Theory on yet unrevealed characters and the WiiU/Future Unannounced DLC Discussion

[DecaHibiki]

This part:
"On the topic of different release dates for Super Smash Bros. on Wii U and 3DS, Sakurai mentions that this was for debugging, which was necessary to avoid there being considerable differences between the two versions. If both games had a shared release date, a launch in 2015 may have occurred."
Still hoping IC for wiiU

 

[Syrek]

God!!
"Additionally, the team didn’t give the climbers a high priority since they’re unlikely to have another game installment anytime soon. Sakurai also discussed launching both 3DS/Wii U versions at the same time"
Thanks sakurai for put salt in the injury
He is saying this while he add Duck Hunter, keep R.O.B. and Mr game and watch

Thank goodness they are gone! Ice Climber's were never iconic or memorable like Duck Hunt Dog, R.O.B. or Mr. Game and Watch. They had one game that was fairly crappy and didn't play very well. The only reason people cared about them was because of Smash Bros. and even that wasn't enough for many people to give a crap, myself included. Obviously they have a following but most people I know don't give them a second thought. I'll give Ice Climber's this though, they had a unique move set..........until Rosalina and Luma came along

 

[lightdasher]

TThe only reason people cared about them was because of Smash Bros.

What is Earthbound, Fire Emblem, Kid Icarus & Game&Watch?

 

[ferioku]

Thank goodness they are gone! Ice Climber's were never iconic or memorable like Duck Hunt Dog, R.O.B. or Mr. Game and Watch. They had one game that was fairly crappy and didn't play very well. The only reason people cared about them was because of Smash Bros. and even that wasn't enough for many people to give a crap, myself included. Obviously they have a following but most people I know don't give them a second thought. I'll give Ice Climber's this though, they had a unique move set..........until Rosalina and Luma came along

You went too far with that. Just because YOU didn't want them in doesn't mean no one else did. I don't even understand how this is even funny.

 

[MagnesD3]

So Ice Climbers are Wii U and New 3ds Exclusives maybes? And I guess Sakurai must have not heard about the news of a new Star Fox hence wolf's cut, give me a ****ing break.

 

[lightdasher]

So Ice Climbers are Wii U and New 3ds Exclusives maybes?

I wish.

 

[MagnesD3]

I wish.

Its possible but its sakurai and atm I think he is garbage enough to cut them since they cant be on the 3ds even though they are completely done on the wii u version. ****ing ********. (Demote this man.)

 

[Deleted member]

Thank goodness they are gone! Ice Climber's were never iconic or memorable like Duck Hunt Dog, R.O.B. or Mr. Game and Watch. They had one game that was fairly crappy and didn't play very well. The only reason people cared about them was because of Smash Bros. and even that wasn't enough for many people to give a crap, myself included. Obviously they have a following but most people I know don't give them a second thought. I'll give Ice Climber's this though, they had a unique move set..........until Rosalina and Luma came along

Rosalina and Luma is much different from Ice Climbers. For one thing, you can't just resummon a Nana when she's killed. Nor do they have the same moveset.

And this actually gives me a bit of hope, because it wasn't just problems with the 3ds, but also time issues, meaning potential DLC still


Also, R.O.B isn't really that iconic.

 

[Dark Phazon]

During E3 Treehouse one of the Nintendo Guys said Kraid & some sort of big kremling

'that was his exact words''
K.Rool/Krusha?

Were Bosses in Smash Run

Has there been any confirmation on this?

 

[lightdasher]

Rosalina and Luma is much different from Ice Climbers. For one thing, you can't just resummon a Nana when she's killed. Nor do they have the same moveset.

And this actually gives me a bit of hope, because it wasn't just problems with the 3ds, but also time issues, meaning potential DLC still


Also, R.O.B isn't really that iconic.

This "ROB" thing wasn't even released in the EU.

 

[MysticKnives]

What is Earthbound, Fire Emblem, Kid Icarus & Game&Watch?

I get what you did there, though earthbound was already known before smash (though obviously not as much until smash).

 

[Chihiro Fujisaki]

Thank goodness they are gone! Ice Climber's were never iconic or memorable like Duck Hunt Dog, R.O.B. or Mr. Game and Watch. They had one game that was fairly crappy and didn't play very well. The only reason people cared about them was because of Smash Bros. and even that wasn't enough for many people to give a crap, myself included. Obviously they have a following but most people I know don't give them a second thought. I'll give Ice Climber's this though, they had a unique move set..........until Rosalina and Luma came along

well thats very mean spirited, there are alot of ice climber mains here

 

[lightdasher]

I get what you did there, though earthbound was already known before smash (though obviously not as much until smash).

I'd appreciate it if you'd realize the EU exists and we didn't get Earthbound officially until this year

EDIT: Scratch that, July LAST year

 

[DecaHibiki]

I get what you did there, though earthbound was already known before smash (though obviously not as much until smash).

Sorry but IC were more known than Earthbound IC is a game for NES and Arcade

 

[MysticKnives]

So Ice Climbers are Wii U and New 3ds Exclusives maybes? And I guess Sakurai must have not heard about the news of a new Star Fox hence wolf's cut, give me a ****ing break.

So Ice Climbers are Wii U and New 3ds Exclusives maybes? And I guess Sakurai must have not heard about the news of a new Star Fox hence wolf's cut, give me a ****ing break.

Wouldn't it make sense he didn't hear about it as wasn't the roster finalized in 2012?

 

[lightdasher]

Sorry but IC were more known than Earthbound IC is a game for NES and Arcade

I believe I still have my IC cartridge somewhere in my house. Probably buried somewhere in the loft.

Never played this arcade version though, but I know it existed.

 

[MagnesD3]

Wouldn't it make sense he didn't hear about it as wasn't the roster finalized in 2012?

When you work with nintendo you know, I mean they have been working on star fox apparently since the wii. Idk wolf better be dlc but the world doesnt allow good things so he wont be.

 

[MysticKnives]

I believe I still have my IC cartridge somewhere in my house. Probably buried somewhere in the loft.

Never played this arcade version though, but I know it existed.

My apologies

Sorry but IC were more known than Earthbound IC is a game for NES and Arcade

I learn something everyday

 

[lightdasher]

My apologies

Apology accepted good sir.

 

[DecaHibiki]

What if sakurai is saying this to said why are IC to be WiiU exclusive

 

[MagnesD3]

God Ice climbers were the first Retro. Whats the point of adding Duck Hunt if they are gone. I may not main or play ic's alot but god dammit were they a cool character design.

 

[Aeon Lupin]

Thank goodness they are gone! Ice Climber's were never iconic or memorable like Duck Hunt Dog, R.O.B. or Mr. Game and Watch. They had one game that was fairly crappy and didn't play very well. The only reason people cared about them was because of Smash Bros.

Well, most people don't actually like DHD or R.O.B, in fact they aren't remembered all that fondly. I can also attest that Mr G&W isn't that iconic. As for people only caring about IC because of Smash, well same goes for Captain Falcon.

 

[MysticKnives]

Apology accepted good sir.

Although I don't main any of the characters from the series mentioned above barring ness, it really is sad to see some vets go

 

[Joeyd123]

Well, most people don't actually like DHD or R.O.B, in fact they aren't remembered all that fondly. I can also attest that Mr G&W isn't that iconic. As for people only caring about IC because of Smash, well same goes for Captain Falcon.

They can never get rid of Captain Falcon, his "FALCON PUNCH!" is way too iconic to get rid of. As for the Ice Climbers, they were a very unique design, but their series is most likely done and never really was good anyway. And with characters like Rosalina and Duck Hunt their "unique design" has become a lot less unique.

 

[Aeon Lupin]

They can never get rid of Captain Falcon, his "FALCON PUNCH!" is way too iconic to get rid of. As for the Ice Climbers, they were a very unique design, but their series is most likely done and never really was good anyway. And with characters like Rosalina and Duck Hunt their "unique design" has become a lot less unique.

Not saying that they should axe Captain Falcon, in fact I advise they don't, if they don't want an angry mod on them. lol
I'm just saying the guy's reasoning against IC cut isn't sound. The reasoning you brought up, however is much more understandable.

 

[simpleglitch]

*I meant to post this earlier in response to the November 21 rumor but It didn't go*
I don't know if this really adds credibility to the leak.
IGN posted this the same day the leak was posted: http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/09...os-wii-u-to-release-in-november?+main+twitter

The "leaker" may have simply read the IGN article first before posting, using the rumor to gain credibility.

 

[TheCJBrine]

I hope the Ice Climbers are in the Wii U version.
Cutting them from both games because they couldn't work on the 3DS only is stupid. Character customizations can still work with one game having extra characters, you can't just switch things over with that certain extra character. Sorry if I'm wrong, but it's just annoying how the Ice Climbers were cut only because of the 3DS. I hope they're back in Smash 5 or actually are in the Wii U version.


Anyways, this theory seems reasonable. The lack of characters filling up the last spaces could mean we'll be getting more characters as patches or by linking the 3DS with the Wii U, but the spaces could also just be there.....
There's also an empty space on the Stage selection.....

 

[MagnesD3]

They can never get rid of Captain Falcon, his "FALCON PUNCH!" is way too iconic to get rid of. As for the Ice Climbers, they were a very unique design, but their series is most likely done and never really was good anyway. And with characters like Rosalina and Duck Hunt their "unique design" has become a lot less unique.

And by less unique they are still super unique since Rosalina is a puppet character, DHD is a projectile setup character and Ic's are a double grappler character.

 

[Sarki Soliloquy]

Alright, so think about how the data for extra characters would be stored on the Wii U/3DS and how they would be unlocked on transfer.

Wouldn't they be on disc/cartridge locked? PROBABLY.
Are you cool that these characters weren't in the initial final roster, making the roster incomplete? DEPENDS.
Would you need to get past a paywall to unlock them? NO.

Hmmm, wouldn't these make them secret characters with unlock conditions that require external input? (Hey man, mind if you link up my 3DS to your Wii U for me?) Eh, this could be some pretty unfair **** to the general non-double dip consumer. Yet at the same time, both versions retain the same roster even with the transfer equalizing them. Hell, I bet you could hack the characters into the game if you wanted!

 

[CardStealer1]

This part:
"On the topic of different release dates for Super Smash Bros. on Wii U and 3DS, Sakurai mentions that this was for debugging, which was necessary to avoid there being considerable differences between the two versions. If both games had a shared release date, a launch in 2015 may have occurred."
Still hoping IC for wiiU

I will hope till the bitter end! But it's hard to keep your head high after what Sakurai said.

 

[The Slayer]

Unique on paper, but they were clearly broken by design ever since Melee. Unfortunate that IC have to go, but in all honesty, they were pretty much hampering the design of this game for a long while. Also, Wii U only would be great if there wasn't a rule to ensure that both rosters from each game didn't differ from each other. So unless Nintendo/Sakurai is glutton for punishment, they're not going to do that.

 

[lightdasher]

What if sakurai is saying this to said why are IC to be WiiU exclusive

Where is this from?

 

[MagnesD3]

Unique on paper, but they were clearly broken by design ever since Melee. Unfortunate that they have to go, but in all honesty, they're pretty much hampering the design of this game.

They were only broken when improperly balanced, kill chain grabs and everything is fine (which they have done)

 

[DecaHibiki]

Where is this from?

what thing?

 

[Chihiro Fujisaki]

Where is this from?

i think they made it themselves

 

[Kriven]

I'll be happy if they release a free patch with the pure clone characters that were cut (Pichu, Roy, and Young Link) since those characters wouldn't take any more time or resources to create than Doc/Dark/Lucina and should have been last minute additions anyway once they decided to go the clone route...

 

[Joeyd123]

And by less unique they are still super unique since Rosalina is a puppet character, DHD is a projectile setup character and Ic's are a double grappler character.

I did not say that they werent unique. I said they are not as unique now as they were back when melee came out.

 

[MagnesD3]

I did not say that they werent unique. I said they are not as unique now as they were back when melee came out.

They still play like no other to me.

 

[lightdasher]

i think they made it themselves

what thing?

I meant more like where was the image itself from?

 

[VenomSymbiote]

I really feel restricting the Wii U roster because of the 3DS version is silly. Wouldn't it make more sense to put in as many characters in the 3DS version as possible, let people get a good taste of Smash, and then have more in the Wii U version? Do people expect MK7 to get a huge update adding all the MK8 tracks for some reason? No. Anyone who is against there being more characters regardless of version is just being silly to me.

So that's why I hope this linking rumor is true. I want some extra characters to help hype up the Wii U version. Are these extra character rumors from trusted sources that have been right before? Just curious.