Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

[The King of Skulls]

I think we won't see Ridley at E3 if he is a playable character. I think on the website we are close to the starting roster of the game. The pyrosphere stage will give us our answer nonetheless. I see three possible outcomes concerning this stage at E3 ;

-is shown with Ridley as boss (dead end 100%)
-is shown with another boss than Ridley (win situation for Ridley at 99%)
-is not shown at E3 (65/35 for Ridley, I can't think about Sakurai not trying to hide something at this point if it happens)

But I guess we won't directly see him at E3.

You,sir, are inspiring, or at least deserving of respect. You managed to not believe in Ridley to the fullest extent without offending anyone! If only more could be like you!

 

[Captain Fun]

I don't think his flapping was the result of multiple jumps, since he doesn't seem to get much height off of them. He seems to stay at, more or less, the same altitude until after he's done doing whatever it was with Pikachu. Kinda hard to tell from a shadow either way.

On the topic of gliding, it was only confirmed to be removed for Pit, but we haven't seen Charizard use it either to my knowledge.

Quit crying and preying to god over a video game character that is a boss character.

I doubt Ridley's inclusion too and all but...do you have anything intelligent to say or are you just here to be a douche?

 

[Dark Phazon]

UMMMM NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Please tellme you are not really 24...........

 

[Peter5747]

Please tellme you are not really 24...........

That is none of your business stay on topic

 

[Deleted member]

I don't think his flapping was the result of multiple jumps, since he doesn't seem to get much height off of them. He seems to stay at, more or less, the same altitude until after he's done doing whatever it was with Pikachu. Kinda hard to tell from a shadow either way.

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I find it interesting though because at the end of the footage with the Ridley Shadow it almost looks to me as if he moves backwards in a non-boss-like manner, almost as if it was a second jump

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

easy to dominate by beeing scared and reporting to the admins ROFLMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Ya are easy to manipulate. Ridley is a cancer in smash bros as a playable character.

Unless you have new, unnoticed evidence for Boss Ridley, besides his placement in the Yellow Devil section and the "Other Boss character appearances" subtitle, please leave.

As of now, you are contributing nothing of discussion.

 

[Peter5747]

I don't think his flapping was the result of multiple jumps, since he doesn't seem to get much height off of them. He seems to stay at, more or less, the same altitude until after he's done doing whatever it was with Pikachu. Kinda hard to tell from a shadow either way.

On the topic of gliding, it was only confirmed to be removed for Pit, but we haven't seen Charizard use it either to my knowledge.
I doubt Ridley's inclusion too and all but...do you have anything intelligent to say or are you just here to be a douche?

being a douche because ridley is not a playable character. Ya are being ignorant. Accept reality quit dreaming and preying over something that is impossible ridley being playable. He is just a boss character

 

[IsmaR]

I was just joking around. No need to be rude....

Telling you not to troll is rude? Given your warning history in here, I would think you know better than to dispute anything in public. If you have any issues with anything, take it to forum support.

In the mean time I'd advise against lingering in this thread if you've got nothing to add to the discussion.

 

[Dark Phazon]

You,sir, are inspiring, or at least deserving of respect. You managed to not believe in Ridley to the fullest extent without offending anyone! If only more could be like you!

Lets clone him like Ridley

Edit: Woww......20+ Users and 15 Guests?
Its not E3 yet Guyz.....

 

[Peter5747]

Telling you not to troll is rude? Given your warning history in here, I would think you know better than to dispute anything in public. If you have any issues with anything, take it to forum support.

In the mean time I'd advise against lingering in this thread if you've got nothing to add to the discussion.

So just because you don't agree automatically I am trolling. That logic is sad. Poor ridley humans

 

[Morbi]

being a douche because ridley is not a playable character. Ya are being ignorant. Accept reality quit dreaming and preying over something that is impossible ridley being playable. He is just a boss character

I apologize, your use of the word "preying" is bothering me, do you mean "praying"?

 

[True Blue Warrior]

I apologize, your use of the word "preying" is bothering me, do you mean "praying"?

No he doesn't. He clearly is referring to your animalistic need to eat fictional flesh.

 

[Peter5747]

Unless you have new, unnoticed evidence for Boss Ridley, besides his placement in the Yellow Devil section and the "Other Boss character appearances" subtitle, please leave.

As of now, you are contributing nothing of discussion.

Watch the smash direct that is plenty of evidence. You like the others are just in denial

 

[Hotfeet444]

Quit crying and preying to god over a video game character that is a boss character.

Errrrmmm...how about I'll do as I please and not listen to the antics of a nobody? Okay? Good, thanks Pumpkin.

That guy...

Made me want to blend out both of my eyes with a hand-held blender. If I'm not mistaken, Ridley's shadow proportions are perfectly feasible to be a playable dude providing he, I don't know, crouched like in (almost) every Metroid Game ever. Maybe his wings appear too large, but those are easily folded because, you know, animals tend to fold their wings when not in use(the only exception would be insects like butterflies or dragonflies...but Ridley is neither of those.)

I'm not saying that the shadow isn't total proof he's a playable character or what because it's a bloody shadow(as good as S.O.B. and the ilk's shadow work as been, it's not concrete as, say, his actual body. However, the fact remains about the shadow is that his wings, much like Prime 1's Meta-Ridley are massive compared to his body. Last I checked, Other Ridley's wings weren't that big.

Finally, saying someone would be awkward smaller just because you think so is the dumbest, meat headed thing I have ever seen. This is coming from a guy who's best friend told him King K. Rool wouldn't be in the game because he was too ugly. I don't think the work of a small team of modders compares to a full scale project undertaken by a team of skilled developers. Even if he did look awkward, it's not like Ridley is a bloody ballerina dancer. Even large, he looks kind of awkward.

Finally, number of games =/= placement. I hope to god that Jiggs is cut to prove that. I have nothing against Jigglypuff, but I really think she should step down. Mewtwo would be a much better fighter, in my opinion. But that's aside the point, that guy should be banned from the internet.

I'm fine with you being against Ridley if you can think of honestly good reasons, but spewing opinionated judgment does not nor will ever qualify as legitimate reason.

But didn't you know? Your opinions are always right as long as you believe they are! You wanna believe you can fly? Jump out that 2 story window and believe with all your might! You'll be a natural Peter Pan in no time...and by no time I mean the time between the jump and the ground of course.

No but seriously this guy's so far out there.

 

[Captain Fun]

being a douche because ridley is not a playable character. Ya are being ignorant. Accept reality quit dreaming and preying over something that is impossible ridley being playable. He is just a boss character

I doubt Ridley's inclusion too and all

reading comprehension ha ha what even IS that

 

[SmashAdr]

Ridley is a stage hazard, Sakurai didn't show him because he has a new design, probably based on a new metroid game

 

[The King of Skulls]

There is a saying, I do believe: "Nothing brings people together like the mutual hatred of another."

I think a little adversity is a good way to keep this thread from going off track, since we can all bicker about Ridley's inclusion/exclusion/Idon'tevenknowanymore. Whether you like it or not, Ridley's fate is unconfirmed in a concrete way and that is that. We know that...

• He's in the game.
• He was alluded to in the Yellow Devil section.
• His shadow exists.

That's literally it. It's way too soon to say "Yep, definitely (dis)confirmed!" I'd like to believe Ridley is confirmed, but a lot of things are against him, and you can't ignore that. Remain faithful, and be rewarded.

Can anyone compare Other Ridley's wingspan to other incarnations? I seriously think Smash's Ridley's wings are much too large to be purely Other Ridley's.

 

[Morbi]

Watch the smash direct that is plenty of evidence. You like the others are just in denial

Where in the Smash Direct? The entire Direct? I watched the entire program; however, Ridley was only alluded to once. There was no objective evidence that would indicate Ridley as a boss character.

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

I don't think his flapping was the result of multiple jumps, since he doesn't seem to get much height off of them. He seems to stay at, more or less, the same altitude until after he's done doing whatever it was with Pikachu. Kinda hard to tell from a shadow either way.

Ah, so its either Ridley cribbing Brawl Pit's Up B and idling for a bit, or some brand new flying mechanic to make him mechanically unusual.

I'd wager that it's the former, with a slightly longer recovery time.

Watch the smash direct that is plenty of evidence. You like the others are just in denial

You're being vague. Define what evidence you have, or I will have no choice but to assume you're lying.

 

[Shinru202]

My personal list of qualifications also include a humanoid shape and the ability to be reasonably scaled down. I don't expect Grima or Hewdraw or Giygas or Mother Brain to be a playable character in future Smash titles due to size. Ridley CAN be reasonably scaled down, as he's twice Samus's size, minimum, while Grima, well...

Am I allowed to say he's too big? Because if he's workable, I'd gladly support him.

Grima would make a fantastic newcomer and a Fire Emblem villain...no seriously, the dragon could work...just not in this form
SPOILER ALERT for those who didn't play/complete Fire Emblem Awakening

Spoiler

Grima in Human Form

The Avatar (My Unit) is technically the Villain of FE Awakening since the Avatar is Grima's "Heart"

My Unit can use both Sword and Magic...even be a spell-fencer...Forget Chrom. I WANT My Unit to Join the fight

The Avatar could even get GENDER SWAP just like

As for A final Smash; THIS would be the most BADASS (and probably broken) Final Smashes in the game

SPOILER]

 

[egaddmario]

So most of the newcomers have a unique mechanic to differentiate them from other cast members- Villager has his tree (which Sakurai commented on it in the developer direct), Megaman has projectile jabs and Fsmash, WFT has a Down Special buff move, Rosalina has a puppet set-up, and Little Mac has his charge meter. Who's to say Ridley can't have an air grab or even elongated flight? Sakurai's doing new things with these newcomers, this is an easy explanation to Ridley's shadow "hovering".

 

[Dark Phazon]

Watch the smash direct that is plenty of evidence. You like the others are just in denial

I saw the direct and i saw Ridley's shadow shown after Sakurai was explaining how Yellow Devil works.

What did you watch? Was there a Developer Direct part 2 i missed?

 

[Yoshi-Thomas]

Wait, there is a difference between not believing Ridley will be in and hating Ridley.
I think that Ridley will NOT be playable, but I really would like to have him playable. Hating a character just for the sake of hating a character and his followers is just childish.
Even if the shadow analysis was great, I still doubt about him. But that's not a reason to start a war against those who believe in his inclusion by calling them "blind morons" or just saying "I'm right, you are wrong." Let's keep this discussion at a civilized level without being offensive, believers or not !

 

[Deleted member]

So looking at the Ridley Shadow footage again: it seems that he comes on-screen and then seems to let out a roar of some sort before flapping in place for a couple of seconds (watch the movement of the torso and wings just when he stops and before he flaps in place). After this is when he begins to move forward again briefly before flapping and seeming to move backwards (per the movement of his shadow).
Thoughts?

 

[Peter5747]

Ah, so its either Ridley cribbing Brawl Pit's Up B and idling for a bit, or some brand new flying mechanic to make him mechanically unusual.

I'd wager that it's the former, with a slightly longer recovery time.

You're being vague. Define what evidence you have, or I will have no choice but to assume you're lying.

Go to youtube and watch the smash direct and quit being ignorant. Ridley is a boss character

 

[The King of Skulls]

So most of the newcomers have a unique mechanic to differentiate them from other cast members- Villager has his tree (which Sakurai commented on it in the developer direct), Megaman has projectile jabs and Fsmash, WFT has a Down Special buff move, Rosalina has a puppet set-up, and Little Mac has his charge meter. Who's to say Ridley can't have an air grab or even elongated flight? Sakurai's doing new things with these newcomers, this is an easy explanation to Ridley's shadow "hovering".

Ninja Frog also has a chargeable side special, which I don't think has been done before.

Edit: Luigi. Almost forgot.

 

[Snagrio]

Just three more weeks, just three more weeks, just three more weeks...

 

[Peter5747]

I saw the direct and i saw Ridley's shadow shown after Sakurai was explaining how Yellow Devil works.

What did you watch? Was there a Developer Direct part 2 i missed?

so he did not say boss character hmmmmm that denial

 

[Morbi]

so he did not say boss character hmmmmm that denial

To be fair, it was an edited game-play clip over an audio clip. One must actually comprehend what Sakurai was attempting to convey. It is overt that you have the surface message, but there is much more than meets the eye in this specific instance. I would agree with your sentiment if Sakurai objectively confirmed anything. Alas, he did not. It was another ambiguity akin to the "an enemy may appear at any second" picture of the day. There is no clear answer that illuminates Ridley's fate.

 

[Hotfeet444]

The intelligence levels here are peaking...oh wait no, my apologies, I was holding the meter upside down by mistake...are you people really wasting your time arguing with someone whose best argument is "LOL DENIAL!"? C'mon people, you're better than that, the bigots ain't worth the time nor the effort.

 

[Peter5747]

The admins here are full of ****. They reply to me now send me a strike or some **** on trolling, Ya are not even admins. A bunch of ridley ****oys. Can't wait to see all the characters at e3 and ridley shown as a boss character again. Oh and don't worry I will be back to clown the **** out of you ridley ****boys

 

[The King of Skulls]

so he did not say boss character hmmmmm that denial

It's not denial, it's stating a fact:

Ridley was not stated, in Sakurai's own words or in the words of the Translator, that Ridley is specifically a boss character. I will concede it was alluded to, but as I've said and will probably say a million times in both contexts of inclusion and exclusion...

It's a bloody SHADOW. Nothing can be derived from a shadow aside from general shape and actions. I feel as if everyone would've been better off if the shadow was just a huge vaguely shaped blob.

 

[Snagrio]

so he did not say boss character hmmmmm that denial

Tell me, don't you have something more productive to do with your time besides arguing with people you don't even know about moving pixels?

 

[Morbi]

The intelligence levels here are peaking...oh wait no, my apologies, I was holding the meter upside down by mistake...are you people really wasting your time arguing with someone whose best argument is "LOL DENIAL!"? C'mon people, you're better than that, the bigots ain't worth the time nor the effort.

Yes; they are worth the time and effort. Are you; perhaps, insinuating that I am incompetent because I wish to have a discussion with someone who shares a different opinion? Insults will get you no where, friend.

 

[Deleted member]

The intelligence levels here are peaking...oh wait no, my apologies, I was holding the meter upside down by mistake...are you people really wasting your time arguing with someone whose best argument is "LOL DENIAL!"? C'mon people, you're better than that, the bigots ain't worth the time nor the effort.

I'm trying to talk about Ridley's shadow movement over here, but I guess right now it's just a conversation with myself.

 

[Dark Phazon]

so he did not say boss character hmmmmm that denial

''He said boss characters''
as in characters like Bowser/DDD/Ganondorf/Ridley
''make appearences on other stages not just this one''

Its a shame you can only interpret that one way........

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

Grima would make a fantastic newcomer...no seriously, the dragon could work...just not in this form
SPOILER ALERT for those who didn't play/complete Fire Emblem Awakening

Well, the point is that Slifer the Sky Dragon!Grima would have no chance of being a playable character because he's both nonhumanoid and really goddamn huge. Same with Mother Brain, because she has no arms or legs to fight (and even as Brainzilla, it would be odd to see Mother Brain with a not-so giant brain) and Giygas because he's a giant red swirling mass.

The intelligence levels here are peaking...oh wait no, my apologies, I was holding the meter upside down by mistake...are you people really wasting your time arguing with someone whose best argument is "LOL DENIAL!"? C'mon people, you're better than that, the bigots ain't worth the time nor the effort.

Apologies, I was hoping for some profound insight from a detractor on how a theoretical Bossley would work.

 

[Hotfeet444]

When will you speak in your vids feliciafag. Who the **** uses a female name in a thread exposed

Clearly a prime example of both maturity and intelligence. Five Stars! A+! Four Stars!

Yes; they are worth the time and effort. Are you; perhaps, insinuating that I am incompetent because I wish to have a discussion with someone who shares a different opinion? Insults will get you no where, friend.

I'm saying it ain't worth the time nor the effort. Not to mention it's usually essential that the opposing party is actually willing to listen to your points and take it for more than just a denial streak.

 

[IsmaR]

Don't bother giving him the time of day, guys.

Wait, there is a difference between not believing Ridley will be in and hating Ridley.
I think that Ridley will NOT be playable, but I really would like to have him playable. Hating a character just for the sake of hating a character and his followers is just childish.
Even if the shadow analysis was great, I still doubt about him. But that's not a reason to start a war against those who believe in his inclusion by calling them "blind morons" or just saying "I'm right, you are wrong." Let's keep this discussion at a civilized level without being offensive, believers or not !

Now you, I like.

 

[Yoshi-Thomas]

Peter5747, admitting Ridley is a boss (I also think it's the case), why do you think Sakurai didn't mention him directly ? Surpris for later, or model not finished ?