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[Cutie Gwen]

Meanwhile, I was thinking of Sheldon Plankton and I was like... what did he do? He loves his computer girl deep down.

Robot girls beware, be aware of what Nickelodeon Sheldon you're dating

 

[Pink Yoshi]

Sarcastic Chorus did a good video tearing into him, here’s the video link, but with the heinous stuff the show has him get away with doing, it’s amazing he didn’t become a supervillain. Dude’s a stalker and a ****ing incel, it’s creepy how realistic his behaviors and mindset can be, the writers couldn’t decide to keep him a punching bag or make him Jenny’s potential love interest and I hate his guts for it.

I also watched this video. I've only seen a few episodes of My Life as a Teenage Gary Robot, but I fully agree, keep that weirdass incel away from Robo-Spinel.

But at the start I was like "KEEP MARINETTE'S NAME OUTTA YOUR MOUTH!" Yes, the wax statue scene WAS creepy, and an example of the flaws that MLB does exhibit even despite its high points. But as someone who's watched all of MLB, Marinette's stalker tendencies are played much less grossly realistic than Sheldon's tendencies, she never comes across as an incel (or the female equivelant of such) and does genuinely want Adrien to be happy, and, what many stalker protagonists (IE Sheldon and Sierra) fail to do, SHE DEVELOPS PAST IT. Without spoiling too much, season 4 and 5's events show her stepping up to move past her tendencies to focus on her duties as Ladybug, while also confronting the trauma that caused her to develop these tendencies in the first place, and develops to become a better person overall and loses that stalker streak that made her infamous.

TL;DR: Marinette is who Sheldon wishes he was.

Did I mention that Miraculous Ladybug, despite its flaws, is a masterpiece and should be watched by everyone with a pulse?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Marinette is who Sheldon wishes he was.

Diversity win, Sheldon, the worst part of the show, is trans!


Sorry, I don't have anything to add to the Miraculous thing, I have an automatic hatred for anything that came from the french whether it deserves it or not

 

[Pink Yoshi]

Sorry, I don't have anything to add to the Miraculous thing, I have an automatic hatred for anything that came from the french whether it deserves it or not

I mean...

I get where your fears come from.

That said though, the French also made Totally Spies, so we can't hold their screw-ups against them TOO much.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I mean...
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I get where your fears come from.

That said though, the French also made Totally Spies, so we can't hold their screw-ups against them TOO much.

Oh no my reason for hating those cheese eating, wine guzzling, cigarette inhaling surrender dogs isn't cause of children shows, it's cause I'm partially fr*nch.

Totally Spies is one of those shows from my childhood I'm curious about rewatching, like say, Static Shock, but also it's infamy makes me go "Oh no I don't want to risk watching a psych evaluation for why I'm Like That"

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Nah biolizard is more fitting, it's what Shadow was 'meant' to be while having nice inplications for Gerald's character. Now, Biolizard is most likely based on Chaos, so having Chaos appear in say, Sonic 4?

I remember watching this a few years back and whenever Sheldon was on screen I thought "Damn, his VA was perfectly cast for this considering who Sheldon is"

Ok except the biolizard barely has an impact in its own game and has a pretty boring design for something that’s supposed to be the end all antagonist of the game.

Like, Shadow was SA2’s main villain. But we can’t have him turn into a big final boss monster so let’s have him fight a big lizard stuck on the end of a canon. It’s dumb.

 

[Pink Yoshi]

Totally Spies is one of those shows from my childhood I'm curious about rewatching, like say, Static Shock, but also it's infamy makes me go "Oh no I don't want to risk watching a psych evaluation for why I'm Like That"

Oh I already know that Totally Spies at least had a little influence in why I'm Like This. Not the weird kink stuff, but I think it's what helped to plant my initial fondness of feminine valley girl characters that, for worse or worse, has stuck with me into my adult years. Plus I just really like all the funky gadgets and the genuine wholesome friendship with the main girls. Kid me NEVER caught on to any of the, ahem, 'deeper things' with the show, I was just like "ooh funny spy show with cute girls go bop"

Though as much as MLB is one of the best family shows out there, if we're talking kids specifically, young kids should probably stick to the earlier seasons cuz WHEW the later seasons get DARK. And straight up, don't show Kaeloo to kids. Don't show Kaeloo to ANYONE cuz that show is the hottest of messes despite a few genuinely good jokes, and some of the "humor" is just downright disturbed in that show despite its "family" demographic

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Ok except the biolizard barely has an impact in its own game and has a pretty boring design for something that’s supposed to be the end all antagonist of the game.

Like, Shadow was SA2’s main villain. But we can’t have him turn into a big final boss monster so let’s have him fight a big lizard stuck on the end of a canon. It’s dumb.

Hard disagree, the Biolizard's existence has many interesting things to consider, it serves as a nice reflection of Shadow, who goes from a dude willing to destroy life to saving the planet compared to his prototype which goes through the opposite. The prototype for the ultimate life form is a lizard, which in real life sometimes have regenerative qualities. The whole 'ultimate life form' wasn't a weapon, it's something to be the best at not dying, which ties into Maria, a terminally ill child pretty much fated to die young. Biolizard's mutations however made it this hulking, destructive mess, constantly in pain and requiring life support, quite like how the genocidal Shadow is in severe emotional turmoil over the death of all the good in his life, but that obviously wouldn't heal his heart. But think about it, how did the Biolizard end up like that? From what we knew of Gerald in the game back when SA2 was all we had, Gerald was a kind man who wanted to improve the lives of everyone, so when he saw his creation become this monster, he let it live, he repurposed an area in the ark to let it stay alive when it was a danger to him and his fellow researchers as he was that strongly against killing. 50 years later, this beast is carrying on Gerald's will for the death of all mankind. Do you not find that insight to Gerald's character fascinating?

TLDR: The Biolizard serves as a foil to Shadow and an insight into the mind of Gerald.

 

[Wademan94]

I haven't seen MLAATR in forever so all this talk about Sheldon is bringing an entirely different character to mind.

Bazinga.

Both characters suck to me so yeah.

 

[TheMightyP]

Y'all ever think about how it's canon that Saiyans only like women that can verbally or physically kick their ass?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Y'all ever think about how it's canon that Saiyans only like women that can verbally or physically kick their ass?

Personally, I like to think Vegeta is just using the fact most of his race is dead to say "Oh no no no, I'm not into dominant women, the entire Saiyan race is" while Goku's not really bothered about what kind of women he likes but grew close to Chichi after she reminded him of his promise.

Btw speaking of liking women, I've gotta gush about Dandadan, the fact it actually cares about it's romance unlike pretty much every other battle shonen series makes Momo and Okarun's relationship so much more engaging than pretty much every other anime main guy and girl who hook up at the end. It's also neat how most of Dandadan's cast are women yet they don't try to do some stupid harem wish fulfillment despite Okarun having Okarizz, that alongside some rather uncomfortable topics being treated with genuine care makes it clear Tatsu genuinely respects women more than idk, Naruto man Kishimoto

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Hard disagree, the Biolizard's existence has many interesting things to consider, it serves as a nice reflection of Shadow, who goes from a dude willing to destroy life to saving the planet compared to his prototype which goes through the opposite. The prototype for the ultimate life form is a lizard, which in real life sometimes have regenerative qualities. The whole 'ultimate life form' wasn't a weapon, it's something to be the best at not dying, which ties into Maria, a terminally ill child pretty much fated to die young. Biolizard's mutations however made it this hulking, destructive mess, constantly in pain and requiring life support, quite like how the genocidal Shadow is in severe emotional turmoil over the death of all the good in his life, but that obviously wouldn't heal his heart. But think about it, how did the Biolizard end up like that? From what we knew of Gerald in the game back when SA2 was all we had, Gerald was a kind man who wanted to improve the lives of everyone, so when he saw his creation become this monster, he let it live, he repurposed an area in the ark to let it stay alive when it was a danger to him and his fellow researchers as he was that strongly against killing. 50 years later, this beast is carrying on Gerald's will for the death of all mankind. Do you not find that insight to Gerald's character fascinating?

TLDR: The Biolizard serves as a foil to Shadow and an insight into the mind of Gerald.

He’s still a weak as hell final boss. Most of what you’re talking about, if it was actually in the story and not in logs and supplemental material, if they actually talked about it and gave the biolizard proper buildup, would be cool.

But the creature barely has any buildup. You only see it twice before you fight the damn thing, and both times it’s just a picture of it. So while it has thematic connections to what’s happening the story doesn’t actually touch on them. As far as the average player is concerned it’s just a big lizard that’s in the way. And it just being stuck on the end of the eclipse canon like Winnie the Pooh stuck in rabbits hole makes for a stupid as heck final boss that would not be fun to see in live action on the big screen.

 

[Hex D. Jess]

Sorry, I don't have anything to add to the Miraculous thing, I have an automatic hatred for anything that came from the french whether it deserves it or not

Understandable, but for your consideration: Rayman

 

[TheMightyP]

I'm with Snake that Biolizard is kind of a lame final boss. I get why it's important, and yeah Rouge foreshadowed (heh) that there was another Ultimate Life Form but in terms of the actual character it just pops up and then gets killed via two of the worst boss fights in the series. All the backstory and lore came via later media.

With that said, I'm not down with Chaos showing up in Sonic 3, he has nothing to do with Gerald, Shadow, and Maria.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

He’s still a weak as hell final boss. Most of what you’re talking about, if it was actually in the story and not in logs and supplemental material, if they actually talked about it and gave the biolizard proper buildup, would be cool.

But the creature barely has any buildup. You only see it twice before you fight the damn thing, and both times it’s just a picture of it. So while it has thematic connections to what’s happening the story doesn’t actually touch on them. As far as the average player is concerned it’s just a big lizard that’s in the way. And it just being stuck on the end of the eclipse canon like Winnie the Pooh stuck in rabbits hole makes for a stupid as heck final boss that would not be fun to see in live action on the big screen.

Ok. But you want Chaos, a villain who has none of the narrative traits that make Biolizard work, but doesn't have what you're saying Biolizard lacks to make a final boss for Sonic 3. You know, the movie which had a trailer with Gerald at the end that blew everyone's minds? What's more fitting, Gerald using his old prototype to finish the job in the movie when he seems cornered to contrast Shadow's eventual change or to shove Chaos in there? Hell, Chaos could also be in a future movie to make Jim Carrey go "I'll finish what Pawpaw couldn't" by looking at Gerald's notes and learn about Chaos. Having the ark up it's ass to drag it to fulfill Gerald's final wish is also, again, a foil to Shadow, giving his all to fulfill Maria's final wish

All the backstory and lore came via later media.

Oh no I made sure to only include the stuff SA2 says or implies in that post, otherwise I'd mention the Sonadow Gens stuff about Maria and the Biolizard. I'm not saying it's like, top 5 Sonic villains or anything, far from it, but Biolizard's implied storytelling doesn't get enough love in a day and age where people obsess about lore in video games that games don't beat you in the head with a sledgehammer when you encounter the creature/character/location

 

[Noipoi]

Called the Biolozard
Is actually a salamander

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Im stuck at Patient First

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Understandable, but for your consideration: Rayman

Forgot to hit reply on this but Rayman isn't like, exceptionally good imo. I played an admittedly bad version of 1, 3 and 3GBA as a kid and sure, I had fun with the latter two, but I wouldn't particularly say they're special. Also felt bored playing Legends for an hour or so on Switch, Rabbids Go Home sweeps tbh

 

[TheMightyP]

Wow this year is almost over.

Crazy,

Forgot to hit reply on this but Rayman isn't like, exceptionally good imo. I played an admittedly bad version of 1, 3 and 3GBA as a kid and sure, I had fun with the latter two, but I wouldn't particularly say they're special. Also felt bored playing Legends for an hour or so on Switch, Rabbids Go Home sweeps tbh

but but legends and origins gave us big ***** fairies and that's gotta count for something.

idk only Rayman game I played was Raving Rabbids 2

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Wow this year is almost over.

Crazy,

but but legends and origins gave us big ***** fairies and that's gotta count for something.

idk only Rayman game I played was Raving Rabbids 2

Idk as a 14 year old I didn't like em in Ocarina of Time so I'm not gonna pretend that's a positive

EDIT: Wait what do you mean I first played OoT almost 13 years ago oh my god

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Took the dragon quest 3 vocation quiz. Got martial artist.

#MyDragonQuestVocation is Martial Artist! Take the quiz to find out yours: https://t.co/fVbEAbdHnG

— Jennifer Griel (@KombatLeaguer) November 24, 2024

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Took the dragon quest 3 vocation quiz. Got martial artist.

#MyDragonQuestVocation is Martial Artist! Take the quiz to find out yours: https://t.co/fVbEAbdHnG

— Jennifer Griel (@KombatLeaguer) November 24, 2024

Ayyy I'm a Gadabout

I get to become busted as hell after reaching level 20 lets gooooo

EDIT: Twitter is ****ed so Snake's post doesn't have the link, here's the quiz

Square Enix Quiz

dragonquest.square-enix-games.com

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Ok. But you want Chaos, a villain who has none of the narrative traits that make Biolizard work, but doesn't have what you're saying Biolizard lacks to make a final boss for Sonic 3. You know, the movie which had a trailer with Gerald at the end that blew everyone's minds? What's more fitting, Gerald using his old prototype to finish the job in the movie when he seems cornered to contrast Shadow's eventual change or to shove Chaos in there? Hell, Chaos could also be in a future movie to make Jim Carrey go "I'll finish what Pawpaw couldn't" by looking at Gerald's notes and learn about Chaos. Having the ark up it's ass to drag it to fulfill Gerald's final wish is also, again, a foil to Shadow, giving his all to fulfill Maria's final wish

Oh no I made sure to only include the stuff SA2 says or implies in that post, otherwise I'd mention the Sonadow Gens stuff about Maria and the Biolizard. I'm not saying it's like, top 5 Sonic villains or anything, far from it, but Biolizard's implied storytelling doesn't get enough love in a day and age where people obsess about lore in video games that games don't beat you in the head with a sledgehammer when you encounter the creature/character/location

I mean… I think that having the story and relationships being in the text is better than is being entirely subtextual.

And still, I don’t think having the biolizard as the final fight would be anywhere near as cool as the death egg robot and master emerald Eggman in Sonic 2. It just doesn’t have the wow factor.

 

[TheMightyP]

Lowkey want DQ3make and Brothership but I have way too many games to play/finish and lost of them are RPGs so hm...

Though if I wait, DQ3 will (maybe) go on sale. Though M&L will not so hm... which one do I pester my mom for...

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I mean… I think that having the story and relationships being in the text is better than is being entirely subtextual.

And still, I don’t think having the biolizard as the final fight would be anywhere near as cool as the death egg robot and master emerald Eggman in Sonic 2. It just doesn’t have the wow factor.

Disagree, but there's no truely 'correct' way of telling a story so we'll have to leave it at that. I just like being able to read between the lines to get more out of a fun story than at first glance and talking to others how we feel about certain aspects to get new perspectives or perhaps even newfound appreciation.

It really depends on how they choose to handle it, assuming it's in the film to begin with. But I wanna disagree on principle if Live and Learn gets used in that fight

 

[TheMightyP]

I feel like Chaos in Sonic 3 would make more sense if Amy was there and not Shadow.

But then again, maybe Amy will show up...

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I feel like Chaos in Sonic 3 would make more sense if Amy was there and not Shadow.

But then again, maybe Amy will show up...

How is Chaos more fitting for Amy? I'm struggling to imagine a narrative of the two and Amy's arc in SA1 really wouldn't work without some big changes for her movie debut but I love hearing people talk about how they think she would be handled in the movies

 

[Noipoi]

Wow this year is almost over.

Crazy,

but but legends and origins gave us big ***** fairies and that's gotta count for something.

idk only Rayman game I played was Raving Rabbids 2

Thick fairies aside, Origins and Legends are legitimately amazing 2D platformers.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

The rumor come out
I have to keep my wrist wraped or keep a wrist brace on for 3 weeks for my sprain to heal

 

[Noipoi]

I’m especially partial to monsters you could find in pockets

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Regardless of if it sucks or not, gonna go see Gladiator II on Tuesday with my dad and uncle as a means of getting out.

Definitely isn't gonna be as good as the first but I'll still give it a shot.

 

[TheMightyP]

How is Chaos more fitting for Amy? I'm struggling to imagine a narrative of the two and Amy's arc in SA1 really wouldn't work without some big changes for her movie debut but I love hearing people talk about how they think she would be handled in the movies

Tbh, just cause she was a part of the main cast of SA1 and has more of a connection to Chaos than Shadow does. That's really about it for me.

In terms of handling her, I would keep her role mostly the same without her over the top obsession with Sonic. Amy's always been a social butterfly so I imagine it wouldn't be tough for her to make friends with Team Sonic. As for why she's on earth... idk they can make something up. And Eggman sees her as weaker so he tries to capture her and she learns to stick up for herself, like she did in SA1.

Idk just spitballing here.

Thick fairies aside, Origins and Legends are legitimately amazing 2D platformers.

Maybe, but I wanted big ***** platforming girls, I would play a Wayforward game.

why yes I am single how could you tell

 

[Cutie Gwen]

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I’m especially partial to monsters you could find in pockets

Good ****, Monster Wranglers are lowkey kinda busted provided you have a sense of exploration. One of their skills scaling on monsters recruited means they'll always deal stupid good damage even if you reclass them to like, Priest, the support class. They add so much to the job system imo

 

[TheMightyP]

So I took the quiz twice.

Spoiler: Attempt 1

Spoiler: Attempt 2

Checks out, I do love my supports. Though I never used Rab in my DQ11 playthrough, but Serena never got benched.

Also, today I learned that Sylvando has a Wikipedia page.

 

[Pink Yoshi]

I think the one thing that concerns me about a Miraculous Ladybug theme park is the potential for spoilers. Specifically, spoilers for who each Miraculous holder ends up being.

Everyone knows who the holders of the main two Miraculous are. But not everyone who heads to a new cool-looking amusement park with theming from some random French cartoon is gonna know who ends up holding the Ox Miraculous for example.

Then again, the identity of the cartoon character holding a magical nose ring is probably not a BIG concern for thrill-seekers who just wanna ride some wild coasters, so what do I know?

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Maybe, but I wanted big ***** platforming girls, I would play a Wayforward game.

why yes I am single how could you tell

you got too much aura for the women within your age to handle

 

[TheMightyP]

you got too much aura for the women within your age to handle

yeah. Aura. That's what we'll call it, yep

 

[Cutie Gwen]

So I took the quiz twice.

Spoiler: Attempt 1

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Spoiler: Attempt 2

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Checks out, I do love my supports. Though I never used Rab in my DQ11 playthrough, but Serena never got benched.

Also, today I learned that Sylvando has a Wikipedia page.

Well, Sage isn't just support as they're basically god tier in all things magic which in DQ3HD so far is ridiculously good but yeah Serena's one of em

 

[Lamperouge]

I have max aura.

 

[TheMightyP]

Well, Sage isn't just support as they're basically god tier in all things magic which in DQ3HD so far is ridiculously good but yeah Serena's one of em

Serena was busted as **** midgame and tbh there was zero reason to use Rab cause of that.

then they reverted her in act 3. shame.