the midst of a dungeon.

With no immediate penalty.

And the world didn't burn down.

How shocking.

But really, though. There are so many ways you can play that game, and you don't need to artificially create barriers for yourself just to make the difficulty you like a little harder. For instance, I play that game with halved encounter rates. This means the dungeons are shorter, but the bosses are absolutely brutal with a lower level and poor equipment.

Would be cool if Fire Emblem: if just let you switch Casual/Classic or Normal/Hard/Lunatic on the fly, between chapters. Especially since enemy stats don't load until you enter a battle, so you can change it depending on how you feel. Is a chapter too hard for you? Fine, turn down the difficulty. People might have a knee-jerk response like "THAT'S TAKING THE EASY WAY OUT YOU SHOULD OVERCOME YOUR DEMONS", and for me, sure. I'll revise my strategy and try again.

But that's how I like to play my games, and the way I pay games isn't better than anyone else's. Some people just have the most fun when they can progress. Why not leave it in the hands of the player? Doesn't variety benefit everyone? The difficulty setting one player uses doesn't really affect the way you play the game. I think the decision would receive more praise than scoff.

I do like that feature in Bravely Default very much also. Tales of games also let you change difficulty levels (of which there are many) on the fly and no one complains about it. Tales of Graces f and Tales of Xillia 2 specifically have my favorite difficulty model. In addition to the expected stat boost on enemies and bosses, they're somewhat more intelligent and can combo you pretty hard. On the flip side, however, its actually easier to exploit their weaknesses and combo them IF you know what you're doing. So its a difficult model that rewards for properly understanding and implementing the games' mechanics.

 

[The Merc]

on a scale to one to tipped how was your day? :D

It has been a very scale tipping day

on an unrelated note, I found this picture. Thought I would post it

I like Snivy .

 

[AirshBornely]

Would be cool if Fire Emblem: if just let you switch Casual/Classic or Normal/Hard/Lunatic on the fly, between chapters.

So wanted this to be a thing when I foolishly started my first play-through in Awakening on hard..

Did managed to do surprisingly okay in hard mode in PoR in my first play-through, though.
(Fixed)

 

[LIQUID12A]

Reeking Boxes on Hard: Need 'em, can't afford 'em.

normal4lyfe

 

[Kenith]

Eh, the Spotpass teams are better for grinding anyway since you can choose who you fight.
I wonder what it was like right about the release in Japan though.
Grinding must have been impossible.

 

[Hong]

Well, to beat the game you can do that just fine on Lunatic without any grinding.

You'll never be able to have more than a few super powerful excessive children characters without it, though.

So wanted this to be a thing when I foolishly started my first play-though in Awakening on hard..

Did managed to do surprisingly okay in hard mode in PoR in my first play-though, though.

Because the Tellius games have an intelligent difficulty model.

 

[Kenith]

What's the maximum number of units you can have on one map?
Like, the largest one in the game.

 

[The Merc]

Reeking Boxes on Hard: Need 'em, can't afford 'em.

normal4lyfe

This is why I am finding Hard mode so..... HARD :-:

Eh, the Spotpass teams are better for grinding anyway since you can choose who you fight.
I wonder what it was like right about the release in Japan though.
Grinding must have been impossible.

I only want the reeking boxes for the money you get, though it's hard to do that on hard difficulties. I really need that money dlc pack.

What's the maximum number of units you can have on one map?
Like, the largest one in the game.

I think it is against Prima. It might be 20 or something.

 

[Coolpool2]

I'm pretty sure the Priam map is 30, but most are around Chrom+11-15 units.

 

[Kenith]

I'm pretty sure the Priam map is 30, but most are around Chrom+11-15 units.

30?!
Hell, I don't want to have to max out 30 units...

 

[Coolpool2]

Well technically Chrom+29 units. Maxing out 15 will probably do the job if you play the map smart.

 

[Célja]

So I found this piece of news just now and I'm not sure how to feel about this.

http://mynintendonews.com/2015/03/04/is-there-a-sega-and-game-freak-collaboration-on-the-way/

On one hand, GameFreak has yet to really disappoint me. Sega though, with it's recent track record is making a little skeptical. If anything I guess we'll just have to wait and see what they have in store for us.

 

[The_Cardinal]

30?!
Hell, I don't want to have to max out 30 units...

That's hardly necessary or even advisable. You just need a small elite squad you can trust to not get murdered by Priam and his 50 or so soldiers. I myself just sent out and her assist tool, Chrom, and I wouldn't be surprised if other people did something similar.

 

[Kenith]

How many units do you guys think I should have maxed out/highly trained by the endgame then?
I was thinking/hope for about 17+Chrom.

 

[Coolpool2]

I kind of just got my tanks/dodge units to form a small quarter circle in the forested area in the bottom left while I slowly destroyed all of the enemy units. On my first play through I only used around 17 units regularly, but on my second I used around 22. This led a lot of my units to be lower level on average and took more grinding.