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GimR · Mar 3, 2009

shanus · Mar 3, 2009

Watched some so far. Your fox can do SO many more combos. Dair utilt grab to downthrow usmash is great at low %s. Tilts and dairs and nairs can link to awesome uair chains. I'm going to post some vids later, I suggest you check em out. Nice stuff though so far. I've only gotten to watch 1 or 2.

GHNeko · Mar 3, 2009

Be sure to post these in these in the video thread. We need more variety and less falcon.

NC-Echo · Mar 3, 2009

Not bad i suppose. It's hard to tell though because your brother doesn't seem to be that good.

GimR · Mar 3, 2009

NC-Echo said:
Not bad i suppose. It's hard to tell though because your brother doesn't seem to be that good.

well, my brother isn't super technical, but he's smart. He waits and then reacts. He's still getting used to sweet spotting though(as am I, still used to Melee). Also, Charizard, at least I think, plays better if he turtles a little, I think an aggressive Charizard can be punished too easily.

Ulevo · Mar 3, 2009

I personally feel that Charizard is rather poor in Brawl Plus thus far. He simply doesn't have the assets other character do.

Also, does anyone else find it weird that Falco has that much mobility now? And you didn't use SHDL at all in the video.

RyuReiatsu · Mar 3, 2009

Not to be mean, but your Marth shouldn't be an example. You can't combo with him for a dime dude...

Shell · Mar 3, 2009

Ulevo - he shuffles like a champ; you should try some utilt / uair juggles with Charizard, especially on heavier characters. Abuse the rocksmash without being too predictable, chase off the edge with fairs and stomps and you'll be gold. He's called Rawrizard for a reason. One of my friends uses him to great success in Brawl+.

Ulevo · Mar 3, 2009

He lacks the ability to combo in comparison to the other characters is the main thing. His move set doesn't allow it effectively the way say Ivysaur does. That's my take on it. Also, shuffling with Charizard still produces noticeable lag that can be punished, which isn't exactly a good thing for a moving target. He's still better off autocanceling his aerials, which is slower, and doesn't provide much benefit to him either.

Shell · Mar 3, 2009

I will play around with him when I get time, and you may be right. I'm not awesome-sauce at DI, but I'm pretty sure he was getting some decent juggles on me, especially with the aid of platforms. Of course I'll leave it to the people that play Charizard to make a real call about it, though. I'm pretty sure the BR has already talked about him, is there anyone out there that can sum the discussion up for us?

ShortFuse · Mar 3, 2009

I'm comment on my mains (Marth & Fox)

Actually I won't even comment on that Marth. I didn't like it at all. It has nothing to do with Brawl+. It seemed pretty amateur (meaning predictable). This is from a Marth main for seven years so I might be a bit harsh.

As for Fox, it's good stuff. Just that full hop gets pretty predictable. Shine stall for mindgames and also, remember that you pillar with uTilt / drill. Also, I would have like to see more dash attack abuse. With this greater shieldstun, it's a lot more reliable to dash attack past the opponent into uTilt. Also, dAir drill is a pseudo spike that works a lot better in Brawl+ because of the hitstun.

But it definitely seems like you're enjoying yourself with his fun.

GimR · Mar 3, 2009

ShortFuse said:
I'm comment on my mains (Marth & Fox)

Actually I won't even comment on that Marth. I didn't like it at all. It has nothing to do with Brawl+. It seemed pretty amateur (meaning predictable). This is from a Marth main for seven years so I might be a bit harsh.

As for Fox, it's good stuff. Just that full hop gets pretty predictable. Shine stall for mindgames and also, remember that you pillar with uTilt / drill. Also, I would have like to see more dash attack abuse. With this greater shieldstun, it's a lot more reliable to dash attack past the opponent into uTilt. Also, dAir drill is a pseudo spike that works a lot better in Brawl+ because of the hitstun.

But it definitely seems like you're enjoying yourself with his fun.

Yeah, I don't even play Marth in Brawl, I do a have some experience with him in Melee

The only reason I really put my Marth up was because of this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16oNtsnlDk8#t=4m17s

BTW I put some links for Just the COMBOS

TokiDoki · Mar 3, 2009

Maybe if you revolve charizard's game around fair since it can gimp pretty easily. But I don't know I have yet to play it.

GimR · Mar 3, 2009

TokiDoki said:
Maybe if you revolve charizard's game around fair since it can gimp pretty easily. But I don't know I have yet to play it.

Yeah, once we started playing more and more, he started to get me with that a good amount. Double F-air off the stage = death lol

RyuReiatsu · Mar 3, 2009

God-is-my-Rock said:
Yeah, I don't even play Marth in Brawl, I do a have some experience with him in Melee

The only reason I really put my Marth up was because of this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16oNtsnlDk8#t=4m17s

BTW I put some links for Just the COMBOS

There were mostly NO combos until that one, which is at the end of the video.
I love doing it too, don't you feel proud when you pull it off? :laugh:

GimR · Mar 3, 2009

RyuReiatsu said:
There were mostly NO combos until that one, which is at the end of the video.
I love doing it too, don't you feel proud when you pull it off?

Yeah, that's why I put it up :chuckle:

Blank Mauser · Mar 3, 2009

Videos are great. Only seen a few of Falcon and Fox but they were sweet. Reminds me of Melee, throwing those knees out there.

Don't have much critique, just good vids. =P

~tgm_Zeej · Mar 3, 2009

Charizard needs more tilts.

Not bad.

ph00tbag · Mar 4, 2009

You should make sure you know how to recover as Wario before you use him as an example. The combos are great, but you could have done better in the realm of getting back on stage in those vids.

Roxas215 · Mar 4, 2009

Only saw the peach vs pt vid(as peach is the only char i care about in brawl+)

Your peach is pretty good. I know she is capable of more combos but i like the use of her glide.

Also not to be mean but what the hell was your brother doing with squirtle? I mean peach was over 100 and he don't go for the down throw?

thesage · Mar 5, 2009

Needs more Ness.... dair -> pkt2 = borked lol.

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