Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

[Hotfeet444]

Unfortunately, no one was promptly shot. What a shame. The only thing that was lost is our...er...i don`t know how its called in english...patience...er...cool...er...i don`t know how its called.

I believe the term is "all of the above".

Also, I got bored, so I drew Ridley again in Miiverse:

 

[Phaazoid]

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"....Just ignore them..."

xD good thing i'm not good at debates....

Don't worry about it

I like to think of myself as very good at debating

and I would say exactly the same thing

just ignore them

 

[SchAlternate]

It certainly seems that you've all had quite the...erm...interesting and totally not-at-all time wasting experiences since I left to get hooked on Blazblue: ChronoPhantasma. ...Huh...are there any casualties? Preferably any brain-cells?

Well, Nin10doUltra showed up here, so you may realize how merrily that went.

 

[Hotfeet444]

Well, Nin10doUltra showed up here, so you may realize how merrily that went.

As "Merrily" as tripping I bet...you all have my sincerest condolences.

Well, it's no skin off my back. After all, I believe the term is "In order to appreciate something that's truly good, you must look at the alternative...something that's truly bad".

 

[TheNin10doUltra]

Well, Nin10doUltra showed up here, so you may realize how merrily that went.

Is there something you wanted to tell me?

 

[SchAlternate]

Is there something you wanted to tell me?

ER-- I WAS TOTALLY NOT BEING SARCASTIC, I SWEAR! WE DID HAVE FUN, PLS DON'T KILL ME.

Ha ha, just kidding.

Though, to my surprise, you were actually pretty cool headed back there. It was the other dude with a Little Mac avatar that was causing all the trouble.

 

[TheNin10doUltra]

I don't wanna cause any trouble here. Just wanted to chill with you guys honestly.

 

[ultimatekoopa]

He'd might have been more disappointed in some disciples taking the bait earlier from a couple obvious attention seekers that were just there to start a pissing contest.

I don't wanna cause any trouble here. Just wanted to chill with you guys honestly.

A wise choice

 

[SchAlternate]

GUYS! OMG! RIDLEY CONFIRMED!

Spoiler

 

[Starcutter]

I haven't been here in a while, but did anyone find out that the FD version of Pyrosphere lacks the lava in the background?

Maybe lava is a stage hazard....?

 

[AndreaAC]

"Good....everything seems back to normal...."

:3 yeah....

 

[BaganSmashBros]

GUYS! OMG! RIDLEY CONFIRMED!

Spoiler

YAY! Home-run bat and sports outift confirmed as stage hazards on Pyrosphere!
Lava being a stage hazard would be a lot better than ridley being a boss. But those magma creatures from Other M would be even better.

 

[McDuckletts]

GUYS! OMG! RIDLEY CONFIRMED!

Spoiler

those tabs though

 

[PlasticBag]

those tabs though

"25 sexy ways to use lube"

 

[OblivionWolf]

I haven't been here in a while, but did anyone find out that the FD version of Pyrosphere lacks the lava in the background?

Maybe lava is a stage hazard....?

Yes alot of people think this too.

http://i.imgur.com/GLyT8Im.png

I'm still thinking those purple things under the stage are gonna be a stage hazard too. They must serve a purpose. Sakurai is hiding all the details of this stage. Once Ridley is revealed at E3 as playable then Sakurai will tell us the real stage hazards.

 

[Shaboba]

GUYS! OMG! RIDLEY CONFIRMED!

Spoiler

That "NEWCOMER" with the Metroid symbol next to it made me pee a little.*0*

 

[Hotfeet444]

Yes alot of people think this too.

http://i.imgur.com/GLyT8Im.png

I'm still thinking those purple things under the stage are gonna be a stage hazard too. They must serve a purpose. Sakurai is hiding all the details of this stage. Once Ridley is revealed at E3 as playable then Sakurai will tell us the real stage hazards.

I believe those purple things are stabilizers to keep the stage intact somehow. ...Don't ask me, it just looks like that.

 

[Oasis_S]

It is my dream to take this posable Ridley model, granted to me by the mighty Angel of Glory, and use a 3D printing service to create my very own miniature (TO-SCALE!) Ridley figure. Probably with a Samus too.

But what pose? This is the greatest decision of my life.

 

[Starcutter]

It is my dream to take this posable Ridley model, granted to me by the mighty Angel of Glory, and use a 3D printing service to create my very own miniature (TO-SCALE!) Ridley figure. Probably with a Samus too.

But what pose? This is the greatest decision of my life.

@Angelglory 's pose with the bunny ears

because easter

 

[Knuckles the Knuckles]

It is my dream to take this posable Ridley model, granted to me by the mighty Angel of Glory, and use a 3D printing service to create my very own miniature (TO-SCALE!) Ridley figure. Probably with a Samus too.

But what pose? This is the greatest decision of my life.

Draw him like one of your French spacepirates....

 

[aldelaro5]

Draw him like one of your French spacepirates....

My first language is french but I'm bad at drawing

 

[Shinru202]

Ridley in a Bunny Hood while holding a Lip's Stick.

 

[TypicalRidleyNurd]

I think Ridley should be the size of ZSS's boots!

 

[Starcutter]

I think Ridley should be the size of ZSS's boots!

so, too big, then?

 

[bobadz]

Just replace Gene with Sakurai. And everyone elsewhere the confirmed cast.

 

[TCT~Phantom]

To be honest, Ridley is THE wildcard. He Could be playable, he could not. There is evidence for both sides at this moment. Too Big seems to be a dying argument, its now the role as a boss. The lava, wonkiness of the shadow, and size proportions of it all lean towards playable, but its up in the air.

I want Ridley due to the fact he would be an interesting newcomer who deserves the 2nd/3rd Metroid slot (depending on ZSS views). Plain and simple. I want him only 2nd to King K Rool at the moment.

By the way @ TheNin10doUltra , do you not desire Ridley do to thinking he would not work, and if so, do you see him as deserving to get in based on his series credentials? This is me just being curious, and welcome to the boards...

 

[Shaking//very]

GUYS! OMG! RIDLEY CONFIRMED!

Spoiler

this i would









not mind at all

 

[AndreaAC]

I had to draw this....but i just couldn't put Ridley on Daisy's sport outfit...it is WAY too evil.....and Sketchy as always....

 

[TypicalRidleyNurd]

To be honest, Ridley is THE wildcard. He Could be playable, he could not. There is evidence for both sides at this moment. Too Big seems to be a dying argument, its now the role as a boss. The lava, wonkiness of the shadow, and size proportions of it all lean towards playable, but its up in the air.

I want Ridley due to the fact he would be an interesting newcomer who deserves the 2nd/3rd Metroid slot (depending on ZSS views). Plain and simple. I want him only 2nd to King K Rool at the moment.

By the way @ TheNin10doUltra , do you not desire Ridley do to thinking he would not work, and if so, do you see him as deserving to get in based on his series credentials? This is me just being curious, and welcome to the boards...

Well if you think about it, Sakurai doesn't have time to try and make configure Ridley playable in a certain form. This would just only result in delaying of Smash 4. Anyways I think Ridley should be shrunk to the size of a pebble!

 

[Morbi]

To be honest, Ridley is THE wildcard. He Could be playable, he could not. There is evidence for both sides at this moment. Too Big seems to be a dying argument, its now the role as a boss. The lava, wonkiness of the shadow, and size proportions of it all lean towards playable, but its up in the air.

I want Ridley due to the fact he would be an interesting newcomer who deserves the 2nd/3rd Metroid slot (depending on ZSS views). Plain and simple. I want him only 2nd to King K Rool at the moment.

By the way @ TheNin10doUltra , do you not desire Ridley do to thinking he would not work, and if so, do you see him as deserving to get in based on his series credentials? This is me just being curious, and welcome to the boards...

Yes, my sister believes he is the only 50/50 character depending on your interpretation. I am obviously one of his advocates; she on the other hand, is one of his detractors. The Pyrosphere quote was interpreted as playable Ridley by me, and stage-hazard Ridley by her. The Direct was interpreted as playable Ridley by me, and boss character by her. Whenever we try to debate the issue, we realize that there really isn't any evidence for or against the character. I mean, when I used to oppose the notion of playable Ridley, I would cite Sakurai and assert that "he wouldn't feel right" or "the 3DS version is most probably going to be lackluster." She honestly believes that Sakurai is incompetent enough to tease Ridley to the consumer base with no pay off. So you can really take it in any direction without being utterly fallacious.

 

[Anomilus]

GUYS! OMG! RIDLEY CONFIRMED!

Spoiler

Ridley plays baseball using a Bowling Ball...

LIKE A BOSS.

Err... "BAWSS" Boss, not that boss. You know what I mean... Oh never mind...

 

[TheNin10doUltra]

To be honest, Ridley is THE wildcard. He Could be playable, he could not. There is evidence for both sides at this moment. Too Big seems to be a dying argument, its now the role as a boss. The lava, wonkiness of the shadow, and size proportions of it all lean towards playable, but its up in the air.

I want Ridley due to the fact he would be an interesting newcomer who deserves the 2nd/3rd Metroid slot (depending on ZSS views). Plain and simple. I want him only 2nd to King K Rool at the moment.

By the way @ TheNin10doUltra , do you not desire Ridley do to thinking he would not work, and if so, do you see him as deserving to get in based on his series credentials? This is me just being curious, and welcome to the boards...

I understand what you mean. Ridley does deserve a spot in smash because you know hes the leader of the space pirates but he would look very absurd to me.

 

[BaganSmashBros]

I understand what you mean Ridley deserving a spot in smash because you know hes the leader of the space pirates but he would look very absurd to me.

Who doesn`t in Nintendo`s games? Its mascot is a guy who jumps on walking mushrooms with fangs, turtles with wings, grows by eating mushrooms with eyes, saves princess Peach, etc.

 

[TypicalRidleyNurd]

I understand what you mean. Ridley does deserve a spot in smash because you know hes the leader of the space pirates but he would look very absurd to me.

You just gotta BELIEVE!!

 

[OblivionWolf]

I understand what you mean. Ridley does deserve a spot in smash because you know hes the leader of the space pirates but he would look very absurd to me.

If I knew nothing about Nintendo or Super Smash and someone told me all these characters were in a fighting game together.....

http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs49/f/2009/221/7/b/Super_Smash_Bros__Brawl_by_ChetRippo.png

I'd might say this whole cast of characters would look very absurd to me.....Ridley would fit in very well with the rest of these wacky characters.

 

[Anomilus]

Who doesn`t in Nintendo`s games? Its mascot is a guy who jumps on walking mushrooms with fangs, turtles with wings, grows by eating mushrooms with eyes, saves princess Peach, etc.

I think you know what he means.

I blame the way Ridley's been portrayed visually in the various games and the resulting disconnect between the games due to being on various systems. Not to mention Ridley's relevance is underplayed in the games 'cause they usually focused on gameplay.

I've said it many times, but as somebody who first got into Metroid from playing Super Metroid, Ridley was impressive, but his size was not one of things that impressed me. There were plenty of bosses larger than Ridley. I also happened to like almost ALL the bosses for different reasons.

Ridley - The "Unstoppable Intimidator" boss
Torizo - The "big surprise/trap boss"
Spore Spawn - The "bizarre looking plant" boss with that smooth theme"
Kraid - THE "Giant boss"
Crocomire - The melty-skinned lava boss (I really liked him)
Phantoon - The extra-bizarre eyeball-mouth boss that was supposed to be extra-difficult (I also really liked him)
Draygon - The large-yet-FAST boss that dies to Grappling Hook (unfortunately)

And of course...

Ridley - The boss that both it and you go all out against each other until there is ONLY ONE... (admittedly, the first time I got to this point my friend played it. Not 'cause it was hard, but 'cause I couldn't find my way further through Lower Norfair, he showed me, then he just kind of kept on playing... =/)

And there's Mother Brain of course. But point is, every boss had their own unique feel to them. And "huge" was something that really only belonged to Kraid. He was HUGE. He flaunted it. Almost everyone else was large because they're bosses and bosses were supposed to be large. Otherwise they'd just be thought of as normal-sized enemies that sponge bullets and have special background music themes.

I blame Metroid Fusion for truly beginning the bizarre notion that Ridley being huge was necessary. That he wasn't Ridley if he wasn't almost the size of the room. Metroid Zero Mission only helped this when once again they made Ridley unusually large (and lanky).

My problem with those two renditions: BOTH of them were easy and not nearly as opposing as in Super Metroid when he was smaller. SM Ridley was small enough that you could clear a jump over him. But it also meant he could be agile and aggressive and attack ruthlessly. And we LOVE that about Ridley. Fusion and ZM Ridley? Much larger and forced to move more predictably. Not nearly as engaging.

The 3D Metroids? Funnily enough the story's pretty similar. Prime 1 Meta-Ridley more or less is scaled similarly to Super Metroid Ridley sans the extra-large wings. Fast, agile, made for a great fight. Prime 3 Meta-Ridley? This is the one and ONLY time Ridley's sized is actually used to his advantage. And for what? A simple game of "shoot the flashing spots before Ridley slashes or bites ya". Did the job of helping the player get used tot he controls, but didn't do Ridley himself any favors. Jump far ahead to Omega Ridley where he's actually diminished in scale for the fight. Size once again is a mute attribute, yet he does just fine with a slew of attacks never before seen from our favorite Pirate leader.

...Oh, and Other M Ridley is pretty much a summarized version of the same situation: Size only used during cutscene. Otherwise muted during actual combat. Abilities and threatening factor comes from combative abilities, not from being large.

Finally and ultimately (as far as I'm concerned), the canon Metroid E-Manga has Ridley at a size that's actually somewhat smaller than even Super Metroid Ridley, and yet Ridley hold up extremely well as a brutal and wicked creature.

I honestly think people who want to categorize Ridley's size as so important that making him smaller would ruin him just weren't that interested in him to begin with as a character. He's just a video game boss to them.

 

[OblivionWolf]

Its not the fire ball throwing plumbers, its not the bodiless pink blob that copies your powers, its not the the physic large headed children, its not the gaint gorilla wearing a tie, its not the anthropomorphic space animals, its not the the console robot, its not the flat bodied silhouette, its not the blue super fast hedgehog wearing shoes, its not the penguin with thumbs carring a gaint hammer, its not the green MALE dinosaur who eats you and lays eggs, its not the angel boy, its not the spiked turtle who breaths fire (Could keep going) BUT its the purple space pterodactyl who is outlandish correct? I just wanna be sure.

 

[Dark Phazon]

@ Anomilus one of the greatest post i have seen/read on this forum.

RealTalk

 

[Anomilus]

Its not the fire ball throwing plumbers, its not the bodiless pink blob that copies your powers, its not the the physic large headed children, its not the gaint gorilla wearing a tie, its not the anthropomorphic space animals, its not the the console robot, its not the flat bodied silhouette, its not the blue super fast hedgehog wearing shoes, its not the penguin with thumbs carring a gaint hammer, its not the green MALE dinosaur who eats you and lays eggs, its not the angel boy, its not the spiked turtle who breaths fire (Could keep going) BUT its the purple space pterodactyl who is outlandish correct? I just wanna be sure.

Because he's BIGGER!

He's bigger than we used... to be...

...WAIT...!

(cookie if you guess the reference!)

 

[Gameboi834]

Like I said Ridley will not be in smash bros.

I just realized that there's so much wrong with this one statement.

• Ridley is in Melee's opening cut-scene, so he is in "smash bros"
• Ridley is in the Subspace Emissary, so he is in "smash bros"
  
• Ridley is in trophy/sticker form, so he is in "smash bros"
  
• Ridley is in Smash 4, be it a boss battle or a playable character, so he is in "smash bros"