Social "Time to Tip the Scales!" - Robin Social Thread

[Hong]

So of all the kinds of Robins people suggest, be it solo sword and tome Robin, paired up with Chrom Robin, summoner Robin, etc., which is your favourite?

I used to like the prospects of sword and tome the most, but these days I like the idea of just a tome. There are lots of moves I have in my head that just combine the three elements with her attacks, and they kind of fulfill the need for a disjointed hitbox regardless.

 

[Reginleif]

So of all the kinds of Robins people suggest, be it solo sword and tome Robin, paired up with Chrom Robin, summoner Robin, etc., which is your favourite?

I used to like the prospects of sword and tome the most, but these days I like the idea of just a tome. There are lots of moves I have in my head that just combine the three elements with her attacks, and they kind of fulfill the need for a disjointed hitbox regardless.

Solo Robin. What's Chrom gonna do when he turns into Grima for Final Smash other than get eaten?

 

[DarkChaosGames]

So of all the kinds of Robins people suggest, be it solo sword and tome Robin, paired up with Chrom Robin, summoner Robin, etc., which is your favourite?

I used to like the prospects of sword and tome the most, but these days I like the idea of just a tome. There are lots of moves I have in my head that just combine the three elements with her attacks, and they kind of fulfill the need for a disjointed hitbox regardless.

Tome/Sword all the way, as I have stated when I first joined here the sword is "Plan B" primarily a mage character using the sword for jabs/aerials maybe a tilt or dash attack.

Sword play would be weaker but used to set-up for more powerful attacks. A down tilt for instance could be used to trip the opponent and aid in the 'keep away' game while still showing what the character is about. Tactics.

 

[JaidynReiman]

So of all the kinds of Robins people suggest, be it solo sword and tome Robin, paired up with Chrom Robin, summoner Robin, etc., which is your favourite?

I used to like the prospects of sword and tome the most, but these days I like the idea of just a tome. There are lots of moves I have in my head that just combine the three elements with her attacks, and they kind of fulfill the need for a disjointed hitbox regardless.

I prefer JUST tome Robin. Sword and Tome would be neat, but just Tome I think would be better because it focuses entirely on magic and doesn't need to get into the whole "three FE sword users" debate. Although Sword and Tome is still better than JUST Sword, as long as Sword isn't used that much in "Sword and Tome."

 

[Baws]

I guess I'm one of the only ones who actually liked the silliness of the Bride class, though I did always want both DLC classes to be for both genders. I would have loved seeing some of the male characters fighting in a snazzy tux.

I'm also a supporter of sword/tome Robin, but I really do like the jack-of-all-trades idea and would be fine either way.

 

[JaidynReiman]

I guess I'm one of the only ones who actually liked the silliness of the Bride class, though I did always want both DLC classes to be for both genders. I would have loved seeing some of the male characters fighting in a snazzy tux.

I'm also a supporter of sword/tome Robin, but I really do like the jack-of-all-trades idea and would be fine either way.

Then the class shouldn't been called "Formal" or something else. Frankly I'm not sure what they could've called it to handle it that way, although it certainly would've been better than just "Bride" ugh...

 

[Baws]

Then the class shouldn't been called "Formal" or something else. Frankly I'm not sure what they could've called it to handle it that way, although it certainly would've been better than just "Bride" ugh...

Well like Cleric and Priest it would be Bride and Groom. Either that or the "High Class" class. Haha, get it? No?

 

[Hokori]

So of all the kinds of Robins people suggest, be it solo sword and tome Robin, paired up with Chrom Robin, summoner Robin, etc., which is your favourite?

I used to like the prospects of sword and tome the most, but these days I like the idea of just a tome. There are lots of moves I have in my head that just combine the three elements with her attacks, and they kind of fulfill the need for a disjointed hitbox regardless.

Nowadays? Just tomes, and I say that for a few reasons...1) Although the Sword/Tome combo would be pretty cool, I think tome only would be a fantastic way to show off all kinds of Fire Emblem magic rather than it being a bit downplayed due to also using a sword...2) Chrom's interest in Robin rose when he noticed that Robin could handle tomes (Robin was the first unit to have access to Tomes). Not really much of a reason at all, but it's just something I like...3) We currently already have two other dedicated swordsmen in the roster, so it would be nice to see someone dedicated to tomes.

 

[ThunderSageNun]

Tome would definitely make him/her the most unique, but a mixup of sword and tome could be fun too

 

[Pega-pony Princess]

Am I the only one who liked the 3rd class thing like what present in RD?

 

[JaidynReiman]

Am I the only one who liked the 3rd class thing like what present in RD?

Third level classes was awesome, but keep in mind that Gaiden ACTUALLY used it first.

 

[DarkChaosGames]

Screw this I've had enough time to think about it I should probably write up my own move-set idea.

It's clear what I want to see in my own mind but I have a habit of keeping too much locked away up there. Hopefully I can offer something for people to refer to whether positively or negatively (relative to their own preferences of the character)... don't expect one for awhile though as I'll be busy. At least not for a day.

As for the Bride thing I don't mind it in concept (stats/support oriented/unique combination of weapons usable) but I am not a fan of the silly stereotypes. Honestly at this point I don't care for marriage at all being locked together with someone, if something were to happen such as one member becoming abusive or something I don't need paper-work getting in the way. If you enjoy someones company and want to have a family together a ring on the finger and all the formal crap in between really shouldn't dictate that so heavily. Celebrating a serious and happy romantic relationship however should be encouraged. (WAYYY off topic)

 

[ThunderSageNun]

the 3rd tier promotion was fun, but I'm not sure how much it'd fit on games shorter than RD, they'd obviously have to rebalance some stuff to make the games challenge more fitting towards the stats cap. Kinda funny how Awakening characters can reach 50 despite only having 2 classes tiers whereas RD the limit for most units is 40 (that you can use I mean)

 

[Narwalgod]

the 3rd tier promotion was fun, but I'm not sure how much it'd fit on games shorter than RD, they'd obviously have to rebalance some stuff to make the games challenge more fitting towards the stats cap. Kinda funny how Awakening characters can reach 50 despite only having 2 classes tiers whereas RD the limit for most units is 40 (that you can use I mean)

Isnt it more if you have dlc?

 

[ThunderSageNun]

Isnt it more if you have dlc?

if you have limit breaker yes

 

[Hong]

I must be boring.

I don't like branching promotions or tier-three classes. Both Sacred Stones and Awakening had a lot of classes that didn't feel like they added anything to the game IMO. I can't believe we got Griffon Knights and fliers with tomes before we got playable Soldiers.

 

[JaidynReiman]

I must be boring.

I don't like branching promotions or tier-three classes. Both Sacred Stones and Awakening had a lot of classes that didn't feel like they added anything to the game IMO. I can't believe we got Griffon Knights and fliers with tomes before we got playable Soldiers.

Well... we got playable Soldiers BEFORE Awakening, then they cut them again. *coughNepheneecough*

Griffon Knight really felt like a stupid addition to me, though. I hate the idea of a Pegasus or Wyvern riding unit just abandoning their mount all of a sudden. In past games several characters actually had close connections to their mounts.

 

[Reginleif]

Amelia from FE8 was kinda a soldier. A recruit, to be more specific, but she was lance-only.

 

[JaidynReiman]

Amelia from FE8 was kinda a soldier. A recruit, to be more specific, but she was lance-only.

She still didn't have the Soldier class, though. In fact Soldier isn't even an option for her at all.

 

[Hong]

IMO I would have had Brigands and Fighters just have the same promotion options. Just Warrior is fine. Berserker is boring.
For fliers, Falcon Knight, Wyvern Lord, and one that both can access is fine.
Usually I knock on the Bishop class, but this time they were wise to justify it by replacing them with the War Cleric. An armoured healer was a good call.

Aside from that, yeah, Soldier would be cool. Donnel would have been perfect. It's so strange he starts out with lances but can't access them in any other class.

 

[ThunderSageNun]

to me branching classes are kind of a double edged sword, they do allow for customization of your characters to an extent, but they also kinda kill their uniqueness you know, when so many units end up having a very similar skill-set in Awakening they kinda start to feel very samey

 

[Minato Arisato]

Wait...are we still talking about Robin? I'm confused.

 

[Hong]

to me branching classes are kind of a double edged sword, they do allow for customization of your characters to an extent, but they also kinda kill their uniqueness you know, when so many units end up having a very similar skill-set in Awakening they kinda start to feel very samey

It sounds like a concept/execution thing. If they were to just trim three or so classes, I'm sure it'd be fine.

Wait...are we still talking about Robin? I'm confused.

This is the topic where you can have the most reasonable discussions about Fire Emblem, so it usually happens here.

 

[ThunderSageNun]

Wait...are we still talking about Robin? I'm confused.

WRONG, this is the topic of:

 

[Delzethin]

Aside from that, yeah, Soldier would be cool. Donnel would have been perfect. It's so strange he starts out with lances but can't access them in any other class.

Yeah, I was a little disappointed when I found out Halberdiers weren't in. I wonder if they could've done something with DLC...

 

[Weeman]

What if we got Berserker male only Robin?

 

[FlareHabanero]

This is the topic where you can have the most reasonable discussions about Fire Emblem, so it usually happens here.

http://smashboards.com/threads/you-get-no-sympathy-in-a-fire-emblem-discussion.324264/

This thread exists for that stuff.

 

[Hokori]

What if we got Berserker male only Robin?

Probably too revealing

 

[Hong]

What if we got Berserker male only Robin?

What if we get Big Hairy Barbarian Maribelle?

http://smashboards.com/threads/you-get-no-sympathy-in-a-fire-emblem-discussion.324264/

This thread exists for that stuff.

No one wants to accept the fact that Lissa is the next Fire Emblem representative in Smash Bros.

 

[Hokori]

What if we get Big Hairy Barbarian Lissa?
No one wants to accept the fact that Lissa is the next Fire Emblem representative in Smash Bros.

That sounds ridiculously hawt. She could heal me any day

 

[Pega-pony Princess]

Big hairy barbarian? I thought that was Maribelle's dream.

 

[FlareHabanero]

No one wants to accept the fact that Lissa is the next Fire Emblem representative in Smash Bros.

And apparently people refuse to talk about the HIGHLY UNIQUE, SUPER LIKELY, and EXTREMELY POPULAR character in the thread catering to said character.

 

[Hong]

And then I recalled that I mixed up Maribelle and Lissa. It's the former that has that dialog.

Spoiler

You know, we talk about Robin having various hair styles of her own, but she could also have the hair styles of other characters, too.

 

[Pega-pony Princess]

If Robin has Donnel's hairstyle and is wearing his pot on her head, I will be amused.

 

[False Sense]

And apparently people refuse to talk about the HIGHLY UNIQUE, SUPER LIKELY, and EXTREMELY POPULAR character in the thread catering to said character.

Hmm... Who exactly are you referring to? I mean, I assume you're talking about a Fire Emblem character, so that would probably mean either Chrom or Robin, yet you say this character is both highly unique (which rules out Chrom) and super likely (which rules out Robin). So who is this character that you refer to?

 

[FlareHabanero]

Hmm... Who exactly are you referring to? I mean, I assume you're talking about a Fire Emblem character, so that would probably mean either Chrom or Robin, yet you say this character is both highly unique (which rules out Chrom) and super likely (which rules out Robin). So who is this character that you refer to?

Read the title of this thread.

Also, people think Robin is highly likely because... reasons?

 

[False Sense]

Read the title of this thread.

Also, people think Robin is highly likely because... reasons?

Well, I don't really know anyone who thinks Robin is highly likely. Therefore, your reference to a character who was both highly unique and super likely is vague and misleading.

Partially joking, of course.

 

[DarkChaosGames]

Here's a question, if Robin doesn't get in and we have a new Fire Emblem game before the next smash after this one (which will likely come with the next console generation whenever that happens) then would you still support Robin even if there was a character (customizable or not) that still uses the same weaponry as a tactician? Would it depend on their personality more? Aesthetics? Importance to the plot? Or is Robin simply a timeless character in the series?

 

[False Sense]

Here's a question, if Robin doesn't get in and we have a new Fire Emblem game before the next smash after this one (which will likely come with the next console generation whenever that happens) then would you still support Robin even if there was a character (customizable or not) that still uses the same weaponry as a tactician? Would it depend on their personality more? Aesthetics? Importance to the plot? Or is Robin simply a timeless character in the series?

In that sort of situation, if Robin didn't appear in future games, I probably wouldn't support his/her inclusion. There simply wouldn't be much need of a character from an older Fire Emblem game to be added to the Smash roster. That roster spot would probably go to the most recent protagonist of the most recent game. And in that case, if there was a main character of that new Fire Emblem game who had the same kind of unique potential Robin has, I'd quickly support that character.

Frankly, while I do like Robin as a character, I support his/her inclusion more so for what he/she can bring to the table as a fighter (both in play style and in appearance), and for his/her ability to represent key aspects of the Fire Emblem franchise that Smash tragically overlooks. If a new protagonist comes along who can do the same, I'll support them.

Though personally, I'd like to see the customizable tactician concept utilized in future games. Even if that character isn't Robin him/herself, the legacy can be kept alive. Plus it will give us more of an excuse to get the Tactician character into Smash.

 

[jaytalks]

Here's a question, if Robin doesn't get in and we have a new Fire Emblem game before the next smash after this one (which will likely come with the next console generation whenever that happens) then would you still support Robin even if there was a character (customizable or not) that still uses the same weaponry as a tactician? Would it depend on their personality more? Aesthetics? Importance to the plot? Or is Robin simply a timeless character in the series?

I am definitely supportive of that, which is why I am in favor of calling Robin the Tactician in the game. So the Tactician can just be updated and fine tuned for every Smash title, representing the most recent game, and we can keep Ike and Marth. I love the tactician and grandmaster design, so I hope the new tactician keeps those. Also, I hope that Yusuke Kozaki stays around as the artist. Small things like the amazing boxart all the way to his incredible designs helped sell the game in the west (and probably worldwide).

I think the next Avatar character should have a different role than Robin. I love the idea of a shadow tactician who ends up being lost too history. A more anti-hero tactician who is a schemer or even who can help change the game's path based on your tactics and choices. Robin isn't so much as timeless but like any good avatar feels like the embodiment of the player's choices.

I imagine if Robin gets in the game, he/she will have four styles like the villager. We already got the two defaults, so we only have room for two more. Which one would you all choose?

This is my choice:

Here is a great reference for all the hairstyles. its a few posts down:
http://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=34153&page=2