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The Snake Killers

Gold_Sonic

Smash Rookie
Joined
Jul 1, 2008
Messages
5
Hello, Snake Mains,

This is Gold here, and I am putting forth a challenge to all Snake mains. Yes, I know that Snake is considered the best character in the game, but my Sonic is capable of beating almost any Snake, gauranteed.

If there are any Snakes here that wish to battle me, Gold, or my friend who mains Fox, just PM me with your friend code or leave it in a response here. We'll be online all day to set up a time to battle.

Good luck. You'll need it.

-Gold
 

Gold_Sonic

Smash Rookie
Joined
Jul 1, 2008
Messages
5
This isn't a ranked match or anything. I'm looking for a good challenge from a Snake main.

If you don't wanna fight, don't post.

If you do, I'll gladly challenge you.
 

Feorri

Smash Rookie
Joined
Apr 20, 2008
Messages
14
Location
Illinois
Hello, Snake Mains,

This is Gold here, and I am putting forth a challenge to all Snake mains. Yes, I know that Snake is considered the best character in the game, but my Sonic is capable of beating almost any Snake, gauranteed.

If there are any Snakes here that wish to battle me, Gold, or my friend who mains Fox, just PM me with your friend code or leave it in a response here. We'll be online all day to set up a time to battle.

Good luck. You'll need it.

-Gold
"beating almost any ... guaranteed" lol
 

Sinz

The only true DR vet.
Premium
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Aug 31, 2005
Messages
8,189
Gold Sonic unless you are alot better than InterimofZeal, one of your Sonic "gods" I seriously doubt you could beat any of the good snakes here.
 

The Halloween Captain

Smash Master
Joined
May 20, 2008
Messages
4,331
Location
The northeast
Sorry for not being a Snake main, but maybe I can get the point across, as I have tried this approach myself for getting a real challenge.

Gold Sonic is not being overconfident. He is just putting on that appearance because he wants a true Snake master to try to put him in his place. A lot of people don't realize just how much of an edge Sonic's speed gives him; in fact, a true Sonic master might have an advantage against a Snake.

With that in mind, a lot of people would not count a wifi match as a real one. However, since slow (tactical) characters are given a boost by the lag, a Sonic user should have a disadvantage against Snake on wifi.

My advise to any Snake user who views this - If Gold Sonic is anything like me, he wants to be challenged because he is on a whole different level from everyone he's faced so far, and chose Snake because Snake users are awesome. He is probably extremely tough, and should not be underestimated for his attitude or his character.
 

diddykongsnaners

Smash Apprentice
Joined
Jul 2, 2008
Messages
80
Sorry for not being a Snake main, but maybe I can get the point across, as I have tried this approach myself for getting a real challenge.

Gold Sonic is not being overconfident. He is just putting on that appearance because he wants a true Snake master to try to put him in his place. A lot of people don't realize just how much of an edge Sonic's speed gives him; in fact, a true Sonic master might have an advantage against a Snake.

With that in mind, a lot of people would not count a wifi match as a real one. However, since slow (tactical) characters are given a boost by the lag, a Sonic user should have a disadvantage against Snake on wifi.

My advise to any Snake user who views this - If Gold Sonic is anything like me, he wants to be challenged because he is on a whole different level from everyone he's faced so far, and chose Snake because Snake users are awesome. He is probably extremely tough, and should not be underestimated for his attitude or his character.
he has not much priority, i play with sonic sometimes and he is easily dodged because of his not so fast smashes
 

Snake's On A Plane

Smash Cadet
Joined
Apr 28, 2008
Messages
39
Location
Bothell
Sorry for not being a Snake main, but maybe I can get the point across, as I have tried this approach myself for getting a real challenge.

Gold Sonic is not being overconfident. He is just putting on that appearance because he wants a true Snake master to try to put him in his place. A lot of people don't realize just how much of an edge Sonic's speed gives him; in fact, a true Sonic master might have an advantage against a Snake.

With that in mind, a lot of people would not count a wifi match as a real one. However, since slow (tactical) characters are given a boost by the lag, a Sonic user should have a disadvantage against Snake on wifi.

My advise to any Snake user who views this - If Gold Sonic is anything like me, he wants to be challenged because he is on a whole different level from everyone he's faced so far, and chose Snake because Snake users are awesome. He is probably extremely tough, and should not be underestimated for his attitude or his character.
LAG NEVER HELPS SNAKE!!!!

Reasons:

1. Cant time c4 because of stupid lag
2. Cant time spikes because of stupid lag
3. Cant time combos because of stupid lag

Sorry I dont hate you, I just hate lag with a passion!:mad:

P.S Grenade sheilding and grenade drops and dodges completely stop sonic rolls from determining the pace of the fight. Just some helpful advice.
 

chaindude

Smash Journeyman
Joined
Jan 5, 2008
Messages
415
Location
B.C
Sorry for not being a Snake main, but maybe I can get the point across, as I have tried this approach myself for getting a real challenge.

Gold Sonic is not being overconfident. He is just putting on that appearance because he wants a true Snake master to try to put him in his place. A lot of people don't realize just how much of an edge Sonic's speed gives him; in fact, a true Sonic master might have an advantage against a Snake.

With that in mind, a lot of people would not count a wifi match as a real one. However, since slow (tactical) characters are given a boost by the lag, a Sonic user should have a disadvantage against Snake on wifi.

My advise to any Snake user who views this - If Gold Sonic is anything like me, he wants to be challenged because he is on a whole different level from everyone he's faced so far, and chose Snake because Snake users are awesome. He is probably extremely tough, and should not be underestimated for his attitude or his character.
QFT tho i do disagree characters are givin boost because of lag it screw everyone up unless you can predict lag :laugh:
(not a snake main either learning him tho) perhaps he also want to prove to people sonic can stand up to the better characters like i hope to as well...
 

Azgner

Smash Apprentice
Joined
May 6, 2008
Messages
131
Location
Brazil
Sadly, thats the way brawl is. and sonic is light and can be KO'ed quite easily. In the other hand, sonic has few KO moves, and snake is very hard to Ko. Spring semi-spike does not work so well on snake.sonic's low priority and range and the fact that granade counters works wonders against spin dash combos and most of sonic attacks, only give snake an even bigger advantage.
 

The Halloween Captain

Smash Master
Joined
May 20, 2008
Messages
4,331
Location
The northeast
Most people would think that. Heck, I thought that when I played Sonic. However, a good Sonic can be too fast for a good Snake. Sonic screws up projectiles by simply being too fast to be hit by them, and has a slightly better air game than Snake (Sonic uses maneuverability and speed to out-do Snake's power and range) - meaning Snake is somewhat more limited in his air options than Sonic. Coupled with the fact that Sonic is hit and run, Sonic can be a tough opponent for Snake, or at least a very irritating one.
 

chaindude

Smash Journeyman
Joined
Jan 5, 2008
Messages
415
Location
B.C
Most people would think that. Heck, I thought that when I played Sonic. However, a good Sonic can be too fast for a good Snake. Sonic screws up projectiles by simply being too fast to be hit by them, and has a slightly better air game than Snake (Sonic uses maneuverability and speed to out-do Snake's power and range) - meaning Snake is somewhat more limited in his air options than Sonic. Coupled with the fact that Sonic is hit and run, Sonic can be a tough opponent for Snake, or at least a very irritating one.
finally somebody who see's both side but i think the favour is still snakes 6-5

Speed doesnt mean jack **** in brawl
are you trying to be as biased as you sound-power as well doesnt mean much if you can gimp =D
 

napZzz

Smash Hero
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Mar 4, 2008
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cg, MN
Ummm this match up is probably 7/3 in snakes favor if you put together a really good snake against a really good sonic. And snake has more range, power, and killing ability over sonic. Most of his moves can snuff out sonics and knock him back. Snakes not really as help less in the air as you'd think and could probably hold his own because he has more range over sonic
 

The Halloween Captain

Smash Master
Joined
May 20, 2008
Messages
4,331
Location
The northeast
The Snake v. Sonic match is a lot more even in practice than it appears in text. Sonic's abilities and strengths counter Snake's unusually well for an assumed low-tier character.

Edit: Snake in the air has five options, and of these, none of them counter Sonic's specialty effectively - That is, a diagnol areal. Sonic hits from above and at an angle, or below and at an angle, the former Snake can't really counter in the air because all his attacks either go horizontally or vertically. The closest thing Snake has is his multi-hit neutral a, but that does not handle the attacks from above.
 

The Halloween Captain

Smash Master
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About dropping grenades - most good sonics will use a running grab over stupidly attacking a grenade on the ground. Also, Snake has a serious weakness concerning dodges in the air. After he runs out of jumps, there is a landing animation out of which any multi-frame attack can hit snake, and he can't dodge. The landing animation is often used for juggling, and is known to be particularly abused against Snake.
 

Cecilanius

Smash Journeyman
Joined
Mar 7, 2008
Messages
363
Location
Cleveland, Ohio
Haha, I know what you mean about getting grabbed after dropping a grenade. I'm so used to that now in days that I space myself even more after dropping the grenade.

Also, every Snake should get used to conserving a jump for a jump into an airdodge. I don't know what to call it. It's so useful in such situations. Especially if you use b-reversed grenades afterwards.
 

cheetacuz007

Smash Apprentice
Joined
Mar 21, 2008
Messages
102
Location
Texas
sorry but snake has too much priority and is one of the heaviest characters in the game and seeing as sonic is limited in ko'ing the matchup is pretty one-sided
 

The Halloween Captain

Smash Master
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The northeast
You need to do the match to understand it. I can't explain the matchup all that well, only that Sonic is a very irritating and dangerous surprise for Snake.
 

Snake's On A Plane

Smash Cadet
Joined
Apr 28, 2008
Messages
39
Location
Bothell
Ok, so I just fought Gold Sonic online and I understand the frustration that Snake Users like myself have with Sonic. His speed is ridiculous and gold understood how to dodge dropped grenades forcing me to air dodge his rolls.

BUT, I won because -

Sonic is too light
Sonic's attack have less priority
Sonic doesn't have enough KOs, and his wind up punch is way too predictable
Alot of Sonic's attacks can be punished if they miss
Snake's U-air is very effective after Sonic uses his up B
 

chaindude

Smash Journeyman
Joined
Jan 5, 2008
Messages
415
Location
B.C
You need to do the match to understand it. I can't explain the matchup all that well, only that Sonic is a very irritating and dangerous surprise for Snake.
Ok, so I just fought Gold Sonic online and I understand the frustration that Snake Users like myself have with Sonic. His speed is ridiculous and gold understood how to dodge dropped grenades forcing me to air dodge his rolls.

BUT, I won because -

Sonic is too light
Sonic's attack have less priority
Sonic doesn't have enough KOs, and his wind up punch is way too predictable
Alot of Sonic's attacks can be punished if they miss
Snake's U-air is very effective after Sonic uses his up B
there's proof that sonic CAN be hard for snake


there are a few styles of sonic and snake-anyone wanna play near the west coast...? maybe i could show you what it's like vice versa as well :)
 

Cat Fight

Smash Lord
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Mar 20, 2008
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Well, I wouldn't say that...
I believe Sonic really has the potential to do some damage.

I'm not gonna lie, I do think Sonic does well against Snake for some reason.

I recall Memphischains beating Cort's Snake in friendlies...
Tch, better than I could do. =._.=
 

Program

Smash Apprentice
Joined
Jul 6, 2008
Messages
161
Location
Outer Heaven, DE
Two funny things

One: The title of the thread. LOL

Two: He comes in with "Gold Here" like we know who he is.'

Im done.
 
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