The real reason Brawl was delayed-and why its longer than japans

[Drack]

I agree that that might be true for the PAL release. But American? They only need English. And check it out, all the screens we've seen have english text.

They've shown us English so far because that's what they have it for. Menus are both the easiest and the most critical. It's the big walls of text like trophy descriptions they're probably hammering out now.

And what about voice actors? How many pokéballs were available in the demos? More in the Japanese demos, right?

I'm not saying that when the Japanese game is 100% done the English version is 0% done. We've seen plenty of English. I'm saying that it's probably about 50-60% translated and there's still a lot of content that needs to be localized, and it's taking longer than expected.

 

[ShortFuse]

Um, the japanese version features both japanese and english.

Um, no it doesn't.

 

[TidalSpiral]

I disagree, as others said all kinds of gaming sites have had information about this the whole time. Just search for any random Sakurai update and you'll see tons of different sites with multitudes of different people commenting on each one. Seems like enough buzz to me, this isn't the multi-million advertising spectacle that is Halo and if indeed they delay it for making a commercial that just seems ludicrous.

I'm personally very affected by this change too, so I'm extra upset right now. On March 1st I'm leaving for a month and a half to work at a chemical plant so that means I won't get to play it before I leave. In fact I will probably cancel my order because I won't be home to pick it up. Looks like I got ****** this time. :-/ I'm sure the game will be all the better for this extra testing time though so it's no big deal.

 

[webrunner]

There's also word that there may be some technical issues with the servers- it would make sense to delay the US one more since the US will have a lot more hammering of those servers then the japanese would.

 

[Eszett]

not be a jounr

Cite your source or GTFO. It's just good journalism.

You must not be a journalist.

Journalists regularly conceal the identity of their sources in an effort to protect them and themselves in situations involving political exile - in many cases, when lives and livelihoods are at stake by revealing their sources.

That the original poster anonymized his source is exactly this. It's just good journalism.

 

[UrajKingofDarkness]

The month delay makes me a bit sad, but I have tons of unfinished games to whittle the while away with. I can live with a March 9 release, God forbid they push it back again.

 

[xbrinkx]

I don't buy this for a minute. They completely tear apart, chewed up, stepped on and killed the hype for the game having some commercials so a few casual gamers can go, "Oooh, I might buy that game." Ok, maybe I exaggerated the loss of hype, but seriously if that's the reason for the delay then obviously Nintendo has some issues. Besides, how hard is it to make a stupid "Wii would like to play" commericial and show 10 seconds of gameplay while show some guys jumping around and acting like it has motion control? And the Japanese game was only delayed a stinking week, probably because they didn't want to seem completely mean toward Americans, making them seem insensible. Bad marketing standpoint if you ask me. I'd be much more convinced for localization for the game if they haven't done too much. From what I hear is that the Dojo only scratches the surface of the game so it may only be 10% of the game translated or something. I'd be much more comfortable with no "ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO ME".

 

[DMAJohnson]

No offense, but if I hear one more thing about "my source tells me..." I swear that I'm going to kill a pikmin.

 

[kobefox2485]

i dont think the selling will matter, because people who have played super smash before all know of the new Brawl! anyway ill have to get the japanese version to get used to the new game, so i could be better when the US version comes out!

 

[BKBroiler]

from a source i cant reveal...

Never heard that one before.

Sounds like it could be right. We don't even have a commercial for the game...though I don't remember any for melee. *shrug*

Someone probably already posted this but...
melee..
http://youtube.com/watch?v=iATDdh0ZU5I
and the better one... (N64)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=UvljN9ycqLg

 

[Truegamer#1]

WHAT THEY NEED TO DO IS TO FIX ANY BUGS WHILE PLAYING WIFI...
no lag, etc....

 

[Bendario]

So, all those screens and the demo with English in them, they were all just a clever ruse? Are you telling me that there is a month's worth of stuff that has not been translated? That's a bunch of garbage.

Oh, and good job with being a cheap *** company that doesn't do ANY advertising NOA. That's just completely stupid.

 

[Bendario]

WHAT THEY NEED TO DO IS TO FIX ANY BUGS WHILE PLAYING WIFI...
no lag, etc....

:| ... Are you serious? Somebody tell me he's joking. You have GOT to be kidding!
do you think that lag is some kind of programming error? Lag is produced because you are trying to transmit a lot of data at impossible speeds across many, many miles. The very idea that one could "remove" lag is just... really stupid. It's not like developers can avoid having lag, you can't fix it.

 

[Krell]

unless u want it half English/ half Japanese.

Sounds fine with me.

 

[HuskytheGeek]

Sounds like NOA wants Brawl to be Halo 3. I say **** that and just get localization done.

 

[Krell]

Someone probably already posted this but...
melee..
http://youtube.com/watch?v=iATDdh0ZU5I
and the better one... (N64)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=UvljN9ycqLg

Wow, I can't believe I forgot about these two. Nostalgia, yea?

But seriously. Nintendo of America is completely at fault for not advertising for Brawl. They had so much time, and Nintendo of Japan had theirs weeks ago. NOA can't say not advertising justifies a delay. That is their own **** fault.
But, at least if they do get TV advertisements, they better be as epic as the N64 one was.

 

[kobefox2485]

at least a new cool awesome character please!!

 

[Diddy&Dixie4evr]

Sounds like NOA wants Brawl to be Halo 3. I say **** that and just get localization done.

I don't think they want it to be Halo 3, they want too destroy halo 3 in there first month sales. I bet nintendo and microsoft had a bet of who will sell more in the first month, Microsoft came out saying "Ha ha ha look at the sales of halo you will never beat that." then nintendo replied "Oh yeah well I bet brawl sells 3 times as many copies than halo." I think that is what they are setting out to do.

 

[Stiputation]

I don't understand.
They need to configure all of this when they announce the initial release date.

Thats what your supposed to do when you announce one, figure EVERYTHING, EVERY FLAW EVERY ON to make sure things run smoothly. Sakurai's team need to learn a little something about the Engineering design process.
Either that, or they should have made the first delay abit longer. You just don't wait this long before Brawl's release to delay a game. It screws peoples plans up. Now I'm going to have a Wii for about a month with no game to play x.x

Not to mention, even if they did have translation issues, I think the Japanese should have gotten theirs puhsed back alittle as well. Just to make them suffer :]

 

[Heavyarms2050]

The word I am hearing is that it was delayed due to problems with online play. Something came up bad in the last bit of large scale testing and they are trying to fix it before it is released.

I would imagine it is better for them to delay the game for a couple of weeks and have a pain free first couple of weeks for online play instead of having every ******* *****ing on internet about how Nintendo can't do online right or how it is ****ed up.

I got a source, who is connected and proven reliable in the past.

The last bit of online play testing brought up a bit of problems with the servers. I was not told exactly what but it is serious enough to delay the release of the game until it is sorted out. After they get it fixed for Japan you are going to have a delay while the changes and whatnot are translated and implemented for the US software.

The discs/game is already done and printed. I imagine there is a warehouse or two in Japan that are full of copies at this moment. It all has to do with the online servers. Like I said before, I would rather delay the game as Nintendo than have a ton of problems with the online portion. This even more important as this is the first "real" game that has real online options and play.

can be found on the neogaf forum, http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=157914&page=1074

according to this guy, the game is finish, but they're having problem with the online play when they try to do a large scale testing.

 

[IWontGetOverTheDam]

i haven't preordered. lol sorry nintendo. i still plan on getting it on release, though. =)

Well, well, here's the reason for your delay! Get him!!!

I would kill myself if I lived in Europe now.

 

[GoldenS1104]

from a source i cant reveal...the reason brawl was delayed

simply put, Nintendo of America made this decision, not Sakurai. brawls pre-order numbers weren't looking good, and Nintendo of America (NOA) wanted more time to get together the advertisements, commercials, magazine ads, and promotions to drive stronger first week sales. Another factor in the placement of the American delay is to give this part of the year stronger profit. My source had no details on this matter. The Japanese numbers are fine and the week delay is for a shortage of copies made. The game is finished in Japan in in full. NOA is still working on localization and the way brawl communicates with American routers. So in short, we simply will have to wait another extra month for Brawl , unless u want it half English/ half Japanese.

localization makes sense, but it shouldn't take that long, especially since the Japanese game has probably been finished for a couple of weeks. the only other explanation would be what you said about advertising and promotions. I find it hard to believe that they need it to boost sales during Q1, cause they'll have Mario Kart coming out at around the same time.

 

[LukewarmHoliday]

Remember guys...the Japanese version only got delayed a week. that removes fixing bugs from the game as an excuse
1. marketing reasons
2. buggy online
3. localization

 

[0211]

well NOA realized that it was hard to determine just how many ppl see the website...since so many ppl visit the site daily it receives multiple hits from the same person. NOA wants to be sure everyone is aware of Brawl, and is taking new approaches of advertising to get to the consumer base thats not tech savvy....the parent purchasing for the child.

and yes melee sells...but it was a large number over a large period of time.

NOA wants large numbers in a very short amount of time.

one quote mentioned was " If Halo 3 can do it, so can Smash3"

Now I call "CRAP!" on you.

Firstly, you've begun to continue with answers despite the fact that you originally claimed you had a 'source'. If you had said source, why would you not reveal this information in your original post.

Also, there are counters that only count hits for unique IP addresses. Nintendo could easily do this instead of counting each and every hit. In other words, your excuse is utter bull.

Also, the kids excited for thsi doesn't need their parents to be in the know about this game. The parents will buy it for their kids because the kid wants it. If they have any doubts, they'll do minute research. Seeing as I don't see any Manhunt 2 or Mass Effect scandals over Brawl, the parents will clear the game in their mind and make a purchase.

 

[Okysho]

Sounds like it could be right. We don't even have a commercial for the game...though I don't remember any for melee. *shrug*

You may not remember, but there actually was.,..

description:

an azn guy in (I think) an airport watching a samurai and a Mongolian duking it out (with swords) in a glass cube... after about two minutes the narrator comes on and says "That's not a fight..." (insert gameplay clips) "Super Smash bros brawl, only for Nintendo Gamecube"

 

[NDUDE]

I highly doubt that. Nintendo had PLENTY of time to advertise to their heart's content. Look at Halo 3. They started advertising and slapping Master Chief on everything they could about a month before launch. If Microsoft can do that with their biggest title, Nintendo can sure as hell do the same. They've got money to spare, seeing as how they're pretty much swimming in it now...

 

[Okysho]

Now I call "CRAP!" on you.

Firstly, you've begun to continue with answers despite the fact that you originally claimed you had a 'source'. If you had said source, why would you not reveal this information in your original post.

Also, there are counters that only count hits for unique IP addresses. Nintendo could easily do this instead of counting each and every hit. In other words, your excuse is utter bull.

Also, the kids excited for thsi doesn't need their parents to be in the know about this game. The parents will buy it for their kids because the kid wants it. If they have any doubts, they'll do minute research. Seeing as I don't see any Manhunt 2 or Mass Effect scandals over Brawl, the parents will clear the game in their mind and make a purchase.

What the heck are you saying? Regardless of how angry you may be, it does make sense. It's NOA's production line that holds us up now, whether it's advertising or making the game compatible with North American routers either way it's up to them now. The game is done, we can all attest to that. Japan will get it first. The only thing we can depend on Sakurai for is aspects about the game itself, not it's translations or immigration to North America. BRAWL IS DELAYED GET OVER IT! I DO, YOU DO! EVEN EUROPEANS HAVE TO AND THEY WAIT LONGER THAN US, STOP COMPLAINING!

 

[Meta_Sonic64]

I highly doubt that. Nintendo had PLENTY of time to advertise to their heart's content. Look at Halo 3. They started advertising and slapping Master Chief on everything they could about a month before launch. If Microsoft can do that with their biggest title, Nintendo can sure as hell do the same. They've got money to spare, seeing as how they're pretty much swimming in it now...

Could we be getting Smash Juice for Brawl to help replenish us for Wi-Fi. What flavors will be available? I need a slogan

 

[maxpower1227]

Mods, can we get this thread moved to the Obviously Fake "Leaks" subforum?

 

[mario brawler]

Halo is good. It is the best game series i have ever played. So shut up.

*gasp*you cant say that on the boards!smash bros is the best series...EVER!!!

the least they can do is release a freakin demo! my god japan has had jump festa and whobby, and they get to play demos! why can't we have the same? its not fair! and e for all didn't count. who's going to pay 500 dollars on an airplane ticket to go to another state to play a demo of a game?! i'm starting to think that japan hates us. but thats just my opinion. man i'm so steamed!!!!!!!!!!

**** staight!thats the LEAST we deserve!even if it's just the demo you gave at E for all,I just want a taste of brawl whaaa!

I highly doubt that. Nintendo had PLENTY of time to advertise to their heart's content. Look at Halo 3. They started advertising and slapping Master Chief on everything they could about a month before launch. If Microsoft can do that with their biggest title, Nintendo can sure as hell do the same. They've got money to spare, seeing as how they're pretty much swimming in it now...

yea,start selling brawl toys at BK or MC Donalds lol,lol but seriouslly I think this last month they are gonna polish the game up,and they're probably filming the commercial's as we speak,and why does everyone over look the fact that they said due to not full completion of the game they gotta put some stuff,in hopefull some wanted character*coughnessbetterbeincough*

 

[PokemonLegacy]

from a source i cant reveal...the reason brawl was delayed

simply put, Nintendo of America made this decision, not Sakurai. brawls pre-order numbers weren't looking good, and Nintendo of America (NOA) wanted more time to get together the advertisements, commercials, magazine ads, and promotions to drive stronger first week sales. Another factor in the placement of the American delay is to give this part of the year stronger profit. My source had no details on this matter. The Japanese numbers are fine and the week delay is for a shortage of copies made. The game is finished in Japan in in full. NOA is still working on localization and the way brawl communicates with American routers. So in short, we simply will have to wait another extra month for Brawl , unless u want it half English/ half Japanese.

Maybe if were lucky NoA will "Reward us for our patience" with some sort of USA (Maybe Europe too!) exclusive feature. Character, stages, music, whatever!

 

[RedMage8BT]

God.. I just know this is partially Halo 3's fault... Halo 3 is a ****ing overrated piece of trash that deserves to be in the garbage. All the other pieces of trash would consider Halo 3 an outcast, and demand that it be incinerated immediately, but the incinerator refuses to incinerate such a piece of crap. As Halo 3 degrades, it stinks up the trash so much that the other pieces of trash die and rot and stink up the entire world even more than Halo 3 already did. Then everyone dies.

 

[Thi0s]

I think the localization team just procrastinated... Lazy bums

 

[CaptainCC]

Epsilon52, this is more or less what I had surmised. I think, even if you are a fake, which is unlikely, you're probably on the money. Do you know if the Wii shortage is a factor? I know they're strapped for consoles and this game could potentially be a system seller on the level of Halo. Is that influencing the new release date?

 

[SiegK]

You want a commercials? Here.

Super Smash Bros. Brawl Title then date and The signature Wii sign.

Thats it.

 

[tafutureboy]

i need brawl.........i felt like i was going to blow up after i heard about the delay.......i hope localization isnt the reason........theres sooooooooooo many reserves...jeez

 

[Meta_Sonic64]

You want a commercials? Here.

Super Smash Bros. Brawl Title then date and The signature Wii sign.

Thats it.

At the bottom will be Smash Energy Drink

*enter slogan here*
EX. Ready to go out and play?
Too bad, there's another delay!!!
Smash Energy Drink!

 

[Kabyk-Greenmyst]

I can't believe this for a second. It doesn't make sense. Brawl will be the #1 sold Wii game, easily. That's common knowledge, but I guess the higher-ups in NOA are too high-up to be bothered by peasant knowledge.

 

[Goat12000]

Really i have a choice if i did i would take it half and half.
i don't care the only thing i need to understand is the word vs and adventure, i don't mind trying to find the rest of the options in japanese.

 

[Lucas_User]

Poor Sakurai.
But poor us. >___<