Social "Time to Tip the Scales!" - Robin Social Thread

[Kotor]

It's funny that you say that, because there are people speculating that Kamui might be the dragon.

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11 people voted that the dragon choking the dancer was "caring?"

 

[Elezir]

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11 people voted that the dragon choking the dancer was "caring?"

Hey! maybe she actually had a stiff neck and he was just caressing it?

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Honestly? I have no idea. It's not like they couldn't choose "Neutral" or "Other" if they felt that "Hostile" wasn't right.

 

[Chapter Serf]

Hey! maybe she actually had a stiff neck and he was just caressing it?

And it doesn't exactly look like he's strangling her. The hand doesn't seem that tight around her neck.

 

[Elezir]

And it doesn't exactly look like he's strangling her. The hand doesn't seem that tight around her neck.

Honestly, for me it looks like he's trying to strangle her.
There couldn't be another reason as to why his hand is there other than a stiff neck maybe
But eh, who knows oO It's still all speculation, since we don't know the background to that scene.

The dancer could be the big bad No really, I'm the only who thinks it would make for a nice twist, even if it's completely unfounded? Of course, if they want to implement this kind of twist, they'd have to do it the right way.

 

[Moydow]

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11 people voted that the dragon choking the dancer was "caring?"

 

[Kotor]

The dancer could be the big bad No really, I'm the only who thinks it would make for a nice twist, even if it's completely unfounded? Of course, if they want to implement this kind of twist, they'd have to do it the right way.

Like maybe she's secretly a water dragon and she's using her innocence to get on everyone's good side before she betrays them and reveals her plan to flood the world because water.

I'm sensing a water motif with this game. With the drop of water at the end of the trailer, the dancer and dragon falling into a body of water, the dancer's hair moving as if it's submerged in water, and the face of the Mouth of Truth is believed to be based off of Oceanus, Greek god of... water! I'd also looked into the origin of the Mouth of Truth beyond it being used as a lie detector (if they are taking the lie detector route, someone has to lose their hand. If someone had already lost their hand, they might be plot important). From what I'd found, a few sites mention that the Mouth of Truth may have been used as either a fountain, or a manhole cover. Both of them involve water.

 

[The Merc]

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11 people voted that the dragon choking the dancer was "caring?"

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Maybe it's a curse and he was trying to save the dancer? Maybe they're family related?

 

[RadiantTactician]

Man, you guys and gals are waaay too fast for me lol. I just went to my Gamestop to place a pre-order on S.T.E.A.M, and is definitely showing up on Friday/Saturday.

I can't really think of another crossover for the series outside of the usual Warriors/Zelda mentions. For spin-offs, I guess they could follow S.T.E.A.M's set up and add some real time aspects. Someone mentioned an MMO, which I would gladly take if it's based in Tellius (or at least allow a myriad of race options 'cause I'd love to be a Laguz/Manakete/etc.).

I don't think I can say much else about FE14 that hasn't been said, so I'll just say that it's my most anticipated game atm.

And everyone should listen to this.

 

[redfeatherraven]

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11 people voted that the dragon choking the dancer was "caring?"

Bet he cares about choking the **** outta her.

 

[The Merc]

Man, you guys and gals are waaay too fast for me lol. I just went to my Gamestop to place a pre-order on S.T.E.A.M, and is definitely showing up on Friday/Saturday.

I can't really think of another crossover for the series outside of the usual Warriors/Zelda mentions. For spin-offs, I guess they could follow S.T.E.A.M's set up and add some real time aspects. Someone mentioned an MMO, which I would gladly take if it's based in Tellius (or at least allow a myriad of race options 'cause I'd love to be a Laguz/Manakete/etc.).

I don't think I can say much else about FE14 that hasn't been said, so I'll just say that it's my most anticipated game atm.

And everyone should listen to this.

Oh, oh, I thought of a good one. What about an Elder Scroll (i.e Skyrim) version for Fire Emblem? How awesome would that be?

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

Honestly, I'm surprised no one has speculated that the Eastern style army could be the army from which Say'ri originated. This could be a Prequel or Sequel to Awakening in which it tells a story of the war between the two, or it could take place in Chon'sin with other oppressors besides Ylisse attacking them. I'm just spit-balling this because Chon'sin is the only confirmed region to have Eastern influences. All this does seem unlikely seeing as how Chon'sin is a small country inside of Valm, but who knows?

Oh, oh, I thought of a good one. What about an Elder Scroll (i.e Skyrim) version for Fire Emblem? How awesome would that be?

That'd be awesome! But Skyrim and Oblivion don't really have a good way to make characters interesting, a must for Fire Emblem games. In other news Bethesda is getting it's own press conference at E3...

 

[The Merc]

Honestly, I'm surprised no one has speculated that the Eastern style army could be the army from which Say'ri originated. This could be a Prequel or Sequel to Awakening in which it tells a story of the war between the two, or it could take place in Chon'sin with other oppressors besides Ylisse attacking them. I'm just spit-balling this because Chon'sin is the only confirmed region to have Eastern influences. All this does seem unlikely seeing as how Chon'sin is a small country inside of Valm, but who knows?

I have actually thought about that theory where the game is based in Valm and the war going on there happens again either after or before Awakening and You and the Dancing girl are trying to unit the forces under one, cause if you think about it. The guy on the left with the red armour has the amour that looks suspiciously like Walhart's, though I don't know about the fredrick replacement guy (sorry, I don't know there names).

That'd be awesome! But Skyrim and Oblivion don't really have a good way to make characters interesting, a must for Fire Emblem games. In other news Bethesda is getting it's own press conference at E3...

Oh, I didn't mean to make it like Skyrim exactly, I just gave skyrim as an example in case there were people here who didn't know what the elder scroll games were. I just meant the the FE spin should have a similar feel to the elder scroll games.

 

[Hong]

Honestly, I'm surprised no one has speculated that the Eastern style army could be the army from which Say'ri originated. This could be a Prequel or Sequel to Awakening in which it tells a story of the war between the two, or it could take place in Chon'sin with other oppressors besides Ylisse attacking them. I'm just spit-balling this because Chon'sin is the only confirmed region to have Eastern influences. All this does seem unlikely seeing as how Chon'sin is a small country inside of Valm, but who knows?

This is what I was alluding to, but we must go deeper.

No shame in accidentally mistaking Marx with Camus. Good chance Marx is going to be the Camus of this game.

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If this game ends up taking place in Valentia, I'm going to laugh if he ends up being either an ancestor, or descendant.

Bear in mind that Valm = Future Valentia (FE2), and Ylisse = Future Akaneia. There are obvious concepts alluding to this, like the Great Mila Shrine, Tiki, or the Exalt being a descendant of Marth.

So yes, this could take place on Valentia (or Valm, depending on if it's the past/future), and many things could support this concept. First one has to note that we for sure are dealing with monsters. Monsters are only commonplace in two games: Gaiden and Sacred Stones... and many could claim the events of Magvel are possibly related to the former. Not only that, but notice how the Dread Fighter design has a strong Japanese motif... perhaps suggesting the practice can originate from a past state of Chon'sin or similar culture.

So yes, there is a possibility that FE14 takes place on Valentia... Well before the conquering of Walhart or classification of Valm. Alternatively, and unlikely, is this is some future where it has been distorted or blown to bits and everyone lives in some strange land of floating islands. Definitely leaning more to some pre-Valm affair. One also needs to consider The Schism, in which the territories of this world were formed (something Basilio briefly alluded to). Awakening certainly left a lot to be elaborated on.

 

[redfeatherraven]

Honestly, I'm surprised no one has speculated that the Eastern style army could be the army from which Say'ri originated.
All this does seem unlikely seeing as how Chon'sin is a small country inside of Valm, but who knows?

That'd be awesome! But Skyrim and Oblivion don't really have a good way to make characters interesting, a must for Fire Emblem games. In other news Bethesda is getting it's own press conference at E3...

I suspect that unless this is a conflict taking place inside of Valm - which I guess is possible, I mean they do love them some spooky-ass armor decor in Valm (just look at Walhart) and we got a whole bunch of that on the Western side here - we've got a brand new location here, unless Chon'sin either expanded to its current state, or retracted to the point we saw in Awakening.
Expanded and retracted. Mmyes. Implications.

The Elder Scrolls games have an excellent way to make characters interesting - they're called books, and since Oblivion's physics engine they were more for blasting around a room than reading. They just have a hard time making interesting characters that you actually speak to, excepting perhaps Lydia (more as a mechanic than as a character), Sheogorath (for bat**** insanity), and M'aiq the Liar (the same, plus fanservice).

 

[The Merc]

Hey guys, quick topic change, I know this artwork isn't exactly Robin or FE artwrok, but I just thought that with MM coming out soon, this work was too good to miss

How fricken adorable is it?!

 

[LousyTactician]

I don't mind if FE14 will let you choose to side with either Marx or the Lobster Lord, but if we're given the option to go against both armies, I'll take it.

It depends on how radical both sides are, but I do always feel a gravitation towards the rarely implemented "**** both of you, I'll do things my way!" option when it actually appears in a game.

 

[Kenith]

It depends on how radical both sides are, but I do always feel a gravitation towards the rarely implemented "**** both of you, I'll do things my way!" option when it actually appears in a game.

Are you Shadow the Hedgehog?!

 

[False Sense]

Are you Shadow the Hedgehog?!

Or Dark Pit.

 

[Kenith]

Speaking of morality...
Anyone else get the impression of strong religious undertones in some Nintendo games despite their stance?
I don't know about other Fire Emblem games, but in Awakening, it's not really a secret.
But it still does contradict Nintendo's whole "no religious material" thing.

 

[Hong]

Speaking of morality...
Anyone else get the impression of strong religious undertones in some Nintendo games despite their stance?
I don't know about other Fire Emblem games, but in Awakening, it's not really a secret.
But it still does contradict Nintendo's whole "no religious material" thing.

The branded confirmed analogy to homosexuality.

Yune says being branded is okay.

Humanity was wrong all along.

 

[Mr. Johan]

I think Nintendo's policy on religion is to not make direct references to any one theology by use of name. No Allah, no Yahweh/God, no Seth or Iris, none of that. I think the only exception they ever made was the cross symbol on the magic book and the shield in the original Legend of Zelda, and it's been 30 years since then.

Now making new religions on the fly and making some comparisons through that? Fair game.

 

[Hong]

I think Nintendo's policy on religion is to not make direct references to any one theology by use of name. No Allah, no Yahweh/God, no Seth or Iris, none of that. I think the only exception they ever made was the cross symbol on the magic book and the shield in the original Legend of Zelda, and it's been 30 years since then.

Now making new religions on the fly and making some comparisons through that? Fair game.

This is how it's been for any developer I've been with.

Sometimes it's literally planned like "What if God actually appeared and told everyone the Bible is fraudulent", and it's just a matter of changing some names and ideas (so God is a Goddess, for instance). Legally, you are 100% safe if you cover everything. Ethically, if you do a good enough job, at most some of the wiser consumers will realize the inspirations and either find it hilarious or find themselves offended, BUT THEY CAN'T DO ANYTHING BECAUSE YOU WON'T ACKNOWLEDGE IT LOL.

 

[redfeatherraven]

Now making new religions on the fly and making some comparisons through that? Fair game.

Unless it's just not that important, though, or you just want some strawmen, it's a pain in the butt to do from a worldbuilding perspective.

That, or I overthink it heavily. Or I'm terrible at it. Fair odds all round.
It would make sense; I'm going straight to hell at this rate.

 

[Elezir]

The most infamous game I can remember that did that was Breath of Fire 2. Oh man, all the stuff about the Church there being manipulative all along That's not Nintendo, though.
Earthbound, too, did something like that, when you need to save that girl from that weird Blue city. Even the enemies looked like the KKK (I've even read somewhere that in the Japanese version they had a little "KK" on their design, something they promptly took out when it went to NA)
FE:A is pretty mild on that. Ylisse is obviously a polytheist culture, as they always say "gods", even if the only goddess ever mentioned there is Naga, and seeing as Ylisse's side don't workship Grima at all...I think Int Sys didn't want or had the time to create more gods, and most people don't complain about many gods being workshipped in video games, because it's widely seen as mythology..
Plegia is probably the one that workships one God above all, since all we hear coming from them is "Grima Grima", unless Tharja, Henry, Gangrel or Validar say the expression "gods" as well at some point. Didn't pay attention to that.(I would laugh if Grima ever said that). I remember that in Gangrel support conversation he says that the people of Plegia were being controlled to workship Grima, but I felt that was more of an excuse for the Black and White morality the game has, more than anything.
Now that could be jab at monotheist religions around the world, but I doubt that. Most won't even relate to that, seeing as Grima is so obviously portraied as so evil. Might as well call him an evil dragon or demon.

 

[Drakonis]

The most infamous game I can remember that did that was Breath of Fire 2. Oh man, all the stuff about the Church there being manipulative all along That's not Nintendo, though.

JRPGs love referencing religion left and right, and if there is a plot-important organized religion they more often than not turn out to be the villains.

 

[Elezir]

JRPGs love referencing religion left and right, and if there is a plot-important organized religion they more often than not turn out to be the villains.

Yeah, but BoF 2 was infamous for that because they even called this organization Church ingame. And even the "God"'s name was Saint Paul or something like that. They even had Christianism's ranks and everything! Including "Pope"!
I'm actually surprised the game was allowed to be sold in some countries in which Christianism is the official religion.

 

[Chapter Serf]

Yay! I just filed my taxes!

Gonna buy a 3DS and Awakening with those returns.*

Although, I have notorious luck when it comes to buying handhelds...

When I was small I saved and saved for a Game Boy Color. Not too long after, the Advance came out. I bought a DS and not too long after, the 3DS came out. Should I hold off on getting a 3DS at this point and just wait for whatever the next handheld is to come out? Or do you all think the 3DS still has some life left in it?

 

[Elezir]

Yay! I just filed my taxes!

Gonna buy a 3DS and Awakening with those returns.*

Although, I have notorious luck when it comes to buying handhelds...

When I was small I saved and saved for a Game Boy Color. Not too long after, the Advance came out. I bought a DS and not too long after, the 3DS came out. Should I hold off on getting a 3DS at this point?

Just wait till you can buy the New 3DS. It's just got released in Japan, too, so the chances they are going to release another handheld are pretty small, at least for some 5 years, that is, if they already have plans for a new handheld.
The New 3DS, XL version, will be availble in NA soon this year.

 

[Chapter Serf]

Just wait till you can buy the New 3DS. It's just got released in Japan, too, so the chances they are going to release another handheld are pretty small, at least for some 5 years, that is, if they already have plans for a new handheld.
The New 3DS, XL version, will be availble in NA soon this year.

Thank you.

Now... When I Get awakening, should I just play it? Or play a mission, record it, stick it up on Youtube and let you all have at it?

Edit: Or is there a way to livestream 3DS?

Edit 2: Of course, if I livestream it, nothing might ever get done because I'd have a dozen opinions on my next move and it would be hilarious.

 

[Elezir]

Thank you.

Now... When I Get awakening, should I just play it? Or play a mission, record it, stick it up on Youtube and let you all have at it?

Just put videos up it if it's the Lunatic+

Seriously, do it if you want to make a playthrough or a Let's play, I suppose. I don't recommend doing something like that in your first play, though, unless you want we picking fun on you because you didn't know that you can't attack axe-users with spear-users, or because you didn't know that marrying Stahl and Sully isn't good class-wise for Kjelle (I think that's a bit stupid though) Or people just whining about the shippings in general.

A Let's play with screenshots of Awakening would be fun, though.

 

[Chapter Serf]

Well, I have played a Fire Emblem game in the past... Don't ask me which one, all I know is that it revolved around this chick, this guy and this guy. So I know things like Sword beats Axe beats Spear beats Sword and Light beats Dark beats Magic beats Light.

Unless of course it's changed. Which is entirely possible.

 

[Moydow]

Well, I have played a Fire Emblem game in the past... Don't ask me which one, all I know is that it revolved around this chick, this guy and this guy. So I know things like Sword beats Axe beats Spear beats Sword and Light beats Dark beats Magic beats Light.

Unless of course it's changed. Which is entirely possible.

That's FE7, aka Blazing Sword, aka Rekka no Ken. The weapon triangle is the same, but the magic one is gone entirely (there's still magic, just no x beats y beats z).

 

[Chapter Serf]

That's FE7, aka Blazing Sword, aka Rekka no Ken. The weapon triangle is the same, but the magic one is gone entirely (there's still magic, just no x beats y beats z).

It just said "Fire Emblem" on the box. That's why I was so unsure. Wasn't that the first one they tossed over to the States so they just called it "Fire Emblem" to avoid confusion? Like how they skipped a couple of numbers on Final Fantasy but made like 5 or 6 3 or something because that was the first one they had launched over here in some time and then proceeded to confuse the hell out of westerners by keeping 7 7?

Just put videos up it if it's the Lunatic+

Seriously, do it if you want to make a playthrough or a Let's play, I suppose. I don't recommend doing something like that in your first play, though, unless you want we picking fun on you because you didn't know that you can't attack axe-users with spear-users, or because you didn't know that marrying Stahl and Sully isn't good class-wise for Kjelle (I think that's a bit stupid though) Or people just whining about the shippings in general.

A Let's play with screenshots of Awakening would be fun, though.

I will ship my characters with those who I deem it best. And you will learn to like it!

 

[Drakonis]

Oh Ike, you're so delightfully broken (at least PoR/RD). :3
My level 10 Ike Amiibo just beat my level 30 Link Amiibo, and it wasn't even close.

 

[Chapter Serf]

I need to get a Robin Amiibo.
I wonder if they'll come out with a FemRobin one as well.

 

[Coolpool2]

I would definitely get a female Robin Amiibo if they made them, I doubt it though. I might still try and get a Robin Amiibo but I have heard amiibos can be hard to get. I kind of want to get a "new 3ds" but it feels like a waste of money since a have a regular(not xl) 3ds. I also need to get a wii u sometime so I could actually use an amiibo.

 

[Elezir]

The problem with making a F!Robin amiibo is the fact that they'd need to make a M!WFT and a F!Villager too, and if Nintendo is already having problems to keep up with the demand right now, I doubt they even want to think about gender swaps for now.
But yeah, a F!Robin amiibo would be awesome.

Now, I know I said I'd stop making these some pags ago, because I was just too dissapointed with how they turned out, but I think I might be getting my touch back <3 I actually liked how these three wallpapers turned out.

Spoiler

There's another version of this one, without anything written.

And if anyone says it's bad, I'll just throw said person off a cliff, alrighty? <3

 

[Moydow]

I kind of want to get a "new 3ds" but it feels like a waste of money since a have a regular(not xl) 3ds.

I'm going to upgrade anyway. The bigger screen is the main selling point for me. Though it helps that the local Gamestop are running a trade-in deal - €85 off a New XL if I trade in the old model. Maybe there's something similar where you are?

 

[LIQUID12A]

Solution to Amiibo dilemmas:

Take off the Robin figure when you get the Amiibo and replace it with a F!Robin figure(somehow)

 

[Elezir]

I would definitely get a female Robin Amiibo if they made them, I doubt it though. I might still try and get a Robin Amiibo but I have heard amiibos can be hard to get. I kind of want to get a "new 3ds" but it feels like a waste of money since a have a regular(not xl) 3ds. I also need to get a wii u sometime so I could actually use an amiibo.

Well, that's alright, because NA is getting the XL only and Amiibos can be used on 3ds, albeit with an adapter.
Honestly, though, a lot of games look better on Wii U, including SSB4.

I'm going to upgrade anyway. The bigger screen is the main selling point for me. Though it helps that the local Gamestop are running a trade-in deal - €85 off a New XL if I trade in the old model. Maybe there's something similar where you are?

Yes, there is a trade in for the NA version too.