Social "Time to Tip the Scales!" - Robin Social Thread

[False Sense]

So, do we know anything else about this now?

 

[Robertman2]

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I'd really hate to see one of Robin's potential custom moves be taken up with yet another generic counter move. But that's just me, I suppose.

I actually suggested that as a joke. Mostly because I wanted to Robin pimp slap someone with a tome.

 

[Robertman2]

 

[LIQUID12A]

Low blow to Roy fans.

But hilarious

 

[Robertman2]

Low blow to Roy fans.

But hilarious

Roy's overrated anyways.

 

[LIQUID12A]

Roy's overrated anyways.

True.

And Project M exists for them anyways.

 

[Robertman2]

True.

And Project M exists for them anyways.

Project M exists for Mewtwo, until the Wii U version with him, Riddles, Chorus Men, Dixie, Ice Climbers, and, hopefully, Snake.

 

[Deathcarter]

Project M exists for Mewtwo, until the Wii U version with him, Riddles, Chorus Men, Dixie, Ice Climbers, and, hopefully, Snake.

Until Nintendo officially confirms DLC or the Wii U version having separate rosters, I am not getting my hopes up. I already got Robin and I don't need to go through the stress of hoping against all odds again.

 

[Fire Emblemier]

There are a few things I'm disappointing about these palettes. Robin not getting 16 palettes, but Little Mac getting extra 8 due to Wire Frame, and his Blue alt. not having the common dark blue hair otherwise known as "Lord Hair". Minor pet peeves, that'll hopefully get over, but still pet peeves, none the less.

 

[TheDiddler]

But Roy's my boy

 

[Unicorn]

@ Hong Nice format. *Yoink cuz I'm Gaius*


1. Thunder (standard)
2. Second Seal- Robin's charges momentarily then "changes class", replacing his Levin Sword with another random weapon for the duration of one weapon usage (until it breaks I mean, not one swing).
-Bolt Axe: More powerful than the Levin Sword, but with less charges. Also causes double cooldown when it breaks.
-Gradivus: Significantly more range than the Levin Sword, but also quite a bit weaker. Same amount of charges and cooldown.
-Sleep Staff: Causes extra hitstun, and if an opponent is hit three times in a row with the Sleep Staff, they go into a shortened shield break animation. Much lower knockback than the Levin Sword.
3. Dragonskin: After a short charge, grants Robin super armor during smash attacks (Think PM Bowser). This only lasts for a single smash attack though, so use it wisely.


1. Arcfire (standard)
2. Mire: Shoots straight out, rather than at an angle like Arcfire. Goes until it hits a wall or goes offscreen (unlimited range basically). No lingering hitbox if it makes contact.
3. Mjolnir: Drops a large hammer that slowly falls from the top of the screen at a set distance away from Robin. The hammer does a butt load of damage if it hits but is hard to land. Could probably throw opponents into it or Nosferatu Grab release shenanigans. Also this has really cool lightning effects on it, because its my second favorite spell.


1. Nosferatu (standard)
2. Docnado Tornado: Clearly a completely original idea, and not inspired by Doctor Mario's down b in anyway. Robin surrounds himself in a tornado, then flies upwards if used from the ground, downwards if used in the air. Multiple weak hits with low priority and is beaten by projectiles.
3. Meteor: Robin summons a meteor directly above himself that quickly falls downward. Multiple weak hitboxes behind the actual rock part of the meteor. Strong meteor smash with the Dwayne Johnson Rock.


Elwind (standard)
Ignis- Swipes beneath himself with the Levin Sword. The air crackles with lightning, then explodes, sending Robin upwards. Can be steered.
Valflame - Shoots a steady jet of flame from her hand to ascend. Good vertical lift, but more predictable trajectory. I like this one but I would say Valflame is too strong to be just a rocket. Dying Blaze makes more sense because it just kinda peters out after a little while and an animation where it kind of sputters at the end sounds pretty funny to me.

 

[LIQUID12A]

But Roy's my boy

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Ok

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You know it's coming

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But I like dramatic effects

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so here it is

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[Weeman]

True.

And Project M exists for them anyways.

And now it exists for Wolf fans too...

 

[Deleted member]

And now it exists for Wolf fans too...
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And Lucas fans, Squirtle fans, Ivysaur fans, Ice Climber fans, and Snake fans.

But Roy's my boy

Roy was supposed to be in Smash 4...

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But unfortunately his invitation went to a different Roy.

If Ike wasn't cut, I see no reason for them to cut Robin.

I hope so. I would really hate to see him go.

 

[LIQUID12A]

And now it exists for Wolf fans too...
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I feel your pain, wee man. You're just a wee too sad there.

that is seriously the saddest ****ing gif ever

Roy was supposed to be in Smash 4...

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But unfortunately his invitation went to a different Roy.

You know, it sucks BITF is ending.

 

[Game&Watcher]

Until Nintendo officially confirms DLC or the Wii U version having separate rosters, I am not getting my hopes up. I already got Robin and I don't need to go through the stress of hoping against all odds again.

Technically, it wouldn't be having a separate roster, it's just you'd need to link both the games together to get the whole thing.

 

[Immortal]

Forget Ignis, his Final Smash should have been Expiration.

 

[mimgrim]

I see. Lack of a Monk subclass is the first thing that jumped to mind, but your reasoning makes total sense.

I myself am not sure if I'll ever play EOIII again, until the inevitable remake, anyways. The new classes and the sailing is just a bit too off-beat for my liking. Not bad by any means, but I absolutely adore EOI and IV so much that those are my go-tos for a labyrinth-exploring fixing.

I don't think I could ever get myself to play EO1 or EO2 ever. EO3 is hard enough to try and play as is, my first EO was 4 then I next played Untold and I am spoiled on all the conveniences those games offered. The reason I keep trying to play through EO3 is in fact the classes. They're so different from the other games and there are just so many different things I want o try out.

Monk subclass seems rather redundant on a Princess when you already have a Monk main and the lack of Form Qi. Monk/Prince would be totally better but I didn't feel the need to do that when I have both a main Monk and Princess.

I also still need to play through EOU classic mode, only played through story so far, but have stayed away from doing that for having a really hard deciding what I want to do with a party. For some reason I dislike the Protector class but I know the Protector is a must have if only for the walls but I just don't care for how the rest of it works.

 

[Luis1234554321]

I like blue robin XD i make an image of robin on his blue outfill, and he looks very well

 

[Hong]

Roy's overrated anyways.

He has 0 reason to exist. Fans of the character from source material should always have precedence over fans who just know him from a spin-off. As for fans who actually liked his game, I can easily say I am of a small minority, and even then there is no way I would ever want him in Smash Bros again.

 

[LIQUID12A]

He has 0 reason to exist. Fans of the character from source material should always have precedence over fans who just know him from a spin-off. As for fans who actually liked his game, I cane easily say I am of a small minority, and even then there is no way I would ever want him in Smash Bros again.

Those damn elitists want him back.

 

[Shaya]

He has 0 reason to exist. Fans of the character from source material should always have precedence over fans who just know him from a spin-off. As for fans who actually liked his game, I cane easily say I am of a small minority, and even then there is no way I would ever want him in Smash Bros again.

Hey hey HEY now. Roy comes from a pretty great generation, and honestly had enough reference material to be his own character as well; a sword which emitted flames on every swing, a dragon-god killer and strikes/flames that scaled with one's heart (able to strike but not kill targets he had compassion for). FE6/FE7 were the gateway games for the Western audience and were heavily popular in a scale of size to Awakening is now, heavily overshadowing both FE8 and to most people the Ike generation, and were still seen as the better portable generation for the two Marth game remakes.

I suppose Ike being the fiya covers a bit of the niche. Like, if Marth still got revealed now to have a Roy alternate skin, I'd be fine with it (imagine if it was Lucina instead with the Roy alternate, lol).

 

[RPGatWill]

Forget Ignis, his Final Smash should have been Expiration.

PLease use the spoiler tag for spoilers sir

 

[Sayjin]

honestly had enough reference material to be his own character as well; a sword which emitted flames on every swing, a dragon-god killer

So... Ike?

FE6/FE7 were the gateway games for the Western audience and were heavily popular in a scale of size to Awakening is now, heavily overshadowing both FE8 and to most people the Ike generation, and were still seen as the better portable generation for the two Marth game remakes.

7 sure, but 6 never came out in the west. As such, other than those who download an emulator, the west knows him from Melee and the one epilogue scene from the 7 credits, where I don't recall if he was even named. And no other western Fire Emblem has matched Awakening in popularity.

Like, if Marth still got revealed now to have a Roy alternate skin, I'd be fine with it (imagine if it was Lucina instead with the Roy alternate, lol).

Then you're okay with it? He has a Roy coloring, just keeps his own head/hair.

 

[Shaya]

So your argument is... misinterpreting/nitpicking wording of my post in facetious ways two and a half times?

 

[Folt]

So your argument is... misinterpreting my post in facetious ways two and a half times?

Roy was a very negligible part of Blazing Sword, and not everyone could understand Japanese at the time so FE6 info (y'know, the game that Roy actually was a big part of) were mostly through people who did know it until the translation patch came out. A big part of Roy's popularity in Smash was because he was in, well, Smash.

 

[Folt]

Well, no matter, White Mage Robin will be used because of swag, Default!Robin because Default!Robin, and Green!Robin will be used because green is my favorite color (and he somehow manages to look rather similiar to the first character I made for an FE RP).

 

[Shaya]

I don't deny that. An FE7 inclusion would definitely be more relevant than Roy (Hector would've made me drop my **** more than anything other than a mage: thank god we got a mage). But I wouldn't say he has "0 reason to exist".
Edit: And to clarify I meant Roy representing that generation, and that generation (i.e. FE6/FE7) being the Western gateway.
I'm one of the few people who played through those Fire Emblem games before playing Melee :o

 

[LIQUID12A]

I don't deny that. An FE7 inclusion would definitely be more relevant than Roy. But I wouldn't say he has "0 reason to exist".

Roy haters, just ignore

Let those damn elitists say he has 0 reason to exist

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

I used to not like Roy or appreciate him much after Melee due him being popular from Smash alone. However, after playing some of FE6 and seeing peoples' depiction on him from the source game viewpoint, I actually grew to like him and love to use him in Project M (who took time to make sure he feels unique). Heck, I think he could have been a good Elibe-rep to SSB4 if being his own character fully (or something P:M did).
As an unit though, he's kind of mediocre so far.


I think he deserves to be in future Smash-titles from Elibe-representation standpoint (I mean, Lyn's currently sole one and she's an Assist despite her popularity), and if he'd also be fully unique character than a clone. He though needs to have his source games and backstory become more known and public outside of Japan. I suggest a one sole remake chronicling the whole Elibe-saga to do that.

 

[shrooby]

Speaking of Roy, I asked a friend of mine to take this picture for me:

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[LIQUID12A]

Speaking of Roy, I asked a friend of mine to take this picture for me:

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Spoiler: to not ruin the image

"Kill him! He's an imposter!"

 

[Sayjin]

Edit: And to clarify I meant Roy representing that generation, and that generation (i.e. FE6/FE7) being the Western gateway.
I'm one of the few people who played through those Fire Emblem games before playing Melee :o

Okay, I misinterpreted then. I thought you meant both games, rather than that "saga" in general.

Still don't see how the way I answered was facetious at all. Ike already has a flaming sword in Smash. Marth has a Roy coloring. Sure, it's not an Alph or Koopa Kids situation, but still. It is a little weird that it isn't a situation like that, but I guess they didn't feel it was right to do so without his flames, and adding flames would possibly require him to be a clone? From what I've heard (though I haven't paid much attention at all), Dark Pit's only change is aesthetic on his attacks, which would be the same as Roy if they wanted to stay true to his old self.

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

Speaking of Roy, I asked a friend of mine to take this picture for me:

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Roy is the new Chrom now? Damn.

 

[shrooby]

Roy is the new Chrom now? Damn.

No he's not.
Roy has previously gotten a chance, where as Chrom is still waiting for another day to give him his first chance.

Nah, I like Roy. I've got nothin' against him or his fans.
I love using him in Project M.

 

[LIQUID12A]

No he's not.
Roy has previously gotten a chance, where as Chrom is still waiting for another day to give him his first chance.

Technically Chrom got his first chance by assisting in a Final Smash

 

[Reila]

Pink Robin actually looks quite awesome (or maybe I am biased since my Robin is pink haired). Also, online match.

 

[.Shìkì]

From Zipzos Stream: Spamming Arcfire 5 times will expire the fire-tome, doing 3 Thorons will expire the thunder-tome, 4 or 5 nosferatu will expire that tome. He didn't try how many times he can use ElWind. No info on whether normal thunder will make the tome expire less fast or if they only recharge after losing the tome completely. Also, Wind and Fire jabs are NOT depending on the tome you hold so it seems like pressing "" will trigger the fire one and "Hold" is the wind one. Either Elwind has many charges, or wind jab doesn't cost vulnerability, or the tomes also regenerate if you do not use them for a while.

Oh and Elwind first hit "spikes" or meteor smashes, whichever is the one that can end before being ko'd at the bottom hurtbox. Cannot say anything about the second hit of Elwind, i suspect it to meteor/spike too though.

 

[Hydde]

Just saw elwind in action in the stream from nintendo. Yeh it left robin in helpless state

 

[Another K-2L Survivor]

Pink Robin actually looks quite awesome (or maybe I am biased since my Robin is pink haired). Also, online match.

I actually really love Pink Robin now that I've seen her in motion. Don't think it'll often be the palette swap I use, but I'll definitely visit it from time to time.