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Social "Time to Tip the Scales!" - Robin Social Thread

Pazzo.

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Oh, and I heard someone's coming up on 4,000 posts.. that's a big number, and just in time for Smash 4!
 

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Link feels pretty meh for me personally, but I've been spoiled by his badassery in Project M. He's not terrible, but I don't like his kill move options, his fair, dair, or Up-b.


BTW, Lucina x Palutena is Smash Bros canon according to Sakurai himself, so that's not a ship.
LucinaxPalutenaxM!Robin. Threesomes for the win.
:4lucina:: I say when it ends!
Waluigi: TOO BAD! WALUIGI TIME!

 
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Raziek

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Guys, I know this is a social thread, but come on. Up your post quality a little bit, lol.

Do you, now?

*presses start*

*presses L + R + A + Start*

"No contest."

:4dedede:
LRAStart actually isn't a think in Smash 4. Now it's just a button that brings up a Yes/No prompt on the touchscreen.
 

Unkown Hero

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"This is no time for pick-up lines, Snake."


...



I think I liked it better when we just quoted Robin. :p
Snake? Snake?! SNNNAKKKKKKE!!!

....

Yeah I think this might have gotten old now, maybe.
 
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Fire Tactician

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Who could possibly find me adorable?:088:I think Link will be very strong in Smash 4. He can definitely out-spam Robin. No doubt about that.

That said, Arcfire will be GREAT for getting in on him. What is more is Link actually has problems killing in Smash 4, where as Robin does not. Overall, I think it has the potential to be a slow match-up, but I won't say who has the upper-hand. My guess is a 50/50.
I know that I'm the one with the game, but tips please? This is a recurring theme with me and the characters that I play as- I'm able to rack up damage like nobody's business, but the moment I need to KO, I suddenly choke and can't do it.
 

Fire Tactician

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Guys, I know this is a social thread, but come on. Up your post quality a little bit, lol.


LRAStart actually isn't a think in Smash 4. Now it's just a button that brings up a Yes/No prompt on the touchscreen.
If I could count the amount of pictures that I accidentally took trying to LRAStart... wait, I can... shoot...
:4robinm:: It's time to delete 78 useless pictures!
 
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Hong

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Guys, I know this is a social thread, but come on. Up your post quality a little bit, lol.
I'll agree to this.
I know that I'm the one with the game, but tips please? This is a recurring theme with me and the characters that I play as- I'm able to rack up damage like nobody's business, but the moment I need to KO, I suddenly choke and can't do it.
You "suddenly choke"? You mean a psychological thing? If that's the case, it's just a matter of not being over-eager. You should be patient while you and your enemy are even, and even more patient when your enemy is on her or his last legs. If you have an advantage, it's up to them to find a solution, especially since online play is timed.

That aside, the Levin Sword is pretty incredible. In the air, the Levin Sword smash attacks outright are superior in both speed and power to the majority of what the roster can do. Not quite up to par with the Knee or something, but they're still pretty good. If you outplay your enemy, you should be getting the better trades often enough.

You also need to keep in mind stale move negation, which became much more severe ever since Brawl. For instance, if your Arcfire creates an opportunity to land a Levin fair, instead consider a RAR Levin bair, since it's more likely to be fresh.
 
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Ha ha, I love reading support conversations that Nowi's involved in. So fun/funny.
My favorite are still the ones that make her act a bit more mature. Namely, Vaike and Libra. In Vaike's, she laments that she's going to outlive everyone in the army and be alone again, so Vaike asks her to continue his dream after he dies so that they'll always be together in spirit. In Libra's, she helps Libra find his "heart" that he had long thought he had sealed off, and I think helped him get over the mental pain of the scar on his neck (though that part may be getting mixed up with another support).

I dislike Tharja because she stole Micaiah's head and put it on her body.

That's not your head, Tharja! Give it back!
Love that Micaiah art since it was done by the same artist who did the Fate/Extra art, and I'm a huge fan of Saber Nero.
 

Fire Tactician

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I'll agree to this.You "suddenly choke"? You mean a psychological thing? If that's the case, it's just a matter of not being over-eager. You should be patient while you and your enemy are even, and even more patient when your enemy is on her or his last legs. If you have an advantage, it's up to them to find a solution, especially since online play is timed.

That aside, the Levin Sword is pretty incredible. In the air, the Levin Sword smash attacks outright are superior in both speed and power to the majority of what the roster can do. Not quite up to par with the Knee or something, but they're still pretty good. If you outplay your enemy, you should be getting the better trades often enough.

You also need to keep in mind stale move negation, which became much more severe since Brawl. For instance, if your Arcfire creates an opportunity to land a Levin fair, instead consider a RAR Levin bair, since it's more likely to be fresh.
It's got to be a little psychological, but it's probably also a skill thing. I suck at short-hopping and my reflexes aren't too great, but I can usually compensate for those when just damage dealing. The preciseness that some KO moves require make me struggle to KO sometimes.

But thanks for the advice. I am an "eager" player who doesn't really like sitting back too much, but from a strategy perspective, it makes sense if I'm ahead. I'll try to reevaluate my playing a little to be more cautious, since running in and hacking blindly just leaves me open. I recently began trying to play more cautiously with Shulk since his Buster and Smash leave him vulnerable and have been experiencing more success, so I'll give it a shot with Robin.

I'm usually cautious of stale moves, but I will admit that it does hinder Robin and I let it. His fair is good, but I guess that I've probably spent all of its KO power dealing damage, rendering it useless when trying to KO. I'll practice the bair- I recently turned off tap jump after 6 years of using it, so we'll see if I can learn to jump more precisely...
 
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It's got to be a little psychological, but it's probably also a skill thing.
Take my word for it when I say that keeping cool until the enemy slips up and throws out a punishable move that you can capitalize on is a glorious feeling.

I apply this regarding keepaway tactics; when the opponent gets frustrated enough to try and charge me, I surprise them by shifting styles. It's hard to explain because it varies between fighting games, but getting the opponent to adjust to one style and then switching to another is a great way to throw them off balance and maintain your own composure.

Trust me, the amount of mixed reactions I got from successfully outwitting opponents through gameplay style switches in fighting games like PSASBR, Injustice, and UMVC3 is flattering, whether they be good or bad.
 

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It's got to be a little psychological, but it's probably also a skill thing. I suck at short-hopping and my reflexes aren't too great, but I can usually compensate for those when just damage dealing. The preciseness that some KO moves require make me struggle to KO sometimes.

But thanks for the advice. I am an "eager" player who doesn't really like sitting back too much, but from a strategy perspective, it makes sense if I'm ahead. I'll try to reevaluate my playing a little to be more cautious, since running in and hacking blindly just leaves me open. I recently began trying to play more cautiously with Shulk since his Buster and Smash leave him vulnerable and have been experiencing more success, so I'll give it a shot with Robin.

I'm usually cautious of stale moves, but I will admit that it does hinder Robin and I let it. His fair is good, but I guess that I've probably spent all of its KO power dealing damage, rendering it useless when trying to KO. I'll practice the bair- I recently turned off tap jump after 6 years of using it, so we'll see if I can learn to jump more precisely...
If you have poor motor skill and reflexes, you can always play more around reads.

For example, if your opponent is in trouble and you charge at them, instead of attacking where they are, keep going for a bit. Attack to deliberately overshoot your enemy, in attempt to predict a roll. Even if they don't roll backwards and instead roll forward, by the time they can attack you, you're already safe. The counter to this strategy is a grab, usually accompanied with a shield, so be prepared to grab them yourself if they don't move.

Another common one in Smash 4 in particular is the response to an airborne threat. Imagine you have a defensive opponent and you send them into the air. You jump up at them, and what do they do? They air dodge. That's why you reserve your attack, and preferably your double jump, until you see them act. Even if they opt to use a dair to strike you as they fall, you can fast-fall and avoid being directly below them until you see them attack. The only cases where this is not as reliable is against enemies such as Greninja who have the tools to get down rather safely.
 

Pazzo.

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So yhe sign ups for aCaptain Norris' Tournament started... and I was late, so I missed out on Robin. :-/

At least I got this guy: :4dedede:
 
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Link feels pretty meh for me personally, but I've been spoiled by his badassery in Project M. He's not terrible, but I don't like his kill move options, his fair, dair, or Up-b.


BTW, Lucina x Palutena is Smash Bros canon according to Sakurai himself, so that's not a ship.
You can still ship stuff that's canon...
 

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@ Hong Hong @ LIQUID12A LIQUID12A (since qutoting both of you will take up way too much room)

Thanks for the advice! I gave some of it a whirl just now and had the misfortune of going up against four Sheiks in a row (from three different people)- a character that I've never battled online before! After the ninja phase though, I did have some success when I used Robin, Shulk, and Ness incorporating your ideas. It's going to be an ongoing process for me, so I'm glad that I have the handheld 3DS version to practice whenever as opposed to the less transportable home console version.
 

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I hate doing things online or on the phone when I have the alternative to do it in person.

Job interview on the phone or in person at the place an hour away? Sorry, I'm already in the car, driving to that interview.
 
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