Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

[GraveEclipse567]

Slightly off topic but pretty much sums up the situation for me if Ridley was actually de-confirmed after hearing all characters were pretty much selected from the start

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I love Cyanide and Happiness.

 

[Nietona]

There really isn't much in the game as of current that really makes a good case for me to want to buy it. If the Gematsu leak is correct, there still won't be. I'm a pretty big villain fan, so these heroes ain't got nothin'.

Even on top of that, without Ridley I feel the villain's list would be lackluster. Could be because at this point he's all that really matters to me, but eh.

Guh, but at least I ain't gonna start kickin' detractor teeth in if he DOES get confirmed. Just celebrate peacefully. I mean, instantly proves we're miles better than people going out of their way to rile us up and laugh at us if we do.

It'll be Christmas come early if Ridley is confirmed.

*adds slowbeef gif because slowbeef*

 

[NekuShikazu]

I'm not a giantic fan of Ridley, but Metroid needs another rep aside from a character split into two.
Also, how would they make Ridley jump if he can just fly everywhere (assuming he can jump only 2-5 times)

 

[I Bet You Can]

Look guys, I found another Ridley and Bowser pic! :D

 

[Deleted member]

Look guys, I found another Ridley and Bowser pic! :D

@OblivionWolf posted that a couple hundred pages back iirc.

 

[AustarusIV]

There was something that I wanted to reiterate:

@Dalek_Kolt and @Smashoperatingbuddy123: Is it possible to estimate how large Ridley's shadow will be on the other Wii U stages? You guys have done so many estimations on how large Ridley might be on the Pyrosphere, but now we should try to find out what he would be like on a different stage.

 

[Waluigi is too big]

Sadly he's an AT

I CAN DREAM!

 

[MasterOfKnees]

Remember guys, you need to perform your mandatory 5 minutes of staring at the clip that started it all to remain in the Cool Ridley Club.

http://gfycat.com/ComfortableIncompatibleAzurewingedmagpie#

5 Minutes? I think we need to up the bar a bit, I'm certain almost everyone here has watched that **** for waaaay longer.

 

[Kirbizard]

@OblivionWolf posted that a couple hundred pages back iirc.

The fact you can say this so casually humours me greatly.

It's only a couple hundred pages ago.

 

[Phaazoid]

dammit @ AustarusIV I can't look at your posts without laughing now that new avi is too good

Someone needs to make a Riddler Ridley and a Sakurai Batman so we can have him say

RIDDLE ME THIS SAKURAI
@Alloftheartistsinthisthread get on it

I'd make that my sig or something if Ridley was confirmed xD

@SchAlternate you may own page 900 but I have page 921. mine is obviously better.

 

[Ridles the Space Pirate]

dammit @ AustarusIV I can't look at your posts without laughing now that new avi is too good

Someone needs to make a Riddler Ridley and a Sakurai Batman so we can have him say

RIDDLE ME THIS SAKURAI
@Alloftheartistsinthisthread get on it

I'd make that my sig or something if Ridley was confirmed xD

NANANANANANANANA SAKURAI

 

[Iddis]

dammit @ AustarusIV I can't look at your posts without laughing now that new avi is too good

Someone needs to make a Riddler Ridley and a Sakurai Batman so we can have him say

RIDDLE ME THIS SAKURAI
@Alloftheartistsinthisthread get on it

I'd make that my sig or something if Ridley was confirmed xD

I was literally thinking that at work last night "Ridl-ey this Samus" that and Ridl-ey Elmo, haha

 

[Captain Vollkorn]

Could it be that the shadow is just ridley standing on a platform, jumping a few times and then dashng away and that the shadaw is that huge because of the light and the lava?

 

[GraveEclipse567]

dammit @ AustarusIV I can't look at your posts without laughing now that new avi is too good

Someone needs to make a Riddler Ridley and a Sakurai Batman so we can have him say

RIDDLE ME THIS SAKURAI
@Alloftheartistsinthisthread get on it

I'd make that my sig or something if Ridley was confirmed xD

@SchAlternate you may own page 900 but I have page 921. mine is obviously better.

I'm so tempted to do that but I don't have any idea how to draw Ridley and the only way I can get images I draw onto the internet is via 3DS which as the quality of a camera from the 1940s that has a dirty lens.

 

[Captain Vollkorn]

Could it be that the shadow is just ridley standing on a platform, jumping a few times and then dashng away and that the shadaw is that huge because of the light and the lava?

 

[GraveEclipse567]

Could it be that the shadow is just ridley standing on a platform, jumping a few times and then dashng away and that the shadaw is that huge because of the light and the lava?

The platforms are on the sides of the stage, while Ridley is clearly towards the middle.

 

[Captain Vollkorn]

Ps Im a random guy on miiverse: Oh Sakurai-san may i lick your shoes?

it could be that the shadow travels there because of the light or the platforms could move within the battle

 

[AustarusIV]

dammit @ AustarusIV I can't look at your posts without laughing now that new avi is too good

I don't change avatars until I make a hundred additional posts, so you're just going to have to get used to Charidley for time being.

 

[Phaazoid]

I don't change avatars until I make a hundred additional posts, so you're just going to have to get used to Charidley for time being.

I wasn't asking you to change. Please never change. <3

 

[GraveEclipse567]

it could be that the shadow travels there because of the light or the platforms could move within the battle

The platforms have their own shadows, we should be able to see that

 

[Captain Vollkorn]

okay never mind was just an idea without the clip

 

[Xenorange]

The platforms have their own shadows, we should be able to see that

Not if the platforms are conveniently offscreen, which appears to be the case. I personally think Ridley is simply using up/side B to travel between the platforms.

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

The platforms have their own shadows, we should be able to see that

The shadows from the platforms on the WiiU Battlefield move along with the sun.

What about Pyrosphere? Is it possible for the lava to have its own "light" and make shadows move on that stage? I suppose the Wii U might have the hardware for something more advanced than buffer shadows.

 

[JaidynReiman]

I think its possible Ridley is on platforms, but I kinda doubt it because we can't see the shadows of the platforms. (Either way I still think its pretty clear evidence of a playable Ridley.)

 

[MischF]

I think its possible Ridley is on platforms, but I kinda doubt it because we can't see the shadows of the platforms. (Either way I still think its pretty clear evidence of a playable Ridley.)

I'm still wondering about what I said. Could he be considered "on the ground" but the way he is instead of walking when he is "on the ground" could he be hovering or slightly flying above the ground?

 

[Phaazoid]

I really dislike shadow speculation, it's non-specific, and doesn't amount to much. but there is something easily viewable, and that is the fact that he's flapping his wings the entire time - this implies he is not on the ground.

 

[Xenorange]

I really dislike shadow speculation, it's non-specific, and doesn't amount to much. but there is something easily viewable, and that is the fact that he's flapping his wings the entire time - this implies he is not on the ground.

Well, we can at least make educated guesses on his size with the shadow right?

 

[Phaazoid]

Well, we can at least make educated guesses on his size with the shadow right?

I wouldn't go as far as educated. There are so many things that can change size of an object based off of its shadow - angle of camera from object, light source angle, size of object, ect. It's why shadow puppets can look huge. Since we don't have access to Sm4sh's lighting engine, we have no way of correctly estimating Ridley's size. We don't know where he is in proportion to the camera, other than he is, in some random direction not in front of it, about a tail's length away. We don't know how high up he is, how far, where the light is from. He could be smaller than Pikachu or bigger than giga bowser. IMO the only useful info we got is the Roidley tail spike mixed with the lack of Roidley arms in the shadows kinda points to a new Ridley model.

Trying to estimate Ridley's size from is shadow is like trying to estimate the full CSS size from the demo CSS

 

[MischF]

I really dislike shadow speculation, it's non-specific, and doesn't amount to much. but there is something easily viewable, and that is the fact that he's flapping his wings the entire time - this implies he is not on the ground.

Well that's my point. I am wondering if instead of walking on the ground he sort of flies over it naturally. Idk how to describe it. But my point is he would still be flapping his wings even when he is "on the ground". I'm just curious because it could be done to give Ridley a more airborne feel even when he is on the ground.

 

[Phaazoid]

Well that's my point. I am wondering if instead of walking on the ground he sort of flies over it naturally. Idk how to describe it. But my point is he would still be flapping his wings even when he is "on the ground". I'm just curious because it could be done to give Ridley a more airborne feel even when he is on the ground.

Well, the short answer is, we don't know, and can't really. That's literally all the footage he has. It's an interesting theory, one that's made its rounds a few times. I like the picture of it, personally, but have no idea how likely it is. I guess we'll know in time.

 

[CrypticSpark]

I'm still wondering about what I said. Could he be considered "on the ground" but the way he is instead of walking when he is "on the ground" could he be hovering or slightly flying above the ground?

I thought he was hovering across the ground, based on the fact he seems to move across the screen following Pikachu with no increase in height, which wouldn't be possible on the platforms from the looks of it , re-watched some footage because I thought they moved but they're all static so there's no way Ridley could have been using them

 

[Xenorange]

I wouldn't go as far as educated. There are so many things that can change size of an object based off of its shadow - angle of camera from object, light source angle, size of object, ect. It's why shadow puppets can look huge. Since we don't have access to Sm4sh's lighting engine, we have no way of correctly estimating Ridley's size. We don't know where he is in proportion to the camera, other than he is, in some random direction not in front of it, about a tail's length away. We don't know how high up he is, how far, where the light is from. He could be smaller than Pikachu or bigger than giga bowser. IMO the only useful info we got is the Roidley tail spike mixed with the lack of Roidley arms in the shadows kinda points to a new Ridley model.

Trying to estimate Ridley's size from is shadow is like trying to estimate the full CSS size from the demo CSS

Oh, I see, that makes sense.

 

[Phaazoid]

Oh, I see, that makes sense.

People have put a lot of effort into trying to estimate Ridley's size based off of his shadow in this thread. And while the effort is admirable, the part of me that remembers my optics units in physics knows that most of it's bunk. Coloring in a shadow and using that to try and estimate area of the actual object can have a ridiculously high margin of error in certain cases. And we know that this clip was made very carefully, who knows how that was actually angled.

 

[CrypticSpark]

Though there is some wild theory I just thought up, what if near the end of the pyrosphere video where we see his tail he's jumping onto the platform and him getting off is what makes the shadow look different when he turns around.

*need to check footage again

debunked my own thing, tail seems to just appear when he's hovering without moving

 

[Phaazoid]

just imo hovering doesn't require that much flapping

it's really hard to tell though

 

[MischF]

People have put a lot of effort into trying to estimate Ridley's size based off of his shadow in this thread. And while the effort is admirable, the part of me that remembers my optics units in physics knows that most of it's bunk. Coloring in a shadow and using that to try and estimate area of the actual object can have a ridiculously high margin of error in certain cases. And we know that this clip was made very carefully, who knows how that was actually angled.

Just out of curiosity, do you think it is possible for people to use the pic of the part of his tail that was shown? I'd assume it isn't enough or too inconclusive but like I said I was just wondering.

 

[Phaazoid]

Just out of curiosity, do you think it is possible for people to use the pic of the part of his tail that was shown? I'd assume it isn't enough or too inconclusive but like I said I was just wondering.

Nah, it only flashes in front of the camera for a split second, and we only see the very tip, so it could have come from literally any direction that we can't see. He could be wrapping the camera with his tail for all we know.

 

[GraveEclipse567]

Oasis_S did a size comparison using the tail back when the Direct was recent (400 pages ago) and Ridley turned out to be much larger than Bowser but in scale with Samus as they were in Other m. No idea how accurate that was.

 

[Phaazoid]

Oasis_S did a size comparison using the tail back when the Direct was recent (400 pages ago) and Ridley turned out to be much larger than Bowser but in scale with Samus as they were in Other m. No idea how accurate that was.

It would be really accurate, but only if they were using the same model Oasis used to compare it to.

However, we really don't know the model yet. In the shadow, Ridley doesn't have Roidley's arms, but the tail spike seems to be exclusively Roidley's.

Once again, it comes down to, we really haven't been given enough to make a solid guess.

 

[Dark Phazon]

It's astonishing that this thread is going to have 1000 pages before we know Ridley fate......