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Ridley doesn't feel like a fighter to me tbh. He's better as a boss character like he currently imo
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I'm going to respectively disagree. Ridley can be a fighter and a boss. His role in the Metroid series should not dictate whether he can be playable or not, it's if the development team can make him work (this can depend on circumstances that aren't necessarily to do with his design, including time restrictions, hardware limitations (which it shouldn't be a problem for the Nintendo Switch), model problems and mishaps in development, etc). Ridley is more of a fighter than characters such as Villager, Wii Fit Trainer, and Mr. Game & Watch, who Sakurai has taken creative liberty to change in order for them to "fit in" the games.Ridley doesn't feel like a fighter to me tbh. He's better as a boss character like he currently imo
Well for one, Ridley is much more of a "character" than a random, nameless Metroid.Playing devil's advocate here, what makes you guys want ridley, as opposed to one of the many stages of the Metroid, something the series is named for? I could see Zeta Metroid as a healthy alternative, and Prime 4 is coming out soon anyway.
The features are obviously very Yoshi-like, but the attacks could be gritty and realistic. Plus, size is shown to be irrelevant in this case.
You just suggested the equivalent of adding a Hammer Bro.Playing devil's advocate here, what makes you guys want ridley, as opposed to one of the many stages of the Metroid, something the series is named for? I could see Zeta Metroid as a healthy alternative, and Prime 4 is coming out soon anyway.
The features are obviously very Yoshi-like, but the attacks could be gritty and realistic. Plus, size is shown to be irrelevant in this case.
Because that is a nameless enemy with no personality, motivation, or story. It wouldn't be a good tribute to Metroid (smash is, after all, about Nintendo all stars). The fact you fight several makes it less special as wellPlaying devil's advocate here, what makes you guys want ridley, as opposed to one of the many stages of the Metroid, something the series is named for? I could see Zeta Metroid as a healthy alternative, and Prime 4 is coming out soon anyway.
The features are obviously very Yoshi-like, but the attacks could be gritty and realistic. Plus, size is shown to be irrelevant in this case.
Zeta Metroid would be fun actually now that I think about it.Playing devil's advocate here, what makes you guys want ridley, as opposed to one of the many stages of the Metroid, something the series is named for? I could see Zeta Metroid as a healthy alternative, and Prime 4 is coming out soon anyway.
The features are obviously very Yoshi-like, but the attacks could be gritty and realistic. Plus, size is shown to be irrelevant in this case.
Just as an FYI:Yeah, once you deal enough damage, the baby will latch on to him (not talking about the cutscene where it saves Samus). The timing is very tight, and unless you are prepared, you will mess up.
But yeah, his command grab deals a ton of damage, I think it's the most damaging attack in the game tbh.
As for diggernaut, he's a primelike boss in a 2D game. He's not a damage sponge like every previous 2D boss, but more of a puzzle. The only difference is, you cannot scan him like in the primes, so it takes more attention to detail.
Diggernaut destroyed me, died more to him than anyone else. My problem was, phase 3, had one more spot to bomb, but every time he would stick his head out, I couldn't bomb him when the blue lights lined up. He'd constantly electrify himself. I had to strategically "wait" for him, in order to change the pattern, and give myself an opportunity to hit him. Definitely the most original 2D boss in a long time
In the off hand chance Ridley does make it in, I will be sorely disappointed if his final smash isn't exactly like what you just described.I guess others weren't kidding when they said that normal missiles don't affect Ridley at all in MSR. Even when I melee countered him toward the end of my earlier speedrun when I was out of super missiles and Aeion energy and used regular missiles during the Samus attack animation, they just bounced right off of him. :u
Continuing from the Proteus Ridley moveset stuff posted earlier, I suppose one cool thing to see as a final smash would be when he blocks Samus's attacks with his cybernetic arm as he's flying toward her and grabs and throws her at a wall, then pinning her down on the ground. As a final smash, it would be say, a medium range dash attack with projectile immunity, pins the opponents down and blasts them away with a super version of his purple fire energy at point-blank, and maybe during the attack animation, you faintly hear the announcer or someone in the background saying "Vengeance has a name"...
I guess others weren't kidding when they said that normal missiles don't affect Ridley at all in MSR. Even when I melee countered him toward the end of my earlier speedrun when I was out of super missiles and Aeion energy and used regular missiles during the Samus attack animation, they just bounced right off of him. :u
Continuing from the Proteus Ridley moveset stuff posted earlier, I suppose one cool thing to see as a final smash would be when he blocks Samus's attacks with his cybernetic arm as he's flying toward her and grabs and throws her at a wall, then pinning her down on the ground. As a final smash, it would be say, a medium range dash attack with projectile immunity, pins the opponents down and blasts them away with a super version of his purple fire energy at point-blank, and maybe during the attack animation, you faintly hear the announcer or someone in the background saying "Vengeance has a name"...
xD I have to second this! How much I wish I was skillful enough to illustrate a sequence of that Final Smash.In the off hand chance Ridley does make it in, I will be sorely disappointed if his final smash isn't exactly like what you just described.
I really do like that sequence, it gives Ridley a distinct ferocity compared to other bosses, which is fitting for that type of antagonist.
Don't talk **** about BonkersYou just suggested the equivalent of adding a Hammer Bro.
Or in Kirby terms.
Bonkers.
A hard but unimportant enemy that isn't that special.
Not a logical comparison. Yeah I think Ridley should be playable, but Olimar isn't relevant.if olimar can be a fighter ridley can be a fighter
Yeah, and thanks. For the longest time, the go-to idea for his Final Smash was generally just transforming into Meta Ridley, but now I think he has plenty to work with from source material for a non-transformation FS. The transformation FS idea's just been popular with him I guess because of the other villains like Bowser and Ganondorf having transformation-based ones of their own. I'd be fine with that too still, but would prefer one that's more original for him.In the off hand chance Ridley does make it in, I will be sorely disappointed if his final smash isn't exactly like what you just described.
I really do like that sequence, it gives Ridley a distinct ferocity compared to other bosses, which is fitting for that type of antagonist.
That looks surprsingly good. What about trying a blue, like Neo Ridley? That, or perhaps something remniniscent of his Zero Mission artwork which is green IIRC.Yeah, and thanks. For the longest time, the go-to idea for his Final Smash was generally just transforming into Meta Ridley, but now I think he has plenty to work with from source material for a non-transformation FS. The transformation FS idea's just been popular with him I guess because of the other villains like Bowser and Ganondorf having transformation-based ones of their own. I'd be fine with that too still, but would prefer one that's more original for him.
I'm sure this was just a homage to how plenty bosses in the older 2D's turned more red the lower their health became, but I've been diggin the red Ridley the more I've replayed since it reminds you of him in the Super Metroid art, minus the remaining cybernetics.
On that note, what are some other good color/palette swap alternates for Proteus Ridley?
I can't see it.
Go into advanced options, deselect "prefer HTML5 over Flash" and then you'll see. If you still have trouble after that I'll say.I can't see it.
Darn Chrome hating Adobe Flash...
What's it showing?
Homestar Runner has teaser of their Halloween toons every year, showing the characters in silhouette, allowing you to guess who's dressed as who. Strong Bad however, always has a fake out costume. One year it was the Xenomorph, another it was a bug from Starship Troopers. This year, he's everyone's favorite purple space pirate. He even flies Mode 7 style in the full animation.What...
Ridley's silhouette?
That's random...
What does that mean...
So it's just a funny random thing?Homestar Runner has teaser of their Halloween toons every year, showing the characters in silhouette, allowing you to guess who's dressed as who. Strong Bad however, always has a fake out costume. One year it was the Xenomorph, another it was a bug from Starship Troopers. This year, he's everyone's favorite purple space pirate. He even flies Mode 7 style in the full animation.
Metroid? In my Homestar Runner? I have no objections to that. Homestar Runner was part of my Internet childhood back in the day. Nice to see them back in swing after their hiatus.Homestar Runner has teaser of their Halloween toons every year, showing the characters in silhouette, allowing you to guess who's dressed as who. Strong Bad however, always has a fake out costume. One year it was the Xenomorph, another it was a bug from Starship Troopers. This year, he's everyone's favorite purple space pirate. He even flies Mode 7 style in the full animation.
Zero Mission is easier than the other bosses yeah.So for the past 2 months I've started playing the Metroid series for the first time. I played through Zero Mission and recently Samus Returns. Enjoyed both games, but I gotta ask. Was Ridley always such an easy boss? In both games other bosses gave me a hard time, but I took Ridley down in my first try. They're not bad boss fights, I quite enjoyed the Proteus fight. But still, Ridley is surprisingly easy to take down despite his legacy. I hope it doesn't continue with the later games that I play.
Still want him for Smash, He's incredibly disproportional but We've seen Sakurai play with sizes and proportions before. Ridley's a character I'd like to make a moveset for, if only for the challenge of dealing with his size..
That's appropriate with the fact of how late Ridley traditionally shows up into those games. You're always super decked out with weapons and nearly a ****ing tank with your suits and energy tanks taken into account so not very much is really able to even slow you down by the point. Even in Super where he's considered his hardest (besides maybe Fusion) you're still able to tank massive amounts of damage throughout the fight. So it's not necessarily that he's easy it's that, by that point, you should be about as powerful as you can possible get.So for the past 2 months I've started playing the Metroid series for the first time. I played through Zero Mission and recently Samus Returns. Enjoyed both games, but I gotta ask. Was Ridley always such an easy boss? In both games other bosses gave me a hard time, but I took Ridley down in my first try. They're not bad boss fights, I quite enjoyed the Proteus fight. But still, Ridley is surprisingly easy to take down despite his legacy. I hope it doesn't continue with the later games that I play.
People want Ridley. Not some pseudo-Ridley thing.there is also the option of leaving ridley as a boss and include a modified baby ridley that looks more rike ridley as a fighter instead.
Samus' greatest nemesis makes a return in this game to put a stop to her Metroid eradication. It was Proteus Ridley, Mother Brain, and the Space Pirates that harnessed Metroids for evil during Samus' first mission, and they clearly found it to their liking. Proteus Ridley's not about to allow Samus to wipe out such a formidable source of power and an equally devastating weapon - not without a fight.
Man this beast is terrifying. Updated to OP. About to update Samus Returns info too.
Secondly, A Distant Demon , I've updated the appearances list.
I still update it now and again.Man this beast is terrifying. Updated to OP. About to update Samus Returns info too.
yeah the only Metroid that would work would be the Metroid Queen, or maybe Metroid Prime or Mother BrainYou just suggested the equivalent of adding a Hammer Bro.
Or in Kirby terms.
Bonkers.
A hard but unimportant enemy that isn't that special.