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VIC BOSSIf sakurai wants a character in, he will get them in.
Kojima's, duh.It was always pretty nuts that his look in Brawl was based off the Twin Snakes look.
Wonder who's decision that was..
But I can't see why he would be against Snakes MGS twin snakes look though.Kojima's, duh.
That's because PS1 MGS1 Snake look is iconic, it is the Snake look. MGS2 Snake look is just as familiar because of brawl. That's what happened with TP Zelda, she got in brawl and now everyone knows TP Zelda, now she's in smash 4...But I can't see why he would be against Snakes MGS twin snakes look though.
We have seen PS1 MGS1 snake everywhere.
See there is no problem, add the vest and, BOOM, you have Twin Snakes version of Snake.That's because PS1 MGS1 Snake look is iconic, it is the Snake look. MGS2 Snake look is just as familiar because of brawl. That's what happened with TP Zelda, she got in brawl and now everyone knows TP Zelda, now she's in smash 4...
If I asked one random friend who had never actually played Metal Gear but knew of Metal Gear who the main character was they would go, "dude in gray catsuit with beard."
And they would mean:
This gray catsuit.
In the Twin Snake's Snake had a Clean Cut in MGS2 he didn't. In Brawl Snake was a "Hybrid" of both Solid/BigBoss it wouldn't look right on his TS look.See there is no problem, add the vest and, BOOM, you have Twin Snakes version of Snake.
I started with MGS2.I know this is a bit of a turbulent time but... If I was looking to get into the MGS series which games (and in what order) should I play them?
I played original MGS1, then MGS2, MGS3, and then MGS4, all of which came in the legacy collection. Personally, MGS1 is my favorite, so I would recommend not skipping it, but you can just read the plot if you really don't want to play it since it's kind of dated. I wouldn't play Twin Snakes as a stand in for MGS1 though, because they are so different. I also played Peace Walker, but that isn't important unless you're going to play MGSV, but even then you can skip it since they'll probably fill players in on what happened in that game.I know this is a bit of a turbulent time but... If I was looking to get into the MGS series which games (and in what order) should I play them?
Twin Snakes isn't that different, same story but with matrix like cutscenes, re recorded voice acting, mgs2 mechanics, and updated graphics. It isn't a bad substitute for the PlayStation one. I only played twin snakes, and still understand the story pretty well.I played original MGS1, then MGS2, MGS3, and then MGS4, all of which came in the legacy collection. Personally, MGS1 is my favorite, so I would recommend not skipping it, but you can just read the plot if you really don't want to play it since it's kind of dated. I wouldn't play Twin Snakes as a stand in for MGS1 though, because they are so different. I also played Peace Walker, but that isn't important unless you're going to play MGSV, but even then you can skip it since they'll probably fill players in on what happened in that game.
Basically, MGS1, then MGS2, MGS3 , and MGS4 (order they were released) or MGS3, MGS1, MGS2, and MGS4 (order in which they take place)
Go by the Official Timeline!I started with MGS2.
Don't start with MGS2.
MGS 1 or 3 is usually a pretty good place to start in the series.
the first one on the nes is kinda canon, as its story is the same as msx. Snake's revenge isn't.Go by the Official Timeline!
MGS3
Portable Ops
Peace Walker
GZ
Phantom Pain
MSX2 Games
MGS1
MGS2
MGS4
MGR
And for the fun of it play the NES games and Ghost Babel! btw is the NES games cannon?
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Yeah, I love Twin Snakes, but it's kind of like the super blockbuster version (even more of a blockbuster movie than MGS1 was) of MGS1, with rerecorded lines that intentionally sound cheesy or bad. Again, I love it, and I wish that was what Nintendo would get from Kojima- remakes of his games that are even more over the top than the originals.Twin Snakes isn't that different, same story but with matrix like cutscenes, re recorded voice acting, mgs2 mechanics, and updated graphics. It isn't a bad substitute for the PlayStation one. I only played twin snakes, and still understand the story pretty well.
I agree though if he does not mind dated graphics then he should play the PlayStation version.
Yeah, I feel like nintendo should go for more metal gear games on their platforms. The absence of of some of the metal gear games is kinda also nintendo's fault. They go for resident evil and sonic, and those have a good fanbase on nintendo. It seems like they go for metal gear( snake eater 3d,twin snakes, and maybe the game that the debug menu was referring too?) A good fanbase for this game can be built on nintendo platforms.Yeah, I love Twin Snakes, but it's kind of like the super blockbuster version (even more of a blockbuster movie than MGS1 was) of MGS1, with rerecorded lines that intentionally sound cheesy or bad. Again, I love it, and I wish that was what Nintendo would get from Kojima- remakes of his games that are even more over the top than the originals.
I'm still trying to find that petition. Anyone got a link?Yeah...this back of the box thing is blowing up in the Smash Community way too much. Hopfully something can put a fork in it soon, whether that'd be a Shulk reveal so Monolith Soft gets credited, or.... Snake.
There's a petition you can sign to help convince Konami to approve of it (check the video description of the trailer in the article). I was saddened by the news too especially when Konami seemed like they approved of it. The worse part is Kojima seems to be interested in another MGS1 remake instead of the original MG games...
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What Petition?I'm still trying to find that petition. Anyone got a link?
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well i would hope they record entire new lines instead of reusing brawl ones (and please use david hayter)Hey guys i've been curious about something...
Would they re-use the same old codecs from SSBB for all of the returning characters or make slightly new ones?
Also what would they do for some of the new characters? I got my own versions of each but I want to hear your's first.
Also, Big Boss Codecs?
I don't recommend you play in chronological order. You miss out on some nice nods to previous entries and you'll probably end up hating the controls to MGS1 because you'd be so used to Snake Eater's and PP.Go by the Official Timeline!
MGS3
Portable Ops
Peace Walker
GZ
Phantom Pain
MSX2 Games
MGS1
MGS2
MGS4
MGR
And for the fun of it play the NES games and Ghost Babel! btw is the NES games cannon?
It's easier to understand the story better it starts out as Naked Snake a Fallen Legend fell from glory and became a villain and Solid Snake stopped himI don't recommend you play in chronological order. You miss out on some nice nods to previous entries and you'll probably end up hating the controls to MGS1 because you'd be so used to Snake Eater's and PP.
Anyway, about that leak, I heard that the DLC part is false. If that's true, I not only lost my favorite Brawl character, I also lost one of my favorite Melee characters (assuming the leak is true).
well i mean, considering hes already been in brawl and the codec lines have mostly been "snake, watch out! thats mario! hes dangerous!" etc, it could be snake and colonel/otacon joking with each other about that character, like how cute pikachu is or something. it couldnt be that hard to come up with something new@Iob
But what new lines could they do for the returning characters from brawl?
I thought the person who leaked the dlc part was the same person who leaked the pictures, he even confirmed it.I don't recommend you play in chronological order. You miss out on some nice nods to previous entries and you'll probably end up hating the controls to MGS1 because you'd be so used to Snake Eater's and PP.
Anyway, about that leak, I heard that the DLC part is false. If that's true, I not only lost my favorite Brawl character, I also lost one of my favorite Melee characters (assuming the leak is true).
If that leak was true then all characters would have the same shading, and have no misconstruities.I thought the person who leaked the dlc part was the same person who leaked the pictures, he even confirmed it.
I'm not sure anymore man, somethings are giving this leak credibility and something aren't, I was cool with it until I found out one of the leakers said the dlc was fake and mods saying it's not solid.If that leak was true then all characters would have the same shading, and have no misconstruities.
For example: Ganondorf has a darker shading than every other character, and for the latter Game & Watches hand is sticking out of his character box, a misconstruity.
I'm basing it all on the next Direct(whenever the hell that is). We'll know his fate then for sure this is just another "Leak" until I see a character with the same exact art as this leak then, and only then, will I credit it as true.I'm not sure anymore man, somethings are giving this leak credibility and something aren't, I was cool with it until I found out one of the leakers said the dlc was fake and mods saying it's not solid.
I'm scared, I just want snake....
I just want something to pop up that increases snake's chances, like rokovoj bereg appearing in a potd or a credible image leak with snake in it, or the dlc leak being confirmed, or a metal gear being in shulk's trailer or something.I'm basing it all on the next Direct(whenever the hell that is). We'll know his fate then for sure this is just another "Leak" until I see a character with the same exact art as this leak then, and only then, will I credit it as true.
Shulk's trailer would be the best thing EVER Snake's fighting and having trouble with a Metal Gear (probably RAY) and then Shulk Monado Busters it to pieces, the both of them start fighting off hordes of Mechon...I just want something to pop up that increases snake's chances, like rokovoj bereg appearing in a potd or a credible image leak with snake in it, or the dlc leak being confirmed, or a metal gear being in shulk's trailer or something.
I hope the next direct has some good news.
omg i love thisI'm just going to leave my ideas here for Snake's codec for the newcomers. I hope I did good enough for you guy's love ;~;
----VILLIGER----
Snake: Colonel theres a civilian here!
Campbell: thats no civilian Snake, thats The Villager.
Snake: Villager?
Campbell: He’s an unknown fighter from his hometown. His moves might not look like much but he packs some serious fighting power under that smile of his.
Sanke: I guess I’ll have to out FOX him then.
----MEGAMAN----
Otacon: Ohhh thats Megaman!
Snake: Mega who?
Otacon: Mega man! The super fighting robot himself here in Smash Brothers?! Oh boy I hope I can see him in action!
Snake: You won’t be able to if you don’t stop yelling into my ears.
Otacon: oh! Sorry Snake….
Snake: I’ll bring him back after the match just for you Otacon...just no more screaming.
Otacon: Your the best Snake!
Snake: first Mei Ling and now you….
----WII FIT TRAINER----
Snake: hmmmm….
Otacon: Whats wrong Snake? Is it Wii Fit Trainer?
Snake: ……
Otacon: Don’t tell me you're scared of her! Most of her moves just consist of her fitness moves so you don’t have much to worry about.
Snake: Its not that….After seeing the way she moves and bends…
Otacon: Snake no! this is a kids-!
Snake: Its made me relizes how out of shape I am.
Otacon: What?!
Snake: What else did you think I was talking about?
Otacon: O-Oh! nothing Snake...Otacon out!
Snake: Whats his problem?
----ROSALINA & LUMA----
Mei Ling: It looks like you're going up against Rosalina now Snake.
Snake: Another one of these Princesses? She seems to be more like a goddess if you ask me.
Mei Ling: Rosalina is the Princess protector of all of the Cosmos Snake, of course she would look like that.
Snake: The Cosmos? Just her?
Mei Ling: Not just her Snake, she is also the adoptive mother of the Lumas. They’re cute little baby stars.
Snake: So that explains the fluff ball running around next to her…
Mei Ling: Her and her Lumas fight together when she needs them, So I suggest you know how to keep your head in the game Snake.
Snake: Got It.
----LITTLE MAC----
Snake: This guy knows how to throw a few punches…
Campbell: Thats Little Mac Snake, he currently holds the title WVBA (World Video Boxing Association) World Circuit Champion!
Snake: World Champion huh? So if that means I beat him here does that mean I’ll become champion?
Campbell: Well, this isn’t a registered WVBA match up Snake. But I’m sure they’ll take notice of you after you beat Little Mac here.
Snake: Now I have all the more reason to win this. *Chuckle*
Campbell: Don’t get too cocky out there Snake.
----GRENINJA----
Snake: Looks like I can’t escape ninjas forever….
Otacon: Whats that Snake?
Snake: It seems on every mission I go on theres always a Ninja or two waiting to test me.
Otacon: What makes you say that Snake?
Snake: This is Greninja, the water ninja pokemon. It excels at making high powered water attacks and using it’s speed to it’s advantages.
Otacon: Hey! I’m the one who’s supposed to give the advice here!
Snake: Sorry Otacon, but when it comes to knowing about Ninjas theres no one better than me.
----PALUTENA---- (( I don't know much about her so sorry if isn't all that good >( ))
Mei Ling: Hey Snake, have you ever heard of the Chinese proverb “It is better to Light the Candle than to curse the Darkness.” ?
Snake: I might have heard it somewhere.
Mei Ling: Palutena once ruled over the land with her co-ruler Medusa. Palutena used her light powers to bring crops and warmth to the humans of the world. But Medusa hated them and used her power to destroy everything Palutena worked so hard for.
Snake: Conflicting sides in the government always seems to bring something bad.
Mei Ling: She banished Medusa and turned her into an evil snake lady...well she was already pretty evil but she became more evil.
Mei Ling: So watch out Snake, Palutena might be down here with us mortals but she won’t hold back on any of her more powerful moves.
----PAC-MAN----
Snake: Isn’t that ‘the’ Pac-man?
Campbell: Thats right Snake, Pac-man is the oldest character in Smash Brothers right now next to Game and Watch.
Campbell: And ever since his debut he hasn’t missed a single chance to become more popular in the eye of the public.
Sanke: Sounds like someone needs to take him down a notch.
Campbell: Thats what we’re here to do Snake, ready to prove that age doesn’t mean anything in combat?
Snake: Yes Sir!
----LUCINA----
Snake: This girl fights like Marth, is she his daughter or something?
Mei Ling: Not quite Snake but you're pretty close.
Mei Ling: Lucina comes from a timeline where the fell dragon, Grima, was revived by a selfish act for power by one of her Father’s most trusted allies.
Snake: Its not easy growing up like that….I should know.
Mei Ling: After her father’s death and Grima’s undead armies marched onto the world she took up her father’s sword and the mantle that marth’s legend. She used her guise to rally her remaining troops to small victories against Grima.
Snake: Sounds like she’s been through alot and she uses that training to fight with every swing of that sword but…
Mei Ling: But….?
Snake: Its obvious her emotions would cloud what she is truly fighting for, peace. If you let your emotions cover your ideals then you get side tracked and make mistakes trying to reach your true goal.
Mei ling: Wow Snake...that was really profound.
Snake: I’ve seen it happen to good men and women before….i’d rather not see it again.
----ROBIN----
Campbell: How are you holding up Snake?
Snake: Colonel, what can you tell me about Robin?
Campbell: Robin is the tactician for Prince Chrom’s militia “The Shepards”. It’s their duty to protect the halidom of Ylisse from threats such as bandits.
Snake: a self run militia huh?
Campbell: That right Snake, Robin is said to be the smartest tactician there is next to Mark. He can sum up an opponent just by looking at them and formulate a strategy to take them down the next glance.
Snake: I’ll make sure to stay out of his range of sight then.
Campbell: He’s a good fighter Snake, he fights for what he dreams for a peaceful world that all of his friends can live in without the rule of the gods or fate to control their destinies.
Snake: The more you talk about him the more he sounds like Boss….
----END----