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But I knew this was going to happen. Besides, I'm enjoy the heck out of both games! ^o^ Time to catch up and mingle with my favourite people on Smashboards! <3 Hmmm, I must be one of the few that actually enjoys the random, crazy nature of Smash Tour. I actually enjoy it more than Smash Run, and I really liked that mode as well. But to each they're own, it's clearly a hit or miss for many and that's understandable. ^_^
Then I finished this:
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@~ Valkyrie ~
Btw, found my blending pencil. ART WILL NEVER DIE!
Freaking love Skyloft and Gerudo Valley. Both are very fun stages to play on and I'm satisfied with the way they were both handled. Besides, I love dynamically moving stages like Delfino Plaza and Skyloft. Although, not a big fan of Pac Land but it's still enjoyable. One of the better moving stages IMO.YOU GOD DAM TAKE THAT BACK!
If anything, Gerudo Valley should have replaced Bridge of Eldin, or even better, have Bridge of Eldin replaced with Hyrule Castle 64. Serious. Why the hell would you get rid of Skyloft? And if beeter not be becasue "It basically a Delfino Plaza Rip off" because that doesn't count. I mean, they really didn't have much other choice when designing that stage. How would you design it? (don't stay PM style, that one is really bland)
I've been training my Killager, which is my Villager Amiibo, and he's been constantly giving me a run for my money compared to level 9 CPU's. They are both fantastic to train with and fight against. Although I much prefer to fight with them and destroy my friends.
I still need to train my Mario, Samus and Kirby Amiibo's but there's just so much bloody content in this game that the other modes have absorbed my time and effort. Oh well, I'll get to them eventually. 
My online experience has been leaps and bounds better on the Wii U. I've been playing a ton of For Fun matches, which is what lagged the most in the 3DS version, and I have barely and lag at all in the Wii U version. It's like night and day for me. And now For Glory matches are completely lagless, at least so far. I've yet to run into anyone with a bad wifi or internet connection so far, guess I'm lucky there. One thing I am disappointed with is that there's no "Don't Speak Her Name!" or "Divine Decree Ablaze" as I've unlocked almost all the songs in the game from the list I saw online. Such a shame that those songs weren't even considered. I mean, those seem more fitting to Smash Bros. than "Duty Ablaze" or "Conquest Ablaze" in my personal opinion. Oh well, it's not a big deal real given how amazing the soundtrack already is. I got "I'd Because" and that was an important one that I couldn't live without. 
I think we played for a good 9 hours, which actually went by faster than I expected. HOLY CRAP! I haven't graced Smashboards in quite some time. Smash Bros. Wii U and Pokemon Omega Ruby has completely overtaken my social life and free time. Why does Nintendo do this to me!?
Hmmm, I must be one of the few that actually enjoys the random, crazy nature of Smash Tour. I actually enjoy it more than Smash Run, and I really liked that mode as well. But to each they're own, it's clearly a hit or miss for many and that's understandable. ^_^
Seriously, I wish I could draw just as good as you do! I pray that when you finish your current art projects that you might be willing to draw an avatar for me. I would be honoured if you could as your skills are truly fantastic! <3
Freaking love Skyloft and Gerudo Valley. Both are very fun stages to play on and I'm satisfied with the way they were both handled. Besides, I love dynamically moving stages like Delfino Plaza and Skyloft. Although, not a big fan of Pac Land but it's still enjoyable. One of the better moving stages IMO.
I've been training my Killager, which is my Villager Amiibo, and he's been constantly giving me a run for my money compared to level 9 CPU's. They are both fantastic to train with and fight against. Although I much prefer to fight with them and destroy my friends.
Now to go into my impressions of Smash Bros. Wii U. FREAKING LOVE IT!!!!!
Robin and Lucina in HD is a dream come true and they handle incredibly well with my Wii U Pro controller. I just beat Cruel Smash with Lucina and K.O.'d 8 Mii's to complete those two achievements. It was SO bloody difficult, but somehow I did it and I'm quite proud with that. Now to do a Classic Mode 8.0 run with Robin and Lucina.
I had an 8 player Smash Bros. Wii U party last Saturday with my friends and it was a blast! Some of the best Smash Bros. moments were immortalized during that day and we all had a ton of fun. I won most of the matches with Robin, Lucina and Shulk so I'm proud of that. Most of my friends are about the same level of skill as I am when it comes to Smash Bros. so I was very proud of myself when I showed off my prowess with my mains. Now my friends want to try out Robin, Lucina and Shulk more because of me.
Overall, my Smash Bros. Wii U experience has been utterly incredible and far better than I had imaged!
AND THANK YOU FOR BEING A SKYLOFT LOVER, I LOVE YOU MAN *Hugs* . Hopefully I can get one before Zelda Wii u 
.Thanks, Unknown Hero!HI SYREK, WELCOME BACK.
Anyway, you impression of the wii u version makes me want to get a Wii u and smash even more
Well Skyward Sword and Ocarina of Time are my two favourite Zelda games of all time so it's only natural for me to be a Skyloft lover. Awww, love you too bro. *hugs* <3 I hope you can get one as well before than too. 
yeeeeesh, more twitch stuff!
Yes, yes. What could possibly be wrong with Skyward Sword?What's wrong with Skyward Sword?
Arcfire!
Yes to this and yes to your avatar.
Probably forever immortalized as the Protector from Etrian Odyssey.@Pikachewy99 : Your mission, should you choose to accept it, is to draw a swag combo picture featuring your take on my avatar and a character of @Hong 's choice for the Robin board mod combo pack. ~_~
DAWW. THANKS. X3.Thanks, Unknown Hero!
Oh, I'm sorry Unknown Hero, I didn't mean to upset ya with my impressions.
Yes, yes. What could possibly be wrong with Skyward Sword?
. I was serious. What is wrong with Skyward Sword?*Pulls out extinguisher*Arcfire!
this is great
Mostly.
1) Attaching sword actions to motion controls is always going to mean there is a delay in input.
It's a game series developed by Atlus that emulates 80s CRPGs. The game design goes back to the days where the difficulty was ruthless, the explorer had to draw their own map, and the story lies in the heart of the player. I recommend that anyone and everyone picks up Etrian Odyssey IV on the eShop because it's cheap for a full game, and the best entry in the series.
#Arcsfired. Just kidding. I actually have no opinion on the matter because I have never played a Zelda game, which probably makes me the worst offender here. Well, unless you count StarFox AdventuresThis is why you don't get Hong talking about Skyward Sword. I could go on and on with all the awful, but you get my point.
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I have bought EO IV on the eShop back several months ago. I kinda stopped ever since Smash 4 came out, but hearing all this talk about it does make me want to go boot it up again. The difficulty of it did turn me off at first, but at the same time it was a more challenging feel rather than a brutal task of survival.
the third point in particular is why I never finished SS, I got to the point where you had to revive the dragons and stopped playing it due to lack of time, but then I read what comes after that and I simply couldn't even think of the idea of ever finishing the game. I was already disliking the controls, the overworld (THOSE AWFUL FLYING MOTION CONTROLS) and the pacing, but reading that is what really broke it for me. Honestly, the only thing I can salvage from the game are the kikwis, those things are pretty cute.1) Attaching sword actions to motion controls is always going to mean there is a delay in input.
The gyroscopic algorithm devised to detect Link's sword motions detect a gesture from A to B, Between the gesture and registration, there is a 0.77s~ from the moment you make the Wii Remote gesture to it actually happening. To counter this delay, the designers make the game designed around it. This results in a lot of slow, stupid combat sequences where enemies just run up to you and stand to accommodate this delay period like this is a typing game or something.
I won't even get into the fact that this experience is actually not at all an interesting combat system. It loses novelty FAST. Meanwhile I can pop in Link's Awakening or something and just mash that sword button to provide an infinitely more satisfying experience, all the while the game offers more difficulty than Skyward Sword's toddler-tailored challenges could ever hope to provide where the difficulty is in the controls more than the environment.
2) Being hand-held while my enjoyment is drowning
The first three hours of the game on tutorial island are a horrible disgrace to game design. It's bad enough that the game treats me like a ****ing idiot. It's even worse when the game gives me a yes or no prompt and still gives me another tutorial even if I said I don't want any help. And the few times I would ever actually want information it's not even there. What the hell were they even doing.
Excessive dialogue and handholding is a horrible sin in game design and cancer that has come with the "let's make non-gamers gamers" generation of consoles. I'm so glad Aonuma has been willing to acknowledge how idiotic it was and is not going to do that again. The human being is naturally inclined to explore an environment and learn the tools they have been given. Let the player figure it out. Help should be 100% optional, as it is in Link Between Worlds.
3) Horrible flow and desperation for elongating the experience
No matter how you cut it, they stagnated their design possibilities by restricting the world to essentially three areas. Yeah, they can include a "water stage" with the forest area, but that still means you are going through the same ****ing forest area again to get there. Same with the mountains and that dull, drab, lifeless desert. Speaking of the forest area, the Tadnote sequence is the worst experience I have ever had in a Legend of Zelda game. How desperate can you be to make the game longer than to have the player swim around to grab notes. I am not even playing a game anymore. There is nothing fun or engaging going on. They are just lazily trying to string together the greatest quantity of play time with little emphasis on quality.
This is why you don't get Hong talking about Skyward Sword. I could go on and on with all the awful, but you get my point.
It's fine. You're entitled to your opinion. As I said before, I don't mind them on a gameplay level. It's just the concept that rubs me a little wrong.
When I got to that part of White, my first thought was "this better be a SSB stage."
Agreed. Not even one new Mother stage for the Wii U, not even just reusing Magicant? Magicant is a perfect franchise representative, too. Fanservice everywhere and it's from not one but TWO games, a rarity in that series.
Whoa whoa what's going on?Yes to this and yes to your avatar.
Or should I say "hey"?
Probably forever immortalized as the Protector from Etrian Odyssey.
Yes, truly, as a team we are unstoppable.
Mostly.
Well i agree with most of this, however, there is one part of the endgame that i think it's completely worth it:
It would be my honour if my warcry is the song that calls your arrows.
He fancies the Sniper as well.Three good things that came form SS in my opinion:
I may not be the archest of archers, but my arrows shall pierce any foe who shall have the misfortune of being my target beyond my drawstring.It would be my honour if my warcry is the song that calls your arrows.
Just know that you'll be buddying up with @Narwalgod.
ThunderSageNun
FINISH IT! THE LAST GHIRAHIM BOSS FIGHT IS WORTH EVERYTHING!!!!!... and maybe Demise too....
Indeed. Also, I tried the DX version for the first time a year or so back (had only played the original) and wow do the coloured tunics absolutely demolish any challenge the game has. Staying clear away from those next time I play.
Airblast would put me out of a job.I want to be the Pyro! Oh wait wrong game
1) Attaching sword actions to motion controls is always going to mean there is a delay in input.
The gyroscopic algorithm devised to detect Link's sword motions detect a gesture from A to B, Between the gesture and registration, there is a 0.77s~ from the moment you make the Wii Remote gesture to it actually happening. To counter this delay, the designers make the game designed around it. This results in a lot of slow, stupid combat sequences where enemies just run up to you and stand to accommodate this delay period like this is a typing game or something.
I won't even get into the fact that this experience is actually not at all an interesting combat system. It loses novelty FAST. Meanwhile I can pop in Link's Awakening or something and just mash that sword button to provide an infinitely more satisfying experience, all the while the game offers more difficulty than Skyward Sword's toddler-tailored challenges could ever hope to provide where the difficulty is in the controls more than the environment.
2) Being hand-held while my enjoyment is drowning
The first three hours of the game on tutorial island are a horrible disgrace to game design. It's bad enough that the game treats me like a ****ing idiot. It's even worse when the game gives me a yes or no prompt and still gives me another tutorial even if I said I don't want any help. And the few times I would ever actually want information it's not even there. What the hell were they even doing.
Excessive dialogue and handholding is a horrible sin in game design and cancer that has come with the "let's make non-gamers gamers" generation of consoles. I'm so glad Aonuma has been willing to acknowledge how idiotic it was and is not going to do that again. The human being is naturally inclined to explore an environment and learn the tools they have been given. Let the player figure it out. Help should be 100% optional, as it is in Link Between Worlds.
3) Horrible flow and desperation for elongating the experience
No matter how you cut it, they stagnated their design possibilities by restricting the world to essentially three areas. Yeah, they can include a "water stage" with the forest area, but that still means you are going through the same ****ing forest area again to get there. Same with the mountains and that dull, drab, lifeless desert. Speaking of the forest area, the Tadnote sequence is the worst experience I have ever had in a Legend of Zelda game. How desperate can you be to make the game longer than to have the player swim around to grab notes. I am not even playing a game anymore. There is nothing fun or engaging going on. They are just lazily trying to string together the greatest quantity of play time with little emphasis on quality.
This is why you don't get Hong talking about Skyward Sword. I could go on and on with all the awful, but you get my point.
It's a game series developed by Atlus that emulates 80s CRPGs. The game design goes back to the days where the difficulty was ruthless, the explorer had to draw their own map, and the story lies in the heart of the player. I recommend that anyone and everyone picks up Etrian Odyssey IV on the eShop because it's cheap for a full game, and the best entry in the series.
It would be my honour if my warcry is the song that calls your arrows.
Just know that you'll be buddying up with @Narwalgod.
Three good things that came form SS in my opinion:
1) Ghirahim
To anyone reading this, it's okay if you don't like him, but I do. I want more of him.
2) Some pretty/cool areas and great music to go with them
One area you missed out on if you dropped out is the Ancient Cistern. That was one of my favourite dungeons in a Legend of Zelda title. The game was overall pleasant on the audio front as well.
3) Exploring the Legend of Zelda story
It is important to note that this is not a compliment towards the actual writing in the game. Rather, i really liked the concept of this being "the first Link", 'the beginning of Ganon", and so on. I think, overall, it's a great way of "starting" the legacy of the series, from the origins of the Master Sword, to the epic climax of Link VS Demise, and his final spiteful words.
Thundre! Echthundre! Achthundre! THURON!
About Skyward Sword, it had a great concept but I agree with what Hong says about the gameplay. The idea of giving the series some backstory on how the Triforce and everything came to be is very intriguing, but the gameplay.. well the motion controls certainly aren't responsive. Add to the fact I'm left handed while the game goes with right handed Link and that equals WRIST CRAMPINGGOOD STORY NOT MAKING UP FOR GAMEPLAY
I'd love to see a remake of SS kind of like ORAS where the story is similar but there's some major differences. Remake SS with regular controller options and not some hand breaking motion control and I think it'd be very well recieved.
.*Proceeds to backstab everyone who hate SS*The truth can be hard to swallow sometimes.
The best solution is to get over it, stab your best friend a little less than anticipated and then proceed to kill your father and your evil demonic god dragon doppelganger.
That's how I deal with uncomfortable truths.
K, you listenin'? Grass grows, birds fly, sun shines and bruddah, I hurt people!I want to be the Pyro! Oh wait wrong game
Thank. I was the exactly same, except without the arm pains for some reasonNever understood how so many people had trouble with the motion controls for Skyward Sword. Not once during my two playthroughs did it feel straining, off-putting, jarring or not accurate. Perhaps I got really lucky, I'm not sure, but the controls were never a problem for me. And many people say that they couldn't get comfortable when playing the game because of said controls, I disagree strongly. Most of the time I was lying down or in a relax position. There were a couple of times where I had to me more involved, but it was never annoying or too tedious. Of course, everyone is different and many prefer standard controls, as do I. To each they're own of course, and I do understand if you didn't like them or not. They seem to be a hit or miss kind of thing when it comes to the game, which is a shame given how incredible the game outside of the controls are. Anyways, forgive my little rant there, had to speak up given that I'm a huge supporter of the game and all.
Back on topic to Robin though, just got all the custom moves for Robin, Lucina, and Shulk via Crazy Orders. It's a great way to farm for custom moves, equipment, CD's, and the occasional trophy! ^_^
Also, I found this pic on Miiverse and just HAD to share it with you all! BEHOLD!
Was it this one?"Remember, Smashballs"
I can't find that comic right now, but found 2 others that will do just fine.
Robin could learn a thing or two from Eirika.
This is why you don't get Hong talking about Skyward Sword. I could go on and on with all the awful, but you get my point.
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4) and SpeedrunsIt would be my honour if my warcry is the song that calls your arrows.
Just know that you'll be buddying up with @Narwalgod.
Three good things that came form SS in my opinion:
1) Ghirahim
To anyone reading this, it's okay if you don't like him, but I do. I want more of him.
2) Some pretty/cool areas and great music to go with them
One area you missed out on if you dropped out is the Ancient Cistern. That was one of my favourite dungeons in a Legend of Zelda title. The game was overall pleasant on the audio front as well.
3) Exploring the Legend of Zelda story
It is important to note that this is not a compliment towards the actual writing in the game. Rather, i really liked the concept of this being "the first Link", 'the beginning of Ganon", and so on. I think, overall, it's a great way of "starting" the legacy of the series, from the origins of the Master Sword, to the epic climax of Link VS Demise, and his final spiteful words.
*Signs(ASL) C-O-M-E-A-T-M-E-B-R-O*
Com eat me bro?
Sorry, I just don't like hashtags.
About time someone said that.Com eat me bro?
It's all good! ^_^ I've never played an F-Zero game despite many people singing praises for those games. It's just not my type of racing game. I prefer Mario Kart for my racing needs.
F-Zero I can understand, it's surprisingly hardcore and requires very specific inputs.
I implore you to try one. Obviously the best starting point would be Ocarina of Time, but choose any, they're all great.
The beauty of Magicant shall never be seen in HD, to many a @I just unpacked my new TV set. 106 cm/42 inches of glory.
It's... beautiful...
Truly a screen fit for Smash.
A worthy TV set indeed!
I there was one thing about Skyward Sword that I did like it was the dungeons. Seriously, those where some of the best in the series. The music ranged from good to amazing, too. But so does the music in almost every other Zelda game.
Too bad they where wasted in a game that was crap in a lot of other departments. And I'm not even talking about the controls, which I thought wheren't as horrible as everyone else who doesn't like the game seems to think (but they didn't help anything either).
And don't get me started on Fii.
Seriously, don't.
In regards of stages though, I'll probably miss Gerudo Valley in the WiiU version... I just like how good the stage already looks on the 3DS.
I'll also miss Rainbow Road, Mute City and partly Arena Ferox.
Other than that, I don't think I care for any of the stages too terribly much.
Hong
's disdain. I feel your pain Hong, I feel your pain.
