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The Waffle House (Video Thread)

Mr. PotatoBread

Mr. PotatoBread

Smash Cadet
Joined
Oct 28, 2014
Messages
27
Guys, I have more videos of my ****ty wolf. Pls halp.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWYvuvIiaZE (vs Ike)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsAyL4L2vgI (vs Marth) (sound gets very bad after a while)

But seriously, I really appreciate all the help I've been getting from the wolf forums and just now am I starting to understand more of what I am doing wrong and what I should be thinking about during a set.

I really want to improve and i feel that (although this doesn't appear in my play because i'm still bad) I've made some breakthroughs on stage control and the neutral game in general.

A detailed critique would be very very very helpful.
 
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Filosafer

Filosafer

Smash Apprentice
Joined
Oct 10, 2014
Messages
129
Mr. PotatoBread said:
Guys, I have more videos of my ****ty wolf. Pls halp.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWYvuvIiaZE (vs Ike)
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2tired. Work on spacing. A lot of moves were incredibly poorly spaced. Cringe-worthy bad spacing. You'd go too far with nair, somehow miss uairs, shine a full body length away from them, etc. Ike picked up on it and managed to land a fsmash in neutral because you were throwing out hitboxes a foot in front of him. Work on making your hits connect, first and foremost. Too tired right now to go more into an analysis, especially with that bizarre audio, I'm sure someone else will go into more details.
I know you'll get a good analysis if you post in the Wolf Skype Group.

EDIT: Apparently I get my 100th message trophy in 5 minutes. Woo.
 
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Gunslinger

Gunslinger

Smash Apprentice
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Jun 24, 2014
Messages
103
Location
Tallahassee, Florida
Yo I thought I'd revive this dead thread with some new content.

Two days ago, I scrubbed it up at my local biweekly against this other scrub and lost by SD'ing a lot and after that I almost scrubbed it up again but somehow came back and ran my way all the way to Grand Finals. Here's the bracket and the videos if you guys wanna give me critiques and improve upon my ****.

bracket:
http://challonge.com/PPPM3216

Here's my losers run in order:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUOvuwMUEWQ (vs Fox)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyYr0_C9Las (vs Samus/Ness)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYy05cFyxhg (vs Lucario)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KObTL5PJVuw (vs DDD) - Loser's Semis
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uxwizp0jnhA (vs Sonic/G&W) - Loser's FInals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XU_Lx1HjANs (vs Ness) - Grand Finals
 
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permafros7

Smash Cadet
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Jan 10, 2016
Messages
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I'll take a look at the set vs the Lucario (albeit it will be cursory at the moment, I have things to get to). First off, this Lucario plays...questionably, to say the least. He really appears to be either new to the character, uncomfortable with him in a tournament setting, or he kinda autopiloted against you. He also rolled like it was sm4sh.

Some things that do stand out:

There are a few instances where you could most likely have taken punishes further. At the beginning where you shine his shield, you could have certainly gone for either a shine grab or drill pressure. Lucario's fastest OoS option comes out on frame 4 (dair), so if I'm not mistaken, shine grab should work. Furthermore, you could do a better job punishing all of his rolls.

You could have done some better edgeguarding. While it is good to grab the ledge, it becomes obvious in game 1 that he has a habit of recovering on stage. It seems you had a bit of trouble getting the download on your opponent.

Last thing from Game 1. You could work on some shine spacing/maybe throwing it out a little less in neutral-albeit you weren't really punished for it...if at all. Just something higher level players may catch on to.

In Game 2 @6:06 you do take a 0-45 punish. This started off because Lucario was able to command grab you out of your shield after you went into shield from a down tilt that you crouch cancelled. I believe you could have done a CC shine grab in this situation. You do have OoS options to beat this such as shine and jump that would have beaten out his command grab.

Overall, you did a much better job in your punish game than he did. However, a better Lucario will play a lot less aggressively than Jiffy did in this set, which is why you need to be careful about what moves you throw out in neutral and your spacing. Lucario has lethal combos on Wolf, and this matchup is a combo slugfest that can get really out of hand if you mess up on either side.

I'd also consider taking a look at any tech habits (you lost your first stock off of Jiffy reading your tech roll w/ a down b cancelled down smash).

Another thing I think would be good to implement is jab reset. Jiffy misses quite a few techs here. At 7:54, you let Jiffy just lay there and take a little siesta for around a second, which is a free jab reset.

Good set overall. You converted your wins in neutral much better than he did, to the extent where I question Jiffy's experience on Lucario. Hopefully, either myself and/or someone else will take a closer look since I do have to go to class now. Hope this helped!
 
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