Social "Time to Tip the Scales!" - Robin Social Thread

[Narwalgod]

Sakurai: Now i know you all wanted an awakening rep that wasn't a blue haired lord so without further a do.... i give you...












































GREGOR!!!

 

[GuyWithTheFace]

*Would be totally okay with Gregor. If only 'cause his taunts would be awesome.*

 

[Narwalgod]

*Would be totally okay with Gregor. If only 'cause his taunts would be awesome.*

Good grivingue

 

[Hokori]

Sakurai: Now i know you all wanted an awakening rep that wasn't a blue haired lord so without further a do.... i give you...












































GREGOR!!!

Gregor will be riding on Panne. That was confirmed in his trailer because Panne showed up at the very end similar to what Dark Pit did to Palutena. I know this because I have a friend who works for Nintendo

 

[Chepish]

Plot twist, there will be no more FE characters in the rooster, then Sakurai himself will be a playable character in the bride class.

 

[Narwalgod]

Plot twist, there will be no more FE characters in the rooster, then Sakurai himself will be a playable character in the bride class.

Under rosalina's gown.

 

[Delzethin]

I have a question for all of you, what would be your reaction if robin was confirmed in the sal leak?

I'd feel pretty damn good. I mean, there's still room for skepticism up until the roster is finalized and they stop making DLC, but considering the current leak is getting even more outdated and still sounds incomplete, to have a new leak that confirms Robin and turns the previous ones on their heads? Especially considering it'd mean either we're getting 4 Fire Emblem reps or that Chrom really was scrapped mid-development like Leif or the Forbidden Seven, two valid theories that get laughed at half the time outside this thread?

Not to mention the chain reaction it'd set off in the other non-leaked support threads, and on the internet in general. They'd probably make a meme out of "tipping the scales".

I guess it depends on the layout of the sword/tome combo. If all standard attacks involve the sword while tome use was through specials, I dunno. It has been said before that Sakurai scrapped the idea for Ike having his ranged attack for Ragnell because of possible of balance issues.

It wasn't the fact that it was a projectile, it was the fact that if it was true to the games it would've been fast, strong, and semi-spammable on an otherwise slow mid-range powerhouse. Robin wouldn't have that issue to begin with, most likely having more average stats.

 

[Hokori]

It wasn't the fact that it was a projectile, it was the fact that if it was true to the games it would've been fast, strong, and semi-spammable on an otherwise slow mid-range powerhouse. Robin wouldn't have that issue to begin with, most likely having more average stats.

True that, true that. Still hoping for a more tome focused Robin though. Well, first we gotta actually get Robin first.

 

[DarkChaosGames]

Well, first draft of the move-set I'm working on...

Spoiler

The main goal with all of this is to offer a moveset that requires proper planning for set-up/execution in the form of combos (B --> D+Tilt --> S+Tilt --> S+B kill combo) or (U+Tilt --> U+B damage combo) via abilities such as Ignis. Most sword abilities will inflict very little damage but will be utilized to position properly for other devastating attacks. Setting up combos however should be tricky with the limits to close range combat but landing a critical skill should allow you to alter things in to your favor. (And no I'm not going to overuse "Tip the scales" )

Jab (A): Robin smacks the opponent twice with their tome followed by a horizontal sword swipe shoving opponents away.

Dash:

UP+Tilt: Robin swings in a vertical arc upward launching foes vertically at a slight angle forward.

Side+Tilt: Wind - Robin summons a gust of wind pushing enemies back (similarly to Mario's F.L.U.D.D. with no damage inflicted).

Down+Tilt: Robin slashes diagonally downward tripping foes that are standing on the ground.

UP+Aerial:
Forward+Aerial:
Back+Aerial:
Down+Aerial:

UP+Smash:
Side+Smash:
Down+Smash:

Standard Special: Ignis - Robin takes a moment to charge, enabling their next magic attack (excluding wind) to deal increased damage or their next sword attack to have increased knockback/stun duration.

UP+Special: Arcwind - Robin creates a swirling gust of air spiraling upward (Shaped like a tornado) from his/her initial location launching robin upward and hitting foes. The tornado should have fairly weak knockback to enemies that come in to contact just enough to interrupt them and push them out a little with it but enemies within the vortex take multi-hit damage and get tossed upward as it ends. Similarly to Sonic Robin will not be able to jump again until landing but will still be able to dodge/attack.

Side+Special: Thoron - Robin sends out an electrical beam horizontally hitting all foes with high damage/knockback. The knockback distance and damage however scales based on how far away the target is from Robin's cast location (farther = stronger). This should be a potent kill move with a moderate cast time but a punishable after-cast. Hitting someone at minimal distance (0%) will at least push someone far enough that you can't be effectively punished.

Down+Special: Elfire - Robin evades backward creating a small explosion where they once stood upon landing. similar to other 'counter'-type moves only it is more based on baiting an opponent in to an area rather than being hit by them. easily punishable after-cast (caught in animation where they are holding their arm up with the tome open for a second). High damage/Above average knockback. *note* If someone is in front of you and they DO NOT move it should NOT hit them, it will only cover the diameter between where you were and where you dodged to. Robin will still fall in mid-air when using this move.

UP+Throw:
Forward+Throw:
Back+Throw:
Down+Throw:

I will update this in the next few days, but this is what I have going for it so far. I am not going to create alternate specials for the time being however.

 

[Sheddy]

with Robin being a tactful character I think he would be more of a trap character setting magic on the ground sort of like landmines and once someone steps on it the spell would trigger

 

[Delzethin]

So I saw this in the Shulk thread. Thoughts on how true or false it could be?

Hello I am a Bandai Namco worker, you can call me Mr.E. I’ve worked loosely on Super Smash Bro. 4. I can’t really tell you what I do on the
project, but it IS a place where I can get information about the game.
-Almost all characters from Brawl are back with the exception of Snake, Lucas, and Wolf.
-Shulk will be revealed at an event coming up soon.(I’m not sure which one it is, there’s been talk of them revealing him at an event coming out soon, they’re most likely deciding which event to reveal him at, but if there are any events coming up with Nintendo showing up, Keep an eye out for him)
-Ness, Captain Falcon, Luigi, R.O.B., Game and Watch, and Falco are all unlockables.
-I haven’t played Xenoblade, but there is a stage based off some kind of prison or something.
-Super Smash Bros. Wii U releases in Mid-December
-There are only around 4 new playable characters you haven’t seen.
-Chrom and Robin were debated a lot because of moveset problems with Chrom, and similarities between Ike and Marth.
Chrom seems to have been chosen over Robin due to Favor and popularity.
-There’s a new Pokemon stage based off of N’s Castle
-Lucina is an Assist Trophy
-Any Character that have been in an 8, 16, or 32 Bit game has an Assist Trophy based on their retro versions.(For example
8 Bit Mario.)
-There’s a feature in the Wii U version that allows you to upload your own “Event matches” and download other people’s
Event matches. This was also planned for the 3DS version, but was scraped due to time constraints
-Amiibo can learn from playing against Humans, you can also upload it’s “Knowledge” to the internet Via
miiverse to download to your own Amiibo so you can play against other people’s Amiibo’s that have learned from other people.
-Despite Having all the same characters the Wii U version and the 3DS version are DRASTICALLY different in terms of gameplay
(The Demo’s played at E3 and Best Buy are Early Beta builds, this is why
there wasn’t much difference)The Wii U version is more competitive based without turning off casuals and the the 3DS version is more Casual based.
I’m also not really sure where else to post my information at, this just seemed like the best place.

This is all i’m gonna reveal for now. You don’t have to believe me, I don’t really care.

It seems kind of informed, but there're also some questionable calls ("Around" 4 newcomers we haven't seen? Drastically different gameplay styles between the two versions? Assist Trophies of retro versions of every character who was on an old system?). And then there's the condescending tone of the last line...

Either way, I think it's more likely we'll see a veteran or two revealed at the event, if anything.

 

[DarkChaosGames]

So I saw this in the Shulk thread. Thoughts on how true or false it could be?



It seems kind of informed, but there're also some questionable calls ("Around" 4 newcomers we haven't seen? Drastically different gameplay styles between the two versions? Assist Trophies of retro versions of every character who was on an old system?). And then there's the condescending tone of the last line...

Either way, I think it's more likely we'll see a veteran or two revealed at the event, if anything.

I don't know why but it seems more believable than the other leaks. Maybe it is because I want to see a lot of the stuff that is posted in it. xD

Because who wouldn't want to create their own event matches?

The part about the version PLAYING different I find hard to believe beyond obvious factors such as controls.

And Robin PLS. PLS SAKURAI.

 

[Stalkos]

Hello I am a Bandai Namco worker, you can call me Mr.E. I’ve worked loosely on Super Smash Bro. 4. I can’t really tell you what I do on the
project, but it IS a place where I can get information about the game.
-Almost all characters from Brawl are back with the exception of Snake, Lucas, and Wolf.
-Shulk will be revealed at an event coming up soon.(I’m not sure which one it is, there’s been talk of them revealing him at an event coming out soon, they’re most likely deciding which event to reveal him at, but if there are any events coming up with Nintendo showing up, Keep an eye out for him)
-Ness, Captain Falcon, Luigi, R.O.B., Game and Watch, and Falco are all unlockables.
-I haven’t played Xenoblade, but there is a stage based off some kind of prison or something.
-Super Smash Bros. Wii U releases in Mid-December
-There are only around 4 new playable characters you haven’t seen.
-Chrom and Robin were debated a lot because of moveset problems with Chrom, and similarities between Ike and Marth.
Chrom seems to have been chosen over Robin due to Favor and popularity.
-There’s a new Pokemon stage based off of N’s Castle
-Lucina is an Assist Trophy
-Any Character that have been in an 8, 16, or 32 Bit game has an Assist Trophy based on their retro versions.(For example
8 Bit Mario.)
-There’s a feature in the Wii U version that allows you to upload your own “Event matches” and download other people’s
Event matches. This was also planned for the 3DS version, but was scraped due to time constraints
-Amiibo can learn from playing against Humans, you can also upload it’s “Knowledge” to the internet Via
miiverse to download to your own Amiibo so you can play against other people’s Amiibo’s that have learned from other people.
-Despite Having all the same characters the Wii U version and the 3DS version are DRASTICALLY different in terms of gameplay
(The Demo’s played at E3 and Best Buy are Early Beta builds, this is why
there wasn’t much difference)The Wii U version is more competitive based without turning off casuals and the the 3DS version is more Casual based.
I’m also not really sure where else to post my information at, this just seemed like the best place.

This is all i’m gonna reveal for now. You don’t have to believe me, I don’t really care.

Interessing kind of info, but there are some things that bothered me.

-Only Lucas, Snake and Wolf Cut. So we will see Squirtle and Ivysaur again? Would like that but i doubt it.
-Shulk Event - Could be that Smash event in japan this weekend. Too much coincidence huh...
-Unlockables - So Jigglupuff is now a starter? Again, unlikely...
- Wii U release date - predictable
-Chrom and Robin debate - Again, too much coincidence, seems like this 'leaker' got what was trending in discussion and bring up something that would call our attention
-Chrom wins by populairy - Kinda strange. First says that Chrom would bring up problems due being similar to Marth and ike. And as far as I know, in popular demmand, Lucina and Robin usually scores higher than Chrom. And Chrom gets the slot either way (only if Chrom developed a singular moveset )
-Gameplay differencces between versions - Unlikely as well, to preverse the consitence of the game.


Also, there are points that could bring instant credibility to this as well, as soon we see announced, like:

-The N Castle Stage.
-The Prision Like Stage.
-Event Match editor and download.
And so on.



Ah, and hello, this is my first post, but i'm being lurking here for a while now. Long live to Robin! So have a kermit.

 

[DarkChaosGames]

Interessing kind of info, but there are some things that bothered me.

-Only Lucas, Snake and Wolf Cut. So we will see Squirtle and Ivysaur again? Would like that but i doubt it.
-Shulk Event - Could be that Smash event in japan this weekend. Too much coincidence huh...
-Unlockables - So Jigglupuff is now a starter? Again, unlikely...
- Wii U release date - predictable
-Chrom and Robin debate - Again, too much coincidence, seems like this 'leaker' got what was trending in discussion and bring up something that would call our attention
-Chrom wins by populairy - Kinda strange. First says that Chrom would bring up problems due being similar to Marth and ike. And as far as I know, in popular demmand, Lucina and Robin usually scores higher than Chrom. And Chrom gets the slot either way (only if Chrom developed a singular moveset )
-Gameplay differencces between versions - Unlikely as well, to preverse the consitence of the game.


Also, there are points that could bring instant credibility to this as well, as soon we see announced, like:

-The N Castle Stage.
-The Prision Like Stage.
-Event Match editor and download.
And so on.



Ah, and hello, this is my first post, but i'm being lurking here for a while now. Long live to Robin! So have a kermit.

Welcome to this wonderful land of peace, happiness, rainbows and kermit the frog.

A.K.A. Smashboards.

 

[Minato Arisato]

Interessing kind of info, but there are some things that bothered me.

-Only Lucas, Snake and Wolf Cut. So we will see Squirtle and Ivysaur again? Would like that but i doubt it.
-Shulk Event - Could be that Smash event in japan this weekend. Too much coincidence huh...
-Unlockables - So Jigglupuff is now a starter? Again, unlikely...
- Wii U release date - predictable
-Chrom and Robin debate - Again, too much coincidence, seems like this 'leaker' got what was trending in discussion and bring up something that would call our attention
-Chrom wins by populairy - Kinda strange. First says that Chrom would bring up problems due being similar to Marth and ike. And as far as I know, in popular demmand, Lucina and Robin usually scores higher than Chrom. And Chrom gets the slot either way (only if Chrom developed a singular moveset )
-Gameplay differencces between versions - Unlikely as well, to preverse the consitence of the game.


Also, there are points that could bring instant credibility to this as well, as soon we see announced, like:

-The N Castle Stage.
-The Prision Like Stage.
-Event Match editor and download.
And so on.



Ah, and hello, this is my first post, but i'm being lurking here for a while now. Long live to Robin! So have a kermit.

Welcome to SmashBoards! And a worthy first post in an awesome thread, by the way.

Regarding this leak...I'm kinda iffy on it myself, but I've always been skeptical of leaks in general. Perhaps the other Robin supporters might take this leak apart? Please?!

 

[DarkChaosGames]

Welcome to SmashBoards! And a worthy first post in an awesome thread, by the way.

Regarding this leak...I'm kinda iffy on it myself, but I've always been skeptical of leaks in general. Perhaps the other Robin supporters might take this leak apart? Please?!

That is the thing about "Leaks" they can't truly be torn apart until a few pieces of it are de-confirmed. Which people can either put their trust in and wait to see if it is really true, or be skeptics and see if it is false. Non-mention of Ivysaur/Squirtle is interesting as most expected those to be cut in favour of Charizard.

The most questionable thing on there I.M.O. is that the games play "DRASTICALLY" different with no mention of HOW.

 

[Minato Arisato]

That is the thing about "Leaks" they can't truly be torn apart until a few pieces of it are de-confirmed. Which people can either put their trust in and wait to see if it is really true, or be skeptics and see if it is false. Non-mention of Ivysaur/Squirtle is interesting as most expected those to be cut in favour of Charizard.

The most questionable thing on there I.M.O. is that the games play "DRASTICALLY" different with no mention of HOW.

I suppose the event in Japan later might debunk this...or it might not. Depends. But I think the Japan event is kind of like how we had E3 and stuff. And people have noted some gameplay differences between the 3DS and WiiU versions. But I really don't like the use of the word, "around." But...um...I could nitpick at this all day, but my brain's kind of fried right now. Taking a kid to a science center drains a poor college student...

 

[Drakonis]

The lack of a mention of Ivysaur and Squirtle was probably an overseight. One while making this up or gathering info I can't tell, but it DOES seem like a lot of likely guesses aside from the stage selection.

Chrom over Robin due to popularity would be an odd one, since a lot of people who do actually care seem to favor Robin, and those who don't probably wouldn't mind any Awakening representation and usually say Chrom because he was the poster boy. Also, Sakurai having problems with Chrom's moveset, debating weither or not to take him or Robin and then choosing Chrom for popularity really doesn't sound like Sakurai to me either. If there would've been any deciding factor in Chrom's favor it'd probably be the extra work that has do go into designing Robin due to the multiple genders, costumes and such.

All in all I'll take it like any leaks: Don't believe it until something unlikely or very specific has been proven true about it.

 

[Hokori]

Regarding the leak, it seems like a mix of good guesses and confident, bold claims.

Ha ha, I don't buy it since I never blindly support any leak, but I will say that they're always fun. Mainly the anticipation of waiting until they're debunked

 

[False Sense]

I don't believe this leak. Simply put, I don't think they would make retro Assist Trophies for EVERY character they could, or that the gameplay between the two versions will be drastically different. That's now that I thought when I played the two.

 

[Hokori]

I don't believe this leak. Simply put, I don't think they would make retro Assist Trophies for EVERY character they could, or that the gameplay between the two versions will be drastically different. That's now that I thought when I played the two.

Pretty much my two biggest issues with it. Another would be the whole Chrom/Robin debate, and not due to bias. At this point, I just feel that Sakurai would go with unique (Robin) over popularity (Chrom). I say this while eyeballing some of the characters we have in the roster now. But if the whole favor was trying to make a reference to IS choosing Chrom, then I guess..

 

[False Sense]

Pretty much my two biggest issues with it. Another would be the whole Chrom/Robin debate, and not due to bias. At this point, I just feel that Sakurai would go with unique (Robin) over popularity (Chrom). I say this while eyeballing some of the characters we have in the roster now. But if the whole favor was trying to make a reference to IS choosing Chrom, then I guess..

Personally, I find the Chrom/Robin debate to be believable enough, and popularity is a factor with this sort of thing. And Chrom is the more popular of the two.

Though I do have to wonder, do we have some information on the popularity of Mario characters? Because we got Rosalina, who wasn't a very popular candidate for Smash yet seemed to be popular as a Mario character, over Bowser Jr and the like, who were rather popular as Smash candidates. But just how popular were they as Mario characters in general? That sort of information could be useful.

 

[Frenzy]

I think if either would get it, it would be Chrom. When my friend and I both played Awakening, we customized "Robin" and changed his name to our own. I never really felt that attached to Robin, and when I entered this thread I didn't even recognize him because my avatar looked completely different.

Whereas Chrom is someone I would be excited to see as a character. Heck, I'd even be cool with an alt costume for Marth based on that character (no name for spoiler).

I just think if there are any additional Fire Emblem characters, it will be Chrom. But I could be wrong.

 

[One Handed Sword]

I think the title should be changed to

'' Robin uses his 8th master seal to gain abilities!..... To tip the scales!''

 

[Chepish]

I still want to believe that Robin will get in. I mean, isn't Awakening popular enough to get 2 characters from it?

 

[Weeman]

Regardless of the legitimacy of the leak (wich we can assume it's fake for now), i would love a N's Castle stage

 

[TCT~Phantom]

Good god. We are turning into the Ridley thread in terms on insanity,

...Not like that's too bad of a thing.

 

[False Sense]

By the way, I don't know about you all, but I was quite happy to see this today.

Top 10 Want

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We've officially made Robin the 6th most wanted character here. Not bad.

 

[GuyWithTheFace]

I'm gonna say the same thing about that leak I said in the Shulk thread:

You can call me Mr. E.

 

[DarkChaosGames]

By the way, I don't know about you all, but I was quite happy to see this today.

Top 10 Want

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We've officially made Robin the 6th most wanted character here. Not bad.

Bomberman! Would've loved him and banjo as some of my favourite old-school characters but I doubt it would ever happen sadly.

Also interesting to see Chrom isn't on the list at all.

 

[Hokori]

Personally, I find the Chrom/Robin debate to be believable enough, and popularity is a factor with this sort of thing. And Chrom is the more popular of the two.

I'm just iffy on the debate, which is why I didn't list it as one of my major issues with the leak. And when I say iffy, I'm not questioning if there was a debate or not (I'm pretty sure one has come up at some point)...it's more so me trying to get into Sakura's head and see where he would stand on things, but it's hard to figure him out so I'm not worrying about it any longer

By the way, I don't know about you all, but I was quite happy to see this today.

Top 10 Want

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We've officially made Robin the 6th most wanted character here. Not bad.

This makes me happy

I'm gonna say the same thing about that leak I said in the Shulk thread. HE FREAKING CALLS HIMSELF "MR. E." LIKE MYSTERY. If that isn't the surest sign of a fake I don't know what is.

When people want to go by some mysterious codename, that's always a turn-off to make me believe you less But of course, the content matters most. Still won't worry about it until we start seeing things add up...that's if they ever do

 

[Sheddy]

By the way, I don't know about you all, but I was quite happy to see this today.

Top 10 Want

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We've officially made Robin the 6th most wanted character here. Not bad.

notice Chrom is no where to be seen

 

[Hokori]

notice Chrom is no where to be seen

Tis true, but whether or not they pay attention to our wants is a whole different story

 

[Pacack]

Tis true, but whether or not they pay attention to our wants is a whole different story

Banjo and Kazooie confirmed!

 

[Sheddy]

if they listened to people on mii verse we would have goku by now

 

[Pega-pony Princess]

By the way, I don't know about you all, but I was quite happy to see this today.

Top 10 Want

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We've officially made Robin the 6th most wanted character here. Not bad.

Guess Chrom isn't all what some people think he's cracked up to be. Indeed, this makes me quite happy. Whether Chrom is in or not, I'll take comfort in the fact that Robin is highly wanted, at least on Smashboards.

 

[FinalStarmen]

If the third part of Sal Romano's leak actualizes, with the implementation of a playable Chrom and post-release downloadable characters (I am of the expectation it will be a select few)...
...would Robin (or Lucina for that matter) be a viable choice instead of Roy?

I know there are sub-sets of speculators who would not even take the question seriously, simply because cut Melee characters seem a given, but is it really that way?

 

[Hokori]

If the third part of Sal Romano's leak actualizes, with the implementation of a playable Chrom and post-release downloadable characters (I am of the expectation it will be a select few)...
...would Robin (or Lucina for that matter) be a viable choice instead of Roy?

I know there are sub-sets of speculators who would not even take the question seriously, simply because cut Melee characters seem a given, but is it really that way?

Hm...well my opinion would be Robin/Lucina over Roy for DLC. They're recent, and popular characters. Roy is popular, but relevancy may do him in.

Although Robin/Lucina are quite viable, I still think Roy has a nice shot. But say for instance Chrom does indeed make the cut over Robin/Lucina for the initial roster...I think they may decide differently rather than having Marth, Ike, Chrom and Roy as all of FE's reps. But that's just me *shrugs*

 

[Sheddy]

in my view the only thing chrom has over Robin is that link where 8/11 characters has been confirmed Robin has good personality, be more uniqueness then Chrom, and is as we seen more requested over Chrom

 

[GuyWithTheFace]

and is as we seen more requested over Chrom

On Smashboards s/he is. Don't forget. This site isn't the general public.