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[Noipoi]

Well you’ve done it now, Bubsy is next

I’d love that, it’d be awful. And hilarious.

Gimme something radical or gimme something ridiculous. I just don’t like the ones that bore me

 

[Shroob]

To be fair, "I don't care who they are" already did contradict him constantly saying "it can only be a big third party and don't you dare suggest otherwise" in the newcomer thread last night.

I never said it has to be 3rd party.

Waluigi is a "big" first party. Ring Fit is a "Big" first party. Pokemon is "Big".


I'm gonna tag the hell out of ya if it does end up being a big 3rd party tho lol.

 

[Knight Dude]

I got to finishing my Sub-Zero drawing.

I had to draw my favorite MK character again. Sub-Zero! Alt Colors are Klassic, Cyrax and Sektor. #MortalKombat #MortalKombat11 #MK #MKDeception #ninja #snow https://t.co/1M0UNm1xhlhttps://t.co/o6hfJiPAXK pic.twitter.com/cpfZ9B3v1Q

— KnightLineArt (COMMISSIONS ON HIATUS/PAUSED) (@KnightLineArt) May 11, 2021

 

[duxx]

anyone ever think its weird that nintendo fans are complaining about nintendo characters being added to a nintendo fighting game? 3rd party characters are the result of the devs being nice, we shouldnt grow to always expect them and just learn to enjoy what we have.

 

[Guynamednelson]

I never said it has to be 3rd party.

Waluigi is a "big" first party. Ring Fit is a "Big" first party. Pokemon is "Big".


I'm gonna tag the hell out of ya if it does end up being a big 3rd party tho lol.

As you can see I am just really really ****ing insecure about Smash fans' standards rising the way they have just from FP1 alone.

 

[Noipoi]

I'm gonna tag the hell out of ya if it does end up being a big 3rd party tho lol.

This E3 determines whether you punk Nelson, or get punked by Nelson.

Just like how it determines whether I punk SnakeFighter64 or whether she punks me (unlikely)

There’s a lot riding on this one.

 

[Shroob]

As you can see I am just really really ****ing insecure about Smash fans' standards rising the way they have just from FP1 alone.

Worry about your own things, not the way other people view things. You can't change how other people view things, and this quickness to try to jump all over people ain't doing ya any good.


If people wanna inflate their standards to insanely high degrees, only for it to blow up in their face, let them, it's not your problem.

 

[MooMew64]

My speculation video is gonna be me yammering about Reimu and you're all gonna like it 'cause she's at E3, baby.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Lol I forgot Nintendo was publishing this.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

Also 60 bucks.

 

[TheMightyP]

anyone ever think its weird that nintendo fans are complaining about nintendo characters being added to a nintendo fighting game? 3rd party characters are the result of the devs being nice, we shouldnt grow to always expect them and just learn to enjoy what we have.

Maybe, but imo the Nintendo reps we got in the pass are characters that aren't really worth paying for. Pyra/Mythra and Min Min are really nothing special and imo should've been in FP1 if they couldn't get them in base game, and Byleth is... Byleth.

 

[Guynamednelson]

that aren't really worth paying for

Characters have more value than arbitrary hype points.

 

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[TheMightyP]

Characters have more value than arbitrary hype points.

Ok, but hype is literally what sells basically anything when it comes to gaming, and IMO, they aren't hype at all.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

anyone ever think its weird that nintendo fans are complaining about nintendo characters being added to a nintendo fighting game? 3rd party characters are the result of the devs being nice, we shouldnt grow to always expect them and just learn to enjoy what we have.

Some people got spoiled.

 

[Shroob]

anyone ever think its weird that nintendo fans are complaining about nintendo characters being added to a nintendo fighting game? 3rd party characters are the result of the devs being nice, we shouldnt grow to always expect them and just learn to enjoy what we have.

I mean, it's due to a lot of reasons tbh.

Between everyone is here + The newcomers, the Nintendo side of Nintendo has a lot of characters to choose from in the game already. It's definitely not a perfect representation, but there is a lot, that's undebatable, and that amount covers a wide swathe of Nintendo history.

There's a handful of people that view the DLC characters as Nintendo shilling, due to them all being from Switch titles, barring Plant.

And frankly, 3rd party characters are generally the ones who drum up the most buzz, and expand the "Cross-overness" of Smash.



I don't mind 1st party characters at all, and am legit happy with the ones that we've gotten, but I'd be lying if I said I didn't get more excited for characters like Banjo, Hero and Sephiroth than I did for Min Min and P/M.



Honestly, even though I understand why Nintendo's pulling from Switch-only games so-far for DLC, it just makes the most sense from a business perspective, I'd be lying if I said I wouldn't appreciate some GBA, DS or SNES love as a DLC character.

 

[Guynamednelson]

Ok, but hype is literally what sells basically anything when it comes to gaming, and IMO, they aren't hype at all.

You're forgetting that there were plenty of XC2 fans that wanted their game to get a fighter as well, not just Crash fans.

 

[duxx]

Maybe, but imo the Nintendo reps we got in the pass are characters that aren't really worth paying for. Pyra/Mythra and Min Min are really nothing special and imo should've been in FP1 if they couldn't get them in base game, and Byleth is... Byleth.

idk about that. there were tons of people who were super happy when they saw byleth/min min/the baeblades revealed. just because theyre "nothing special" to you doesnt mean that other people dont like them. theres always gonna be people who are happy about a character reveal and people who are upset about it, first party or not

 

[Shroob]

It's hard to say that P/M weren't hype reveals, tbh.


Maybe they didn't click with the west as well due to "Another anime sword!" "Bad design!" "lol booba"


But Japan lost their **** over them.

 

[Guynamednelson]

Banjo

I still feel like people are forgetting why they'd be hype, and it's not because a third-party got added instead of a gen 8 Pokemon.

And I still feel super ****ing insecure. Even if I win the battle, I'll lose the war because so many people will whine that Nintendo thought Steve and Sephiroth were enough to attract fans of big third parties. Just like they thought the same with Snake and Sonic, Mega Man and Pac-Man, Ryu and Cloud...

 

[MooMew64]

It's hard to say that P/M weren't hype reveals, tbh.


Maybe they didn't click with the west as well due to "Another anime sword!" "Bad design!" "lol booba"


But Japan lost their **** over them.

It follows this fanbase's obsession with despising anyone holding a pointy stick or looking vaguely anime.

For real, always gonna be ironic to me how a huge part of the Nintendo fanbase is the "ew anime" crowd when Nintendo is a Japanese company and like, 90% of their stuff is aggressively anime, lol.

 

[TheMightyP]

You're forgetting that there were plenty of XC2 fans that wanted their game to get a fighter as well, not just Crash fans.

idk about that. there were tons of people who were super happy when they saw byleth/min min/the baeblades revealed. just because theyre "nothing special" to you doesnt mean that other people dont like them. theres always gonna be people who are happy about a character reveal and people who are upset about it, first party or not

Ok, and there's a lot of people who straight up felt like they were mid (like me), and that's valid as well. If y'all think it's cool, good for them, good for you, but again people paid for the pass, so they can choose how to feel about certain characters. Sure, fans of that game may be happy, but that doesn't mean everyone else can't be disappointed.

 

[Shroob]

I still feel like people are forgetting why they'd be hype, and it's not because a third-party got added instead of a gen 8 Pokemon.

And I still feel super ****ing insecure. Even if I win the battle, I'll lose the war because so many people will whine that Nintendo thought Steve and Sephiroth were enough to attract fans of big third parties.

I mean, why are you fighting to begin with?


Speculation is supposed to be fun, not a war. People butt heads, but it's never something to get worked up over. If people are gonna whine, let them, it's not your responsibility.

 

[Noipoi]

Fellas

It’s all just a matter of opinions. It ain’t that deep.

Now shut the **** up

 

[TMNTSSB4]

If you didn’t think existentially about my letters question

then you just don’t get pondering as a concept frankly
...or jeffly if you will

oh that was one of the few complex questions I had to deeply think about oddly enough

Sim for smash???

Sims...EA for Smash

Into the room

this is my doom
I’m saying goodnight
cause it’s Rest In Peace soon

Lol I forgot Nintendo was publishing this.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

Also 60 bucks.

gonna be the greatest DC game of all time, so y’all better buy it

 

[True Blue Warrior]

There is no point feeling insecure about people whining about first-party characters. People forget that Joker, Terry and Hero got as much hate as Pyra and Mythra did, so Smash salt is business as usual.

 

[Shroob]

There is no point feeling insecure about people whining about first-party characters. People forget that Joker, Terry and Hero got as much hate as Pyra and Mythra did, so Smash salt is business as usual.

Especially Terry and Hero.


Trucker Ken and Hoes Mad are burned into my memory and will never go away.

 

[Noipoi]

It follows this fanbase's obsession with despising anyone holding a pointy stick or looking vaguely anime.

For real, always gonna be ironic to me how a huge part of the Nintendo fanbase is the "ew anime" crowd when Nintendo is a Japanese company and like, 90% of their stuff is aggressively anime, lol.

It’s more of a variety thing for me.

I know most people don’t care but personally I’d rather have a JRPG guy, a platformer guy, a shooter guy, etc. but a lot of the time it seems like the majority is JRPG guys.

I dunno maybe I’m just a dummy dum stupid dummy.

 

[TheMightyP]

That's not say I wouldn't be hype over a first party character, I mean... my Golden Boy still there.

 

[MooMew64]

It’s more of a variety thing for me.

I know most people don’t care but personally I’d rather have a JRPG guy, a platformer guy, a shooter guy, etc. but a lot of the time it seems like the majority is JRPG guys.

I dunno maybe I’m just a dummy dum stupid dummy.

No no no, I get it: Variety is nice, but at the end of the day, for me personally I care more about if they're from something I like or are fun to play as than the aesthetic.

Obviously it's to each their own, though: Everyone's got a preference.

 

[Wario Bros.]

Getting tempted to buying PowerA's upcoming Waluigi Switch pro controller.

 

[TheMightyP]

There is no point feeling insecure about people whining about first-party characters. People forget that Joker, Terry and Hero got as much hate as Pyra and Mythra did, so Smash salt is business as usual.

Joker got hate? I know the Persona fanbase did for getting significantly worse after Joker got it, but not Joker himself.

Hero's reception was all Square's fault for their terrible handling of Dragon Quest, and Terry's reception was all because, as it turns out, the audience of the world's largest fighting game doesn't actually play fighting games.


But you're right, Smash salt is bound to happen.

 

[Shroob]

It’s more of a variety thing for me.

I know most people don’t care but personally I’d rather have a JRPG guy, a platformer guy, a shooter guy, etc. but a lot of the time it seems like the majority is JRPG guys.

I dunno maybe I’m just a dummy dum stupid dummy.

I'd love a shooter rep personally.


But if Doomguy's seemingly off the table, then the only candidate I really see left as viable would be MC, and even though I jokingly say "E3 is Microsoft's time!", I'm not at all confident to say that would happen.


That's just kinda the nature of the beast. Japan isn't really 'big' on shooters unlike the states, and considering Nintendo's a Japanese company, just kinda makes sense they target more a Japanese audience.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Especially Terry and Hero.


Trucker Ken and Hoes Mad are burned into my memory and will never go away.

Exactly, which is precisely why the idea of first-party DLC being hated because they are first-party (which, for the record, is not an argument I am accusing anyone here specifically of having made, I am just talking in general) doesn’t really make sense since that implies that all first-party characters are equivalent in terms of reception with each other and the same deal with third-party characters when something like that is simply not true. A character like Skull Kid would not get the same kind of reaction as Byleth.

 

[MooMew64]

I'd love a shooter rep personally.


But if Doomguy's seemingly off the table, then the only candidate I really see left as viable would be MC, and even though I jokingly say "E3 is Microsoft's time!", I'm not at all confident to say that would happen.


That's just kinda the nature of the beast. Japan isn't really 'big' on shooters unlike the states, and considering Nintendo's a Japanese company, just kinda makes sense they target more a Japanese audience.

I can think of a shooter rep that appeals to the Japanese audience.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Joker got hate? I know the Persona fanbase did for getting significantly worse after Joker got it, but not Joker himself.

There were people who complained about him being a Playstation-associated character.

I can think of a shooter rep that appeals to the Japanese audience.

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What an adorable creature.

 

[Noipoi]

I can think of a shooter rep that appeals to the Japanese audience.

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Cap’n Cuttlefish confirmed.

 

[Shroob]

There were people who complained about him being a Playstation-associated character.

Man

I've never understood this argument, and I STILL see it crop up all the time.


You'd think that after friggen Solid Snake and Cloud, this argument would be dead as dust, but no, there are still people who cling to "Muh console wars".

 

[TheMightyP]

I can think of a shooter rep that appeals to the Japanese audience.

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I would main Octoling day 1.

 

[Guynamednelson]

Trucker Ken and Hoes Mad are burned into my memory and will never go away

Eh, I've gotten over Hat Ke-


wait a minute

**** it if I can get over HAT KEN and NO SNK IS LITERALLY THE MOST OBSCURE COMPANY EVER THEY DON'T DESERVE TO BE IN I can get over NO IT CAN'T BE AN AT IT HAS TO BE CRASHTER CHIEF

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Man

I've never understood this argument, and I STILL see it crop up all the time.


You'd think that after friggen Solid Snake and Cloud, this argument would be dead as dust, but no, there are still people who cling to "Muh console wars".

Smash is a Nintendo game, so that is the reason.