The Wall - Game End.... no one wins?

[No Hetero]

/confirming

@Mod: Please send out some kind of reminder that the game is open. While I understand this could be a playstyle preference on their parts, we haven't heard from half of the cast in ages.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

@Mod: Please send out some kind of reminder that the game is open. While I understand this could be a playstyle preference on their parts, we haven't heard from half of the cast in ages.

Sorry for the family-related VLA. Will get to this within the hour.

 

[No Hetero]

I'm not entirely confident on Handorin, but he's going to get lynched and I'd rather have it sooner or later.

Kanye is feeling pretty town to me, but I don't want to trust a gut on him. Sorry I can't give you a concrete answer, but reading Ryker is ****ty to me.
Either way I'm pretty sure he's not indy with his actions.


Let's mass claim win conditions. This seems like a good list:

Already claimed:
Dark Horse
FML

Order:
Handorin
JTB
Kary
Raziek
WatchtheThrone
No Hetero
Sephiroths Masamune

Object now if there are objections.

Let's get back to this. I don't remember if JTB claimed yet. We don't care about JTB (who did he replace into?) and would really like these claims to come out in any order. Let's get it done.

Our wincon is to lynch someone the Day we've used our Waller ability on them. It should be fulfilled, as a result of Hando's lynch.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

so youre just randomly told that theyre innocent? when? dayphase or nightphase?

anyways this is like the 3rd person who has come out with this "i need to get myself wagoned/ lynched to win" ****

That wincon lines up with my theory.

Anyway, let's keep it going. I'm keeping an eye out and about ready to start on this game.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Let's get back to this. I don't remember if JTB claimed yet. We don't care about JTB (who did he replace into?) and would really like these claims to come out in any order. Let's get it done.

Our wincon is to lynch someone the Day we've used our Waller ability on them. It should be fulfilled, as a result of Hando's lynch.

LET'S DO THIS!

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Hando's lynch.

Let me just throw out there that this early hammer by No Hetero was disgusting.
Meh.

Anyway. I'm doing this as I'm reading up so keep a tab open with all posts and scroll with me.

It should be noted that I need to make 10 posts I think. Was that publicly known? Don't quickhammer, everyone unvote. Perma modvotes for two people who can make LyLo cuz quickhammer? Hell no.

Kary you hinted at not being able to fulfill your wincon if you proclaim it in thread. Discuss it with OS and come back to me.

Let me check Wall Posts today.

wait why did n2 wall have 14 posts and n1 wall too?
it decreases to 10 and 8 afterwards. weird.

@Hando give out the information. I'd love a clear to work with. I hope you got an inactive.

@1480 by Kary, did I mention I hate you?
I do have a read on Raz. It's Null-lean-town. Some of his points tilted town for me. I realize this is kinda meta-y, so yeah, that's why I'm willing to compromise him. That's the only reason I'd go him, though. I'd rather get like DH or JTB if we're killing inactives. Didn't they say they had read up?

Who won the chess thing? Person should speak up.

@Hetero: I do remember thinking Raz is disconnected with both you and WtT, I hinted towards this a long time ago. He thought Circus was part of your hydra (which is a d/c) and there was something about him and Ryker/KeviM too, forgetting them in a readlist was it, iirc?
That's a big reason for me to want to compromise him.

Also reading this I think Nabe's opinion on LurkScumRaz is respectable because they were a team in LASPM. He got to talk with Raz etc. Credible source, all in all.

No Hetero why are you insisting on making EVERYTHING a pissing contest. This is getting really obnoxious and you're actively halting town. It's making this a drag to read too.

WtT has been lining up with me a lot all game. I get the towniest of vibes from 'im and even from KevinM's side which has never happened before, even if the few posts he made were limited. Not really a candidate for me.

at 1493 now, btw.

No idea why people like FML. Really no idea.


wow 1511 what the ****?
no idea what to do wit hthat
uhh
okay?


Skimming a bit now. Sorry.

oh new puzzle
nice doing that after this post

new post for page 39 onwards for 10post minimum.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

get this.

Not really happy with WtT wanting to get inactives now. Really okay with just letting DH sail by as he's the type to worry as scum in this situation.

@FML: the surprise got canceled because of circumstances. My apologies, there might still be one though. I got something in mind.

also, I'm gonna use this 10 post minimum to keep you guys on a leash. This day is not ending before I want it to end. Inactive or not, I'll keep up with this thread from now on and make a big post when I see fit. If you quickhammer and give me a perma modvote, you get lynched instantly.

Kary is bothering me still. He has been. Ugh. He's up for the gallows.

Happy about Kary's responses to NH though. It makes sense and it makes me feel good about 'im.

yeah that's all.

All in all, I dislike Kary and FML. Raz I can... ugh. I can compromise him, also for the sake of relations which I REALLY need right now. Too bad that won't help if he flips indy or if he flips mafia to find the indy.

Talking about indy, that's one thing I was suspecting NH for. He's looking to lynch rather than scumhunt to me, but part of that is just Marshy. Then I started thinking. His role doesn't make sense as indy. It's meant to draw attention to him. But then the whole modvote and wincon thing DO line up. Meh.

We need to start indy talk.

I'd like Kary to go today. Like, really. But then again I don't want to **** up NH's groove and get Raz lynched, it gives us a lot of information to work with, which is funny 'cause he's inactive hurhur.

Anyway that's all. Sorry. Keep the claims going for me, NH. Don't claim Wall Posts yet.

 

[No Hetero]

Make me sweat.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Oh right, I'd also like to note that I feel like I haven't done a lot actually.

I kinda want to take some time to let the claims go around and figure out where to go between Raz and Kary, who are both on the table for me. Ryker and NH both need to talk about indy possibilities with each other and with me.

 

[No Hetero]

Let me just throw out there that this early hammer by No Hetero was disgusting.
Meh.

As we already said, that was to get Hando to claim. Notice the one-two punch of unvoting/revoting as if it's hydra discog, makes Hando think he's lynched. The actual hammer was made by Hando himself.

wait why did n2 wall have 14 posts and n1 wall too?
it decreases to 10 and 8 afterwards. weird.

It's always one more than the player count, and notice the ones D1 and D2 which seem to be very clearly from OS's mouth. "Puzzles are important" etc. which suggests to me he's providing the extra one.

Who won the chess thing? Person should speak up.

Any particular reason? Also, are you serious?

No Hetero why are you insisting on making EVERYTHING a pissing contest. This is getting really obnoxious and you're actively halting town. It's making this a drag to read too.

What are you referring to?

WtT has been lining up with me a lot all game. I get the towniest of vibes from 'im and even from KevinM's side which has never happened before, even if the few posts he made were limited. Not really a candidate for me.

Any town posts specifically?

@Indies, haven't given it thought. Kary seems a natural fit given interactions with July D1 and, again, Tekken vibes. Whoever is dealing out secondary wincons is probably indy, unless that was Inferno. Anyway, wincon claims should help indyhunting enormously.

 

[No Hetero]

WtT has been lining up with me a lot all game. I get the towniest of vibes from 'im and even from KevinM's side which has never happened before, even if the few posts he made were limited. Not really a candidate for me.

These EBWOP beatz

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Let's get back to this. I don't remember if JTB claimed yet. We don't care about JTB (who did he replace into?) and would really like these claims to come out in any order. Let's get it done.

Uh, I thought you just wanted to lynch Raz toDay?

Our wincon is to lynch someone the Day we've used our Waller ability on them. It should be fulfilled, as a result of Hando's lynch.

But you weren't trying to lynch me Day 2?
And you didn't target Seph toDay just to avoid a modvote?

on an unrelated note, you're either plain not reading what i post, or actively trying to strawman me. I don't like whichever it is.

Kary you hinted at not being able to fulfill your wincon if you proclaim it in thread. Discuss it with OS and come back to me.

I wasn't suggesting that it wouldn't be possible to achieve my wincon; I was pointing out that claiming your wincon might screw you over in achieving it- making it much more difficult, etc.

@Hetero: I do remember thinking Raz is disconnected with both you and WtT, I hinted towards this a long time ago. He thought Circus was part of your hydra (which is a d/c) and there was something about him and Ryker/KeviM too, forgetting them in a readlist was it, iirc?
That's a big reason for me to want to compromise him.

???
So he's not buddies with NH or WTT; that makes you want to lynch him?

We need to start indy talk.

I'd like Kary to go today. Like, really. But then again I don't want to **** up NH's groove and get Raz lynched, it gives us a lot of information to work with, which is funny 'cause he's inactive hurhur.

you think I'm scum with July? I recall you read us as TvT initially.

 

[No Hetero]

*Kary posts a bunch of ******** *****

Prepare your anus.

 

[No Hetero]

1. Uh, I thought you just wanted to lynch Raz toDay?


2. But you weren't trying to lynch me Day 2?
And you didn't target Seph toDay just to avoid a modvote?

on an unrelated note, you're either plain not reading what i post, or actively trying to strawman me. I don't like whichever it is.

1. I explicitly stated that this was the marshy half.

2. Here's the deal: we've had all game to lynch whoever with this dumb waller post restriction. We figured that, instead of obnoxiously placing our individual wincon above Town's goal of lynching scum like half of this ****ing game does, that we would use it on someone we could see as scum but were iffy on in order to directly interact with them and force them to answer Nabe's questions (cuz i dont do **** other than tell people to lynch *****es not gonna lie) and go from there. The thing with you is that we were pretty sure there was at least one scum between you/July, and I wanted July but think Nabe had preferred you. So we said **** it and used it on you but went July instead cuz she was playing like scum. Then after that flip, we went Hando and fulfilled it. We only have to lynch our target ONCE, so it's not like we're trying to lynch Seph or any **** like that. Part of the reason we chose him was cuz he was active and we hoped that'd we get some decent back-and-forth with him.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

you need to avoid targetting lurkers or you may end with a permanent modvote on your slot that makes you a liability endgame

...

do you like that your ability basically gives you a posting restriction? is it affecting your play?

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

1. Too early to tell
Trying to get everyone own up to their wall posts would not only be impractical, it would be a bad idea.
Clearly the N0 posts aren't null; whether or not the posts are deceiving we don't know yet, but they definitely aren't null.
What is your read on WatchtheThrone right now?
Vote: Kary
Kary, why did you vote for Kantrip in your #133 and then again in your #157? Also what is your read on WatchtheThrone so far?
I've never seen Seph this active before, but I like it so far.

July's first post.
First post.

And she's already getting on kary for what was a null-ish tell IIRC my opinion on Kary's wall thing at the time (AFAIK the rest of the game was semi devided on it being dummy vs scummy ).

Brings up WtT already and is asking someone she is voting so seems to be trying to connect Kary to WtT. Uses Kary's own posts regarding WtT to try to tunnel deeper in to Kary.

Her thing with the wall makes me think she crumbed something scummy , regretting not getting her to claim wall posts prior to lynch , thinking this would be a good way to handle people pre lynching them.

Early buddy on Seph reads more as scum trying to get in comfy with more powerful slots.

It'd be bad? What do townies have to hide? Rolecrumbs N0? Meh.
I'm not pushing for everyone to own up... but I can't see scum dropping tells in their wall posts, and I can't see townies doing much as they've little info to go on. Feels like most of them are going to be null, sorry.
Don't have one.
Because it's RVS and I can. Oh, and still don't have one.
Nice buddying
July scum, good game.

Kary's response.
Calls July scum based on what apppears to be buddying + slight omgus possibly by kary ?.

Good rebuttal on the wall thing however.

Meh? Are you saying you don't care if you out rolecrumbs from N0, or is it a meh as in you don't think it's likely people rolecrumbed N0?
But you seem to be forgetting that everyone had already gotten their role pm by the time they made the wall posts...they had their individual wincons, their abilities, and all that stuff that they could hint at or whatever on the wall. I think that some townies might have used the anonymity of the wall to their own advantage and you don't seem concerned with that, and while you say you aren't pushing for everyone to own up, it seemed like you were until you got backlash about it.
Didn't notice I asked about your read on watchthethrone twice...oh well. I thought you would have a read on them pretty quickly because in your #137 you have this weird question to them:
Why would they push you because they "see you as a threat"? That only makes sense if you guys aren't of the same alignment.
Lol kk, you didn't even ask what I liked about No Hetero. Is it their reads? Is it their flamboyance? It's quite a bit of both. I enjoy their posting style immensely, but I really like them because their #145 was short and sweet but already showed signs of scumhunting on you, Soup and JTB and asked useful questions they can follow up on.
Sorry dear, but I don't think I'll have enough time, I quite a busy beaver these days, I've been serving the lattes instead of drinking them from about 3-11 every day so my play here is going to have to be short, sweet, and to the point. I did stop to take a sip of Kary's latte though, and it left a bitter taste in my mouth. It tasted like false bravado, silly questions, and a lack of forethought or town intent when it comes to the wall. His interactions with Kantrip and WatchtheThrone are also offputting, his first couple posts make made me think that his individual wincon was to poison Kantrip's latte or something. I think you should look into him a little bit more hon because I'm not seeing scum Soup as strongly as I'm seeing scum Kary.
Fair enough, probably watchthethrone. Can you explain the purpose to it now please?
I'll read the Soup v. Kantrip in the morning because it looks like a pain to read now.

Going in order of the post with my thoughts:

Intially paints Karys handling of the wall as scummy moreso than dummy, her wall thing agains suggest she put something revealing in her wall posts.

Points out Kary's odd alignment question which read to me (as i believe i stated ) that he had knowledge of people's alignments.

Mentions Kary / WtT alignment superfluously (obviously if Kary asks such a question , it only makes sense if he believes (Kary) that they are not of the same alignment (possible early July slip about her knowledge of the alignments.

Clings to NH on shotty reasoning, another example of early buddying , Kary's call of buddying seems more accurate now.

Shoots down Karys interactions with other slots based on her scum read , reads as scum painting so people don`t take Kary`s suspicion on slots as legitimate, undermines Kary and doesn`t attempt to work with Kary in the same way she did with NH and Seph.

Soup v. Kantrip was actually quite anticlimactic once I read through it. Not much substance, I liked this post from Soup:
But that was the only thing that stood out to me as a good point. So I liked Soup slightly more than Kantrip coming out of it but it didn't do anything groundbreaking for me in terms of reads.
That's true, you didn't outright say that. It's the intent that I get from you, that you were trying to make owning up to the wall posts an option even though there were clearly rolecrumbs there and ways that town can and probably have or will use the anonymity of the wall to their benefit.
You seem to write this off BUT:
That's two questions addressed to people as if you know their alignment/know that their alignment is different than yours :-/
Not going to argue over whether it's buddying or not because it's a stupid conversation that will digress into "uh huh" and "nuh uh". Why am I supposed mention Seph with this exactly?
Just fyi that quote was from me, not Kary, and kk.
my only question is what changed from this post, to here:
I like Seph better so far, he's trying to take charge and lead town and I like that coming from him. I also like that he's being very open/transparent with his thoughts, it feels genuine to me. Raziek is null, don't remember him doing much yet toDay.
Not sure if serious
You admit that you said it for reaction testing, which makes the whole point of saying it, being to get genuine reactions from people, completely irrelevant. You could also be traitor and be telling the truth, although I do tend to lean towards the philosophy that this kind of thing is too dumb to be legit.
I dislike Kary and Kantrip both but I only have one vote ;-;
Staying with Kary for now on the presumption that Kantrip is just being dumb.

Going in order of this post again:

-Buddies popular Kantrip dislike , buddies Soup who at that time IIRC was defending July.
-Italics : Says there were rolecrumbs in the wall, another instance of July apparently having something worth hiding in the wall.
-Underlined : Gets snippey about who she mentions and where
-Down plays Kantrip as dumb, reads as scum trying to **** on slots to create doubt.
-Bolded: More buddying
-Bolded & Italicised : Uses popular null Raz read to avoid commenting on him.

Oh wells, didn't take me long to reread anyways:
I agree with WTT a lot more than I do with Kary over the wall and how to approach it. They approached the wall with what I see as a much more town intent than Kary did and looked for information to draw from it that could help town while also trying to maintain the benefits to town of anonymity.
Agree with the bolded. Would be interested in seeing their updated read on Soup and more on their reads on Hando and Raz though because I don't remember either player doing very much.
Once again, I agree with their reads on Kary/Seph. So far I like their reads and what intent I see from them wrt the wall. Want to see more from them which seems to be coming soon, but right now they're leaning town for me. Why do you have a scum read on them?

- Uses her old dislike of the wall thing from Kary to (give what appears like ) a town read on WtT. Mentions liking WtT more on their handling , uses this to re-affirm Kary hatred.

-More buddying, buddies WtT Hando hate by, uses Hando as null to set up possible ML`s.
Reads more like leaving slots July knows is town open / null to set up ML`s later.

-Again buddies NH because they happen to share Kary scum, reads like July trying to soft influence NH to move to Kary.

-

I told you my play this game would be quick and rough. I don't see what you dislike about WtT so badly. I also liked their #306, especially their reads on Handorin and (obviously) Kary. Nabe, talk to me about this post and why your hydra dislikes WtT so much?
No, Kary is scummy and everyone has him as so towny and I want an explanation for it. His reasoning is ****ty, his questions either accomplish nothing OR they infer that he knows peoples alignments such as WtT and FML, and no one gives a **** about it. **** that bull****, I am not in the mood to sit around and let Kary scum waltz to victory so I'm going to keep yelling Kary scum until town gets their heads out of their ***** or until I'm lynched and people realize I'm town and Kary is the one who should die in a fire.
Agreed on Kantrip.
But Marshy, when in the hell did you even have your attention on raziek -_- I think you asked me about him but you sure as hell weren't pushing him because you were pushing me instead. Raziek hasn't done anything and he can die in a fire with Kary as far as I care but I want Kary first.
No, wtf are you saying? We are following Seph's plan which is not to oblige by Kantrip's wincon, and da fuq are you saying that he's obvtown; he could be indy, or he could still be mafia traitor messing with town's head. There is something about his claim that doesn't line up. Not that it matters because he's getting vigged toNight anyways. Since you are scum though, keep on obliging him because I'm sure that works to your wincon, especially if he really is mafia traitor.
It's lazy? Why exactly did you choose this post out of the series of posts which FML made there talking about Kantrip and their current reads. They were asking about an updated read from Seph on Kantrip after all his claim shenanigans, and Speh is generally considered town so asking him for advice on where to look now doesn't strike me as odd, not seeing ill-intent in this post either.

Kary: Scum, goddamn people.
Kantrip: I don't care how much of his role is true and what's not, he needs vigged toNight.
Seph: Town, like his leadership role and he's not running town into the ground like other people are attempting to do.
WtT: Leaning town, not understanding why everyone is so up in arms about WtT, I'm not seeing scum intent from this slot; the worst thing I've seen from them so far is they've been weak on their pushes.
No Hetero: Town, despite being blind as **** when it comes to Kary.
Raziek: Scummy, can die in a fire.
Handorin: All I remember from him is a list of vague reads, null-scummy.
Inferno: Town, despite Seph's evidence post Inferno's catch on the Kantrip thing was good and I think he's been really focused on helping town; it all reads very genuine to me.
Macman: Null, don't remember anything from him.
Soup: Lean town, not understanding the backlash against him at all and it obviously helps that he's being logical when it comes to reading me.
JTB: O_o didn't know he was in this game

In Order:

- Tries to dissuade NH on WtT , buddies again in that situation.
- Underlined : Kary aggro. The whole I`m town and Kary can die as fire feels like scum July reaching to try ands achieve her `assigned win-con ` (can easily see her making this up for wifom reasons). Does this same thing later screaming about her towniness and Kary needing to die. Feels off , initial reason why I (Rake) thought bus. July screaming like this as scum about one possible town slot (assigned win-con or not ) feels forced / illegitimate / too aggro / severely backs off doing it and (possibly) makes up fake win-con for her scummy activity. Definitely support outing win-cons seeing as i feel like July made up the get Kry lynched thing to cover up a (possibly ) scummier win-con.

*puts down raz pitchforK*
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
?????????????????????????

Best find this game possibly ?

Posts like this:
Don't make me think you are looking at Kary scum as an actual possibility, and that vote on him was weak and you know it. Yet I don't know what in the hell Kary has done that makes him look so townie to you, other than the fact that he's not me.
Have I said that you were ******** for suggesting I'm scum? No. I just want you to consider Kary scum.
And why isn't it up to you? No one's stopping you, you could push him harder if you wanted to. I may be toDay's #1 scumpick but at least I'm going to push my scumpick until the end goddammit so that if I'm lynched Kary can get lynched toMorrow on my town flip.
Not a stupid question, it's one I'd be happy to answer:

-Your attitude towards the wall was an immediate red flag; you don't think that townies could rolecrumb on the wall or could plan to use the anonymity to their advantage, not seeing the uses of the wall from a town pov
-Your case on me has been reachy as hell, especially what you call me "buddying"; town and scum can buddy btw (ex: J), but you pull every interaction I have with anyone that isn't calling them scum "buddying"
-Your questions go nowhere; so far they have either been 1) questions asked for the sake of asking questions, with no clear benefits or information you could gather from them, or 2) shallow, as in you reveal your intent behind them right away which leads to the questions, once again, accomplishing nothing
-There were also those questions to WtT and FML which hinted that you knew their alignment/knew they were a different alignment from you which I pointed out before
-Why so touchy about people calling you scum:
It's not like there's a wagon taking off on you and most of the people who have called you scum or possible scum at any point in this game are scum reads of yours. You're fine dealing out suspicions but you don't handle them very well. You can't just shut down legitimate suspicions on you with a stfu -_-

I just don't believe that he could be town, unlynchable, and forced to die to win with town; if he has to die, I believe it's much more likely he has to "die" or get nked by scum to join their side rather than die to win with town, thus I think him being mafia traitor could have been the truth that he's working against now. If that's the case, there has to be something to balance that role, which would be a vig, so that town could kill him before mafia could recruit him.

But this was wedged in between like 8 other posts by FML, and you act like he's not allowed to even address Seph or ask him a question because he's largely considered town...also I was saying the post itself was lazy, not their entire play, but I don't see the scum intent behind it you are seeing. Also, for reals, stop calling every interaction buddying ><

Inactive means they can't be scum? Also my reads are set in stone and I totally couldn't change them, expand on them as more people post, or even use the connections from a Kary lynch to help scumhunt more efficiently toMorrow? Good to know.

...I do expect Ryker to go HAM instead of coast, and I don't find Hando's first post that objectionable. Goddammit I guess I'll read WtT again.


I remember his posts that he had being fencesitty. I remember him saying there was nothing to comment on in the beginning of the game, and since then he's just not commented or made only vague, "I need to look into..." or "I'm not sure what to think of..." comments about current events, without ever digging into anything or giving scum reads or anything useful in general.

In Order:

First Italics : Un-needed anger after buddying fails to garner interest in Kary lynch.
Reads as scum lash out.

First Underlined : Mentioned this before , another instance of July screaming about her town flip and having to go Kary.
Second time I (Rake ) have felt it odd (see thoughts on first instance of this ).
Could be possibly pushing ML. Slightly supports Kary win-con claim (could have played that way to claim that win-con) Wifomy I know but again, see thoughts on first instance.

Case On Kary: Reachy points . more support of assigned win con ?

Kantrip Stuff: Easy way of saying nothing too too specific about Kantrip.
Centers mainly around outguessing the mod.
Could be sum keeping eyes open to possible recruitment of Kantrip slot.

Thing On my Slot :

More buddying ?
Says nothing to specific.
Reads as more ML set up for future FML hate.

-Bolded: Not sure if serious...

-Italics Part 2: Quickly opens up to WtT hate, possible early bus.
More supported because before as shown July seemed to have WtT`s back.
First read suggests that July wants to be seen as being open with her reads when before she didnt want to see WtT as scum.

-Bolded Part 2:
Easy jump on Raz.
Still feel like Raz may have been the easiest target.
Raz points are definitely more pile on type IMO.

btw macman of i had to call the game right now scumteam would be like

july/raziek/throne

a little fml and soup in there as well

Why can`t it be throne toDay, Raz tomMorow ?

(raz > throne > july) > soup > kary > fml

() = lynchpool

I still like this lynch pool by Mac

like WTT isn't even that solid town to me, he's just there and he's got something going for him in hando, he's putting no effort towards anything else and he's gonna cling to hando until he's dead

Lol at the accuracy of this.

Spoiler

tl;dr read anything in this game and soup is noncomittal as ****. raz can stay if he follows me. Soup is the goddamn play. FML is a good backup. WTT is icky because of his last post. Handorin/FML are good backup lynches.

Whatever happened to this icky you felt on WtT, Seph ?

I don't know July. She's been off my agenda because I want Kary. Either wait for me to read the game or point out why she's being lynched. She's null to me.

Readlist when I talk to Kevin.

Off agenda = already knows alignment / is ready to buss her being the days lynch. ?
Null seems a bit noncommital but is open. Reads on first go as non-commital in case July lynch moves.

I think he's just dumb.

Voting July in next post because I can't reach te bold button past the quote on my iPod.

July is a crapshoot. If she flips scum, don't go ****ing diving at Kary, FML. If you find the need to do so and NH agrees with you, then lunch him with extreme prejudice.

Suddenly decides to Vote July ?

Vote July.

Why was this ?
(Honestly dont remember what happened between the quotes I picked out)

Raz is null. Forgot he existed. FML is town because I see how they're thinking. They aren't pulling lunches out of their ***. The Kary/July bull**** is wrong, but you can see where the idea came from. I make sense with their hard on for July scum because I've spent the entire game not caring about the slot when other people wanted it lynched.
It's the same reason I think NH is town. I believe I saw an evolving read on our slot when previously, they were scaring the **** out of me because I thought they were just fishing for a lynch.

In Order:

-Refuses to acknowledge my reasoning on Karyscum even though they wanted Kary.
Made me confused as to in what sense i could be wrong.
- Admits hes been ignoring July.
Not seeing Pro-town intent behind ignoring a slot unless aware of that slots alignment.

Of WTT/Seph/NH?

.... probably WTT, but I don't have any of those three any worse than nullish at the moment.

Throne toDay ?
Reads.
Claim.

That order please.

The individual wincon I received was that I must be a part of a successful lynch on Kary by the end of D3. I don't know why they chose Kary, whether they thought that it would be an easy lynch, or it has something to do with someone else's individual wincon or they have some information on Kary, but it is what it is and I wanted to get it done yesterDay and hopefully gain some information from Kary's flip as to who sent me the wincon and why.

Not buying the wall writing about Hando; it seems very convenient with the wall writing yesterDay about being lucky to have drawn cop, scum would post fake results to mess with town and get an easy Hando lynch toDay.

Now that that's out and you know why the **** I need a Kary lynch, toDay I want to look more at Watch the Throne.

I didn't mind WTT's first couple posts despite being a lot of bravado and not much action because honestly I expect bravado from that slot, but they have continued to make statements and throw out accusations without pushing anything; they weren't strongly on any of the suspects yesterDay and really just let the lynch go throw without any strong agreement or dissent with it.

Vote: Watch The Throne

Finally gets around to voting WtT with her impending lynch.
Reads as bus off things like :

`but they have continued to make statements and throw out accusations without pushing anything `

and :

`they weren't strongly on any of the suspects yesterDay and really just let the lynch go throw without any strong agreement or dissent with it. `

Before IIRC she supported WtT and their lynch pool.
Also supported their push on Hando IIRC.

More to come later

 

[No Hetero]

1. Look at your summary if Kary's posts in green. You point out that he's retreading the same ground over and over when he clearly states, in a post that you copied and pasted and cut up, what his intentions were. What was your response? You restate your reads instead of explaining them. 2. That's been a problem I've had with you throughout this entire ****ing game. You are pushing and shoving. You are not establishing any sort of path for what to do after your push goes through and, when challenged, are not telling me why. You keep each and every player at arm's length unless they ride your **** with the exception of Seph, which is convienent because he could probably turn enough sheep to get you lynched.

3. Are you seriously trying to insinuate that I am blind using Mario Party II as an example? For those of you who weren't there, we lost that game to a scum team of J, Kevin, and July because I did not nail July. Marshy did, I chose wrong between her and inactive as **** town Raz. This was the game where I shot EE at the start of the game for very little reason, but in the end, Marshy choked himself to death trying to suck both Kevin's and J's **** at the same time because Kevin was being normal cool bro Kevin and J did literally nothing but pander to Marshy. He got July, who was the one to trip me, but fought me to the death (literally as we lynched him) over the lives of J and Kevin, ESPECIALLY sycofant J. Instead, he wanted to lynch my biggest town read, WL.

4. You want to smear me, but **** that ****. Get your head out of your *** and play mafia. That or get out, because I am not playing follow the leader with you.

Ok, so, you are either intentionally pushing my buttons or I am completely wrong in my estimate of your intelligence. What are you angling for?

1. I'll let Nabe do this, he cares way more about Kary and has done the bulk of our slots interactions with him.

2. Thank you for explaining my playstyle . As for not "establishing a clear path after your push goes through" well, no ****. I'm not interested in saying, "go X if Y flips town, if scum, hit Z". Guess who does that ****? You. That is YOUR shtick, not mine, so don't ****ing come at me like it's worth mention for not Thinking Like Ryker. As for keeping people at arms length unless they ride my ****, ***** please. No one has ridden my **** this game. The closest thing I've had to townbros were Macman and Inferno and even then the former didn't sheep me on July did D1 and inferno actually asked me to explain my reasoning for July D1. I've had Seph as Town all game hence my friendliness with him.

3. Yes, I am saying that you are blind and using Mario Party 2 as an example. Remember when you ignored July there for sucking your ****? Remember when you did that in this game? That's the point I'm trying to make; get on Rykers good side and you live. The rest of this part of the post has nothing to do with this point.

4. "play mafia" = "play how i tell you to play"

"work with me" = "be my *****"

**** that ****.

5. You made some commet about not wanting to give any direction for fear of giving scum a map to the end game they want to create. You know what? How about you give town a map to the end game YOU want to take, complete with explanation as to why you want to go that route? 6. Right now, I have ZERO reason to believe you are aiming to do anything more than win the game off of a LyLo/MyLo that you yourself admit is right around the corner. If it comes up with such ****ty ****ing direction, then you're looking at lynch options in JTB, Kary, DH (who I would love to hear you talk about), and myself. All if these are options you've kept on the table. The only ones you've eliminated are FML in your pocket and Seph who you could never lynch in a million years (and who was probably targeted for the night kill).

6. Let's pare down this list because I have the same issue, but you're doing your goddamn best to stop me from further limiting the options by blocking me at every turn. You won't cooperate, you smear me in the day, you're calling for the lynch in this horrendous situation when we have not mass claimed and have a clear from Hando with a potential second clear from a doc.

Get your **** off the court. My posts do contain muscle, but they do not lack substance unless they are posts saying that I am going to tall with Kevin, which I have always followed up on.

5. Or how about I don't do the opposite of what I want to do simply cuz Throne says so.

6. Don't lynch you.
Don't lynch Kary.
Don't lynch Seph.
Don't lynch Dark Horse.
Don't lynch FML.
Don't lynch JTB.

Lynch Raz. Narrow enough?

As for massclaim, the only part I give a **** about is the clear, and it won't be Raziek. That said, a lynch won't even happen before he claims the innocent cuz I am literally the only person who is voting anyone, for whatever gorfawful reason.

7. if the clear is NH then i'd still be feelin wtT
but
orbo likes wtT more right now then NH

7. What do you mean by "feelin" here? Orbo says he likes Throne, but Rake wants Throne, but both halves want Throne or some ****? Can you clear this up? This confuses me. Yo, does your wincon involve lynching Throne toDay or some ****? I'm not getting this.

8. NH isn't scummy for pushing me. He's scummy for NOT pushing me. Read the entire game. He spends it bouncing back and forth and back and forth in the way he treats this slot. It's ****ing infuriating. He acts like he wants to work with us and then he tells everyone that half the slot is blind (and this is after Marshy has pointed out that he thinks there's potential for him and I to work together because we both see things the other misses). 9. He spends the entire game trying to discredit us without concerning himself with what we're saying. Look at how he reacted to our original vote on Hando and subsequent push. He, and I'm paraphrasing, says that we're ******** for thinking Hando needs to go and then later says that Hando would clear up a bunch of things, but he's just "not feeling it." All the while, he doesn't address what we've actually said.

10. Raz is not still town to me. Raz is null. I could go Raz if I was given a decent reason, as I've been preaching this entire phase, but I've not been given one. I do not think that such a reason exists. If you want to lynch dead weight, then I would lynch JTB. My reason is that I think Raz's explosion was a town tell. NH says that it was not a town tell, but that simply resets the situation to a neutral position. He hasn't given me a reason why JTB is town or why Raz is scum (he even acknowledges the possibility of inactive TownRaz that we've both seen before). He hasn't so much as mentioned JTB's name when talking about lynches. He hasn't brought up Dark Horse either except to say that it's not MyLo (no elaboration on what the read actually is or confirmation that he would lynch DH in MyLo, only a comment directed at my ultimatum of making sure he goes no further than MyLo). When asked to expand on his reads, he takes off his shoe and starts trying to beat the questioner over the head.

8. **** working with you, too much effort. Hand me scum on a silver platter. I thought I could get that with Hando after looking at his treatment of July but was wrong. A lot of this "is he working with me or not?" thing comes from this friction. I say you are blind to Raziek specifically, not anyone else who could be scum.

9. I called you guys ******** for the initial D1 push on Hando cuz it was ********. Your reason was, "your readslist does nothing but appease the power players by calling them Town"...what the ****? Almost EVERYONE had me/Seph as Town D1, and me/Macman were your only haters that phase (I say this offhand), so it's like Hando is scum for having reads that most people agree with. Big ****ing whoop, that scumtell sucked ***. We've explained the switch on Hando after the July flip and you YOURSELF agreed with it.

10. I've actually considered going back and pulling out why Raz is scum, but I think it'd just be a waste of ****ing time. Me and Macman acquired a scumread on Raz after like 5 posts in the game; that's hardly enough ammo to make a compelling case. People want a big post with all these nice-looking reasons and "WOW SO LOGICAL!!" and quotes. Razs play doesn't allow that. I'll probably end up doing it anyway, but not now. Offhand, I remember thinking Raz was scummy as all **** in the beginning of the game and even breadcrumbed this suspicion by saying "I wonder if Macman will vote who I want to shoot" and acquiring a townread on him for being the only person to pick up on Razs scummy as **** early play.

I don't need to give a reason for JTB being Town for Raz deserving to die. That is you establishing Raz/JTB/DHorse as this ****hole of inactivity and I'm just pulling Raz out of my ***; I'm not, and the fact that a confirmed innocent in Macman pursued the same target supports this.

Seph why would we talk about indies when we probably have 2 of Julys scumbuddies running around? Whatever. Nabe can do this if he wants, but I don't give a **** about indies right now. Also, call it what you want, but my bludgeoning of peoples faces hardbody comes as a result of wanting a deadRaz and getting pissed when people distract from this and offer alternate lynches that I don't give a **** about. Think D1 Paper Mario fighting with Town over Bardull. This Town has the attention span of ants, hence my refusal to compromise. I did that with Soup and Hando. I'm ****ing done with that bull****. Hardbody tunnel + **** everyone elses opinion time son !

 

[#HBC | Kary]

@RAKE

STOP GETTING YOURSELF MODVOTES

CAPICHE?

@FML; what even is the point of you #1576 ? Did someone ask you for a blow-by-blow of July's play? If you've come to some kind of conclusions i'd love to hear them instead.

@Hando: who do you want to lynch toDay? Is Raz scum?

 

[No Hetero]

let's keep it going.

FML:
Is that post fresh from a new reread, or built on your existing notes?

I'm sure you already have it in mind not to vote 'til Hando posts.

 

[Handorin]

I've been pretty busy, so I haven't read a lot, but...

FML is my clear if I'm interpreting my role PM and one of his posts where he mentions his wincon correctly.

I'm also still an advocate for a Raz lynch.

 

[No Hetero]

going

Kary:
"do you like that your ability basically gives you a posting restriction? is it affecting your play?"

I'd rather we didn't have a posting restriction, but naturally you have to play to what you're given. I've had a few in my career, always enjoyed them because there's something fun about finding ways to be understood, to play around them, to play to them in fun ways.

I like to post ISO-cases with lots of quotes and analyze specific statements. This game's restriction allows for that, which is nice. It doesn't affect what we can post, so much as affecting how we're understood by others when we're not talking to our target. So I've tried to make my posts clear and thorough without quotes, which hasn't gone too badly with most slots.

Questions answered, or no?

 

[No Hetero]

going

Hando:

Could you be more specific? Do you have a wincon left to hit? And is there some restriction to when and how you can use your ability?

 

[FullMetalLynch]

[COLLAPSE="Rakes quote"]

July's first post.
First post.

And she's already getting on kary for what was a null-ish tell IIRC my opinion on Kary's wall thing at the time (AFAIK the rest of the game was semi devided on it being dummy vs scummy ).

Brings up WtT already and is asking someone she is voting so seems to be trying to connect Kary to WtT. Uses Kary's own posts regarding WtT to try to tunnel deeper in to Kary.

Her thing with the wall makes me think she crumbed something scummy , regretting not getting her to claim wall posts prior to lynch , thinking this would be a good way to handle people pre lynching them.

Early buddy on Seph reads more as scum trying to get in comfy with more powerful slots.






Kary's response.
Calls July scum based on what apppears to be buddying + slight omgus possibly by kary ?.

Good rebuttal on the wall thing however.



Going in order of the post with my thoughts:

Intially paints Karys handling of the wall as scummy moreso than dummy, her wall thing agains suggest she put something revealing in her wall posts.

Points out Kary's odd alignment question which read to me (as i believe i stated ) that he had knowledge of people's alignments.

Mentions Kary / WtT alignment superfluously (obviously if Kary asks such a question , it only makes sense if he believes (Kary) that they are not of the same alignment (possible early July slip about her knowledge of the alignments.

Clings to NH on shotty reasoning, another example of early buddying , Kary's call of buddying seems more accurate now.

Shoots down Karys interactions with other slots based on her scum read , reads as scum painting so people don`t take Kary`s suspicion on slots as legitimate, undermines Kary and doesn`t attempt to work with Kary in the same way she did with NH and Seph.






Going in order of this post again:

-Buddies popular Kantrip dislike , buddies Soup who at that time IIRC was defending July.
-Italics : Says there were rolecrumbs in the wall, another instance of July apparently having something worth hiding in the wall.
-Underlined : Gets snippey about who she mentions and where
-Down plays Kantrip as dumb, reads as scum trying to **** on slots to create doubt.
-Bolded: More buddying
-Bolded & Italicised : Uses popular null Raz read to avoid commenting on him.





- Uses her old dislike of the wall thing from Kary to (give what appears like ) a town read on WtT. Mentions liking WtT more on their handling , uses this to re-affirm Kary hatred.

-More buddying, buddies WtT Hando hate by, uses Hando as null to set up possible ML`s.
Reads more like leaving slots July knows is town open / null to set up ML`s later.

-Again buddies NH because they happen to share Kary scum, reads like July trying to soft influence NH to move to Kary.

-



In Order:

- Tries to dissuade NH on WtT , buddies again in that situation.
- Underlined : Kary aggro. The whole I`m town and Kary can die as fire feels like scum July reaching to try ands achieve her `assigned win-con ` (can easily see her making this up for wifom reasons). Does this same thing later screaming about her towniness and Kary needing to die. Feels off , initial reason why I (Rake) thought bus. July screaming like this as scum about one possible town slot (assigned win-con or not ) feels forced / illegitimate / too aggro / severely backs off doing it and (possibly) makes up fake win-con for her scummy activity. Definitely support outing win-cons seeing as i feel like July made up the get Kry lynched thing to cover up a (possibly ) scummier win-con.



Best find this game possibly ?



In Order:

First Italics : Un-needed anger after buddying fails to garner interest in Kary lynch.
Reads as scum lash out.

First Underlined : Mentioned this before , another instance of July screaming about her town flip and having to go Kary.
Second time I (Rake ) have felt it odd (see thoughts on first instance of this ).
Could be possibly pushing ML. Slightly supports Kary win-con claim (could have played that way to claim that win-con) Wifomy I know but again, see thoughts on first instance.

Case On Kary: Reachy points . more support of assigned win con ?

Kantrip Stuff: Easy way of saying nothing too too specific about Kantrip.
Centers mainly around outguessing the mod.
Could be sum keeping eyes open to possible recruitment of Kantrip slot.

Thing On my Slot :

More buddying ?
Says nothing to specific.
Reads as more ML set up for future FML hate.

-Bolded: Not sure if serious...

-Italics Part 2: Quickly opens up to WtT hate, possible early bus.
More supported because before as shown July seemed to have WtT`s back.
First read suggests that July wants to be seen as being open with her reads when before she didnt want to see WtT as scum.

-Bolded Part 2:
Easy jump on Raz.
Still feel like Raz may have been the easiest target.
Raz points are definitely more pile on type IMO.



Why can`t it be throne toDay, Raz tomMorow ?



I still like this lynch pool by Mac



Lol at the accuracy of this.



Whatever happened to this icky you felt on WtT, Seph ?



Off agenda = already knows alignment / is ready to buss her being the days lynch. ?
Null seems a bit noncommital but is open. Reads on first go as non-commital in case July lynch moves.



Suddenly decides to Vote July ?



Why was this ?
(Honestly dont remember what happened between the quotes I picked out)



In Order:

-Refuses to acknowledge my reasoning on Karyscum even though they wanted Kary.
Made me confused as to in what sense i could be wrong.
- Admits hes been ignoring July.
Not seeing Pro-town intent behind ignoring a slot unless aware of that slots alignment.





Throne toDay ?
Reads.
Claim.

That order please.




Finally gets around to voting WtT with her impending lynch.
Reads as bus off things like :

`but they have continued to make statements and throw out accusations without pushing anything `

and :

`they weren't strongly on any of the suspects yesterDay and really just let the lynch go throw without any strong agreement or dissent with it. `

Before IIRC she supported WtT and their lynch pool.
Also supported their push on Hando IIRC.

More to come later

[/COLLAPSE]Goddamnit rake you're slaughtering us.

 

[Raziek]

I'm aware my commitment level has been inexcusably low. There are various life johns for this, but I'll spare you.

10. I've actually considered going back and pulling out why Raz is scum, but I think it'd just be a waste of ****ing time. Me and Macman acquired a scumread on Raz after like 5 posts in the game; that's hardly enough ammo to make a compelling case. People want a big post with all these nice-looking reasons and "WOW SO LOGICAL!!" and quotes. Razs play doesn't allow that. I'll probably end up doing it anyway, but not now. Offhand, I remember thinking Raz was scummy as all **** in the beginning of the game and even breadcrumbed this suspicion by saying "I wonder if Macman will vote who I want to shoot" and acquiring a townread on him for being the only person to pick up on Razs scummy as **** early play.

I'm not claiming until you substantiate the blustering you've been doing about me all game.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

Sorry Orbo, meant to hydra quote but fell asleep.
Also i quoted all the other stuff so thats like max 1 mod vote.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

@RAKE

STOP GETTING YOURSELF MODVOTES

CAPICHE?

@FML; what even is the point of you #1576 ? Did someone ask you for a blow-by-blow of July's play? If you've come to some kind of conclusions i'd love to hear them instead.

@Hando: who do you want to lynch toDay? Is Raz scum?

Yeah i was working up to my July / WtT buddy case.
Only got like half through it too.
Sad days.

7. What do you mean by "feelin" here? Orbo says he likes Throne, but Rake wants Throne, but both halves want Throne or some ****? Can you clear this up? This confuses me. Yo, does your wincon involve lynching Throne toDay or some ****? I'm not getting this.

Orbo said in our QT that between you and WtT of the recent posts he liked wtT more.
he still dislikes WtT that i can tell.

Sorry for the confusion.

Orbo can clear it up fully.

FML:
Is that post fresh from a new reread, or built on your existing notes?

I'm sure you already have it in mind not to vote 'til Hando posts.

My notes from a long *** time ago, like D2.
Plus some new stuff i added on while getting it up and re-noticing things.
(i.e I re-read the quotes and my points as i was putting it up and noticed more stuff.

 

[FullMetalLynch]

I've been pretty busy, so I haven't read a lot, but...

FML is my clear if I'm interpreting my role PM and one of his posts where he mentions his wincon correctly.

I'm also still an advocate for a Raz lynch.

Well I'll say it again for all our sakes then.

My individual win-con is to convince a player to vote for a player of my choosing. And have the player i choose be that days lynch.
Both me and that person must be in on the lynch when the hammer goes down.
But that person can't have already be voting that player (i.e it has to be someone not originally voting that person)

So for example:

I convince A to vote B with me (C) . A cannot have been on before I (C) was on the lynch of B. If B ends up being that days lynch, with both me (C) and the other player (A) in on the lynch , I have achieved my individual win con.


Hope this helps / clears that up Hando.

 

[WatchTheThrone]

KevinM head basically going to be playing exclusively for a little while.

@NH specifically Nabe.. Are you confident enough in Raz scum that you would give JTB the free pass that he has gotten for all three other Days?

 

[Handorin]

Well I'll say it again for all our sakes then.

My individual win-con is to convince a player to vote for a player of my choosing. And have the player i choose be that days lynch.
Both me and that person must be in on the lynch when the hammer goes down.
But that person can't have already be voting that player (i.e it has to be someone not originally voting that person)

So for example:

I convince A to vote B with me (C) . A cannot have been on before I (C) was on the lynch of B. If B ends up being that days lynch, with both me (C) and the other player (A) in on the lynch , I have achieved my individual win con.


Hope this helps / clears that up Hando.

This is what my wincon is, except in my case I must be dead. Since I didn't PM it correctly last Night, I can't achieve it today. It'll have to wait.

 

[Raziek]

Wait wait wait.

JTB is still in this game, and NH wants ME dead?

 

[No Hetero]

@NH specifically Nabe.. Are you confident enough in Raz scum that you would give JTB the free pass that he has gotten for all three other Days?

Throne

Using this logic, lynching anyone other than JTB is giving him a free pass. That's silly.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

This is what my wincon is, except in my case I must be dead. Since I didn't PM it correctly last Night, I can't achieve it today. It'll have to wait.

But FML is clear, correct?

Wait wait wait.

JTB is still in this game, and NH wants ME dead?

is this a surprise? is JTB scummier than you are?

@NH specifically Nabe.. Are you confident enough in Raz scum that you would give JTB the free pass that he has gotten for all three other Days?

Using this logic, lynching anyone other than JTB is giving him a free pass. That's silly.

No, don't be a derp. You ignoring JTB to lynch Raz suggests you are confident enough in Raz scum that you don't even need to interact with JTB.

You're not giving him a free pass because you're letting him live, you're giving him a pass because (as you've said) you don't care about lynching his slot or even interacting with it- all you care about is lynching Raz.

That either shows some serious confidence in Raz scum, or some reason to believe that JTB is town, and presumably it's the former.

 

[Handorin]

Yes. He is clear. My role PM hinted someone had the same wincon without the dying part

 

[No Hetero]

about ready to start on this game.

JTB is a gamble, Raz isn't. Raz is scum. Look at his posts coming back to the thread. His posts suggest knowledge of the game, or that he's pretending enough knowledge of the game to say, "You want me over JTB?!" But if he knew what was going on, he wouldn't say things like, "Nah NH, I'm not claiming for you", since he would know Seph started the wincon massclaim, and that everyone agrees with it and is taking part. And he would offer something more than base self-preservation posts to the tune of "NH sucks". See, that's part of what's so gross about Raz. Anyone who hits him gets **** on [asking "why would Macman be Town? All he's done is tunnel me!" and the recent behaviors towards us.]

JTB isn't worth the gamble, he's likely Town. JTBScum plays to win, check out OS All-Stars where his entire scumteam [me, Ryker, Dark Horse] died D1 and he kept at it for Days until the games end. His inactivity in this game is full-stop; he's not concerned with how he's doing in the game at all, even though the scumteam is minus a player. He is very likely Town, like ERB where he didn't play until LYLO and Deadpool where he hopped a wagon D1 and coasted until his replacement.

Raz is my scumread, and who needs to be ****ed outta hear.

@Kevin, I thought you guys wanted DH over JTB?

@Raziek/Kary/Throne, the game is waiting on your wincon claims. Seph goes last.

 

[Raziek]

Quote. The ****ing posts. That make me scum. From the start of the game.

The ones that substantiate your scumread.

STOP. DODGING. THIS.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

@Raziek/Kary/Throne, the game is waiting on your wincon claims. Seph goes last.

already said

that claiming people's wincons may be to their detriment


i personally

am ok with raz claiming


but get outta here

with the schizo act

where you need everyone to claim but need Raz dead


if anything, i don't see why

from your point of view

we can't claim wincons tomorrow





given a fml clear

and you being unlynchable

i am willing

if not happy

with rolling a Raz lynch


so why don't

we do that


I mean, JTB should post and all and all et cetera

but Karryu don't give two bits about that right now


clear?

 

[No Hetero]

but

Kary 1480:
"I'm ok with claiming, but give me a minute."

What changed, hon?

No worries on the timing, I know how easily "a minute" can become 122 hours. But when the only three players who haven't claimed in a massclaim yet are also my scumreads, I'm certainly going to ask them to comply.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

die in a fire and **** yourself in the ***

 

[No Hetero]

but

Raz:
"Quote. The ****ing posts. That make me scum. From the start of the game."

Put aside the scumread for a second. You know that I have no reason to think you're town, correct? You've been an invalid since essentially the end of D1, circumstances notwithstanding. (If that's incorrect, let me know why.)

But upon returning to the game now, the only posts you're making are about me, discrediting me and my push, rather than anything resembling town intent.

You haven't said that your play is going to improve.

You haven't given any reads (or mentioned that you have none, which would be understandable).

You haven't committed to (in the future) reading any part of this game, even the current Day phase.

Aside from a brief "sorry for johns", there's been no admission or acknowledgement of having missed several Day phases of this game.

You haven't asked the thread, "what have I missed?"


You have posted exactly three posts, consisting of only the following:

"NH has been blustering about me all game." (You imply you've been reading the game.)
"Wait, NH wants me dead over JTB?!" (You imply you haven't been reading the game.)
"NH, quote the posts that make me scum and STOP DODGING MY QUESTION" (This suggests you haven't been reading the game, since you'd know I'm incapable of quoting you, and also suggests you are going to continue to make these posts in place of content.)

None of this fills me with the burning desire to throw you a rope. All of this reminds me of your slips and inactivity when you were my scumbordinate in Laundry's Pokemaf.

 

[No Hetero]

butt

"die in a fire and **** yourself in the ***"

That's a classy and reasonable response to what I said, cool.