The Wall - Game End.... no one wins?

[#HBC | Kary]

sorry bro, don't care about what they've done since that might make them scum
interested pretty much just in why you thought they were scum from the offset
because while I can see disliking me/kantrip in your initial reads I don't get FML.

Plus I have an interesting line of inquiry to pursue

do you have a posting restriction for this game?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Nope, was thinking about faking one as Swiss but that got ****ed over earlygame.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Alright, first off: You're all going to stop because I decided to play like Swiss, I wanted to do something different and I'm not getting hammered over something so small because of whatever bull**** reason you have, secondly, the questions did matter on a huge scale and I don't expect them to be ignored.

#196 where you hang up the Swiss thing

I forgot I had a posting restriction for this game too, multi-posts are the cool thing nowadays.

Oh, I forgot about FML too, he can still die in a fire.

#310 you say you have a posting restriction?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Was a joke because I was multi-posting. I actually really like this latest banter from you Kary

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Of course you do, Soup.

*looks at* Player list:

1. Handorin (Scummy)
2. Kantrip (Dummy)
3. Macman (Who?)
4. No Hetero (marshy/nabe) (Nully)
5. Ryker/Kevin (Towny?)
6. Kary (Null lean scum.)
7. Sephiroths Masamune (Who?)
8. July (Town. What the ****, people.)
9. FullMetalLynch (rake/orbo) (Scummy)
10. Inferno (Loves playing with Riddles over playing the actual game.)
11. Raziek (Who?)
12. Soup (Yo.)
13. JTB (Who?)

FML/Hando seems good right now, might swing FML first though because of personal reasons. Gonna sleep on it.

Quoted the whole post for context; bolded part is what i'm interested in.

Explain this, it looks a lot like a personal win condition crumb

 

[#HBC | Kary]

That's #311 by the way

and you italicized 'personal' but that gets lost in the quote

 

[Inferno3044]

What do you mean by an item for you ind. wincon?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Personal is a homage to skies vibe, basically.

@Inferno

Yeah, it's an individual win-con of mine.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Also item, maybe like a gun or something idk, just says I need something by N2 or later and I gotta use it on scum

 

[#HBC | Kary]

ffs, so you've been whaling on FML all game because of another game?

FML asked you about 'personal reasons' in their wall and you didn't respond

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Gotta go with your gut sometimes, I've been doing it most of this game actually, didn't really see July scum and i've got people breathing down my neck, eventually decided to try and work with people rather than pursue what I want, hopefully meshing it in later.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

yeah, you've been on the end of a not-especially serious waggon for a while I know

but I'm re-reading and like in 50% of your posts you mention that you want FML to die

which seriously makes me wonder whether that's your personal win-con

especially in light of how incredibly broken the individual wincon you claimed appears to be

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Nope, don't see why it's an issue suddenly.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Soup has been stinky, but FML has been stinky too. The Soup wagon is entirely serious.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

I don't see how your play adds up with your wincon

and I don't see how your individual wincon is fair to you, given that it relies on someone else giving you an item N2 AND you having to use it on scum.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-UVfR5PaOE

this is awesome music to play mafia to, btw

I am here, even though somewhat absent. No comments at the moment, I just want Soup to die.

But with 2 5/7 wagons, this feels like Paper Mario all over again.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

@seph w.r.t. paper mario

which is why i have a good feeling about this game

and why I don't want to see a quickhammer

 

[#HBC | Kary]

Unvote

howisthisnottencharsffs?

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

@seph w.r.t. paper mario

which is why i have a good feeling about this game

and why I don't want to see a quickhammer

There's another point of view this time around, though.

Out of a purely relational point of view, I want Soup to die. If Soup dies, I can expect me and No Hetero to get **** done.
If Handorin dies, then I wouldn't mind, I had him down as a good alternative, but No Hetero disagrees. It creates less direction (ESPECIALLY tomorrow) and more *****ing.


Mafia has an unlimited amount of variables, and this is one of them. It might not have to do with scum hunting, but it does have a lot to do with the game, the pace and the relationships, which in turn affect scumhunting.

That's just one of the reasons to have Soup dead, though.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

you just have to pick the best lynch

typically that involves finding who's scummiest,

but can also involve what that lynch achieves in terms of connections/getting things done etc.

on your own argument (soup> hando to agree with no hetero)
you should probably be lynching raz

so I think you already know this

rest assured I already know this

 

[#HBC | Kary]

@SOUP

YOUR CLAIM IS OBVIOUSLY VERY SCUMMY

how do you respond to this accusation?

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

And that's where we come to the point where we have to weigh aspects against each other.

In this case, I want Soup/Handorin/FML. No Hetero doesn't want Handorin // to a lesser degree FML.
No Hetero wants Raz/(doesntmind)Soup/July (iirc?). I don't want Raz // to a lesser degree July.

badoom-tsh 1+1+1-1=2

 

[#HBC | Kary]

nah i'm still at the deciding who's scummiest stage, sorry bro

scumlist should follow

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

I never assumed otherwise. It's only natural that you're not as good as me.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

And Macman definitely DID say JTB.

no i didn't

 

[#HBC | Mac]

macman: **** you. shouldve manned the **** up and helped me kill july when you had the chance. now she is just going to pull a frozen and tunnel kary and post every 2-3 days. notice how BOTH july/kary are in your lynch pool? notice how theyre both combating each other ALL ****ing day? that means you should probably ****ing lynch one. now the leading wagons are on soup (who you say you dont feel too much) and hando which neither of us are too enthusiastic about. either one of these wagons are gonna sunk in or townll end up pulling a last minute deadline out of their *** due to refusing to not play like ****ies and just shut the **** and hop a wagon cuz "oh no he might be town!!" its ****ing d1. who gives a mother****. now we have *******es wagoning hando for who knows the **** why

vote: july

 

[#HBC | Mac]

or vote soup i guess, (soup i didn't really want you to go) too bad you're being dumb and going for hando who is for sure not a play

 

[#HBC | Kary]

@seph:

is that list your scumpicks, or just who you want today?
do you have any other suspicions?

 

[#HBC | Mac]

raz was the one i got the guilty on

Spoiler

cuz im obviously not joking at all

ugh i don't wanna lynch soup

 

[#HBC | Kary]

@macman: but his claim is super scumspicious?

Soup should respond to #861 etc.

I'd like July to post

almost caught up, beginning to get handle on this game. back later

 

[#HBC | Mac]

@mod: votecount

 

[No Hetero]

good gorf you guys are such ****ing ****ies. ****ing vote soup and end this ****ing dayphase please

 

[FullMetalLynch]

Man, would rather go hando than soup. gotta run, get more stuff to this game tomorrow.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Keeping this dayphase going will make this game die due to interest/momentum being lost.

Finish the day.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

fine vote: soup

 

[FullMetalLynch]

he's at L1 right?

 

[#HBC | Kary]

**** off seph

fearmonger elsewhere

i believe that is L-1

 

[#HBC | Mac]

oh kary unvoted

my mchammer post went to waste

 

[FullMetalLynch]

contemplating hammer before I leave.

 

[#HBC | Kary]

you just said you didn't want soup

ffs

for starters i want to post some reads before day ends

hold ****ing horses