The 'Snake in Doubles' Thread

[Lawlmahbawls]

Welcome to the... uh... Snake in Doubles Thread! Where we discuss the finer aspects of Snake, but this time he's not alone!

Basically we will discuss the advantages and disadvantages for Snake in Teams. Who his best Teammates are, who his WORST are, best stages for Snake, stages to avoid/ban and of course the silly 'combos' only available in teams.

So who is Snakes best teammate? Post your opinion here!

 

[Lawlmahbawls]

Reserved because you never know. <______<;;

 

[SuSa]

ROB, Sonic ( a smart sonic.. ), jigglypuff (or anyone with a strong aerial game)

mario can give us an unlimited recovery by either caping our recovery, or caping any of our aerials after the recovery ends. (epic)

Squirtle, mario, link, pit, and other people with wind-boxes can make some neat grenade mindgames when we shield drop them. (Pit + non-moving grenade + up-B = lulzy)

Pit and Mario are also good...

When I have a bit more time I'll get into specifics, who I personally see as the best if the two players have no 'team time' together (they don't normally team), etc.

Obviously two people who don't team together may not work if its ROB and Snake, even though those two make a great team, not everyone can pull it off unless they KNOW their partner's playstyle well. Most of my choices don't really matter on playstyle, so long as its not horribly different from the majority. (eg; find me a highly ground -based jigglypuff...)

...lol.... ---reserved if OP needs it---

 

[Tero.]

Snake is beast in teams.
He can tank because he lives up to 200% every fukcin stock and he can kill at ridiculous %.
Snake/Snake Snake/MK is broken lulz

 

[SuSa]

Snake/Snake is probably the most annoying team battle ever, unless both of you are really good at keeping track of stuff.

 

[8AngeL8]

Snake/Snake doesn't work too well, but I have had success with my current team which is Snake/DK. Basically, I try to mine and C4 important parts of the stage and spread grenades everywhere. If I can just trade even damage among everyone on screen, we end up winning because me and DK can tank the damage well and we kill super early.

DK has huge grab range, so he can grab while Snake Fsmashes or Utilts to get easy kills.

Something I literally just thought of and want to test would be to C4 the DK, he goes offstage and spikes someone with his beastly spikes, and I C4 him if he can't make it back because of his crap recovery. I don't know if the spike would transfer the C4, though, so I need to test it.

 

[napZzz]

snake&mk is 2gud.

Master of ground, and the beast of the air. Plus they are both loaded with kill moves and have gay ways of racking damage.

If your partner has priority you can stick meta, he does uthrow, top of the screen asplosion, BAM, meta comes back down only taking some damage, but who cares, you just stole a stock easily :D

 

[Tero.]

MK to rack up % snake to finish them of is raaape, did i allready mention that ?

 

[Er!ckLZ]

Snake and DDD..

lol xD

 

[SuSa]

Snake/Snake doesn't work too well, but I have had success with my current team which is Snake/DK. Basically, I try to mine and C4 important parts of the stage and spread grenades everywhere. If I can just trade even damage among everyone on screen, we end up winning because me and DK can tank the damage well and we kill super early.

DK has huge grab range, so he can grab while Snake Fsmashes or Utilts to get easy kills.

Something I literally just thought of and want to test would be to C4 the DK, he goes offstage and spikes someone with his beastly spikes, and I C4 him if he can't make it back because of his crap recovery. I don't know if the spike would transfer the C4, though, so I need to test it.

Did you know --

DK's dtilt can make grab release > trip /stun > regrab (snake) work for... like ever?

Snake: grab
snake: pummel
dk: spam a well-spaced dtilt
opponent: gets ground releases, hit by dtilt
snake: regrab
DK: small step forward to fix spacing, repeat
when you need to kill:
Dk stops spamming dtilt, grabs opponent
snake fsmash/utilt (well spaced)


it's a **** team, and Dk's aerial game is pretty beastly. and the reasons you listed. lol

 

[Lawlmahbawls]

Yeah, tis obvious that Snake/MK is the best Team combo. <___<;;
ROB/Snake is good as previously stated, G&W is great. Turtle turtle turtle, great airgame and overall a great teams partner for anyone.

I'm curious about DDD/Snake, both are heavies and will be tanking stocks, DDD's WoP provides the air support (lol) that Snake needs and CG is nice even though you'll barely even use it.

 

[misterpimp5757]

everyone knows snake/mk is beasty...but what about snake.....and samus?

lol. snake grabs>pummels>samus shoots rockets and lazahs. PERFECT.

(announcer): WOW...INCREDIBLE!!!

or CF the two manliest characters on one team. snake grabs and falcon does the knee or a falcon punch.

but to be serious what about olimar? would he be any good with snake?

 

[Lawlmahbawls]

I actually team with my friend in dubs, he uses Oli. We won the tourney we entered as Snake/Oli. <____<;;

But it reaaaaally isn't a good combo. Oli is pretty bad in teams, he can get gimped soooooo easily. And Snake can't really do anything to save him, all his moves are too strong and end up pushing the Oli FURTHER away. lmao.

 

[napZzz]

oh you can also drop nades for mk to use if he wants to glide toss or omnigay with them.

2GUD

 

[Tero.]

I actually team with my friend in dubs, he uses Oli. We won the tourney we entered as Snake/Oli. <____<;;

But it reaaaaally isn't a good combo. Oli is pretty bad in teams, he can get gimped soooooo easily. And Snake can't really do anything to save him, all his moves are too strong and end up pushing the Oli FURTHER away. lmao.

Snake is not the team character to support your partner, he is the one who live up to freakin percentages and kills your opponents with ****ing tilts at ****ing 100 % every ****ing stock.

 

[Ken Neth]

IMO, Oli is really good for teams. I used to prefer using him in teams over snake @_@. Other good teammates in my opinion are marth and lucario, but I would have to say MK is the best.

 

[istudying]

I played a tournamnt callled TNOT2 with 120 people.
My teammate played MK and i played Snake. Whe ended 3th in teams.

 

[misterpimp5757]

3th? lol i didnt know thats what they call it now.

what is the omnigay?

 

[JesiahTEG]

Omnigay is when Snake pulls a grenade, and the Metaknight grabs him and Uthrows at the perfect time, so the grenade explodes while Snake is above the screen in the vertical blast ceiling, and Snake dies at any percent.

 

[yellowroy]

oh you can also drop nades for mk to use if he wants to glide toss or omnigay with them.

2GUD

omnigay ftw!!! =D

Really Snake/Mk or Gdubs/Snake.

 

[Karmacide]

3th? lol i didnt know thats what they call it now.

what is the omnigay?

If Metaknight/Kirby is on a higher port than the intended opponent and does an up throw while the opponent is holding a grenade and manages to time it so that the grenade explodes in the blast zone the person on the lower port will die at any percent. So if metaknight/Kirby is on the lower port this will be a suicide.

It can be useful in teams because snake can stick C4 to Metaknight and Metaknight can grab someone and do up throw. Snake sets it off and kills the victim. Usually Metaknight will survive.

I team up with Affinity for Team battles and we managed to pull it off in this match at around 03:55.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4U_x6wdqXr0

MK and Snake is a pretty dirty team. MK can stick the C4 to people with Shuttle loop and tornado as well. The tornado is nasty if MK can bring the victim up and they pop out near the top of the stage.

 

[Endless Nightmares]

Snake/DDD is a great team, I used to do this team a lot (being the Dedede)

Going double-Snake later today =O

Can double Snake do anything special in 2v1 situations? dthrow traps? Snake Omnigay?

 

[Joker490Frozen]

Of course Snake/MK are good team, they are the top 2.

Anyways, I'll have to say that G&W is also a good, I been teaming with one since Brawl release, and has work for us really good, one of the things that G&W helps Snake out, is his U-air, cause while Snake is doing his up-B, G&W gives him a boost way up, so it prevents ppl from gimping Snake.

Here's an example at 1:40, Falco tries to steal the scypher and Wario tries to bite it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5DMeHE0TRg&feature=channel_page

 

[pkblaze]

i have a vendeta against meta(lets face it, who doesn't?) so i either use snake or kirby when teaming up with my friend(who secondaries snake) he can't omnigay for ****

 

[Endless Nightmares]

back from the tourney, Double Snake is great and all (a few matches there were three Snakes on screen, so many explosives to keep track of!) but Snake + Rob is just amazing. Especially on odd counterpick stages since ROB has better mobility.

 

[Ken Neth]

oh you can also drop nades for mk to use if he wants to glide toss or omnigay with them.

2GUD

I just noticed this post. Omnigay doesn't work, unless the other person picks it up. Because a character can't grab someone while they are holding an item, therefore MK cannot omnigay people on demand with snake's grenades.

 

[napZzz]

I just noticed this post. Omnigay doesn't work, unless the other person picks it up. Because a character can't grab someone while they are holding an item, therefore MK cannot omnigay people on demand with snake's grenades.

I meant c4 <_<

that tourney was fun 56k

 

[hunger!]

snake/wario....DUH!

 

[MachinegunNorm]

snake/falco works pretty well.

 

[Ken Neth]

We should also discuss what snake's role is in doubles, and how you should play with certain teammates. Not just saying what character does good with snake.

 

[Endless Nightmares]

Well my partner, who is always Snake, is defensive with 'nades. Usually does a lot of damage. I am usually the aggressor and get the kills no matter what char I am. Now that I'm using Snake in teams I still play the same role, it's possible for two different Snake styles to work well on the same team.

I think our team works much better than two defense Snakes or two highly aggressive Snakes

 

[napZzz]

Well my partner, who is always Snake, is defensive with 'nades. Usually does a lot of damage. I am usually the aggressor and get the kills no matter what char I am. Now that I'm using Snake in teams I still play the same role, it's possible for two different Snake styles to work well on the same team.

I think our team works much better than two defense Snakes or two highly aggressive Snakes

snake needs to be a tank in teams, camping and serving as a distraction because of the fact that he is staying alive so long and he gives out so much damage. He also lands easy kills in teams (too easily) due to the fact that its hard to keep up with so many people around you. You need to rely on the fact that you can pull off some things in doubles that you normally would not be able to in a 1v1.

Snake is 2gud in teams.

EDITLaying aggro snake in teams is stupid too. Also snake ***** in 2v1's, I luv them.

 

[Ken Neth]

snake needs to be a tank in teams, camping and serving as a distraction because of the fact that he is staying alive so long and he gives out so much damage. He also lands easy kills in teams (too easily) due to the fact that its hard to keep up with so many people around you. You need to rely on the fact that you can pull off some things in doubles that you normally would not be able to in a 1v1.

Snake is 2gud in teams.

QFT. I play a defensive snake in teams as well. I try to avoid being in the thick of things. I play with a super aggressive MK, so I just sit a little outside the fray and tilt people as they come at me.

I never drop grenades when my teammate is around. It seems to hit my teammate more than them, and if it doesn't hit him, then he ends up having to play more cautiously than he normally would.

Sticking people in teams is so much easier. Like NaPPy said, you can pull off things you normally wouldn't be able to in singles. And it's not really that hard to keep track of who it's on.

I would say it's better for your teammate to use a character that can be very aggressive in teams. Two defensive characters or two aggressive characters don't work well together in teams IMO.

 

[Endless Nightmares]

snake needs to be a tank in teams, camping and serving as a distraction because of the fact that he is staying alive so long and he gives out so much damage.

Yes. That is what Ulti does.

He also lands easy kills in teams (too easily) due to the fact that its hard to keep up with so many people around you.

Yes. That is what I do.

You need to rely on the fact that you can pull off some things in doubles that you normally would not be able to in a 1v1.

Yes. That is what we do.

EDITLaying aggro snake in teams is stupid too.

Why? I've never not been aggressive in Brawl teams, it's the only thing I know how to do lol...funny because I was the camper in Melee teams (but I was Samus)