Fuujin
Smash Champion
Oh **** top 2.
I concede defeat.
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The Top 5 Brawl [ US | CAN | MEX]
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I concede defeat.
vato_break
Smash Master
wonf is very good. i believe him and his crew plan to go to WHOBO, so everyone will see then.
LordXav1er
Smash Ace
You just look for something to pick out xD I've had a super tough 7 man tourney one time... No more tourneys at PnT here...
http://allisbrawl.com/ttournament.aspx?id=12535
That one well... Just do research on the three people he placed under...
Also as far as I know you don't show any results where you beat someone good/decent/pro or at least comparable to ven's. If you have any good wins then yeah you'd be top 2 worthy too.
Fuujin
Smash Champion
This is what we've moved to now?
Going by who people placed UNDER?
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/4821/tassinglesbracket.gif
LordXav1er
Smash Ace
Well if you place under all national leveled players... I'd say that is pretty good as you at least beat everyone else.
This is what we've moved to now?
Going by who people placed UNDER?
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/4821/tassinglesbracket.gif
As for your Bracket
lost to Clel (Decent/legit MK? iirc), Beat Lux (Is this DeLux?), Beat Jai Lindsey (Idk so please inform) and lost to Mr Doom (A solid Ike)
LordXav1er
Smash Ace
That's a good win then on Fuujin's part. The MU is also one of the worst for Zelda.
Fuujin
Smash Champion
Yes, but notice how I'm not clinging to this as a major reason to be #1 Zelda.
Just like when I beat Hades in pools at SiiS.
It was clear neither of you knew the MU so I don't go around flaunting that I beat someone who was clueless at the match up in tournament.
_Kain_
Smash Champion
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Getting into bracket doesn't really mean he was a better player, depending on size of the tournament, lot of variables could go into play. Harder MU's in one pool and not in the other, easier overall players.
I think who you beat should be more taken into account rather than only results. Kinda dumb if you ask me.
I think who you beat should be more taken into account rather than only results. Kinda dumb if you ask me.
Fuujin
Smash Champion
Yeah that's how people came to think it was an even MU.I learned running and dash grabbing people is not a viable strategy from you
Couldn't the exact same thing be said about placements?
LordXav1er
Smash Ace
Yeah that tourney was October 9th of 2010. (DeLux wasn't a top 5 IC at the time, but is now.) How long ago can results be counted?
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=288635
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=288635
Roller
Smash Legend
It's true. I find it absurd that people are citing non-nationals pool results here for justifications..
ok, you convinced me, I'll take your spot now.
nvm, that's prob around the time I got ***** by Atomsk's DDD. L
MegaRobMan
Smash Hero
I love the criteria people hold for a lot of characters. Makes me proud Wolf mains have such strong instincts to challenge for position in the pack instead of ho-hum stuff.
LordXav1er
Smash Ace
Fuujin, Riot and ED have been around offline a lot longer. Ven and Mocha and Linkz are fairly new for the Zeldas.
Fuujin
Smash Champion
Pools where everyone makes it into bracket are incredibly srs business apparently.
DeLux
Player that used to be Lux
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Roller should be top 5 ICs because I'm free
LordXav1er
Smash Ace
Basically DeLux was a noob back then, is what I'm understanding.
Roller
Smash Legend
Wait. Do people actually go their mains consistently in pools out there???
I see that Tearbear doesn't, because he is apparently a man.
Also. Tutu's Zelda 3 stocked L_Cancel's Wario. I have the replay on my wii. I believe this puts him in contention for #2 on the list.
Alsoalso. I'm more free than DeLux. That man made it to brackets at APEX. Real talk, I couldn't get out of round 1. ;;
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I see that Tearbear doesn't, because he is apparently a man.
Also. Tutu's Zelda 3 stocked L_Cancel's Wario. I have the replay on my wii. I believe this puts him in contention for #2 on the list.
Alsoalso. I'm more free than DeLux. That man made it to brackets at APEX. Real talk, I couldn't get out of round 1. ;;
freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
DeLux
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I'm still a noobBasically DeLux was a noob back then, is what I'm understanding.
You got robbed and I got lucky is all. The results didn't really reflect who is better between us imo
_Kain_
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Yeah which is why I kinda said what I did in the 2nd part you didn't quote. I mean it's nice if you won a tournament or something, but what if you dodge everyone good to get there? Or there weren't any good players there at all?
Results shouldn't play the only part in deciding who should be above who. I think it is a more accurate to see who they beat to judge players skillwise. Only discrepancy that can come with that is some players are exposed to certain MU's more depending on region compared to others so will do better in said MU's.
Basically...Ven beating Richbrown and Z is very respectable. Just look at how they placed at Apex. I think it's easy to decide from that that he should prolly at least be Top 2 for Zeldas (no disrespect to the other Zeldas)
List is kind of inaccurate for that reason because it only keeps ppl on the list if their active rather than how good they are. If anything this should just be a competition thread then and whoever keeps getting good placements should be #1 all the time.
Fuujin
Smash Champion
This is what I'm thinking.
People in my region have been known to go all CF in pools just for the lulz unless it's a very large tournament, I've never seen anyone place emphasis on beating another player in bracket when its a smaller tournament.
ohh ****
by dat Xavier logic beating a top player in pools constitutes top 2 for said character.
but wait how long ago was this cuz if L Cancel he wasnt a top wario it totally doesn't count.
Well I mean if were REALLY gonna go by pools, then I'm sure we would have a plethora of new players rushing in saying "Oh I beat (insert top player here) in pools, make me top _____".
Just like roller posted, Tutu 3 stocked L_Cancel, by this logic he's automatically in the running for top 2 Zelda as well.
I think it's sort of a region thing, apparently SoCal takes their pools very srsly and other regions clown around in them sometimes.
Then we might as well go on to involve Money Mathces, most people take those more seriously than the average pool.
It should be a mixture of both overall results and who beats who and the situation imo.
LordXav1er
Smash Ace
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyZMupYJlnw
If you don't want to count his pools win vs Rich Brown.... Then this bracket match wasn't too bad at all.
He still has Vato Break (2-0) and Z (2-0) in bracket as wins.
Both recent and were/are known or ranked during the time periods, not 2010.
If you don't want to count his pools win vs Rich Brown.... Then this bracket match wasn't too bad at all.
He still has Vato Break (2-0) and Z (2-0) in bracket as wins.
Both recent and were/are known or ranked during the time periods, not 2010.
Roller
Smash Legend
I think it was the day after APEX. And L_Cancel is #1 Olimar in my heart, so that makes his Wario a notable win, which puts him above someone who beat Z, because I have lost to L_Cancel's Olimar in the past and I beat Z.
ipso facto.. Tutu= #1 Zelda and is in the running for #4 Link.
EDIT: O. I ALMOST FORGOT. Tutu ALSO beat the legendary Hot_ArmS with Zelda in a MM for a snapple. The clincher tho? This happened LESS THAN A WEEK AGO.
#1 Tutu
#2 Fuujin
#3 ED
#4 My aunt Gladys
#5 An open ketchup packet
Honorable Mention: Ven
ipso facto.. Tutu= #1 Zelda and is in the running for #4 Link.
EDIT: O. I ALMOST FORGOT. Tutu ALSO beat the legendary Hot_ArmS with Zelda in a MM for a snapple. The clincher tho? This happened LESS THAN A WEEK AGO.
#1 Tutu
#2 Fuujin
#3 ED
#4 My aunt Gladys
#5 An open ketchup packet
Honorable Mention: Ven
Fuujin
Smash Champion
LOL what happened to riot?
Did Vato go Mario?
His MK and Diddy aren't counted as top 5.
Also Z took game one of the set, you just posted it like 10 pages ago.
LordXav1er
Smash Ace
Vato was RANKED in SoCal for MK/Diddy/maybe Mario?
ok Z was 2-1
All recent is the point.
Roller
Smash Legend
Come on, Fuujin. Let's be real here. Does Riot have a win vs a Mississippi random in the past 2 days? Because I think that is what it would take to put him over Ven for that coveted HM spot.
I mean sure, we all know Riot is good in doubles. But come on... VATO was RANKED in SoCal.
Show me the Mississippi random, or Riot is gonna have to step aside for now. I'm pretty sure the Ketchup packet just got on there from silly gimmicks that wont last though. The Tim Tebow of Zeldas. Come playoff time, Riot will be back on top, and the Ketchup packet will be looking like mustard.
I mean sure, we all know Riot is good in doubles. But come on... VATO was RANKED in SoCal.
Show me the Mississippi random, or Riot is gonna have to step aside for now. I'm pretty sure the Ketchup packet just got on there from silly gimmicks that wont last though. The Tim Tebow of Zeldas. Come playoff time, Riot will be back on top, and the Ketchup packet will be looking like mustard.
Fuujin
Smash Champion
Didn't you know?
Riot has beaten TWO good players in pools.
That's the reason he's first on the current list.
Both of them were ranked at the time this happened so that makes it even better.
Riot has beaten TWO good players in pools.
That's the reason he's first on the current list.
Both of them were ranked at the time this happened so that makes it even better.
Tearbear
Smash Ace
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I would like to see some replays of X's link
I would argue my ICs since ive also gotten top 4 with them like 3 times beating falln, pitbull, zekey, and I have taken games off tyrant but I dont wanna since Im really bad at CGing
but larry has a real good ICs sep he only has wins on rich
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z31qowmQZk
I would argue my ICs since ive also gotten top 4 with them like 3 times beating falln, pitbull, zekey, and I have taken games off tyrant but I dont wanna since Im really bad at CGing
but larry has a real good ICs sep he only has wins on rich
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Z31qowmQZk
Roller
Smash Legend
And what a coincidence! I beat Z 2-1 as well! He was innovative enough to CP me to Brinstar game 2 for his win. Beware ICs mains, Z may be free on neutrals, but he is good at the matchup on Brinstar!!!
I think Z should be #1 on the Brinstar list.
I think Z should be #1 on the Brinstar list.
Roller
Smash Legend
If there's one thing I've learned from Mikey, it's that when a peach main tells you those three words, you dip.
LordXav1er
Smash Ace
I posted them, I'll have more up in a bit tho so look out TearBear
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Tearbear
Smash Ace
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repost plzI posted them, I'll have more up in a bit tho so look out TearBear
z00ted
The Assault of Laughter ﷼
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Roller
Smash Legend
Ok. Let me stop you right there. You just defended being a top ICs by citing 3 wins which included a KIRBY and a DEDEDE. (idk who pitbull mains, but I assume it's another +3 matchup, and he may or may not be free.)
Larry's ICs I've watched plenty of. They're pretty solid. But as we all know, beating Z is the criteria to get ranked. Now, by this point I think we all know my ICs beat Z at Genesis.
Here is Larry's ICs vs Z.
You can drop your argument now.
Stick to campaigning for #1 Link.
Actually, considering Larry wins the next 2 games with
, maybe he should be a top 5 mk. Has Nairo beaten Z with mk? If not. Time to update.
vato_break
Smash Master
Ven beat my metaknight/diddy when i was ranked with them. I almost make top 5 for diddy but im short on wins and would be put behind GDX probably.
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