Social "Time to Tip the Scales!" - Robin Social Thread

[shrooby]

Chrom's surprising amount of silliness and snark are what keep me from being completely indifferent towards his personality.

Snarkiness is one of my favorite traits for a character...

Spoiler

If that wasn't obvious already...

 

[Fire Tactician]

Chrom (though not the best) still had his perks.

What other FE lord loves Pie as much as him?

Pier Emblem : A Bakening

He's also the greatest bro in history of video gaming.

He's funny with female Robin, but I always feel bad breaking up their bromance whenever I use her.

 

[Hong]

Well, damn near anyone would become dark with the trauma conga line Chrome goes through. I mean, hell, wouldn't you be surprised if your child came from the future and told you "hey, you died and I was raised without you, I want to see your face for once"? Not to mention the very implications of time travel in our world as opposed to FE.

That's my point, though. That is just what a generic lord does.

I can't say IRL has time travel (OR DOES IT!?), but a lot of people are actually able to maintain their silliness, even after great loss. It would have made Chrom stand out a lot more if he was still corny all the way through, but to keep him feeling human, have him expose his true feelings in specific company.

 

[redfeatherraven]

Snarkiness is one of my favorite traits for a character...

You. I like you, you get it.

His silliness and mood change does not save him from being as flat as a pancake of a character for me. Sure, his supports with are hilarious, but that's it.

Let's not forget pega-pony princess.

...a lot of people are actually able to maintain their silliness, even after great loss.

Or you could go the Henry route. Either/or.

Secret art...THOUSAND EDITS!

 

[Pega-pony Princess]

Let's not forget pega-pony princess.

You called?

Oh wait. Wrong one. lol

 

[redfeatherraven]

You called?

Oh wait. Wrong one. lol

I know, I get more kicks out of doing this than I really should.

I still say that was my favorite Chrom-related moment in the game. You've got good taste.

 

[Fire Tactician]

That's my point, though. That is just what a generic lord does.

But isn't a generic realistic character better than an unrealistically strong one? I'd rather see Chrom break down from time to time and blossom into a strong leader than to have him all gung-ho (I probably misspelled that) all the time. That's why I like Chrom. Still, it's completely okay not to particularly favor a character like this if that's not your cup-o-tea.

I know, I get more kicks out of doing this than I really should.

I still say that was my favorite Chrom-related moment in the game. You've got good taste.

I don't know, Chrom's nudes' leak was pretty funny too.

Chrom may be serious in the story, which is fine and appropriate considering all that he goes through, but depending on when you do the supports, he can still maintain his goofy nature. That's why I say that Awakening is only 1/2 the game it is without the supports. If it weren't for the supports, we wouldn't know how fun-loving Robin is, how goofy Lucina can be, and how obsessively fantastic Frederick is.

 

[Pazzo.]

If I were to rewrite Chrom's personality, I would have made him more of the 'Am I the only sane person in this army' sort of deal that we saw in some of the DLC chapters. keep him awkward yet lovable, and play up his feeling of loyalty, but also contrast his apparent silliness with a vein of loyalty.

As for his fighting style, make him less like Ike (heh heh), and completely drop Falchion, and have him use a spear that was fashioned from a shattered Falchion (My Ephraim bias shows..). If that's too much, just have him use it in a more middle-close range, like German fencing.

If Chrom had been something like that, we might be discussing Chrom's inclusion in SSB4 instead of Robin.

 

[Hong]

But isn't a generic realistic character better than an unrealistically strong one?

Again, my post is not saying he should be unrealistically strong.

 

[LIQUID12A]

That's my point, though. That is just what a generic lord does.

I can't say IRL has time travel (OR DOES IT!?), but a lot of people are actually able to maintain their silliness, even after great loss. It would have made Chrom stand out a lot more if he was still corny all the way through, but to keep him feeling human, have him expose his true feelings in specific company.

And those that don't become Lon'qu with their own problem.

And hey, it's only human for Chrom to go on a roaring rampage of revenge on Gangrel.

inb4 your child comes to you and defies your very expectations

 

[Robertman2]

Pier Emblem : A Bakening


He's funny with female Robin, but I always feel bad breaking up their bromance whenever I use her.

I normally always use , who is a terrible bro.

 

[redfeatherraven]

I don't know, Chrom's nudes' leak was pretty funny too.

Chrom may be serious in the story, which is fine and appropriate considering all that he goes through, but depending on when you do the supports, he can still maintain his goofy nature. That's why I say that Awakening is only 1/2 the game it is without the supports. If it weren't for the supports, we wouldn't know how fun-loving Robin is, how goofy Lucina can be, and how obsessively fantastic Frederick is.

Agreed on both points, but in defense of the former, I still say pega-pony ranks above it slightly, for me. It just gives me the giggles, and I am not a man who generally gets the giggles.
I tend to favor snerks, as it turns out. Fun fact.

I normally always use , whose a terrible bro.

I don't know, he effectively told Chrom "I'm coming with you on patrols so you don't get shanked," which seems a pretty bro thing to do.

 

[False Sense]

If I were to rewrite Chrom's personality, I would have made him more of the 'Am I the only sane person in this army' sort of deal that we saw in some of the DLC chapters. keep him awkward yet lovable, and play up his feeling of loyalty, but also contrast his apparent silliness with a vein of loyalty.

As for his fighting style, make him less like Ike (heh heh), and completely drop Falchion, and have him use a spear that was fashioned from a shattered Falchion (My Ephraim bias shows..). If that's too much, just have him use it in a more middle-close range, like German fencing.

If Chrom had been something like that, we might be discussing Chrom's inclusion in SSB4 instead of Robin.

I think they actually made Robin the "am I the only sane person in this army" character. Which actually works out pretty well since Robin has amnesia and serves as the player's perspective in the world; as a result, Robin has little more knowledge than the player him/herself, and often ends up asking questions about the world that the player would want to know as well. This also means that Robin reacts to the insane world he/she's found him/herself in a way the player is likely to react as well.

 

[LIQUID12A]

I think they actually made Robin the "am I the only sane person in this army" character.

You forgot Lucina in battle.

She's pretty damn sane outside of comedy supports.

 

[redfeatherraven]

You forgot Lucina in battle.

Just in battle?

 

[Robertman2]

Agreed on both points, but in defense of the former, I still say pega-pony ranks above it slightly, for me. It just gives me the giggles, and I am not a man who generally gets the giggles.
I tend to favor snerks, as it turns out. Fun fact.



I don't know, he effectively told Chrom "I'm coming with you on patrols so you don't get shanked," which seems a pretty bro thing to do.

Which is canceled out by the fact that stabs him. And bangs his daughter in all of my runs. That's not being a good bro.

 

[LIQUID12A]

Just in battle?

MAINLY in battle. She can be pretty sane in non comedy supports as well.

 

[Robertman2]

MAINLY in battle. She can be pretty sane in non comedy supports as well.

Her supports with (Along with Chapter 21 and the Hot Spring Scramble convo) and Chrom for example.

 

[LIQUID12A]

Her supports with (Along with Chapter 21 and the Hot Spring Scramble convo) and Chrom for example.

Chrom and Robin show her more serious side, but Chrom also brings out that repressed child in her. A select few of the children(Gerome as an example since i have yet to see all the supports) also have her serious.

 

[False Sense]

Chrom and Robin show her more serious side, but Chrom also brings out that repressed child in her. A select few of the children(Gerome as an example since i have yet to see all the supports) also have her serious.

And Owain brings out her weird side...

 

[LIQUID12A]

And Owain brings out her weird side...

Can that pairing, like, not be mentioned, ever?

Leave that to the creepy people.

Also, I was thinking of adding whomever Lucina's mother ends up being among the other serious moments, but Ive only seen the support where Lucina buys her a polka dot dress, so I don't know.

 

[Frostwraith]

And Owain brings out her weird side...

More like Owain brings everyone's weird side. lol

That or just pure annoyance.

 

[Robertman2]

Chrom and Robin show her more serious side, but Chrom also brings out that repressed child in her. A select few of the children(Gerome as an example since i have yet to see all the supports) also have her serious.

Laurnet does IIRC, F!Morgan does, Tiki does, and... that's all I can think of.

Can that pairing, like, not be mentioned, ever?

Leave that to the creepy people.

Also, I was thinking of adding whomever Lucina's mother ends up being among the other serious moments, but Ive only seen the support where Lucina buys her a polka dot dress, so I don't know.

They don't change. Also, did really need to add an S-support between the two?

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

Robin and Chrom are bestest bros, no contest.

Which is canceled out by the fact that stabs him. And bangs his daughter in all of my runs. That's not being a good bro.

When you leave out the parts where he averts killing him outright though and knowing that let both daughter and your bro can be happiest together, then yes.

Lucina x Inigo-support is a good showcase on how stoic, stern, yet easily shaken Lucina can be, but like Marth, she seems to rather save her feelings of happiness to right occassions rather than smile for sake of it.
Do like her curious and peculiar side that comes out in some conversations as well. It's bit sad how I hear some minorities slam her as some with even less personality than pile of bricks.


I wonder what is her stance on Smashing- aside from being in a honeymoon with Robin.

 

[Robertman2]

Robin and Chrom are bestest bros, no contest.


When you leave out the parts where he averts killing him outright though and knowing that let both daughter and your bro can be happiest together, then yes.

Lucina x Inigo-support is a good showcase on how stoic, stern, yet easily shaken Lucina can be, but like Marth, she seems to rather save her feelings of happiness to right occasions rather than smile for sake of it.
Do like her curious and peculiar side that comes out in some conversations as well. It's bit sad how I hear some minorities slam her as some with even less personality than pile of bricks.

I wonder what is her stance on Smashing- aside from being in a honeymoon with Robin.

I know about those parts. Future Robin is still pretty bad though.
Those people haven't seen most of her supports I bet.
Insert dirty joke about Robin and Lucina Smashing here.

 

[LIQUID12A]

Laurnet does IIRC, F!Morgan does, Tiki does, and... that's all I can think of.

They don't change. Also, did really need to add an S-support between the two?

I'll have to watch those, then.

Mother=not serious, then.

Yes, they did. Because Japan.

 

[Frostwraith]

They don't change. Also, did really need to add an S-support between the two?

You talking about Owain x Lucina?

As far as I know, the Japanese don't think marrying cousins as incestuous. It's really a matter of cultural differences.

 

[shrooby]

And Owain brings out her weird side...

Owain brings out Lucina's incest side...

Spoiler

Yes, I'm aware of the cultural differences. Don't ruin the joke.

 

[LIQUID12A]

You talking about Owain x Lucina?

As far as I know, the Japanese don't think marrying cousins as incestuous. It's really a matter of cultural differences.

I find it curious that nobody ever mentions the fact that kimonos are somehow a turn on for both sexes in Japan as a cultural difference when the Hot Spring Scramble is talked about. Then again, Lucina looks so good in one that I don't care.

 

[Pazzo.]

You talking about Owain x Lucina?

As far as I know, the Japanese don't think marrying cousins as incestuous. It's really a matter of cultural differences.

Still, Owain is referred as Lucina's 'Partner'.... that's weird.

Come to think of it, it was cultural differences that killed the second half of SAO's first season...

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

I know about those parts. Future Robin is still pretty bad though.
Insert dirty joke about Robin and Lucina Smashing here.

Inb4 they smash it out above Koopalings' room and asks what is going on.

More on Lucina, a lot times I see a shaken yet very adamant young woman which IMO is realistic outlook on how she'd take the events of her future up from her childhood. It also makes her really human.
I think it's most prominent proofs to this is the way she's portrayed and animated in her cutscenes. Not even tries to appear pretty, just really serious and actually younger than her character portraits make her to be.

Really punctuates on her being a young girl from a messed-up future above all things she is.
Can't help feeling connected to her a lot in them.

(Maybe I need to marry her with Robin in my next playthrough, feels abound)

On Owain, I personally liked their support conversations- they have a nice dynamic. Sad that Owain isn't an Assist.

I find it curious that nobody ever mentions the fact that kimonos are somehow a turn on for both sexes in Japan as a cultural difference when the Hot Spring Scramble is talked about. Then again, Lucina looks so good in one that I don't care.

Tooooootes. Embarrass

 

[LIQUID12A]

Inb4 they smash it out above Koopalings' room and asks what is going on.

More on Lucina, a lot times I see a shaken yet very adamant young woman which IMO is realistic outlook on how she'd take the events of her future up from her childhood. It also makes her really human.
I think it's most prominent proofs to this is the way she's portrayed and animated in her cutscenes. Not even tries to appear pretty, just really serious and actually younger than her character portraits make her to be. Can't help feeling connected to her a lot in them.


(Maybe I need to marry her with Robin in my next playthrough, feels abound)

On Owain, I personally liked their support conversation. Sad that Owain isn't an Assist.

Tooooootes. Embarrass

Those cutscenes are WORTH watching in 3D. And i use 3D as much as I pair Robin with anyone not named Lucina. I don't.

See, THIS is how you do female character trauma correctly and its a strong reason for my considering of Lucina to be my favorite female in gaming. Take that, Other M , maybe learn a lesson from her.

Who doesn't want that purty lady in an robe

 

[Shaymikyu]

Missed a lot thanks to school, so I'll quickly cover the topics I missed.
*I'm bummed that Lucina was a clone now that I've played Awakening and seen her in action, but since the alternative was her being a Marth costume, I'm not too angry over it. Still, couldn't they have given her the Awakening HP bar in her FS at least? Or let us wear the mask in battle to help set her apart? It'd be cool if they had DLC to give us the options to change the aesthetics of certain attacks without changing the effects... Or even giving us alternate final smashes. Have Lucina summon the future kids or have a ton of Risen take over the field as she fights them off (but they wouldn't hurt her or her team mates, obviously). Or have her perform the Awakening and get a temporary power boost. That said, I don't mind clones as long as they aren't half the roster. It's just the hate it attracts her now that annoys me (not that she wouldn't have detractors if she were original).
*That "could name" chart... Pikachu really is pretty much Japanese Mickey Mouse.
*I still need to play Uprising. If I get more Nintendo cards for Christmas, I'll probably get it (and more of the Awakening DLC).
*In terms of returning characters as DLC, I think in terms of likelihood it's Wolf (cut for time)>Mewtwo (highly requested)>Lucas (cut for time most likely, but also from an obscure series and mixed-received game and never saw US release)>Roy>Young Link=Pichu. Not sure where would go since they were cut for technical limitations. It'd depend on if Sakurai was willing to rework them or if they were Wii U exclusive. As for newcomers, too many to really call.
*I'm still on the fence about the Tower of Smash leak. Some of it sounds very plausible, a couple of things seem off (Ridley without wings?). Still, I felt the same way about the real leak before, so it could be my plausibility radar being off again.
*I like Chrom as a character, but the jokes about him always make me laugh hard. Still feel bad for the people who genuinely wanted him in (and not just to prove the Gematsu leak true), though.
*Am I the only one who likes male Morgan? I find him adorkable. Haven't reached female Morgan yet though, so I have no comparison.
*I also prefer early game Chrom to late game Chrom, mainly because he gets more fun interaction with the Shepherds. Dork Chrom is my favorite Chrom, like in some of his supports. I see why he got more serious later, but still, most of the kids have interesting personalities even after their trauma, though it's more of a way of dealing with it for some of them (i.e. Severa).
*On Lucina's personality- I have yet to do all of her supports, but I'd say she's serious, but sometimes comically so. She can sometimes be a foil to the more silly characters and sometimes they even bring out a more goofy side of her, even if she's oblivious to it. Her non-sibling support with Cynthia, for example. I also think she's... Not naive, necessarily, but sometimes unaware of things like her tacky fashion tastes or how serious and driven she can be over small things ("I'm coming, tiny wooden father/mother!"). That's just how I saw her, though. We also know she's the least likely to get a joke.

I think I got everything I wanted to comment on. Phew.

 

[redfeatherraven]

Insert dirty joke about Robin and Lucina Smashing here.

Just wait until you bust open one of those rooms in Tomodachi Life and you get more of a show than you bargained for.

See, THIS is how you do female character trauma correctly and its a strong reason for my considering of Lucina to be my favorite female in gaming. Take that, Other M , maybe learn a lesson from her.

Other M needs to learn a lot more than just that. Otherwise I agree.

Have we decided which one of these heads means "I agree," yet? I keep using that phrase, and I'm lazy.

 

[shrooby]

I like it when Lucina's seriousness is used to silly extent.
"Tiny wooden mother!" and the supports between her and non-mother female Robin come to mind.

 

[AustarusIV]

Now I wish Cervantes was a Spotpass character in the game. Would Morgan have grown a mustache if he was his father?

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

Now I wish Cervantes was a Spotpass character in the game. Would Morgan have grown a mustache if he was his father?

Derpantes.

 

[Shaymikyu]

Have we decided which one of these heads means "I agree," yet? I keep using that phrase, and I'm lazy.

I don't think so. , maybe?

I like it when Lucina's seriousness is used to silly extent.
"Tiny wooden mother!" and the supports between her and non-mother female Robin come to mind.

I'm planning on doing a run where I marry female Robin to a non-Chrom person, so I'll definitely have to check that support out when I do. It sounds hilarious. Still haven't decided which guy to marry to, though. I need to do my run first anyway (where I've narrowed my options on Robin wives down to a few).

Now I wish Cervantes was a Spotpass character in the game. Would Morgan have grown a mustache if he was his father?

I was basically wishing that since the character first appeared and I realized some "dead" characters came back via Spotpass. I kind of wish Morgan took on more aspects of his/her father/mother. Female Morgan with Lucina's crown or Panne's ears or Manakete ears if her mother is a Manakete, male Morgan with long hair like Libra or Laurent's hat...

 

[redfeatherraven]

*That "could name" chart... Pikachu really is pretty much Japanese Mickey Mouse.
*I still need to play Uprising. If I get more Nintendo cards for Christmas, I'll probably get it (and more of the Awakening DLC).
*In terms of returning characters as DLC, I think in terms of likelihood it's Wolf (cut for time)>Mewtwo (highly requested)>Lucas (cut for time most likely, but also from an obscure series and mixed-received game and never saw US release)>Roy>Young Link=Pichu. Not sure where would go since they were cut for technical limitations. It'd depend on if Sakurai was willing to rework them or if they were Wii U exclusive. As for newcomers, too many to really call.
*I'm still on the fence about the Tower of Smash leak. Some of it sounds very plausible, a couple of things seem off (Ridley without wings?). Still, I felt the same way about the real leak before, so it could be my plausibility radar being off again.

Just gonna yank these out here.

* Mickey Mouse is Japanese Mickey Mouse. Let's be fair. Kingdom Hearts, natch.
* I'm still wary of the prospect of newcomers on the Wii U version or DLC to either. Sure, I'd like to see it, it just seems unlikely. I would also suspect Roy, Young Link, and Pichu would be about as likely to appear as Ridley. And on that.
* Tower of Smash leak is a load of crap. Which is a shame, because on its face, as a mechanic, the tower itself is a phenomenal idea. Honestly, if just that part was true, I'd be fine. It's all the rest of the leak that smells like bull****. But that implies the whole of it is, more than the parts.

I don't think so. , maybe?

Okay.

Ach. Still feels weird. Think I'll just type it out. But new tool aquired, that's good news.

 

[Hong]

I take death in Awakening about as seriously as I take death in the Dragon Ball series.

Everyone lives! Yippie!