goateeguy
Smash Ace
it's called a sidestep dodge dude.
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Theory of blocking in Brawl
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Wow, worldjem7, I am very impressed! Though I'm sure the shields will be more viewable when the game's launched, they've most likely toned down the visability for showing off the characters. But regardless, bravo!
@ce
Smash Apprentice
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/images/pit/pit_070809d.jpg
Doesn't that look like Ike blocking the centurion with his sword? hmm...
granted it could just be his animation when he's hit on the ground.... but i doubt it.
Doesn't that look like Ike blocking the centurion with his sword? hmm...
granted it could just be his animation when he's hit on the ground.... but i doubt it.
@ce
Smash Apprentice
Nevermind. I just read some of the other threads regarding this. apparently the shield is really pale.
My bad.
My bad.
Rx-
A.K.A. Disafter
I still think the greatest benefit of removing Bubble shields is the visual effects. Noone in their right minds can think that the bubble shields look cool. Plus they make less sense than most of the other things in the game that don't make sense.
chaos_Leader
Smash Lord
You know, I never really thought much about the shield, this thread opened me up to that, and now I'm gonna be thinking too hard about it HaHa! But seriously, Intelligent threads, like this one, are hard to come by; like diamonds in the rough.
Ess oh Aytch
Smash Ace
Good ****, worldjem.
Zelda_Fan_
Smash Journeyman
I think he's rolling to the right.
I do think there will be blocking, because of the two images of Link, and the image of Ike, in that blocking stance. And in the Ike pic you even see the little light that appears when you block.
But in Melee if you powershield doesn't that not even bring up your shield? And if so does that mean they could have just been powershielding?
On second thought, the pictures of Link don't have the light to signify that he powershielded, and his opponents weren't making contact, so unless Link and Ike both have counter moves, I think there is definitely guarding in Brawl.
I do think there will be blocking, because of the two images of Link, and the image of Ike, in that blocking stance. And in the Ike pic you even see the little light that appears when you block.
But in Melee if you powershield doesn't that not even bring up your shield? And if so does that mean they could have just been powershielding?
On second thought, the pictures of Link don't have the light to signify that he powershielded, and his opponents weren't making contact, so unless Link and Ike both have counter moves, I think there is definitely guarding in Brawl.
Pyroloserkid
Smash Master
At about, I think 57 seconds in that video, it looks like Metaknight rolls, but I have yet to see the "invisible" bubble shield.
Gannondorf the fifth
Smash Apprentice
I, personally, thought that metaknight was wavedashing. Unless there's a new form of rolling (as in, everyone dodges differently) I can't come to any other conclusion. I honestly think it'd help with the mind games if you don't see someone's shield up, but then again, the noobs will cry out "you're cheating, i hit you and did no damage" so it's a double edged sword in this case.
screw the noobs, let them cry. They're probably going to play with their noob friends anyway. Any pro or semi-pro or basically anyone who has gotten themselves immersed in one way or another into the competitive scene of Smash will know that anything goes, nothing is cheap, if you have to do (insert move here) to win then that's what you have to do (not to be mean but it's just the truth).
About the rolling: Yes, it definitely looks like it will be different than what Melee rolling was like. Rolling backwards looks like it's more of a quick dash backwards(see Meta Knight and Pit) and rolling frontwards (see Snake) looks like it will be less laggy
About the rolling: Yes, it definitely looks like it will be different than what Melee rolling was like. Rolling backwards looks like it's more of a quick dash backwards(see Meta Knight and Pit) and rolling frontwards (see Snake) looks like it will be less laggy
Ess oh Aytch
Smash Ace
^ Btw I love you
Meta-knight wasn't wavedashing.
Meta-knight wasn't wavedashing.
shadenexus18
Smash Master
All I got to say is this. There better not be a cheap trash parrying system, for this is the cheapest way to block for those who played Street Fighter III Strike and Capcom vs. Snk 2.
Comparing this to the Melee animations It's similar to Yoshi exiting his block because his side-B exit animation has him kicking out one foot. Here he's just standing, like in Melee, and exiting his block. But, this is Yoshi. Everyone will expect yoshi to have his Eggshell Block it might not mean anything to the rest of the characters. It also could mean that a similar type of blocking will be implemented into brawl that was similar to melee. So maybe "bubbles" won't totally be leaving smash but from the footage we've seen from various other characters it seems like blocking will definitely change in some way.
From that sort of logic taking from the trailer. Were also saying Lives are out which we know is false.
vesperview
Smash Hero
It would be a lot better, I hate how that shield always break.
What? I thought I left my post ambiguous enough for others to speculate and now you're saying my logic is twisted? I'm sorry if my post sounded a bit weird. All I meant was that anything could happen. But, since this...
... then I guess if this pattern is followed into Brawl then the blocking will be similar to it's predecessors.
The only thing that makes me think that the actual shielding will be different is the way the characters roll. They roll a lot more quickly than they did in Melee so maybe the blocking might be a bit different.
I'm not stating facts, I'm proposing possibilities. Please do not confuse the two.
Sanjuinuthus
Smash Apprentice
*embarrassed cough* Nevermind then....*shuffles out of topic pink-faced*
Gannondorf the fifth
Smash Apprentice
Exactly, still, you gotta wonder why hal labs is deciding to put an "aura" if you will, around a person indicating the direction he or she is flying in. It's like an unnecessary graphic to me.
I think that it might be part of the new physics system that Brawl has.
If you see and listen and compare the Hit sounds between the 3 games it's kinda like this:
SSB (N64): Most attacks are strong with very little stun sending them far
SSBM (NGC): Most attacks have some stun and only some attacks send people far
SSBB (Wii): Most attacks are hard-hitting but with much stun and only send people far with specific attacks
This is what it feels like to me from my own personal experiences and from the gameplay I've seen from the videos.
If you see and listen and compare the Hit sounds between the 3 games it's kinda like this:
SSB (N64): Most attacks are strong with very little stun sending them far
SSBM (NGC): Most attacks have some stun and only some attacks send people far
SSBB (Wii): Most attacks are hard-hitting but with much stun and only send people far with specific attacks
This is what it feels like to me from my own personal experiences and from the gameplay I've seen from the videos.
red stone
Smash Ace
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/stages/images/stage03/stage03_070612c-l.jpg
mario obviously just let go of his sheild
mario obviously just let go of his sheild
RAQU
Smash Apprentice
Agreed. That is exactly how it looks in melee.i double checked myself.
Bubble Shield Confirmed
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/movi...This=true&TB_iframe=true&height=355&width=532
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/movi...This=true&TB_iframe=true&height=355&width=532
raphtmarqui
Smash Lord
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I dont see how blocking in smash would work without the bubble shield.
:034:
Smash Hero
The new Bubble Shield is shiny. I like it.
I'm wondering something though - in the second trailer, we've seen Snake rolling (very fast, I may add). And possibly Pit too (lightning fast, even). They did this without putting up the shield first, so how is rolling gonna work? You don't need a shield anymore? Perhaps a whole new button will be used for rolling (like L for rolling, R for shielding on the GC controller)? I was always curious about this, but this update got me even more itching for a 'How To Play - Shielding & Rolling' update.
I'm wondering something though - in the second trailer, we've seen Snake rolling (very fast, I may add). And possibly Pit too (lightning fast, even). They did this without putting up the shield first, so how is rolling gonna work? You don't need a shield anymore? Perhaps a whole new button will be used for rolling (like L for rolling, R for shielding on the GC controller)? I was always curious about this, but this update got me even more itching for a 'How To Play - Shielding & Rolling' update.