The Winning Steak Cinemas: Video Archive & Criticism Thread Updated

[Kupo Rose]

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=G6KA6MUI

could someone d/l and record this for me?

Alrighty, it'll be uploaded by tommorow.


EDIT: Can I ask why do you want a Ice Climber chaingrab against a CPU recorded?

 

[Exceladon City]

Oops. I forgot about that. I will get the other ones.

 

[Sonic-Rave]

I got some replays of me versus a Peach main named GAY. If somebody would be kind enough to upload these and then critique, I'd really appreciate it. I feel like I'm lacking a bit in this MU.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/4swilqo6s7u8ytk/rp_100830_0119.bin
http://www.mediafire.com/file/nnamb83b5g845pu/rp_100830_0125.bin
http://www.mediafire.com/file/5x80zqqqgm7ds7p/rp_100830_0131.bin
http://www.mediafire.com/file/670wyy8zz1c8z9s/rp_100830_0136.bin
http://www.mediafire.com/file/fjd5s67xxeb3j91/rp_100830_0143.bin
http://www.mediafire.com/file/2cnfy01aj7ljqpm/rp_100830_0151.bin
http://www.mediafire.com/file/cm9msaahamcdctz/rp_100830_0155.bin
http://www.mediafire.com/file/n5o2jf0pg6oe9io/rp_100830_0200.bin

These are all wifi btw.

 

[NH Cody]

1st vid vs dat ike.
I notice you spotdodge when you don't need to sometimes...( atleast at the beggining of the vid a couple times) try to watch out that can turn into a nasty habit and you're opponents will begin to eat you alive if you continue.

spring owns ike's recovery, it can stop his side B and up B and the trajectory usueally either sends him away or into the stage for a stage spike. its a good edgeguarding tool in this MU.

careful with airdodges coming down on ike... or coming down on ike in general lol. try to avoid situations where ur dlb jump is gone and ike can get under you.

i would advise against spindashing toward ike without a double jump to cancel the spindash, it seems he caught on and killed you.

idk how the heck you got through his uair with dair at 2:24 lol

at high percents you can get a few pummels in even on the most dexterous of strugglers. look at there controller to see if they struggle out of grabs lol.

2nd vid vs ddd
I'm actually not that great at this MU but i'll try and help anyways.
fair is one of you're best options vs ddd i think...
don't dash grab if they are in standing grab range =_=
dthrow against walls can setup for a jab lock, there are several times you can do this on delphino and the jablock can even lead to there death when the platform flies away without them. when DDD does up B, on his way down you can hit him without trading if you're really careful. also the beggining of you're up b has invincibily.... hmmmmm
DDDs utilt is really dumb =.= try to imagine its range and just stay out of it unless you can bait it or something. it has invincibility frames so you can't beat it with any of you're moves
ddd can litterally shield grab pretty much any move

what was the fsmash at 3:37 for?
thats all i got, nice sonic.

Thanks Arikie ^^

I dunno what that fsmash was for, I just thought he would walk into it or something like he did first stock xD

 

[Kupo Rose]

Oops. I forgot about that. I will get the other ones.

I'll wait till you you upload the other ones then.

I got some replays of me versus a Peach main named GAY. If somebody would be kind enough to upload these and then critique, I'd really appreciate it. I feel like I'm lacking a bit in this MU.

http://www.mediafire.com/file/4swilqo6s7u8ytk/rp_100830_0119.bin
http://www.mediafire.com/file/nnamb83b5g845pu/rp_100830_0125.bin
http://www.mediafire.com/file/5x80zqqqgm7ds7p/rp_100830_0131.bin
http://www.mediafire.com/file/670wyy8zz1c8z9s/rp_100830_0136.bin
http://www.mediafire.com/file/fjd5s67xxeb3j91/rp_100830_0143.bin
http://www.mediafire.com/file/2cnfy01aj7ljqpm/rp_100830_0151.bin
http://www.mediafire.com/file/cm9msaahamcdctz/rp_100830_0155.bin
http://www.mediafire.com/file/n5o2jf0pg6oe9io/rp_100830_0200.bin

These are all wifi btw.

Okayyy


edit: Mind telling me which was match 1 or match 2 etc? Or does it not matter?

 

[Sonic-Rave]

I posted them chronologically so they should all be in order.

 

[Exceladon City]

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NHD5A4DT (Excel vs Dooms)

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YYV4BOBH (Excel vs Tactical)

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=IL8VIB4M (Excel vs Ryzen Xia 1)

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=5OI16ZM1 (Excel vs Ryzen Xia 2)

There we go.

 

[Kupo Rose]

Yeah, but I'm using Riivolution (unable to read SD card). Had to move them from SD card to Wii.

So that messed the order up.


@Oreo: Do you still want that Ice Climbers v CPU Kirby replay uploaded?

 

[Exceladon City]

Yeah, but I'm using Riivolution (unable to read SD card). Had to move them from SD card to Wii.

So that messed the order up.


@Oreo: Do you still want that Ice Climbers v CPU Kirby replay uploaded?

Nope. That was an accident. I forgot I had a replay of that.

 

[Sonic-Rave]

Yeah, but I'm using Riivolution (unable to read SD card). Had to move them from SD card to Wii.

So that messed the order up.


@Oreo: Do you still want that Ice Climbers v CPU Kirby replay uploaded?

Oh, in that case, don't worry about order.

 

[Kupo Rose]

Nope. That was an accident. I forgot I had a replay of that.

lol

Oh, in that case, don't worry about order.

okay dokey

 

[Sonic_King]

i need to post some vids up for the mu's soon

 

[Kupo Rose]

Here you go Rave. Did I get the order right?

http://www.youtube.com/user/SoniKupo?feature=mhum#p/u/5/Z0l67jFYWL0 - Sonic-Rave (Sonic) vs. GAY (Peach) 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB6L9W4LtB4 - Sonic-Rave (Sonic) vs. GAY (Peach) 2
http://www.youtube.com/user/SoniKupo?feature=mhum#p/u/3/R2R0dDU-znI - Sonic-Rave (Sonic) vs. GAY (Peach) 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLbr3XsikNY - Sonic-Rave (Sonic) vs. GAY (Peach) 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRLMbDVYVVk - Sonic-Rave (Sonic) vs. GAY (Peach) 5 Still processing?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFqy3xKxbVQ - Sonic-Rave (Sonic) vs. GAY (Peach) 6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zde06Cu7_r0 - Sonic-Rave (Sonic) vs. GAY (Peach) 7 Still processing?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjkLSmgkBRs - Sonic-Rave (Sonic) vs. GAY (Peach) 8

I hope video 5 and 7 aren't messed up by youtube....


Now to upload Oreo's replays.

 

[Sonic-Rave]

Thanks Kupo! Order looks about right.

And if 5 and 7 are in fact messed up by youtube:

Match 5- I make a comeback on SV (think that's the one)
Match 7- I get 2 stocked on PS1 lol.

 

[Kupo Rose]

Match 5- I make a comeback on SV (think that's the one)
Match 7- I get 2 stocked on PS1 lol.

No problem.

Yep, it's those ones, lol. They've been "processing" for quite a while now.


edit:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfw8lwAVpM8 - Oreo Excel (Sonic) vs Dooms (MetaKnight)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7HER0SFbX8 - Oreo Excel (Sonic) vs Tactical (Lucario) Still processing?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9TSylrmM7k - Oreo Excel (Sonic) vs Ryzen Xia (Falco) 1

 

[~TBS~]

I love watching Kupo's vids. The textures make it so much better...and the music. yessssssss. Kupoooo <3 no homo.

btw, excel mad that he scourge.

 

[Kupo Rose]

yessssssss. Kupoooo <3

btw, excel mad that he scourge.

That's it Speed, you're finally opening up

And lmao really? He should've expected it.


edit:

Yeaaaaaaahhhhhhhh I'm done

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfw8lwAVpM8 - Oreo Excel (Sonic) vs Dooms (MetaKnight)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7HER0SFbX8 - Oreo Excel (Sonic) vs Tactical (Lucario) Still processing?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r9TSylrmM7k - Oreo Excel (Sonic) vs Ryzen Xia (Falco) 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8j1f6-QntE - Oreo Excel (Sonic) vs Ryzen Xia (Falco) 2

 

[~TBS~]

Whoa whoa whoa whoa...I said Kupo, not Amy! D:<
I know but there are people who use green and they upset when they see dat Scourge fgt.

 

[Exceladon City]

Whoa whoa whoa whoa...I said Kupo, not Amy! D:<
I know but there are people who use green and they upset when they see dat Scourge fgt.

Green **** is better than blue ****.

boom chika ah!

 

[Joemama8]

Gold beats all fosho...

 

[Kupo Rose]

Urrgh youtube timed me out with those videos. Had to re-upload them, sorry about that Oreo and Rave.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZK6-catDnQ - Oreo Excel (Sonic) vs Tactical (Lucario) I can't watch this for some reason but since Kinzer was able watch it, I guess it's okay(?)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwzKFHIcJDA - Sonic-Rave (Sonic) vs GAY (Peach) 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmR8aHJtCzY - Sonic-Rave (Sonic) vs GAY (Peach) 7

 

[Joemama8]

good **** against GAY, rave. I played him yesterday and that was the first time I ever played a good peach. It was a lot of fun but incredibly frustrating at times. Il watch more later and give some feedback.

 

[Sonic-Rave]

Yeah, I never really had any experience in the Peach MU until I played him so I didn't really know what to do either. I just kinda let instinct pave the way on most of those matches.

 

[Kupo Rose]

I loved your use of Utilt, Rave.

I can never get that move to hit...
/scrub

 

[Sonic-Rave]

Yeah, Utilt has proven useful to me in many situations.

XLR8 got me to put more faith in Sonic's utilt.
Seriously, the guy nearly camped me with it lol.

EDIT: I start a lot of my posts with "Yeah" ... :3

 

[Kinzer]

Nothing wrong with having a signature, lolyesh.

...Actually, that'd be a good idea. Make some kind of visual guide on the not-so well-known Sonic ATs, or at least the ones that need a visual.

Anybody here good with Windows Vista/Pinnacle Studio?

 

[Trent]

It's impossible to be good with Windows Vista.

Anyways, what do you need?

 

[Exceladon City]

Hey could I get a critique on my garbage *** Sonic?

 

[Kinzer]

It's impossible to be good with Windows Vista.

Anyways, what do you need?

All too true. :/

I need to learn how to edit videos. Mostly I'd like to know how to slow down, pause (but not have it all pixelated), put a sort of blackscreen over certain moments (to make test more readable). Those are the big things I need to learn, others include being able to make cursors/pointers to put emphasis on certain things/areas/moments/etc. and being able to make transitions.

Hey could I get a critique on my garbage *** Sonic?

...The biggest thing that stuck out to me was DI/Momentum-canceling. If those were serious/MM, why did I see you die/take unnecessary damage? :/

 

[Kupo Rose]

Vista sucks. I use both. Not good with either, lol.

 

[Sonic-Rave]

Man, every time Trent posts now I'm gonna think he's speed with that avi.

And Kupo avi.....XD Scourge gettin it in?

 

[Kupo Rose]

Maybe >.> <.<


Also @ Kinzer: If you want to slow down a video using Pinnacle Studio. Right click the clip, choose "Clip Properties". A tab will open up, then click on what looks like a socket (it will say Add an effect to a video clip when you hover your mouse over it) and then choose the "Speed" effect.

...I don't know how to select certain parts of the clip though. Not even sure if Pinnacle Studio has that option I use Pinnacle Studio 11

 

[Kinzer]

...I don't know how to select certain parts of the clip though. Not even sure if Pinnacle Studio has that option I use Pinnacle Studio 11

Oh God if it doesn't I'm going to need another (free) program to help me edit videos. I forgot to mention though these will usually be in segments, and while that is good to know I really don't need a while video slowed down just to point out a specific part. ._.

 

[0mega 75]

Maybe >.> <.<

Kupo obviously loves Scourge now. Get back with Shado. lol.

 

[Sonic-Rave]

Mama obviously loves Scourge now. Get back with Daddy. lol.

Fixed it for ya.

 

[Kupo Rose]

^lol

@0mega: Didn't Shado disown you. Why do you care? ;p

Oh God if it doesn't I'm going to need another (free) program to help me edit videos. I forgot to mention though these will usually be in segments, and while that is good to know I really don't need a while video slowed down just to point out a specific part. ._.

(Sony Vegas is kinda free <.<)

I was wrong. You can slow down parts of the video in Pinnacle Studio by sliding that scroll thing to any specific point in the video, then right click and choose "Split Clip".

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[sonictailslink]

All too true. :/

I need to learn how to edit videos. Mostly I'd like to know how to slow down, pause (but not have it all pixelated), put a sort of blackscreen over certain moments (to make test more readable). Those are the big things I need to learn, others include being able to make cursors/pointers to put emphasis on certain things/areas/moments/etc. and being able to make transitions.

I can show you next time I come over to your house.

 

[Joemama8]

excel, against joey, well.... mk + hes amazing = there ya go.

but i will tell you the same thing you told me a couple weeks ago. Mix up your approaches more. Lots of spin in, run up-shield, or run up fair. do more like mid way screech stop and empty short hops if he lets you get away with it. but i mean joey is just a great player.

Against that falco (do i know him) you could have done a lot differently. espcially in the way of killing his recovery. I dont have to tell you that falco has a **** off terrible recovery. he really has 3 options and they are all punishable. He can side B to the level (you can smash it with good timing or wait where he lands and wait for the impending spot dodge) he can side B to the ledge (obvious punish is obvious) or he can fall a bit and UpB (what a bad i idea and you should almost always get a kill of this).

You started to condidtion him to punish your spin (dair it) and he hit you more than a couple times. I was playing some random wifi the other day with a guy who seemed to really know the sonic MU. He punished my roll game right from the start. 1 landed dair later, he stopped trying to punish it all together. seems very effective. I feel like overall you were not playing as well as i know you can. You can beat joey and you should have beaten that falco game 2.

Hope any of that helped at all. cant wait til siis3 man!

 

[Espy Rose]

Got some videos up.

These two are from a friendly crew battle that took place awhile back:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5zIXrqyG8w - Espy (Sonic) vs. Magik (Meta Knight)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLifuHjVrEA - Espy (Sonic) vs. Shlike (Zero Suit Samus)

These are from me at ALS:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSKK2LRDtzk - Espy (Sonic) vs. Trela (Lucario) 1-2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gbxs7_HTEZE - Espy (Sonic) vs. UTDZac (G&W) 1-3

And then these are the most recent, from S.L.U.T.2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWpemztQUKA - Espy (Sonic) vs. Nike (Marth) 1 IV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cSmRNWNHTE - Espy (Sonic) vs. Nike (Marth) 2 IV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU4rwqi0ppY - Espy (Sonic) vs. Ozz (Fox) 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWtEqHwqETg - Espy (Sonic) vs. Ozz (Fox) 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOAkf2A18D4 - Espy (Sonic) vs. Ozz (Fox) 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxnNOnxRAaU - Espy (Sonic) vs. Ozz (Fox) 4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxu5Fe3U0xc - Espy (Sonic) vs. Ozz (Fox) 5

Eh. Getting a look at myself ranging from ALS -> S.L.U.T.2...
I think I'm steadily getting worse. Gonna have to fix that.

Oh, and the thread's been updated. Yup.

PS: I love Kupo because he's probably the only one that saves me some time updating the archive by posting videos in the proper format.

<3333333333~

 

[Joemama8]

Espy, Im just curious, why is it that you never ever spring (or spring dair). I mean, i know that if you do it a lot it gets punished pretty hard, but once in a while (especially in a few of your matchs) it could have save you some grief. Im not flaming or calling you out, just curious.

Enlighten me...