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The Merc

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Hello, welcome to the daily Falco rant. Your time shall be wasted reading this starting... now. :p

You mean patch 1.0.4 which fixed his Fair landing hitbox and made it do 5% and "made Blaster fire faster"? I seriously have no idea what that even meant... Should ask Lavani or someone to record it... Patch 1.0.8 was his only major patch which only made his air game better by making his Uair faster by 3 frames, lose a sourspot, and have angles changed, Nair autolink for the looping hits so people don't fall out and have larger hitboxes and always launches his opponent in front of him, Dair no longer spikes grounded opponents, but sends them up at an 80 degree angle and the spike hitbox stays 1 frame longer, and Fair faster by 2 frames, the looping hits refresh 2 frames faster, do 1% more damage, have 7 frames less of landing lag - 32 to 25 -, and the landing hit have more knockback. In return, Uair does 1% less, does less knockback, Nair does 1% less, the Fair landing hit does 2% less, and Falco Phantasm is 1 frame slower - thanks, it's like when Side Smash became 1 frame slower from Brawl to Smash 4 because frame 16 wasn't slow enough.

Outside of that... no other patches have done anything significant to him. Up Smash has better hitboxes and lasts a bit longer - the second hit used to be frame 13-20, but is now 12-21 - and rapid jab transitions 1 frame faster, but is still not a true combo from jab 2, so characters like Luigi can just mash buttons and punish him for attempting to use an option almost everyone has. Falco's changes are more like quality of life stuff. Uair being faster and more like ZSS's means he can combo and rack up damage faster which he could in the past, but at a slower and less guaranteed rate at low percents. Funny enough, his Uair used to be stronger than Rosalina's and is still just as strong despite doing less damage and less knockback, but he doesn't have that vertical range she has and Falco has to be precise since he falls quickly. Fair being faster means Falco is can time it easier... That's pretty much it. Fair's still the same godplayer edgeguard move he has, but it'd be the same for Pikachu and Sonic if they could dip as low as he can. Nair connecting better is probably his biggest change since it means he can lock you into at most, 11% and control where he sends you. Everything else is more or less Falco and people picking him up are the same people who picked up Meta Knight, Wii Fit Trainer, and Kirby because they have function slightly better. It's not like Ike, Marth, and Lucina who had major game-changing changes to their tools.

Of all the changes they didn't do, it was change his Blaster end lag. To make it worse, all of Fox's Blaster have 3 less frames of end lag. This includes his default Blaster which pretty much overshadows Falco's Burst Blaster in every way now because Burst Blaster used to have less end lag, but now it's the same as Fox's default Blaster. Should I mention that Fox's default Blaster covers about 85% of FD while Falco's Burst Blaster only covers 67.5%? Impact Blaster, the one-shot-only Falco Blaster or 64 Fox Blaster has the same end lag as Fox's default now at 40 frames while Falco's has 59 frames. It does 1% less than Falco's, but it still cause people to flinch while having 10% less range than Falco's which covers 75%. Let's also remind everyone how Robin, the Pits, and Greninja - his was more of startup change that affected his end lag - had end lag changes to their main projectiles in patch 1.1.0. There's a point where people calling a projectile a Falco laser becomes really, really ironic.

From the top of my head, Marth, Lucina, Zelda, and Ike were patched more frequently than other characters. I think they were affected by all the character-changing patches. Falco's more in line with what Robin, Dr. Mario, Charizard, Bowser, and Link where there were changes in some of the patches.
LOL


Though all seriousness, i see your points.

I guess.......
That ain't Falco :4falco:

Sorry to break it to you, but it's pink.

Purple is for the Backroomers from Melee/Brawl. (Like me)

Unfortunately the mod Red overrides it.
Eh, more like a violet
 

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Nyet?



Uh

Yeah I know tier list mean nothing but still, Weggie number 1 :3
Doc is higher than Luigi in Melee. That's still Mario, therefore he's better.
I was thinking more magenta, just like DA MURRAY!!!!!

Sly Cooper needs a sequel already, just like Kid Icarus, F-Zero, a real Metroid Prime, and Megaman.
 
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I don't know if anyone posted this yet but the Link Nendoroid is just amazing~



I just had to preorder him cause y'know, the Hero of Time is best hero
 

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Sly Cooper needs a sequel already.
Well we're getting a movie in 20XX 2016 so dat's pretty sweet. I do still REALLY hope we get a sequel after Thieves in Time, cause that game was NOT a worthy finale to such an amazing series (even though I thought it was a decent game overall).
Yeah! Sly Cooper! High five!


... ow...
T H I E F B O Y Z !


I don't know if anyone posted this yet but the Link Nendoroid is just amazing~



I just had to preorder him cause y'know, the Hero of Time is best hero
Well @Unkown Hero was using the one on the left as his avatar, but nobodies posted the whole image. Nendroids are sooooo adorable!
 
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Well we're getting a movie in 20XX 2016 so dat's pretty sweet. I do still REALLY hope we get a sequel after Thieves in Time, cause that game was NOT a worthy finale to such an amazing series (even though I thought it was a decent game overall).

T H I E F B O Y Z !



Well @Unkown Hero was using the one on the left as his avatar, but nobodies posted the whole image. Nendroids are sooooo adorable!
That and the Rachel and Clank movie have to be great, or else Sony's gonna have to taste Nintendo's wrath(if the movie rumors are true).
Nah, it's Violet, just like Vio




Luigi still number 1
Wario No.1 and is the legend.
 

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I don't know if anyone posted this yet but the Link Nendoroid is just amazing~



I just had to preorder him cause y'know, the Hero of Time is best hero
I've seen these. Just look at my avatar!

Actually, do you know where I can get it or if there is a translated website?

That and the Rachel and Clank movie have to be great, or else Sony's gonna have to taste Nintendo's wrath(if the movie rumors are true).

Wario No.1 and is the legend.
Stuff Wario.
 

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I've seen these. Just look at my avatar!

Actually, do you know where I can get it or if there is a translated website?



Stuff Wario.
If only he didn't fart. Like Palutena says, they're both gross and dangerous.
 

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I've seen these. Just look at my avatar!

Actually, do you know where I can get it or if there is a translated website?
There's a few sites in English where you can order, such as AmiAmi and Hobby Search.
I can vouch for you on AmiAmi if you're skeptical, I've order plenty of times from there. And of course, it sends from Japan so shipping can get expensive (with the fastest "EMS" ranging from $10-20 from my previous orders).
 

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Comin in this mornin just to drop back in and say hello again!

I've been playing Street Fighter 2010 and getting my ass kicked the entire time. This game is REALLY merciless, damn. I'm taking my personal break cause I've reached Planet 4's Boss and it has put me at my wit's end. I just don't know how I'm going to tackle this foe!

In the meantime, how are all the lovely Robins doing?
 

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I still need to know if Hawlucha will ever be confirmed,
 

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Hm. Awfully slow this morning. I'm gonna ask a question to see if I can get things moving. I have no idea if its just me but let me ask you folks: Have you ever played stock matches, either standard 4 player or 8 player, against the cpus in the game and noticed that for whatever reason, some specific characters somehow outlive the others, and possibly even win the match? Not necessarily because of anything technical like frames or something but it likely contributes, just the characters somehow surviving to the end of the match. The characters that have done this, at least for me, are as follows:

In no particular order: :4dedede:, :4diddy:, :4duckhunt:,:4lucario:, :4marth:& :4lucina: (but only after the latest patches), :4pacman:, :4peach:, :4pikachu:, :rosalina:, :4wiifit:, :4yoshi:, :4zelda:, and :4zss:.

I have no idea if it's just me but I just wanted to share it and see if you guys notice the same thing in your games, possibly with different characters.
 
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"It's Italian. 10/10."
That's what the Smash 4 Stage list is going to be if people whine and ***** about every Naga forsaken stage.
I am italian, does it mean that I'm rated 10/10? :D

Let's be serious now, what does "is italian" mean? I'm confused...
 

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I nearly sh*t myself from seeing this while listening to Batman music. Such beauty, and I bet Pit got caught for robbing all the hearts for the Zelda games.

Also, I for some reason expected his Uprising expressions but reworked into Fates/Awakening, but thus works to...Pit, Zelda, and Link for dlc/spotpass characters.
 

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I still need to know if Hawlucha will ever be confirmed,

A Pikachu clone? If the Smash Fandom has taught me anything, I should rage at the developers for wasting resources on another Pikachu when they should have put all that effort on [Insert Favorite Pokémon Here].
 

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A Pikachu clone? If the Smash Fandom has taught me anything, I should rage at the developers for wasting resources on another Pikachu when they should have put all that effort on [Insert Favorite Pokémon Here].
Imagine this Pikachu became a character in Smash instead?
 
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I still need to know if Hawlucha will ever be confirmed,
GIMME! GIMME! GIMME!
Pre-orders, when?
Also, Mewtwo when?


A Pikachu clone? If the Smash Fandom has taught me anything, I should rage at the developers for wasting resources on another Pikachu when they should have put all that effort on [Insert Favorite Pokémon Here].
Still a better choice than Dark Pit in Smash.
 
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