The Wall - Game End.... no one wins?

[No Hetero]

Oh, you can raise my flag any day, big boy.

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**** NOW I CANT JUST SAY ITS NABE MAKING ALL THE MAD HOMO POSTS

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Spoiler

Watch out guys, I'm going to SUBSTANTIATE the Soup wagon.

 

[No Hetero]

Spoiler

Watch out guys, I'm going to SUBSTANTIATE the Soup wagon.

Please do. That way we can get Kary/Macman/Throne to do an alley oop and end this ****ing dayphase because they're being complete ***** *** ****ies with him.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Seeing as I have not carefully looked at a lot of reports, I will start commenting on reports from a while ago.

This being the first one;

Mac town because there's no chance in hell he lets the answer slip by. He or a scum mate answers it before me if he is scum even if he's playing townie puzzle solver in thread.

This lowers suspicions considerably. WatchtheThrone hasn't been suspicious in my eyes, and this solidifies that fact.

On to this;

I don't have a problem with the Raz wagon. He's not here and he's got to be dealt with at some point.

which I am saving as evidence for later.

*ahem*

Yeah..I might drop it, I dunno.

Hahahahaa, Ragnarock, you're so happy to admit that your so called "scum read" isn't even solid! It's also your only scum read, isn't it?
I wish I was sorry, my dear Ragnarock, but this is close to mockery. You are way too afraid to commit, to the point of having me and No Hetero as nulls.

Could you elaborate?

I will do so when it's relevant.

Reading onwards, I stumbled upon this report;

It's one of those situations where I want to follow my gut instead of looking at what people are saying, in hindsight I haven't really scum-read July at all, and I'm almost a bit confused as to why people were, I looked more into her posts and what people were saying and realized a flaw, it's not even about a defense. I'd be willing if it were my only option to go July, I don't have that super town-read I had a couple of pages ago.

Kary is just...I don't know. Kary is acting really weird and I can't really put my finger on how I want to interpret his play, sometimes I want to call him out on useless banter, and sometimes I want to feel like he has some sort of intention, most of the time I lean the other way as I've seen Kary hop progressively to one read to another in about 5 short posts, I don't understand what Kary is doing at all to be frank; null lean scum.

Inferno is another person I haven't really given much of a read, not a lot I can say to like, I could look again and see how his play has been, I just remember it being distinctly shallow.

Which is well within my calculations. Ragnarock is, once again, afraid to commit. This time on three slots which have been very prevalent.

basically seph needs to man the **** up and get along with the hardbody crew and **** up either raz, throne or july,

i know we got myself, no ceilings, inferno, hando ready to go off on *****s. kary needs to get along with the program and soup needs to vote either raz, july, or throne or else i'll get on the soup train

this game is eeeeezzzzzzzzzzzz why r we wastin time

Macman, you are talking out of line. Know your superior. It is you who has to shape up and follow my calculations. It is simple logic, as I am more fit for leading and finding spies than you.

This goes for all citizens of dGames; Join me in each and every step, and good fortune will come over you! Follow me into the sun, and victory awaits! No regrets will fall over you should you follow me!​

I hope you are seeing a pattern by now, because I have. Look with me at this piece of evidence;

Not really, thinking the same pool as raz/jtb iirc, I'd be willing to go that way if it came down to it.

Do I even need to comment? No? Good.

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So, Ragnarock decides to start a saga. Hahaha. Let us look at it;

Not only is this paragraph bad, it's directed towards me. Hando, I thought you were content with me and now you're suddenly on my neck due to big-head marshy and Seph wanting my lynch? I'm not even getting the same LoM vibe from you, this post is terrible.

The first report is completely out of the left field. He jumps from FML to Handorin. It's not incriminating, but it does not look pretty whatsoever.

After which he goes on to say this;

Oh yeah btw FoS: Kantrip because he promised to step up his game and felt now that he's been called Dumbtown he doesn't have to contribute at all.

Which is scrambling for a reason to FoS, if anything.

But it gets better!

Normally don't like going inactives the first day but:

quote="Overswarm"]I would like to actively encourage everyone to pressure players that are inactive and punish them by lynching them if necessary.

I can warm up to either JTB/Raz if it's the case, both are slots that are just gonna prod dodge until endgame.[/QUOTE]

Because this, my dear comrades, this is just the epitome of scrambling. He doesn't normally like to go for "inactives", but because THE MOD SAID HE SHOULD, he is going after said "inactives".

This small saga ends with this;

I say go the Hando route at this point, I was gunning for FML but this has been what, 2 days now? I'm not getting what I want, Hando has got interest.

Hando/Raz/Inactive

There's my lynchpool Kary

Which means that Ragnarock only wants to lynch inactives.


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So, out of his comments list, this stood out to me;

Seph keep doing your thing I guess sucks you think i'm the play but hopefully I can get this wagon off me

This is odd, because I remember Ragnarock saying I was a big fat null later on. It simply does not line up.


Then, Raziekiel returned! A great return, might I add?

Finished reading.

1. Handorin
2. Kantrip
3. Macman
4. No Hetero (marshy/nabe)
5. Ryker/Kevin (Lean)
6. Kary
7. Sephiroths Masamune
8. July
9. FullMetalLynch (rake/orbo)
10. Inferno
11. Raziek
12. Soup
13. JTB

This is very close to my reads. Excellent, Raziekiel! You have gained the right to survive, should you choose to follow me.
It is up to you!

Trust me here, No Hetero, I will figure Raziekiel out this game. I am quite adapt at reading him. Smirk.

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Inferno, whatever you and Seph did regarding my slot was a waste of time and a distraction.

Razieks big post wasn't too bad, he needs to get in the game more.

Gonna reread Soup, not seeing why he's public enemy number one anymore.

Don't like Handorin very much.

No Hetero moving down to null, their stuff isn't showing a clear thought process anymore.

WTT is coasting hard, do not like at all.

Regardless of certain players' stances on explaining votes and lynches we need people to substantiate their place on wagons if a Lynch is going to go through. **** quicklynches, hard-body crews, and lynching without coherent cases.

Attention comrades: if any of you have a gun, please aim it towards Kantrip tonight. It would be a pleasant addition to my calculation. Or should I say, subtraction?

To be honest, I could comment on more reports about Ragnarock, but I deem that unnecessary. Raziekiel finds him suspicious, and there is overall more substance now.

But then I saw this report...

I refuse to believe that going the inactive route, on Day One Is going to give us anything at all.

I hope you remember what I said earlier, because this is a contradiction if I ever saw it.

See, this is what a comrade would do;

Doesn't like inactive lynches on D1. Only chooses inactive players to lynch as another possibility to stop his own lynch.

Point out that which I found too!

So, on to Throne, who also returned! Much to my dismay, in a less spectacular fashion than Raziekiel.

Soup's reactions seem pretty towny overall.

Raz can go..

As you can see, the first comment is simply wrong. I don't even need to dignify it with a response.

As for Raz who "can go", that sounds like one half of Throne clinging onto his old read that the other half made. If you remember one of the first reports I commented on, his only reason for being okay with Raziekiel being gone is because he's not here and he needs to be dealt with. Raziekiel is here now, and his return was a great one!


That concludes my catch up.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Spoiler

tl;dr read anything in this game and soup is noncomittal as ****. raz can stay if he follows me. Soup is the goddamn play. FML is a good backup. WTT is icky because of his last post. Handorin/FML are good backup lynches.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Oh and sorry for being inactive. I try to be active but I'm honestly long done with this day and real life stuff keeps coming up.

 

[No Hetero]

There's your ****ing case people.

1-2 punch on Soup please preferably before he can even post.

 

[No Hetero]

@Kary: Vote Soup.

@Macman: Vote Soup.

@Throne: Vote Soup.

Have some ****ing balls and hammer dat *** guys.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Vote-Count:

Ragnarock (5) - JTB, Handorin, Sephiroths Masamune, No Hetero, Inferno
Handorin (4) - WatchedTheThrone, Raziek, Soup, Kantrip
July (1) - Kary
Kary (1) - July
Raziek (1) - Macman


Not Voting (1): FullMetalLynch

With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch!
A deadline has been set for Friday, July 27th at 3:00 p.m. EST​

Vote: Handorin

Like Soup waaay more at the moment. Re-reading now.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Goddamnit. Don't want to respond to this **** but I will anyways.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

I wonder what you're about to say. I really doubt you can prove that you weren't non-committal as **** all game long.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Hahahahaa, Ragnarock, you're so happy to admit that your so called "scum read" isn't even solid! It's also your only scum read, isn't it?
I wish I was sorry, my dear Ragnarock, but this is close to mockery. You are way too afraid to commit, to the point of having me and No Hetero as nulls.

Hahaha, this is laughable. I literally told you that I stopped because I couldn't get you or marshy or any other player to work with me, I presented my arguments and even pursued it.

Which is well within my calculations. Ragnarock is, once again, afraid to commit. This time on three slots which have been very prevalent.

There is a huge difference between commiting to something and being not sure of something, I've commited to my reads and stuck to my guns, but I'm also open to look at new things if I'm not getting what I want.

The first report is completely out of the left field. He jumps from FML to Handorin. It's not incriminating, but it does not look pretty whatsoever.

After which he goes on to say this;

I've had Handorin on the back burner for a very long time. I had marshy have a *****-fit just because I happened to agree with WTT's read on him, It's hard to please you people.

Which is scrambling for a reason to FoS, if anything.

But it gets better!

I'm out of options, I literally am eating humble pie right now, or at least I was, I had it up to here sitting there and just letting **** happen I didn't agree with, once again, consideration is not me jumping off my old reads, If I had a gun I would have shot FML a long goddamn time ago.

Because this, my dear comrades, this is just the epitome of scrambling. He doesn't normally like to go for "inactives", but because THE MOD SAID HE SHOULD, he is going after said "inactives".

This small saga ends with this;

Once again, a situation that I don't want because people refuse to cooperate, I am stuck with the inactive option at this point because 1) we have a ****-ton of them and 2) nobody wants to do anything else besides lynch them.

Which means that Ragnarock only wants to lynch inactives.

Absolutely wrong. I am only lynching inactives because people refuse to do anything else, I offered people FML for 2 days and I got absolutely no response. You really gonna try and pin this inactive **** on me? I am trying my damn near hardest to work with this town, but obviously cooperation is not in the vocabulary of it.

This is odd, because I remember Ragnarock saying I was a big fat null later on. It simply does not line up

And this matters why? Where does my statement ever say anything else?

I hope you remember what I said earlier, because this is a contradiction if I ever saw it.

I remember what I said earlier, it's like my opinion can't change or I didn't get fed up, did you forget the part where I basically told you how I felt about this game in general, arm-chair or not, it had merit.

Even after all that, I am still willing to work with others and you, I still haven't read the last page and I still haven't got marshy's response.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I dislike July. Is she REALLY this gorfdamn confident on Kary that she is just going to hardbody tunnel her all daily?

She is reminding me of Mario Party 2 "I am going to cling onto Rykers asshairs and fully devote myself to an obnoxious back-and-forth that no one wants to read" July.

Now she is going to come in here and offer reasoning as to why she is doing. I won't care and won't change my mind. Wasted time and effort from both parties hence why I hate giving reasoning. I prefer the person to just die.

I get what you're saying, apparently her restriction is making her that way but TBH i don't buy that bull****, I'd get it done just for the sake of getting it done, and maybe we'd get July to come out of the woodwork also.

who are the active players? i seriously only consider you/me/macman (you KNOW a game is ****ed up if macman is among the most active)/kary/inferno and kantrip is borderline. what the ****? do I HAVE to attack in that pool or have mother****ers ***** "guys marshy just wants to body inactives all game!!"

I hate it when you're right, I can't say that this game isn't ridden with inactivity and there are only a few people posting, but it's another reason why I decided to go through with it, because i'm not gonna pretend that i'm blind and can't see where you're coming from, and it's another why I unvoted in the first goddamn place.

 

[Inferno3044]

If you guys want cooperation then why not go July? It seems like a fairly agreed upon option that as of now I would support.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-UVfR5PaOE

 

[#HBC | Kary]

I say go the Hando route at this point, I was gunning for FML but this has been what, 2 days now? I'm not getting what I want, Hando has got interest.

Hando/Raz/Inactive

There's my lynchpool Kary

wait, I think you misread my question a bit.
I'm not interested in who you think you can lynch

Am I right in saying you WANT to lynch FML> Hando> Raz and there's no-one else in that list? Like, if you were king in this setup that's who you'd lynch?

 

[#HBC | Kary]

I feel like Soup might have some sort of indy wincon that involves hating on inactives

^ Soup probably shouldn't respond to this?

 

[#HBC | Kary]

EBWOP obvs. indy as in personal not I think soup is indy

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

FML is top priority, the rest is honestly fodder at this point.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Would really like Hando to get in here and make himself useful#

maybe tell me why Soup is a good lynch/ better lynch than himself

 

[Handorin]

If I'm inactive cause I don't post in the middle of the night, then I lol. Anyways, on with the show.

Not only is this paragraph bad, it's directed towards me. Hando, I thought you were content with me and now you're suddenly on my neck due to big-head marshy and Seph wanting my lynch? I'm not even getting the same LoM vibe from you, this post is terrible.

I said you got better, but still a slight scum read. The past few pages have done nothing to aleviate this. Plus, Seph just decided to be a homeboy and give two cents to actually post what most of us on your wagon think.

He's definitely not even close to town for me right now, i've yet to see someone give me a solid town-read in this game because people are too scared to do anything, look at the recent votes and notice how they only form because players decide they don't want to do anything but let someone else hopefully win the game for them.

There are a few players that are fairly established as town and others who are giving out these reads, but I guess they don't matter. I also suppose even if you think someone is scum, you can't vote them if a wagon is forming. "Oh wait, I'm too scared to act alone, no ill vote with the wagon." kinda contradictory. Don't ya think?

Soup, we need to get a push going in one direction. Neither of us is really sold on the other so turning this into you vs. me doesn't help either of us. Hando's posts have not been the greatest, and given his track record so far (Legend of Mana), I don't know if we can expect him to improve at all.

We need to get a direction and GO somewhere, or Macman/No Hetero is just going to run a train on the inactives, lose the game and go "w/e I had fun hbcyolo2012"

First of all, LoM is hardly my track record and that game was horrible on everyone's part.
Second, I pull your and everyone else's strings like they're a puppet and they don't even know. I might not always be right, but I get what I want, even if that's different than what I front in posts. Welcome to mafia.

Third, didn't Macman peg you as mafia already with a cop report? Why are we even listening to you? And if it's a fake report, then I guess we got scum in the bag anyways. Win/win here.

[collapse=His Report]

well, the reason you should lynch is

...


he's scum



i got a daycop investigation result on him for chrissakes... makin me out my role

[/collapse]

We're lynching Soup today and you tomorrow.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Oh damn, you really got me Handorin. Nope, my vote wasn't on FML until about one day ago, no sir, I'm not just jumping because of force.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

@Soup: what made you dislike FML initially? like, which posts?

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Hando,
that post was absolute balls
in the event that you're town I think you're doing it all wrong this late in the Day

Third, didn't Macman peg you as mafia already with a cop report? Why are we even listening to you? And if it's a fake report, then I guess we got scum in the bag anyways. Win/win here.

Uh, what? Or Macman was joking?

We're lynching Soup today and you tomorrow.

Me? Because I'm aligned with Soup? Because... what?

Lordy this doesn't smell smart

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Look at his #355 response to me, then I elaborate on it further in my #371.

Didn't even notice mac said he had daycop guilty on Raz. welp

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Yea i took it as a joke too tbh real talk

 

[Handorin]

Oh damn, you really got me Handorin. Nope, my vote wasn't on FML until about one day ago, no sir, I'm not just jumping because of force.

What does this have to do with anything? Did I even mention your vote on FML at all?

Hando,
that post was absolute balls
in the event that you're town I think you're doing it all wrong this late in the Day



Uh, what? Or Macman was joking?



Me? Because I'm aligned with Soup? Because... what?

Lordy this doesn't smell smart

I wasn't even talking to you. I was talking to Raz. Shows how much you read my post. I'm taking Mac's post as serious until he comes in and recants it. Posing as daycop isn't normall a safe move unless you like getting shot at by mafia.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

@Soup: what made you dislike FML initially? like, which posts?

Look at his #355 response to me, then I elaborate on it further in my #371.

nah,
INITIALLY. As in:

Like: WatchTheThrone, Raziek, JTB, July
Okay with: Inferno3044 (for now), Seph, Hetero
Dislike: Kantrip, Kary, FML

Still dislike FML, reads really haven't changed. Hando made a post jumping onto me and a reads list, not interested in him or concerned.

#208 and #264

not looking for what their scummiest posts are or w/e, or your case.

want to know where your read on them started, bro. cheers

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Oh man, making me dig again.

Hando, you were presenting the fact that I couldn't vote alone because I was too scared and I told you how I was voting FML literally almost all day.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

I wasn't even talking to you. I was talking to Raz. Shows how much you read my post.

misread raziek as ragnarok when i glanced over your post. my apologies. thought you mighta been talking to me as i just posted @you

I'm taking Mac's post as serious until he comes in and recants it. Posing as daycop isn't normall a safe move unless you like getting shot at by mafia.

unless you're joking?
or mac's a VT and doesn't care?
or whatever

going to drop this now

 

[#HBC | Kary]

@Soup how do you feel about claiming your role name and individual win condition?

notice the timing of this question given my recent inquiries

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Yeah I'm fine with that at this point. I'm Tom, I'm a kingmaker.

I have the individual win-con to recieve an item from someone and use it on a scum member before N2, i'm not wasting my kingmaker ability on that though because it's completely stupid. I was scouting for someone to use the kingmaker on but I honestly don't have **** and couldn't trust this town with an auto-hammer ability, which is what it does.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Here's my wall-post:

A king should get something back, something that you value most. Tomorrow night, and I do not expect later; disaster

Oh yeah, big catch on the auto-hammer ability, you have to lynch scum with it or I die, so I've been trying to think of someone who can guarantee me scum.

 

[Inferno3044]

So a kingmaker gives someone a one shot dayvig? If it wasn't for the catch I would think its a broken ability. Can you use it however many times you're right if we keep hitting scum with it?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Absolutely, it's almost adrenaline but with more dire consequences.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

It's not like a dayvig though, it ends the day on auto-hammer.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.....

Ok.

@Soup: In which case answer my #828 please

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I got a skies vibe from them, they weren't doing much and they didn't take initiative at all, that's the jist of it.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

I've not read Skies, but I understand that was just Orbo, and I believe it's not unusual for him to take a backseat regardless of alignment.

Independent
Me (Orbo or Rake side).
Not me.

1) Trick question ?
2) Who cares:
Marshy , Raz.

my head would be cool with Ryker/Marshy scummates.

then hopefully we can exceed those expectations!

Hetero , give me a reason to hammer.

Orbo will chew me out for doing it but he ain`t here.

Give me a solid reason and I will lay my hammer down

Spoiler

And boy, do I have quite a hammer to bring down, what with size 13 feet and all

^this gave you a scumread?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Yeah, but this way basically in a span of 2-3 days, the backseat isn't completely normal as you said, but it's the fact that this never changed and they still have yet to show that initiative, they did crumb that they can't vote but it's not much of an excuse, could rephrase what I said about the hammer deal but i'd be wasting space.