The "Tales of" Series

[ryuu seika]

I still wonder how the playable one was planned to fight before they decided to drop him. All the others ever did was otter slap people (it seemed quite effective though).

 

[Minato]

I just remembered I still haven't gone through Legendia yet. I think Legendia, DotNW, and Hearts are the only three I need to beat that I legitly own.
Even knowing how different Legendia is since it's by a different team, I'm still looking forward to it.

 

[ryuu seika]

Legendia is great. The combat is 2D but it has depth and, though the cast looks to be made out of plastic, they interact far better than any other I've encountered. The scenery is beutiful and, in the oppinion of most, so is the music. My only real complaint is with the lack of multiplayer.

I've not played Hearts as it isn't available in english .

My backlog consists of ToV, which I can't play until I visit someone with an Xbox, and ToD PSX, which doesn't work on my PAL PS2 and so can't be played until my computer works properly again.
I aught to get back to hunting down ToL's quiz cottages though. I WILL get that treasure chest title!

 

[BladeOfHavoc]

You can't play any Tales of Ryuu Seika? That really sucks... I think I would go insane if I didn't have any to play! I always have my copy of Phantasia for the gameboy, Legendia, and Symphonia ready at ALL times.

 

[Minato]

These are the Tales games I own, if anyone wants to see.

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My friend bought the other Tales games I'm missing like ToS PS2 and ToD Directors Cut, so I was able to play them from him.

 

[ryuu seika]

You can't play any Tales of Ryuu Seika?

I can replay the others, I just can't play either of the two english ones I haven't finished yet.

If I was stuck without any then yeah, I'd be having serious issues myself.

 

[BladeOfHavoc]

Recently, I've been hooked on ToS more than usual... Maybe it's my new awesometastically amazing Zelos combo!

 

[ryuu seika]

Ok, so my swap magic just gave up and somebody has left my DS running for atleast 3 days. I'm starting to wonder what's going to go wrong with my PSP (the Wii's already broken once) to leave me as Talesless as you thought.

 

[BladeOfHavoc]

I'm merely predicting the future Ryuu... MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

 

[Ryu Shimazu]

These are the Tales games I own, if anyone wants to see.

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My friend bought the other Tales games I'm missing like ToS PS2 and ToD Directors Cut, so I was able to play them from him.

When did they make ToV for ps3 in America?

 

[ryuu seika]

Innocence, Hearts, ToD PS2, the second TotA, Phantasia PSP and Narikiri Dungeon 2 are all japan only. What gave you the impression that the PS3 ToV wasn't an import.

Also, I'll be getting a new PS2 in under a week so hopefully my problems are solved.

 

[BladeOfHavoc]

Are you able to read/speak Japanese Ryuu?

 

[ryuu seika]

I wish I was!
Or in other words, no, I only know about 8 Kanji, the "no" symbol and a few dumb phrases like "Watashi no hobakurafuto wa unagi de ippai desu".

If I could I'd probably be playing ToS on my PS2 instead of Legendia. Kaenrekku is just that awesome!

Are you?

 

[BladeOfHavoc]

I'm eventually going to learn Japanese, I would love to be able to understand some of the AWESOME Japanese tales of games.

 

[ryuu seika]

Agreed. Not knowing what's going on would such so I haven't bought any.

 

[BladeOfHavoc]

i would buy ToS for the PS2 first, just so I could hear Lloyd yell MAJINKEN! (no clue ow to spell) over and over again...

 

[ryuu seika]

Japanese is pretty much phonetic like that so that's the correct spelling.

It might be fun for a bit but the appeal of RPGs where you can't understand the story would wear off fast, even if it was a story I already knew. No, I play Soul Calibur Legends and various fangames for that.
"Majinken! Shouha! Majin Rengazan!" is better anyway.

 

[Minato]

I know enough Japanese to get a grasp of the story and dialogue in Tales games. Artes, equipment, and such are no problem for me.
Even before I learned Japanese, I didn't mind playing (non turn based) RPGs in another language.
My first Tales game was Phantasia and that was before the patch was out.

I still suggest finding a way to play ToD PS2 though. I love that game, and it's so worth it.

 

[ryuu seika]

Many people love ToD PS2 and make such suggestions. I don't see the point though as I know there is no way I'd enjoy it, even if it really is that great. RPGs are very story driven and it'd probably take me weeks to work out the menus and such (I'm really bad at that kind of thing).

 

[BladeOfHavoc]

I don't think I could play an RPG that I couldn't understand the story of either. Golden sun 3 was annoying enough on it's own! I would probably get a patch or look up translations and MEMORIZE them... My memory sucks =(

 

[Deleted member]

Tales of Symphonia was such a great game. I absolutely loved the "Staff Roll" music at the end.

I have yet to play the sequel on the Wii, though. Is it any good?

 

[Minato]

Many people love ToD PS2 and make such suggestions. I don't see the point though as I know there is no way I'd enjoy it, even if it really is that great. RPGs are very story driven and it'd probably take me weeks to work out the menus and such (I'm really bad at that kind of thing).

Yeah, that's true. If anything you could play through ToD PS1 first, but oh well, I guess it won't solve everything (like skits and such).
I do find ToD probably the most import friendly out of the series.

Tales of Symphonia was such a great game. I absolutely loved the "Staff Roll" music at the end.

I have yet to play the sequel on the Wii, though. Is it any good?

It's ok. The ToS fans really hate it since it wasn't as good as ToS. It's made by a different team, so if you don't expect much out of it, you'll find some enjoyment in the game. Dawn of the World is really a spin off, so that should give you a good idea on how it is compared to ToS.

 

[Deleted member]

It's ok. The ToS fans really hate it since it wasn't as good as ToS. It's made by a different team, so if you don't expect much out of it, you'll find some enjoyment in the game. Dawn of the World is really a spin off, so that should give you a good idea on how it is compared to ToS.

Thanks for the info! I've heard a lot of hate for the game, so I wouldn't have high expectations to start with. Still think I would like it, though.

 

[BladeOfHavoc]

You can only play with the Wiimote and Nun-chuck, doesn't sound like FLUID controls in the slightest!

 

[ryuu seika]

Yeah, that's true. If anything you could play through ToD PS1 first, but oh well, I guess it won't solve everything (like skits and such).

I've already beaten ToD PS1 once but I'm going to have to redo it at some point for the good ending. You can see my final battle here.

You can only play with the Wiimote and Nun-chuck, doesn't sound like FLUID controls in the slightest!

It could have been fluid if they'd used well done wiimote controls instead of the normal arte inputs or something but they didn't. They had arte shortcuts assigned to motions but they didn't work. In short, they should have stuck with the good old GC controller (and game IMO).

 

[Minato]

I've already beaten ToD PS1 once but I'm going to have to redo it at some point for the good ending. You can see my final battle here.

I am a little disappointed they took that out of the PS2 remake. Although I am glad at the other changes they made story-wise.

 

[ryuu seika]

Took it out? Aww. I wanted to know what happened if you killed Stahn...

 

[BladeOfHavoc]

How many endings are there for that game (unedited version)?

 

[Minato]

Took it out? Aww. I wanted to know what happened if you killed Stahn...

Huh? Don't you mean Leon? And it's not like you really kill him in that premature ending. You only just beat him.

How many endings are there for that game (unedited version)?

PS1 version had 2. That fight with Leon is way way early in the game, so it's just a joke/fun ending.
The remake has one ending while the Directors Cut of the Remake has 2 (one for Stahn's and one for Leon's).

 

[BladeOfHavoc]

At least you don't get your endings like in Tales of Symphonia 2. One wrong words and you get the bad ending.

 

[ryuu seika]

Huh? Don't you mean Leon?

No, I mean Stahn. I've already seen what happens when you kill Leon but I wanted to know what would happen if I did that again as Leon in DC.

 

[BladeOfHavoc]

Is ToD worth buying? Do you get fluid controls and a bunch of different characters?

 

[ryuu seika]

On the PS1, you get gameplay similar to the early versions of ToP with useless AI and really bad translation. The translation issue is then ,made even worse by leaving the japanese voices in so that you can hear exactly how the spells should have been translated (most spells are named in english in the JP versions).

The cast consists of ten characters, one of the largest in the series, though I never met them all. Each character has a decent tech list and their own individual style of play as regards melee combat, as well as most of them learning spells. Which element of spells each character learns is in theory up to the player, though I couldn't get them to learn anything but their defaults.

It's quite dull IMO and generally considered one of the worst tales games, mostly due to its lacking battle system. This is part of why the remakes receive such praise, as there is nothing wrong with the rest of the game.

 

[BladeOfHavoc]

Is it multiplayer? I would rather not have any useless people standing around on my team, or as few as possible.

 

[ryuu seika]

Multiplayer is activated via the use of an item found very early on (called "channeling") that takes up one of your two accessory slots. I'm not sure if you can get more than one of the item so it may be limited to two player.

IIRC the remakes have regular multiplayer.

 

[BladeOfHavoc]

Sounds fun, I might get it when I get the chance. But, Tales of the Abyss comes first.

 

[ryuu seika]

Of course.
I'd wait and see if the 3DS version will come over though as the loading times on the PS2 Abyss are insane.

 

[BladeOfHavoc]

I've seen gameplay and the loading screens... They take half of the gameplay time on their own! Thankfully, Symphonia was on a faster system, the gamecube, and you didn't have to wait for your daily dose of awesome.

 

[ryuu seika]

Yep. It wasn't too bad with Legendia but TotA was a real pain. The port to cartridge format should fix pretty much all the issues the american version of Abyss has so I do hope it makes it over here.

 

[Minato]

Yeah, Abyss's load times are longer than other Tales games. I didn't have an issue with it though, luckily.
It's pretty decent compared to most games, imo.