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The Solid Snake for Smash DLC thread! Such a lust for Smash news....WHOOOOOOOO?

zeldasmash

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Gosh, yeah, I'd love mii costumes along with Snake. Ocelot as a gunner and Gray Fox as a swordfighter would be amazing. What about brawler, though?
Volgin or Vulcan Raven? Oh lord, ARMSTRONG?
I think Liquid Snake would be a cool Brawler costume. As for Swordfighter, either Raiden or Gray Fox would do. Hell, Raiden & Gray Fox would be vice versa when it comes to costume and Assist Trophy. As for Gunner, so far Ocelot is the best choice, though Sniper Wolf or even Quiet would be cool (though Quiet is incredibly unlikely).
 

Cool Guy 36

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"I swear that all the controversy and misinformation about the "Konami Situation" could be written into a Metal Gear storyline..."

There is no Konami situation. Everything was planned years in advance. This was all a very long performance art piece by Kojima on the easily corruptible nature of information. What kind of reverse Warholian expedition...

True post-modern king :troll:

Cool Guy 36 Cool Guy 36 I mean to say where did you e-mail them? There was one like sales@konami.com (not exact) but that was on a page for corporate stuff so maybe that wasn't the best, woopsy

EDIT: “I hope re-purposing speculation and rumour as news isn’t the new standard.”
Oh my god, the shade. Su-Yina Farmer taking no prisoners. All this needs is some sassy emoji.

Oh, I was just recommend you that you can email to them with any email account, I just use Yahoo Email and that this one of them that you can use for email. Oh, if Konami isn't going to make any AAA console games from now on, then they can just make re releases and ports from now on and give the rights to use Snake for Smash 4 and future Smash Bros. games to Nintendo similar to
what Capcom keep making re releases for Mega Man and give the rights to use Mega Man for Smash Bros. It will be cool to see Snake to get an Amiibo like Ryu, he will be the first and only Rated M video game character to get one. If he return, they have to removed anything inappropriate and probably change his grabbed and grabbing animation.
 
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Oh, I was just recommend you that you can email to them with any email account, I just use Yahoo Email and that this one of them that you can use for email. Oh, if Konami isn't going to make any AAA console games from now on, then they can just make re releases and ports from now on and give the rights to use Snake for Smash 4 and future Smash Bros. games to Nintendo similar to
what Capcom keep making re releases for Mega Man and give the rights to use Mega Man for Smash Bros. It will be cool to see Snake to get an Amiibo like Ryu, he will be the first and only Rated M video game character to get one. If he return, they have to removed anything inappropriate and probably change his grabbed and grabbing animation.
So did you get a response or are you still waiting?
 

Cool Guy 36

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So did you get a response or are you still waiting?
No, I suggest people sending email to Nintendo and Konami so that this could increase his chance to be one of the Smash Ballot characters. KimKarsmashian sent an email to Konami about games for Nintendo consoles and didn't type about anything about Snake in Smash because he think that Konami wouldn't answer the question if he type that. Maybe one of you could try asking that question? Yea, I know it ok not responding but you try. Hopefully, maybe one of you will try putting that question in when sending an email to Nintendo and Konami. Maybe they will both respond that question and appreciate the support for Snake like the letter that one Roy fan send a letter to Nintendo. Oh, by the way I can't get the Wii Remotes to get on because I don't know where the charger and the batteries. I haven't been using my Wii a long time and this mean I can't play Brawl anymore and this is one of the reasons why I want a second chance to play as Snake. When he get in hopefully, this shut the haters' mouths up!
 
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KimKarsmashian

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I e-mailed Konami and haven't received a response yet.

I really wonder how the Konami thing is gonna turn out. It is worrying. It's annoying seeing people latch onto it to say "ha ha, Snake is out of the running!" when the future of the goshdang franchise is potentially at stake. I'm optimistic that the Konami thing will get resolved somehow and the respective properties will end up being used, but the present is worrying. Going outside this thread is generally bad news for a Snake supporter, lol, most everyone who doesn't want him back assumes he's done like a nice steak (*insert old 'steak eater' puns here*).
 

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When this thread started:

"We want Snake to return to Smash!"

This thread now:

"We want Snake to not completely disappear from gaming!"

Started from the top, now we here.

Brighter news, I'm updating the supporter list. I did this for Ice Climbers, too. I'm going backwards, I just finished page 181. This thread is long as *ahem*, so excuse the slow pace. I want it to be done before the ballot's done, though. 140 so far, but undoubtedly more. If you know someone not on this list who wants to be added, feel free to add them yourselves!

  1. Scoliosis Jones
  2. LIQUID12A
  3. Swampasaur
  4. IsmaR
  5. HylianHeroBigBoss
  6. KumaOso
  7. cool mario bros
  8. JamesDNaux
  9. CaptainCrisb
  10. Johnknight1
  11. thethirdkoopa
  12. Smooth Criminal
  13. Fuzzy Pickles!
  14. Knux27
  15. LousyTactician
  16. TheFirstPoppyBro
  17. Ekans647
  18. THE_MAAFIA
  19. billys_dad
  20. Jawmuncher
  21. berserker.
  22. ManlySpirit
  23. Frostwraith
  24. NonSpecificGuy
  25. JackerX
  26. chuckthesmashlover
  27. MacDaddyNook
  28. Nonno Umby
  29. Moon Monkey
  30. Zajice
  31. Sewnic
  32. Xevious 1
  33. Fpgi
  34. Zyfoe
  35. Wintropy
  36. Twin Shot
  37. BluePikmin11
  38. Chromvoy
  39. MaskO'Gears
  40. Nat Perry
  41. Amiiboshiibo
  42. Royvolution Ream
  43. Tino
  44. True Blue Warrior
  45. PushDustIn
  46. smashtriforce77
  47. BoltDragon
  48. FEEHEELINGGS...Wo Wo Wo
  49. Liberation
  50. Get Low
  51. Hexen Knight
  52. BSP
  53. IhaveSonar
  54. Ralph Cecil
  55. GoldenYuiitusin
  56. Gothrax
  57. ---
  58. G~P
  59. Cool Guy 36
  60. Pallex
  61. LightheartedBum
  62. AnonymousMoon
  63. FeenieTheTrite
  64. Nintenzilla
  65. Fire Rider
  66. Strider_Bond00J
  67. Speedwagon
  68. RegiGiygas117
  69. CardiganBoy
  70. Davidius
  71. MSmariosonic
  72. Skyfox2000
  73. 9Blades
  74. Mc.Rad
  75. MorbidAltruism
  76. Jaster
  77. ~Krystal~
  78. Ffamran
  79. Ezequieleste
  80. Mario123311
  81. FreezeGuy64
  82. Zeldasmash
  83. Megadoomer
  84. Jamesster445
  85. Cloud_Dreamer
  86. xWolfiex
  87. TMNTSSB4
  88. Geno Boost
  89. UberPyro64
  90. WwwWario
  91. PrettyIvyPearls22
  92. Mario15
  93. Rie Sonomura
  94. KevN くコ:彡
  95. Altais
  96. FalKoopa
  97. Yoship
  98. Rebellious Treecko
  99. Shadenexus18
  100. Dr.Megaman
  101. RosaPeach
  102. Ayasato
  103. IanTheGamer
  104. SSBCandidates
  105. KeybladePony
  106. **Gilgamesh**
  107. Logo12
  108. Troykv
  109. Crocodile19
  110. GalacticPetey
  111. MainJPW
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  113. zaiman12345
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  117. SMAASH! Puppy
  118. King Sonnn DeDeDoo
  119. PF9
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  125. Pelias26
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  128. Megane-for-life
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  130. Hero’s Shade
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  136. StormC
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  138. IkeChromMarth
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  140. Mightyno.M
Been awhile since I posted here, still supporting Snake of course.
You listed me twice in the supporters list :p
 

zeldasmash

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I just noticed i'm not in the supporter list. Please add me, Snake is the one out of all the DLC characters i want to see the most playable.
 

Cool Guy 36

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Time is running out guys.

As September is coming to an end real fast with the update coming on the 30th, Also the ballot is ending next month, we have to get millions and millions of supporters. I know we can do this. We can hope that Sakurai and Nintendo make Snake one of the pre-ballot characters or one of the ballot characters that way we do not need to be worry about Sakurai and Nintendo forgetting to bring him back in future Smash Bros. games. I really hope all of you taking all of my advices. Come on September 30th and Oct. 3rd bring in the hype! We will never give up guys! :snake: will be here soon!
 

Fire Rider

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Hi guys tomorrow or today night I'm gonna do the second tourney for Snake
I'm gonna do my best for promotionate this tourney and get more votes to Snake :snake:

When I finish please support me here on Smashboards
I going to promote the tourney on Facebook Smash groups on English and Spanish and even Twitter
And do some publicity like a pro-tourney
And maybe Etika can join us
:denzel::shadowmoses:

The name could be "Snake Memorial Tourney" from now until October 3 or 10 for get more hype
When I finish it I'm gonna post the tournament code
If you have more ideas please contact me now

Edit: You can find it now as "Snake Tourney II" on Smash Tourneys Online
 
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Cool Guy 36

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I think this is what all the Metal Gear content including Snake will might be getting if Snake return:

Snake with his 7 alts
Liquid Snake Mii costume for :4miibrawl:
Grey Fox Mii costume for :4miisword:
Ocelot Mii costume for :4miigun:

Shadow Moses Island stage for Wii U version

Groznyj Grad stage for 3DS version

Grey Fox as assist trophy

A couple of trophies for Metal Gear

I could see Snake trailer start off with the beeping sound when he start a Codec ( like his trailer in Brawl) after the Smash slash sound is hear (This is always hear when is a newcomer or a DLC veteran is about to be revealed.) after that Otacon talk to him that he was invited to go to join Smash Bros again. Snake accept it. After that Mario is fighting Sonic and suddenly Snake appear and say "Kept you waiting huh?" As the splash screen appear saying Snake Sneaks In!" After that footage of him going against several characters including Ryu was shown and after that he was done until Gray Fox who appear as a Mii and fight him. ( Similar to what Ryu trailer was about to end with Ryu about to fight Heihachi who appear as a Mii.) After that it end when the Super Smash Bros. 3DS/Wii U logo appear.

This could how Snake's trailer look like if he return.

Anyway thanks to those who came up with the Metal Gear costumes for the Gunner and Brawler. I think this is the most realistic idea what we can think about Snake and the other Metal Gear content in the near future. Please make this happen Sakurai! You the only one who can fulfill this dream again! Everybody including your friend Hideo Kojima will love you if you make this happen!
 
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Twin Shot

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Add me to the supporters - been here for a long while.

Fun Fact - My Avatar and Forum name are references to the NES exclusive Metal Gear boss that replaced the Hind in the original MG.

A super computer replaced the Metal Gear in that game as well because the NES wasn't as powerful as the MSX .



The community doesn't extend outside of the interwebs - so no worries. The thing to do is the Smash one is to dislike Snake - anything that can be used as an argument against his inclusion is becomes misconstrued and then exaggerated exponentially.

The Kojima "begging" thing is a prime example and one of my favorites. How rediculous are you to actually believe Kojima got on his knees and pleaded with all his heart and soul for him to be included in smash lol
 

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The community doesn't extend outside of the interwebs - so no worries. The thing to do is the Smash one is to dislike Snake - anything that can be used as an argument against his inclusion is becomes misconstrued and then exaggerated exponentially.

The Kojima "begging" thing is a prime example and one of my favorites. How rediculous are you to actually believe Kojima got on his knees and pleaded with all his heart and soul for him to be included in smash lol
That's the Smash community in a nutshell in regards to multiple characters. It's not exclusive to Snake sadly.
"Ugh not another FE character/swordsman!" being my absolute favourite argument against any character.
I can guarantee Raiden would face the "another swordsman" argument.
 

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Any chance that if they bring Shadow Moses Island stage back along with Snake, you think that Metal Gears REX, RAY and/or GEKKO would pop up as stage bosses, like Yellow Devil, Ridley and Metal Face?
 

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Any chance that if they bring Shadow Moses Island stage back along with Snake, you think that Metal Gears REX, RAY and/or GEKKO would pop up as stage bosses, like Yellow Devil, Ridley and Metal Face?
A boss hazard does take additional work, and the stages we've seen so far barring Mario Maker have been real simple. I think Shadow Moses would be a straight port.
 

MacDaddyNook

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Any chance that if they bring Shadow Moses Island stage back along with Snake, you think that Metal Gears REX, RAY and/or GEKKO would pop up as stage bosses, like Yellow Devil, Ridley and Metal Face?
I certainly hope not, Shadow Moses was perfect the way it was in Brawl and bosses jumping into the fray would ruin it. While I'm ok with the boss battle event in Smash Tour, they're just far too disruptive in normal matches. I would love to just have it unchanged on both the 3DS and Wii U versions.
 
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I will play on omega form shadow Moses most of the time. I need the MGS music to pump me up while I play.
 

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While I'm ok with the boss battle event in Smash Tour, they're just far too disruptive in normal matches.
You can flat-out ignore Metal Face while he sits there and yammers and there's a chance he won't attack you after leaving if he's not killed. Granted, that's not saying much, but still.

I personally find boss hazards fun, but that's just my opinion.
 

Cool Guy 36

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If any of you guys feel like emailing about Snake in Smash Bros to Nintendo and Konami, feel free to sent them! But you need to do it now because the ballot will end next week. I think you need to try guys. I'am pretty sure both Nintendo and Konami will love to see him return despite all the controversy issues of what going on now with Konami. Come on, don't be afraid! Just do it now!

Although, I say this to one that it is fine not responding but I feel like this could boost Snake's chance to return in Smash 4 as DLC. We will keep rooting for Snake! :snake: here we come!
 
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I hate how with the whole "5 Mario" thing from the Ryu & Ruy (I know it's wrong, but I like anagrams), there were 2 "unknown" Marios (Lucas, Roy, Ryo took up the first 3). It just makes me want to place Wolf & Snake in those two slots when it's fairly possible that's not the case.
 

Fire Rider

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I think that the 2 Mario slots are Non Ballot Characters (pre or post)
The non Ballot could be veterans or good-taste characters like the "smash unpopular" Ryu.

And the 1 or 2 winner(s) could be newcomers for not waste the Ballot selections on veterans
And for that reason and the long time for do a character they easily could do more slots for the winners
I don't really mind that in the first version of Smash (1.0) previous Mewtwo and Lucas DLC had added the 7 Mario slots.

Fitting perfectly with a DLC character pack 2 with 3 to 5 characters for early 2016, similar to DLC pack 2 of Mortal Kombat X.

And finally I think that Sakurai have a list for DLC previously planned and not only for characters cut from the original game but with the purpose of sell more games after the release and keep maintain the popularity of Smash until 2016 with the ballot stuff.
I think that Mewtwo and Lucas was not cut characters but characters specifically planned as DLC stars with Ryu and Roy.
Lucas was developed and maybe put with the only intention for be a good-sales-DLC.
http://www.sourcegaming.info/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Scan-Translation-3.png
Could be similar with Wolf and maybe Snake as non ballot characters.
 
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What is all this abot mario slots?
Well sometime between Lucas's announcement and his release, there was a datamine which leaked data for Roy & Ryu in victory themes and stage music (Suzaku). I don't remember if it was that same Datamine, but they also found that in the coding of the characters, there were 5 addtional character slots after MEW_TWO named Mario. It's pretty overwhelmingly obvious to think these are DLC characters with the first three being Lucas, Ryu, and Roy. Now there are two major sides to this whole thing-
-one is that those two remaining "Marios" are it, meaning we ONLY get two more characters with the obvious choice being from the ballot,
-the other side is that those two Marios are there because they had there work started and could easily add more.
I believe in the latter theory that we are getting two more pre-ballot DLC characters (newcomer or vet) before the ballot. I think it would be perfect for Snake & Wolf to take those two spots.
 

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Well sometime between Lucas's announcement and his release, there was a datamine which leaked data for Roy & Ryu in victory themes and stage music (Suzaku). I don't remember if it was that same Datamine, but they also found that in the coding of the characters, there were 5 addtional character slots after MEW_TWO named Mario. It's pretty overwhelmingly obvious to think these are DLC characters with the first three being Lucas, Ryu, and Roy. Now there are two major sides to this whole thing-
-one is that those two remaining "Marios" are it, meaning we ONLY get two more characters with the obvious choice being from the ballot,
-the other side is that those two Marios are there because they had there work started and could easily add more.
I believe in the latter theory that we are getting two more pre-ballot DLC characters (newcomer or vet) before the ballot. I think it would be perfect for Snake & Wolf to take those two spots.
Okay, thanks.
 

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When this thread started:

"We want Snake to return to Smash!"

This thread now:

"We want Snake to not completely disappear from gaming!"

Started from the top, now we here.

Brighter news, I'm updating the supporter list. I did this for Ice Climbers, too. I'm going backwards, I just finished page 181. This thread is long as *ahem*, so excuse the slow pace. I want it to be done before the ballot's done, though. 140 so far, but undoubtedly more. If you know someone not on this list who wants to be added, feel free to add them yourselves!

  1. Scoliosis Jones
  2. LIQUID12A
  3. Swampasaur
  4. IsmaR
  5. HylianHeroBigBoss
  6. KumaOso
  7. cool mario bros
  8. JamesDNaux
  9. CaptainCrisb
  10. Johnknight1
  11. thethirdkoopa
  12. Smooth Criminal
  13. Fuzzy Pickles!
  14. Knux27
  15. LousyTactician
  16. TheFirstPoppyBro
  17. Ekans647
  18. THE_MAAFIA
  19. billys_dad
  20. Jawmuncher
  21. berserker.
  22. ManlySpirit
  23. Frostwraith
  24. NonSpecificGuy
  25. JackerX
  26. chuckthesmashlover
  27. MacDaddyNook
  28. Nonno Umby
  29. Moon Monkey
  30. Zajice
  31. Sewnic
  32. Xevious 1
  33. Fpgi
  34. Zyfoe
  35. Wintropy
  36. Twin Shot
  37. BluePikmin11
  38. Chromvoy
  39. MaskO'Gears
  40. Nat Perry
  41. Amiiboshiibo
  42. Royvolution Ream
  43. Tino
  44. True Blue Warrior
  45. PushDustIn
  46. smashtriforce77
  47. BoltDragon
  48. FEEHEELINGGS...Wo Wo Wo
  49. Liberation
  50. Get Low
  51. Hexen Knight
  52. BSP
  53. IhaveSonar
  54. Ralph Cecil
  55. GoldenYuiitusin
  56. Gothrax
  57. ---
  58. G~P
  59. Cool Guy 36
  60. Pallex
  61. LightheartedBum
  62. AnonymousMoon
  63. FeenieTheTrite
  64. Nintenzilla
  65. Fire Rider
  66. Strider_Bond00J
  67. Speedwagon
  68. RegiGiygas117
  69. CardiganBoy
  70. Davidius
  71. MSmariosonic
  72. Skyfox2000
  73. 9Blades
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  75. MorbidAltruism
  76. Jaster
  77. ~Krystal~
  78. Ffamran
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  81. FreezeGuy64
  82. Zeldasmash
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  87. TMNTSSB4
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  90. WwwWario
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  95. Altais
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  98. Rebellious Treecko
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  100. Dr.Megaman
  101. RosaPeach
  102. Ayasato
  103. IanTheGamer
  104. SSBCandidates
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  106. **Gilgamesh**
  107. Logo12
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  110. GalacticPetey
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  113. zaiman12345
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  116. Guybrush20X6
  117. SMAASH! Puppy
  118. King Sonnn DeDeDoo
  119. PF9
  120. Ikke471
  121. MrHashshashin
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  123. DekuSWEG
  124. Jakenomad2.0
  125. Pelias26
  126. MTTR.Akter
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  128. Megane-for-life
  129. SleuthMechanism
  130. Hero’s Shade
  131. HakuryuVision
  132. Blue_Sword_Edge
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Umm, mind adding me? I've been here since page 6 (as KirbyKamikaze). Also sorry I haven't as active as I used to be. On top of Smashboards not updating me on this thread, I've had other RL obligations. But it's great to see all the enthusiasm, thanks Cool Guy 36 Cool Guy 36 . Now let's get Snake in Smash! HOO RAH!
 
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Well, only about 11 days remaining until the Smash ballot comes to an end. It won't be that long now.
 

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Yeah. It's incredible to see how far we've come. Hopefully this time our effort won't be for naught.
 

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It's been one hell of a roller coaster ride since the day the ballot began. But it's not over yet.
 

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Cool Guy 36

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If we are going to get codecs back, I think we might get some revised codecs about some veterans such as :4lucario: because he had Mega Evolution and Otacon could talk a little about his new final smash. They could talk about :4zss: Jet Boots, Snake's reaction to her boots like "Whoa, Otacon! Samus got new boots!" Maybe we will get them back if he return so we could get this codec for :4greninja:.

Snake: " Otacon, Who is this Pokemon?" Is that a tongue on its mouth?"

Otacon: "That's Greninja, Snake. Its remind me of one of my Japanese animes. Anyway yes, that a tongue in its mouth and it is also a scarf."

Snake: Ew. I wouldn't touch its tongue. That disgusting.

Otacon: Me too. I wouldn't touch its tongue. Anyway It can recovered by using Hydro Pump. But beware, it use Substitute which mean it disappear with a Substitute doll or a log which take its place before countering with a flying kick upon reappearance. That not the only move you should avoid. Greninja also use Water Shuriken and Shadow Sneak. But watch out of its Final Smash, its Final Smash is Secret Ninja Attack which its can trap one or more opponents by using its Mat Block move and overwhelm the opponents with multiple slashes, kicks, and palm strikes in front of the moon. After it done, it hit them with one final blow to sent him into the ground.

Snake: Ok, got it.

:4littlemac:

Snake: Otacon, who is this little guy with the green boxing gloves.

Otacon: That's Little Mac, don't get fool by his size because he is one tough guy.

Snake: He look easy to beat.

Otacon: Despite his size, he had beaten many opponents in the ring because Doc Louis trained him to be strong.
He can beat many opponents at the same time by doing Straight Lunge. When the Power Meter is fully charged, it turn into the KO uppercut which can sent the opponents up into the air. However beware, when he got the Smash Ball he transformed into Giga Mac which make him blow any other opponents out in one hit but doing Straight Lunge.

Snake: Look like he may not be easy to beat, Eh? We will see about this.
 
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