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This gen's consoles suck!

Mardyke

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I think they should get actual gamers behind the wheels for game projects instead of cash hungry bigwigs. It might work.
Just because the gaming audience can whine about what they don't like harder than a bigwig doesn't mean that they have an ounce of creativity in them, bear in mind. :bee:
 

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Just because the gaming audience can whine about what they don't like harder than a bigwig doesn't mean that they have an ounce of creativity in them, bear in mind. :bee:
True, but some certainly do, and they also know what gamers actually like.

A lot of game developers are really out of touch with their inability to put an experience together properly. One shining example is making a game cool and M rated by putting loads of unnecessary profanities in. Just saying, a lot of developers/storywriters etc really know how to screw stuff up these days.
 

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This is funny, ranting about this gen's consoles, considering the steamy pile of turd the last one was. Do I need to mention the GC's run? It's considered by many people to be one of the worst consoles on par with the dreamcast, the 3DO and the Jaguar. Sure it had some decent games, but making a list of 10 of them feels like fishing with tooth floss.

In fact, the PS2 is the only console that made profit. And it's still going.
One of the prolonging questions to me is: if the PS3 sucks so much, why continue pumping out exclusive PS2 games that are actually good? Persona 4 is a perfect example. It won a bunch of awards, and great reviews, but it's on the PS2.


But as much as it's current-gen's consoles that suck, the games are the more guilty offenders.
This is one of the reasons that I'm inspired to go into game design/direction. Not as much because I've been inspired by good design, but because I want to prove to myself that I can do better. Reguardless whether I can or not.
 

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I think its not just games. Its also movies and music. I think your answer, Skrah, is to play older games. Ps1 games, SNES games. Why? There are so many that are good, and I guess people are running out of ideas. Seriously, what do you think the next Mario or Zelda title would be? (although they made a new DS Zelda game).

Actually, I can't say much, though. I don't own any of those. I really liked how the 64 games had "64" at the end of their names, haha. I only own a Gamecube, N64, PS2, Snes, GBA SP, and a PS1. Thats it.
 

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This is funny, ranting about this gen's consoles, considering the steamy pile of turd the last one was. Do I need to mention the GC's run? It's considered by many people to be one of the worst consoles on par with the dreamcast.
Hold on, what was that you just said?

Okay, first of all, the Dreamcast was an epic system, first system to have online play, excellent graphics (for it's time, duh) and it also had a neat look to it. The only thing that sucked about the Dreamcast was that it had a library that was worst than that of the Wii's. And the controller was kind of weird, but still.

And what do you mean the Gamecube had a crappy run? The gamecube was an awesome system! Yeah, it didn't have online (unless you count the Phantasy Star Online port attachment), nor did it play DvDs but it still had a wide library of excellent games. Super Mario Sunshine? Starfox Assault? Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door? Super Smash Bros. Melee?

As for last gen in general, the only thing that sucked about it was the Xbox. While yes, it had awesome graphics that could excuse it from it's many problems. First problem: It had a library that was worst than the Dreamcast's. There was only one good Xbox exclusive, and that was Halo 2 (which isn't even exclusive anymore). Plus the controller was terrible.

And the PS2 was awesome, best system of last gen (only slightly surpassing the gamcube due to the ability to play DvDs). It had the Ratchet and Clank trilogy, the Sly trilogy, the Jak trilogy, Shadow of the Colossus, Final Fantasy XII. I could go on, but I won't.

So to summarize my little post, I'll say this. The only people who thought that last gen sucked were retro elitists who think that anyone who dares make a 3D game that is better than polygons should die.
 

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Hold on, what was that you just said?

Okay, first of all, the Dreamcast was an epic system, first system to have online play, excellent graphics (for it's time, duh) and it also had a neat look to it. The only thing that sucked about the Dreamcast was that it had a library that was worst than that of the Wii's. And the controller was kind of weird, but still.

And what do you mean the Gamecube had a crappy run? The gamecube was an awesome system! Yeah, it didn't have online (unless you count the Phantasy Star Online port attachment), nor did it play DvDs but it still had a wide library of excellent games. Super Mario Sunshine? Starfox Assault? Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door? Super Smash Bros. Melee?
Flashy innovation counts for nothing if it didn't have the games to back it up.
Saying that it had a library worse than the wii's is the equivilant of saying "it's worse than diarrhea."
And, yeah, even though the gc spawned some truly amazing games like Melee, Re4, Paper Mario 2, both Zelda's and maybe Sunshine, they were disproportioned by a complete contrast of garbage.

The console itself seemed like a complete generation behind, and had mediocre sales. Even compared to the xbox. I love the gamecube, but apparently the rest of the world didn't.

Either way, every console and generation has their shining star, even if the rest is trash.
 

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The rest of the world is stupid, so don't use their opinion as a good argument.

For a console that had a library "disproportioned by a complete contrast of garbage", I find it surprising that I own about 20 games for Gamecube, all of which I've found very enjoyable. Many of which I love to death.
 

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I think the Wii is the best system out. The games are also getting better..ps3 and 360 = garbage in my eyes.
 

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Flashy innovation counts for nothing if it didn't have the games to back it up.
Saying that it had a library worse than the wii's is the equivilant of saying "it's worse than diarrhea."
Okay, let's pretend that we all live in an alternate universe in which the PS2 didn't completely suck up the sales for Dreamcast. Then I'm willing to bet that the Dreamcast would have been seen as a much better system.

And Yes, I know that a console's library is as (if not more) important as the system itself. But my point is, that Dreamcast, on it's own, was a really good system. It's just a shame that it didn't have the games to back it up.

And, yeah, even though the gc spawned some truly amazing games like Melee, Re4, Paper Mario 2, both Zelda's and maybe Sunshine, they were disproportioned by a complete contrast of garbage.
Was the SNES not the same? Yes, the SNES had some great games such as Chrono Trigger or Super Mario world, most of the games were crappy movie and cartoons tie-ins. Not to mention that many of the games were obscure one-shots made for a quick buck.

The console itself seemed like a complete generation behind, and had mediocre sales. Even compared to the xbox. I love the gamecube, but apparently the rest of the world didn't.
Nintendo's been behind for ages now. Back while everyone else was using disks, they were still using cartridges. But just because they were behind doesn't mean that the N64 wasn't a good system.
 

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I think the Wii is the best system out. The games are also getting better..ps3 and 360 = garbage in my eyes.
Lawl. Though I will wait for an explanation to back that statement up.

GC was an incredible system. Superior durability, most powerful (or that's what I heard), and a decent amount of GOOD games.

Finalark is totally right, every game has its good games outweighed by the *** games.
 

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The games are really lame. They don't have any good games that are exclusive to the system only. 360 you have to pay for the internet ps3 is an oversized psp. Can't play psp games on it can't use ps2 controllers can't use xbox controllers on the 360. 360 gets the red ring of death. Only thing they have going for them is their graphics 360 is trumped by the ps3 in that regard and after there's no good games on that over priced over sized psp.

When the conduit drops the Wii is going to spike in sales also.
 

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Both PS3 and Xbox have a superior library of games than the Wii. Nintendo could have more good exclusive games, such as Star Fox and F Zero, but they're not making any use of those series at all. Xbox internet wins, PS3's internet is pretty good and free, and Wii's internet sucks. Why would you want to use PS2/Xbox controllers when they're basically the same to their this-gen controllers?

The Wii is a piece of overhyped fail. It's lack of good games makes me cry and I wish I could have my money back.
 

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All I can say is that this blog makes me smile. I don't own any of those disappointing systems. :)

Well...I do own one of them that you mentioned, and that's the DS, which you barely mentioned and I actually do have to agree with the point you made on it. I mean seriously, has anyone gone into their local supermarket and gone to the game section lately? I know using the supermarket isn't a very good choice over your usual gaming store, but even those aren't too good. I mean, they'll have a bigger selection of good games, but none of those good games will generally stick out as something you surely must buy (partly because you already own a game that's just like it).

Anyway, I completely agree with your list. I actually sort of like Xbox 360 for some of the games, but none of them are exclusive (Halo 3 bores me tbh, and it's the only one I ever considered playing), and you always have to worry about the oh-so-powerful ring.

Wii is just...god I hate that thing. I don't even know what to really say about it to explain how much I'm disappointed in this (partially comes from loving Nintendo though, so I'll admit my disappointment here is biased). The only game I truly found worthwhile to play for the godforsaken thing is Brawl, and even the gameplay to that is beaten out by Melee anyway (not a Melee > Brawl rant...just saying), and that doesn't even really use the main feature of the Wii anyway, which is proven by the fact that you can use a Gamecube controller to play. With that said, you'd really think Nintendo would have figured out a way to make good use of their motion sensor feature in a less casual environment by now. And that's just a few of my quarrels with it.

Although I am wondering...have they thought of like...in-depth virtual reality for this thing? I mean seriously, they could make what many would possibly consider the most epic and best of all Pokemon games for this if they really put enough work and thought into it. That's not the only example I can think of, but it's definitely the main one.

Last, the PS3. Honestly, it's probably the best of the three. I have two friends who live in the exact same house who both own one (don't ask why, I guess they just couldn't get enough of the thing), and whenever I go over there they usually rent a game or two for it so I can experience the awesomeness of it. So needless to say, I've gotten my fair share of gaming on it to honestly say that it's the best. As to state what games exactly make it so, I really can't. Well...apart from Resistance. I will mention that one (it's crazy awesome...). All I can say is that my only true problems with it would be the price and lack of playback (I'm not big into online gaming as it is, so that didn't really bother me and I'm not including it). Oh, and the fact that you don't find many games for it that have multiplayer that's not online. That gets annoying. Other than that though, this thing is definitely the best.

Oh, and Skrah's postcount is miraculous (idk if it's still 666 by the time this post is done, but hey...one can hope).
 

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I've never played the 360 so I don't have an opinion on it.

The Wii has really bad games, the only good games on it are Brawl, Twilight Princess (which you can get on the Gamecube), and games that you can also get on the 360 and PS3. Plus I despise it's controller. Who wants to swing their arms around like a maniac to play a video game?

The PS3 isn't so bad, I played LittleBigPlanet and MotorStorm on my friend's PS3 and they were both really fun. It's internet is also really better than the Wii's.
 

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MGS series all the way. Sony was stupid to share the GTA series with Xbox
I'm very doubtful that Sony had a choice in the matter.

Rock Star is a third party company not directly affiliated with any of the three 1st parties.
 

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Tell me about it. :/

Seriously, if Sonic wasn't in any of the garbage that's being offered to me, I think I would kill myself due to life being so miserably boring...

Either that, or I would've just stuck with Animal Crossing for the Wii if I had to to begin with...
lol but ALL new sonic games suck now!
 

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Lawl. Though I will wait for an explanation to back that statement up.

GC was an incredible system. Superior durability, most powerful (or that's what I heard), and a decent amount of GOOD games.

Finalark is totally right, every game has its good games outweighed by the *** games.
Physically, GC is BY FAR the most powerful. I think someone dropped it off a 7-story building and it survived. XD But in terms of technical power, XBox beats it in pretty much all aspects. But IMO, GC's controller felt the most natural and responsive out of any controller I've ever used, but it might just be from years of playing Melee.

Wii has a lot of crappy games, but that's mostly because the weird control gimmick and low technical standards is attracting a LOT of third-party companies. If the Wii didn't get so many third-party companies to make games, Nintendo would have been forced to make their own games, which would more than likely be better than all the trash that is being put out by the third parties. Notice that nearly every Wii game that was actually put out by Nintendo gets good ratings.(though admittedly, first-party games for the Wii are VERY rare)
 

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Both PS3 and Xbox have a superior library of games than the Wii. Nintendo could have more good exclusive games, such as Star Fox and F Zero, but they're not making any use of those series at all. Xbox internet wins, PS3's internet is pretty good and free, and Wii's internet sucks. Why would you want to use PS2/Xbox controllers when they're basically the same to their this-gen controllers?

The Wii is a piece of overhyped fail. It's lack of good games makes me cry and I wish I could have my money back.
Want to name this superior library of games thats exclusive to each system. 360 and Ps3 is why more over hyped...You want to be able to use those controllers so you don;'t have to pay 60 dollars per controller....but whatever man.
 

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Want to name this superior library of games thats exclusive to each system. 360 and Ps3 is why more over hyped...You want to be able to use those controllers so you don;'t have to pay 60 dollars per controller....but whatever man.
I don't own a 360, so I don't know. But lets see...

The PS3 has a ton of epic exclusives.

And by the way, PS3 conrollers go for $50s. Wii controllers go for 40. Great difference, eh?
 

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A controller comes with the console, so it's not that much of a problem. Not to mention the fact that a Nunchuk+Wiimote is more expensive than a PS3/Xbox controller. And PS3 controllers have rechargeable batteries.

Nintendo has more exclusive series, of course. But they're not making any use of it. DK, F Zero, and Star Fox are just a few.

And also there are a lot of winsome PS3/Xbox games that don't go to the Wii.

And I'm just gonna post in User Blogs from now on lol. No post count ftw
 

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I'm ok with my Wii and especially DS. There are 3 types of games that I can't stand:

- FPS
- GTA-like games
- Sport simulators

This kills PS360 for me, except for their fighting games (SF, KOF, Tekken, VF).
 

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I regret buying my 360. I want to play Little Big Planet and MGS4 so baddddddd.

Long live the Gamecube!
 

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A controller comes with the console, so it's not that much of a problem. Not to mention the fact that a Nunchuk+Wiimote is more expensive than a PS3/Xbox controller. And PS3 controllers have rechargeable batteries.

Nintendo has more exclusive series, of course. But they're not making any use of it. DK, F Zero, and Star Fox are just a few.

And also there are a lot of winsome PS3/Xbox games that don't go to the Wii.

And I'm just gonna post in User Blogs from now on lol. No post count ftw
They can't really do much with DK since they sold Rare though. I like Sonic Heroes, and I haven't played much original Sonic games.

Also, it was said that Nintendo themselves haven't made much games since they have much third parties making them some. Why aren't they making any anyways? I really want a new Mario game, that would be sorta classical like but also new. Although I'm not sure if that can be done. I haven't played Universe, but I have time to get to it.

I seriously want a sequel to Super Mario World. Of course, I wouldn't want it 3d, 2d would be much better.
 

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I seriously want a sequel to Super Mario World. Of course, I wouldn't want it 3d, 2d would be much better.
They actually made a sequel to Super Mario World. Well, sort of. It's got the name, it just isn't a sequel in the sense that the game was completely original. What is this game, you ask? Why, none other than Yoshi's Island. I don't know if they included it on any of the remakes of it, but the game was originally called Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island.
 

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I'll be honest, my favorite generation in gaming was last generation (GC/PS2/GBA/XBOX).

The generation before that comes second in line for me, then the Wii generation. Games really didn't last me that long on this generation. Not sure why. There were plenty of good games, I just never got into them.

 

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Wii: Only reliable if hacked (yay for illegal actions) to install applications of a wide variety. Or, pirating games (or buy them) is an option for VC games. I treat my Wii like a portable arcade system, I have all my channel blocks full of VC games (woo HBC). Online sucks though, along with too many gimmicks.

Xbox360: Solid online play, yet, too costly for the casual gamer. I personally feel online gaming shouldn't cost due to the cost of the console AND the game bought for the online play. As stated before, the system has too many bugs, yet, a respectable variety of games.

PS3: I wouldn't know, I never owned one. :/

DS: This is an iffy one. When I had my DS, I took advantage of games that didn't require touch screen capabilities b/c I'm not a huge fan of gimmicks while playing my games. Overall, the game selection is quite solid and it's a good system overall.

PSP: Ah, the most underrated of gaming system this generation. Personally, I <3 my PSP to death, mostly due to the fact mine is hacked and has Custom Firmware installed to play PSX games along with a wide variety of emulators. If I could not implement custom firmware onto my PSP, it'd be pretty much garbage to me. The overall customization is insane (at least in my opinion). I don't think it deserves the flack it gets, but, only if it's been modded.

/End Rant
 

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PSP: Ah, the most underrated of gaming system this generation. Personally, I <3 my PSP to death, mostly due to the fact mine is hacked and has Custom Firmware installed to play PSX games along with a wide variety of emulators. If I could not implement custom firmware onto my PSP, it'd be pretty much garbage to me. The overall customization is insane (at least in my opinion). I don't think it deserves the flack it gets, but, only if it's been modded.
The PS3 is exactly like the PSP, only bigger. And with more stuff. And with two control sticks.
 

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Well, it seems as if every system in this gen heads both in the right and wrong directions of gaming.
 
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