Social "Time to Tip the Scales!" - Robin Social Thread

[Chapter Serf]

@ LIQUID12A

That Tarot Card set, I'm assuming that's just somebody's fan art?

 

[Wintropy]

<--The only lord in FE who, no matter what you do, never ends up with any girls or a romantic partner.

Headcanon is still that Ike is gay.

Ike x Soren oh-tee-pee~

 

[LIQUID12A]

@ LIQUID12A

That Tarot Card set, I'm assuming that's just somebody's fan art?

I'm guessing you've never heard of quas-quas?

 

[Nah]

Lately I've been feeling like picking up another character as a main. But should I have 3 mains? Or drop Lucina as a main to make room (sure as **** never not maining Robin)? But who do I pick? Who gives good matchup coverage with Robin? I decided to main Robin and Lucina back when they were announced for Smash 4 because I like 'em and stuff, but what if there's a character that suits my natural playstyle that would really click with me? But idk what my playstyle is even, or who fits what playstyle. Or just not pick up a new main and git gud?

much confuse

what do

Headcanon is still that Ike is gay.

Ike x Soren oh-tee-pee~

It really wouldn't surprise me if Ike was in fact gay for Soren and/or Ranulf.

 

[Célja]

Lately I've been feeling like picking up another character as a main. But should I have 3 mains? Or drop Lucina as a main to make room (sure as **** never not maining Robin)? But who do I pick? Who gives good matchup coverage with Robin? I decided to main Robin and Lucina back when they were announced for Smash 4 because I like 'em and stuff, but what if there's a character that suits my natural playstyle that would really click with me? But idk what my playstyle is even, or who fits what playstyle. Or just not pick up a new main and git gud?

much confuse

what do

What I would say is just go and test out several characters and see which ones fit your fancy if you're looking for a certain playstyle. If you're really looking for someone to cover Robin's weaknesses, I'm not sure who would be a good choice. A couple people I know have a Yoshi/Sonic as a back up character. I would suggest you really get a character locked down first before looking for another character to bring in.

 

[9029]

@ LIQUID12A
*Sees The World card.*

[wrrrryyyy intensifies]

 

[☆Jazz☆]

Oh my, i've missed alot alreadieee. Better say a Random Bad Pun.



What do you become after drinking a little sip of Foresaken Red Bull?

Half?

All?

 

[Chapter Serf]

I'm guessing you've never heard of quas-quas?

Correct.
I thought it was a Tarot Card Set.

 

[LIQUID12A]

Correct.
I thought it was a Tarot Card Set.

That IS a tarot card set.

One that was being completed for several months now.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Oh my, i've missed alot alreadieee. Better say a Random Bad Pun.



What do you become after drinking a little sip of Foresaken Red Bull?

Half?

All?

Centurions are so dumb and weak(or just really ripped, but still dumb). They have the most annoying voices in KI history, bit country Thatanos.

 

[Devil May Plop]

I just finished auditions and aaaggghhh I'm so nervous...!
If I have a heart attack, it probably wasn't Kira's fault.

 

[9029]

I just finished auditions and aaaggghhh I'm so nervous...!
If I have a heart attack, it probably wasn't Kira's fault.

 

[☆Jazz☆]

All that's missing is a good critical hit quote!

 

[The Merc]

@ Chapter Serf

 

[LIQUID12A]

Would anyone want to play some games for fun?

 

[Wintropy]

Lately I've been feeling like picking up another character as a main. But should I have 3 mains? Or drop Lucina as a main to make room (sure as **** never not maining Robin)? But who do I pick? Who gives good matchup coverage with Robin? I decided to main Robin and Lucina back when they were announced for Smash 4 because I like 'em and stuff, but what if there's a character that suits my natural playstyle that would really click with me? But idk what my playstyle is even, or who fits what playstyle. Or just not pick up a new main and git gud?

much confuse

what do

Pick a top-tier.

Unless you're very confident in your main, it's a good idea to have a pocket or two just in case. My main is Pit, but technically Palutena is too, I'd just be much more confident with Pit as a competitive character. Pit doesn't really have any truly fantastic or horrid matchups (+1 / -1 is extreme for him) so I can get away with it against most opponents of the same skill level.

Robin is more polarised, she has some good matchups and some really ****ty matchups. Sometimes it's wise to just switch out for a difficult matchup. You could in theory beat 90% of the cast if you pick a top-tier, which would itself mitigate the need for other pockets, but you don't want to just do it for utilitarian reasons. You need to find a character you can have fun with and dedicate yourself to.

Extended diatribe aside, pick a character that works for you and that can cover your poor matchups. If that character happens to be Lucina, then so be it.

 

[Mr. Johan]

I have this Pit player here in OK that runs my Robin through the grinder. Why is Dsmash so fast. Why does Dair have set knockback to where if it's not stageteched it's a guaranteed Fsmash. Why is his back roll so good. budffldslnhflsnsua

I just use Sonic for that MU nowadays. He thinks it's Pit's hardest matchup by a country mile.

 

[Wintropy]

I have this Pit player here in OK that runs my Robin through the grinder. Why is Dsmash so fast. Why does Dair have set knockback to where if it's not stageteched it's a guaranteed Fsmash. Why is his back roll so good. budffldslnhflsnsua

Really? I have difficulty with Robin even though I've fought most of you guys and Timid plays her.

If Pit beats you, it's because you let him dictate the pace of the match. Pit is very, very good at forcing you to move on reaction, at which point he can punish you for it.

I just use Sonic for that MU nowadays. He thinks it's Pit's hardest matchup by a country mile.

I don't think it is. I think Zero Suit Samus is probably our most difficult matchup, since she's a devil for punishment herself, in addition to the fact that her mid-range options just invalidate most of ours in neutral.

Just my opinion, of course~ ;3

 

[LIQUID12A]

Would anyone want to play some games for fun?

Still open.

 

[Deleted member]

Just hit 1600 even matches with

Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.~

Would anyone be up for matches between now and tomorrow night?

That is my last timeframe for matches before moving back to college.

@Koiba

@Matsushi

 

[Mr. Johan]

Remind me to play you when I get my Wii U back, either this Friday or the next, @ Wintropy . I could use the extended Pit practice.

As for Sonic, it may just be due to his own particular style, one which my particular style of Sonic handles well with any character he uses other than Falco.

 

[RobinOnDrugs]

"My sweet, sweet Robin..."

I had to repost this.

 

[Wintropy]

Remind me to play you when I get my Wii U back, either this Friday or the next, @ Wintropy . I could use the extended Pit practice.

As for Sonic, it may just be due to his own particular style, one which my particular style of Sonic handles well with any character he uses other than Falco.

Sure, I'd love to~

Oh, don't get me wrong, Sonic is a jerk for us. But that's 'cos he's a jerk for everybody~ ;3

@ Chapter Serf

Wonderful model!

But the eyes, man.

The eyes.

I see them in my nightmares.

 

[Mr. Johan]

Now that's not true. Sonic is not a jerk to everybody. Luigi beats him handily.

Mostly because Luigi beats everyone in the game. He's the real jerk.

 

[Wintropy]

Now that's not true. Sonic is not a jerk to everybody. Luigi beats him handily.

Mostly because Luigi beats everyone in the game. He's the real jerk.

Except Sheik.

And Zero Suit Samus.

And Ness.

And Mario.

Luigi is overrated~ ;3

 

[Mr. Johan]

Only a matter of time, Winny.

Eventually everyone will see the light.

Probably this light.

 

[Wintropy]

I have a friend who plays Luigi.

I love to watch him squirm beneath my fleece-decked sandals~ ;3

Nah he's good but I think he's vastly overrated in tier lists. He has a good projectile that can force an approach, a ridonk-a-donk grab game, punishes for days and a combo-breaker n-air.

He has good tools, but he suffers out of his element. In the air or off-stage, he's very easy to catch and snatch.

My brother refers to him as a "party trick": he gets decent results and has a dynamic toolkit, but I think he will drop down in due time when we figure out how to counter the Green Menace.

 

[Célja]

So after playing this Zelda on For Glory for about an hour, I got interested and might pick her up.


How do I play this wannabe Jojo?

 

[Kenith]

Wonderful model!

But the eyes, man.

The eyes.

I see them in my nightmares.

I've posted this multiple times in other places, but I am proud of it.

 

[RobinOnDrugs]

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I've posted this multiple times in other places, but I am proud of it.

Honestly, the face just needs to be worked on and it would be pretty dank.

 

[Devil May Plop]

"Users: 13"
*Sees 10*
You know what's comin'.

 

[Kenith]

Lately I've been feeling like picking up another character as a main. But should I have 3 mains? Or drop Lucina as a main to make room (sure as **** never not maining Robin)?

Have three mains.
Before you consider dropping Lucina, reminder that I can find where you live.

 

[Milo AKA Papa]

You know what they say

Also I'm free to play @those who are asking. if they're willing to play on the 3DS :^)

 

[Deleted member]

As a Luigi main, Luigi is overrated.

Yeah, he can easily get damage in a grab, but that's easily avoidable with DI; if the Luigi predicts the DI wrong, there will be little damage. It's much harder for the bigger targets, but the more floaty and thinner ones don't get punished as much by him.
Luigi has a kill option with his Cyclone... but it mostly kills at 100% and it's easy to avoid with proper SDI and the kill itself is harder to accomplish than Diddy's old Hoo-Hah and even Robin's current Checkmate. Down throw to bair isn't as easy either.
Gimp him or attack him off-stage. One hit and he is done.
Why complain about Luigi's damage percentages? I could easily say how ridiculous some moves are in terms of percents for other characters. Damage nerfs wouldn't even help the cause because it makes it easier for Luigi to combo you.
If you can, camp him out. Characters like Mega Man and R.O.B. mess him up specifically for this reason. He can't handle their projectiles and easily gets camped by them.
Also, his traction is terrible. It's a major, glaring weakness of his, alongside his floatiness.

I don't even understand why people even claim that he's top 5 when the results at majors like Apex, CEO, and EVO say otherwise. Sure, he makes top 32 or whatever and there have been players that put an impressive amount of work with him, but he never reached top 8 in these areas. Why target Luigi specifically when there are bigger threats than him, like Sheik?
If Luigi does gets in so much damage from a single grab, it's your fault for not DIing properly or doing a move where he can rush in and punish you.

Luigi doesn't need nerfs. He isn't some "demon." He may be frustrating to fight, but he can easily be taken care of if you know what to do. If you are frustrated by Luigi so much, then pick up a character that screws him over if you are tired out by him, like Mega Man for example. That matchup is 70:30 Mega Man (and it gets worse with Customs).

 

[RobinOnDrugs]

Luigi is just played by so many people. That's all.

It's like how there's so many Falcon players but he never places very high in major tournaments. Luigi though has been lucky to have received many buffs throughout Sm4sh's life so far.

 

[Champ Gold]

As a Luigi main, Luigi is overrated.
Yeah, he can easily get damage in a grab, but that's easily avoidable with DI; if the Luigi predicts the DI wrong, there will be little damage. It's much harder for the bigger targets, but the more floaty and thinner ones don't get punished as much by him.
Luigi has a kill option with his Cyclone... but it mostly kills at 100% and it's easy to avoid with proper SDI and the kill itself is harder to accomplish than Diddy's old Hoo-Hah and even Robin's current Checkmate. Down throw to bair isn't as easy either.
Gimp him or attack him off-stage. One hit and he is done.
Why complain about Luigi's damage percentages? I could easily say how ridiculous some moves are in terms of percents for other characters. Damage nerfs wouldn't even help the cause because it makes it easier for Luigi to combo you.
If you can, camp him out. Characters like Mega Man and R.O.B. mess him up specifically for this reason. He can't handle their projectiles and easily gets camped by them.
Also, his traction is terrible. It's a major, glaring weakness of his, alongside his floatiness.

I don't even understand why people even claim that he's top 5 when the results at majors like Apex, CEO, and EVO say otherwise. Sure, he makes top 32 or whatever and there have been players that put an impressive amount of work with him, but he never reached top 8 in these areas. Why target Luigi specifically when there are bigger threats than him, like Sheik?
If Luigi does gets in so much damage from a single grab, it's your fault for not DIing properly or doing a move where he can rush in and punish you.

Luigi doesn't need nerfs. He isn't some "demon." He may be frustrating to fight, but he can easily be taken care of if you know what to do. If you are frustrated by Luigi so much, then pick up a character that screws him over if you are tired out by him, like Mega Man for example. That matchup is 70:30 Mega Man (and it gets worse with Customs).

Because just like Yoshi, Luigi is bull**** on top of bull**** but no one will even try to figure his stuff out to master him. Remember there isn't anyone who has mastered Luigi on level like how Nairo with ZSS, Dabuz with Rosalina, Ally with Mario and ZeRo with Diddy and somewhat Sheik

 

[Wintropy]

I think it'd be a shame if Luigi got nerfed. For his myriad quirks and foibles, I still reckon he's a very balanced character with a decent set of moves at his disposal. I agree, people just need to figure out how to tackle him. He doesn't invalidate anybody in the roster, he's just very different to any other character, which is gonna cause issues for people who don't bother to understand the matchup.

As I say, I have a friend who plays a very good Luigi, I think he's tricky but doable if you know how to deal with him. I don't think there's any character in the game that is truly unbeatable or a matchup that is absolutely unwinnable; most of the time, the difference between a difficult matchup and an impossible matchup just comes down to individual skill. Every character is, to some extent, viable - and most importantly, every character has strengths and weaknesses that need to be understood and respected.

 

[Space Stranger]

Because just like Yoshi, Luigi is bull**** on top of bull**** but no one will even try to figure his stuff out to master him. Remember there isn't anyone who has mastered Luigi on level like how Nairo with ZSS, Dabuz with Rosalina, Ally with Mario and ZeRo with Diddy and somewhat Sheik

Boss says hello.

 

[Roaring Salsa]

Reminder that Luigi always wins by doing absolutely nothing
Even in Smash

 

[Deleted member]

Because just like Yoshi, Luigi is bull**** on top of bull**** but no one will even try to figure his stuff out to master him. Remember there isn't anyone who has mastered Luigi on level like how Nairo with ZSS, Dabuz with Rosalina, Ally with Mario and ZeRo with Diddy and somewhat Sheik

Now that's a bit of a salty comment.
I can name of a few good Luigi players that can be on their levels, such as Poke, ConCon, and Boss. All of these people have put in legitimate work into figuring out Luigi and have achieved results, such as Poke being able to defeat Mew2King impressively as him.

There is this poor perception that he is braindead; he is not braindead. Is he an easy to use character? Yes, but that doesn't mean that achieving results by putting no work with him prior is easy as one-two-three. No Luigi will get far by fishing for grabs, go fair-fair-fair, fish for more grabs, and then Cyclone. And if you think it's that easy, then I would gladly challenge you to a 1-on-1 Luigi ditto to prove you wrong.

You need to understand how Luigi operates and how to fight him. If you don't put in the work to learn the matchup, then you will be screwed. Most professionals will know how to handle Luigi and thus limit his chances at getting top 8 or 5.