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The ultimate analysis of ultimate destiny

MysticKenji

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Your reasoning on why there won't be more than five newcomers is horrible.
"aesthetycalle correct"??? That means nothing.

Your reasoning on why Ridley, Olimar, Sukapon and Lucario won't be playable is also horrible.

Also, what's an AS???
 

burrito

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This thread doesn't deserve the title of "ultimate" or even "analysis". You should probably change it to something else.
 

AlbelNox

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This thread doesn't deserve the title of "ultimate" or even "analysis". You should probably change it to something else.
Well, that was something like a tribute to the Lemon Demon song "Ultimate showdown of ultimate destiny", not that I really thought my reasoning was really ultimate.
 

Shuma

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You're right in one thing, Ridley is SOOOOO huge he blots out the sun like Persian arrows.
 
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I agree with most of this, but I get slightly annoyed when people throw Isaac around, and leave Felix in the dark.

Great ideas though. I'm gonna put my neck on the line here, but I agree about Ridley. However, Geno was classed as 1st party by Sakurai's team.
 

Shuma

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This "Ultimate" analysis is based on opinions and nothing more.
 

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· Mr Game & Watch: I wouldn't bet my life on it, but I still do think that he's likely to get to Brawl.
Little advice. Don't bet your life on anything.

· Ridley: He's so huge he wouldn't be possibly used as a palyable character. If he did, I really think he would be so awkward to control it would make him an annoying character. He just doesn't fit in Brawl.
I can't even be bothered to argue against you. Your right. Ridley is bigger then Everest.
 

AlbelNox

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This "Ultimate" analysis is based on opinions and nothing more.
Yeah, you're right. I kept saying that over and over again. And, as I said, too:

Well, that was something like a tribute to the Lemon Demon song "Ultimate showdown of ultimate destiny", not that I really thought my reasoning was really ultimate.
So I don't really preted for that post to be ultimate.
 

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You can't see a moveset for Captain Olimar? I'm sorry, but that's no reason to say he won't make it. Sakurai created movesets for Fox and Captain Falcon, neither of which ever fought outside of their vehicles.
 

Shuma

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Then why do we the forumites whant to debate your opinions? what a waste of time. *leaves*
 

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@ thread starter, your new here so I hope you don't get flamed too bad.
 

Gypsy Lee

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Ridley and Olimar won't be in Brawl?

You fail so hard that even Wolf supporters frown upon you. Either take a shower and scrub off your ignorance or just go kill yourself you noobcake.
 

AlbelNox

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Ridley and Olimar won't be in Brawl?

You fail so hard that even Wolf supporters frown upon you. Either take a shower and scrub off your ignorance or just go kill yourself you noobcake.
Thanks for bein so kind to me.
 

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...Two words for you: Perish. Now. I just flamed another idiot over on the Ridley thread for saying he wouldn't be playable; only a boss. Your reasons have been debated for quite some time. Are you so ignorant that you cannot see that?!

I'm already tiring of wasting time in this worthless thread. Good-bye, you foolish "noobcake", as Gypsy said.
 

AlbelNox

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...Two words for you: Perish. Now. I just flamed another idiot over on the Ridley thread for saying he wouldn't be playable; only a boss. Your reasons have been debated for quite some time. Are you so ignorant that you cannot see that?!

I'm already tiring of wasting time in this worthless thread. Good-bye, you foolish "noobcake", as Gypsy said.
Thanks you two for being so warm-hearted to people that don't think like you. Open-minded indeed.
 

IllidR

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This is PHull of PHail. Olimar won't be in Brawl because you can't think of a moveset for him? Give me a break, he has so many possibilities for moves, just go look at the Olimar thread.. specifically page 34.
 

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No, seriously, I don't think I've done so bad for you to flame me that hard. But, what to say, time will prove either if I was right or I was wrong.
 

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH what complete ****. too big and akward my ***. Ridley is second on the list, only feasible metroid rep, adds to the air game, and is a FLYING SPACE PIRATE DRAGON. that is just made of win. , geno is 100x more popular than bomberman, and sukapon breaking the brawl atmosphere? G@W was more awkward, and a lot of people know him, hey i mean you do, and theres obviously a LOT you don't know.

and you not being to make a moveset for Olimar doesn't mean nintendo can. it just means you either havn't played pikmin games, or lack imagination and brains.

and on sigurd, it is quite obvious that sakurai is using ike as a current incarnation of him, so i doubt sigurd has much of a chance.

and no mechs is a really poor reason to exclude RAY 01. i hope he makes it in, personally. want to compare views? check the link in my sig.

sorry if i sounded like i was flaming, i try to avoid it and mostly used logic :(
 

AlbelNox

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH what a complete ****. too big and akward my ***.
I could really live with you all telling me where and why I'm wrong without using so much offenses. Really. I'm starting to doubt if you're even able to do so.
 

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I agree with you on the veterans, but you ruined it with the "Ridley's too big" argument. I don't even support Ridley, and it wouldn't phase me if wasn't in, but that's horrible logic. "Too big and awkward"? Try again.
 

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I could really live with you all telling me where and why I'm wrong without using so much offenses. Really. I'm starting to doubt if you're even able to do so.
whoops i meant to right complete ****, not a complete ****, sorry. :( seriously. i meant i thought your opinion was stupid, but it was just completly different from most of the points on the board and so completly biased that i couldn't help insulting it. please don't ignore the rest of that post.

plus you used the worst and most disproven argument on my favorite character (ridley) and if you want to read the debunk, read about halfway down the first post of the official ridley thread 2.1
 

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This topic is a much-less detailed knock-off of my topic, yet it has already caught up half way with my topic in number of posts. =(
 

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thats cus yours isn't controversial. go make one on the list of reasons why ridley won't be in brawl, and you'll get lots of posts, trust me.
 

ndm508

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it's been a good long time since I've seen one of the Smash threads that just discussed ideas for the next game instead of becoming an argument within the first couple posts...

...sigh...oh well...might as well enjoy it.

I'll say what 2390423749087 others have said. Ridley can be resized. Ridley for Brawl. weeeeoooo.
 

AlbelNox

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nothin to see here folks

just a casual with an issue of nintendo power
JAJAJAJAJA casual yo xDDD esa si que es buena...

Well, I can see a fanatical problem around here. I'm expressing my opinion on a topic where we could peacefully talk about the good and bad points of my analysis, so that I could correct them, and make something with everyone could agree with. But, just for saying that Ridley is not likely to get for being huge, or that I couldn't think of movesets for some characters, you have actually told me that I'm a ******, a noob, that I should die...

Seriously, do you even know what you're talking about? You're telling a person to die just because he doesn't agree with your point of view. You're using such an offensive language just because I said there's a character that I think won't get into a game. A game, guys. I don't know what would you have told me if I started an anti-religion topic or something like that. I would be dead by now, I think.

Either you don't know how to properly speak or you don't want to, most of you should really put a little more care on what you say. Is really such violence fair? Am I really worth that much insults? No I'm not. If I had killed a man, if I had steal something, if I had insulted you or your families, maybe I would. But I just gave my opinion.

A game is something fun, and starting this topic was an idea to get more fun for it. Speculating about which characters would enter and which not sure provides entertainment. But what you have said here today is no fun at all.
 

GaryCXJk

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Okay, seriously. You come here, post something in which you "state your opinion", and you say that you could be wrong with some, but then you start to defend your "opinions" as if they were "facts", and "already set".

Sorry, but, I agree with people who say this is full of fail.

Even though I won't see Ridley happening that quick, it is NOT impossible. I mean, who could have guessed we could play on a friggen PictoChat stage? If you said that a while ago people would just laugh at you. Oh, and fricken SNAKE? People would laugh at you a while ago if you said Snake should be in "the next Super Smash Bros. game".

Pikachu should not be bigger than two Pokémon Trainer heads. Mario should be around 155 cm. Samus should be around 190 cm (according to the booklet of the original game). Characters get scaled. Ridley will be no exception.
 

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All you have to do is review your argument, make better points, address the situation with less of a "Haha you people are idiots for flaming me because im so cool and calm and collective and therefor im a smug *******" style approach and I guarantee you will get less flames. Even die hard ridley fans wont flame someone with a valid point, no please edit your post so we dont have another spam-on-fire topic
 

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Your Veterans section I can agree mostly on. The Newcomers, meh.. it's Ok as far as assumptions go.

The "CHARACTERS THAT WON'T MAKE IT, AND WHY" section....

I'm not going to say I 100% disagree.
This may have seemed like common sense/ a good opinion to you, with the whole not for Brawl thing, and I can see where you're coming from.



But...
hahahahahaha this is funny. I'm guessing you like getting flamed,
because there's a whole lotta that coming your way. You said no RIDLEY, GENO, and LUCARIO. The 3 most rabid fanbases of not-yet-confirmed characters around here. Good luck to you sir.

Yeah.. what this guy said. The fanbases here are nasty (as you've seen). Just to let you know, since you're new. Every time someone makes a post against a character (especially a popular one), someone that supports that character goes to the official thread just to tell others to flame that person, like it's war time or something...

So next time, when making one of these character assumption threads, stay clear of popular characters if you don't think they will be in. Hell, if you don't say a popular character will be in, you'll still get flamed anyway, so don't bother even making one of these, unless you are willing to say some crowd pleasing words, even if you don't believe in them.

I can't wait till the Japanese get Brawl so all of this can end....
 

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Well people are probably berating the TC over the idiotic Ridley thing, but I'm going to point out one thign that always seems to annoy me about the misinformed.

Sigurd is not Sakurai's favorite FE character. He was not intended to be in SSBM. Both things are rumors. Don't go about saying claims about Sakurai's preferences until you've actually seen an official source.
 

burrito

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Well, that was something like a tribute to the Lemon Demon song "Ultimate showdown of ultimate destiny", not that I really thought my reasoning was really ultimate.
Yeah, I know, that's a good song. Still, though, the title is very misleading. When I see a thread with a title like this, I expect to see a lot more reasoning put into it. Might be one of the reasons that this thread bothers people so much.
 

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...Alright, as much as it pains me to say it... I'm sorry for the harsh flame. I just get mad at the tiniest thing that has to do with anti-Ridley. Plus, the "He's too big" thing has been used and disproven multiple times. So again, sorry. I really don't like flaming people (And you and someone else are the only ones of my 30-something posts), and you didn't deserve it.
 

LemonManX

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Anyone who argues that Ridley won't appear because of size or awkwardness (Even though Bowser is MASSIVE compared to Mario now) is just made of fail. I'm sorry dude, I'd take it much more seriously if you were to give a GOOD argument against Ridley instead of taking up teh popular ones.
 

lethminite

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taking 9 newcomers instead, droping K.rool. and adding cpt.olimar, sukapon, lucario, geno and ridley
and i'd say you are close to my dream (realistic dream) roster.
we have 3 months, 13 weeks, to go, 9 characters in 13 weeks could fit in fine.
 
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