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If we can get both Phoenix Wright and Professor Layton in Smash i'd be over the moon! Their pretty much the only two third parties I really want to see in Smash.
Nice! I really do feel like these games make people better a critical thinking, for example when I played it I was in 9th grade and noticed a drastic improvement in my math abilities after playing Curious Village.
I'd rather not stereotype him even further as a fulltime swordfighter, especially knowing the stigma the Smash community has against sword wielding characters...
Great, another anime swordsman /s
Definitely! I don't mind him pulling out a lead pipe for some attacks here and there like Ganondorf does or even Ness and Lucas do with their bat and stick respectively, but it certainly shouldn't be his main meat and potatoes as far as his overall moveset goes. The gentleman has way too many interesting tools and gadgets that it would be a shame to miss out on them.
I really agree with this. A Layton character in Smash has got to capture the essence of the whole series so if you can't see a Layton moveset on someone like Luke, Kat, or even someone like Stachenscarfen or Granny Riddleton for all I care, that moveset is no good for the main man Professor Layton either. The occasional use of a drainpipe or other makeshift sword is totally fine here and there but it absolutely cannot be the crux of his moveset... that'd just be tragic.
I realized too late that I apparently had some leftover reference sample's of Layton's design from Azran Legacy so I might do some changes and try and base his design off that. Let me know if it looks alright so far..
Well that's disheartening. The video is still up, but it doesn't appear to have English subtitles, only Japanese closed caption.
Yeah I was pretty shocked to find out on how criminally overlooked the DS era of gaming was when someone made a chart for every Smash characters debut on every console. Especially for a console that sold so well and brought in many popular games and franchises too.
Yeah, that's the chart I've seen as well. It's kinda crazy how little the DS is focused on when compared to it's precedessor and successor - especially considering that it outperformed both of them sales-wise. Lucario is the only character and Hanenbow, the Living Room, Pictochat 1/2, and the Spirit Train are the only stages explicitly based on DS titles (one could argue that Smashville, WarioWare Inc, and such are also based on DS games, but they're not directly lifted from it). It's certainly not the best argument in favour of Layton in particular, but it certainly doesn't hurt!
I think the living room stage was based off Nintendogs & Cat's. At least if I recall correctly, I think cats can appear too occasionally on that stage but yeah. Even the 3DS version didn't add all that much content for DS era games despite Smash games being known for being a generation behind (Though that may have been due to the 3DS version coming later on within the 3DS's lifespan but still)
I mean yeah, obviously they don't concern themselves about that, nor do I think this would boost Layton's (or any DS era characters) chances for Smash. But still, It's an interesting thing to see.
it is, and bit more handheld representation would be good
Awesome! I wish you lots of fun!
Yeah, not everyone factors in Layton's large casual audience, especially from Europe. His series is really enjoyable to watch and he's pretty grounded in reality with his picks, analyzing their individual chances more than their chances competitively with the limited number of newcomer spots. It can get really difficult to judge that way.
Yeah he mentioned that he used the Rate their Chances thread here on Smashboards as inspiration for his series.
When did that event take place during the ballot period?
The very start of August, so late in the ballot's life. Unless there was an unrealistically massive surge of Layton votes, I don't think it had much impact because they were probably already in the process of choosing the roster if not close to finishing it entirely.
The possible time votes for Layton in August would still be a factor, as finalized decisions took place in December of 2015. This period of time probably gave some boost to Layton, maybe not to a large degree though.
Yeah, it's not impossible. Who knows how many fans of Layton actually saw it that late into the ballot cycle and decided to vote for him, though? In fact, some may have figured he was already coming once Miller posted that.
I asked this question in the discussion thread awhile back but didn't get many responses, but i'm reposting it here since I think it might pertain to Layton's chances in regards to the ballot.
This could actually make a lot of sense. That way, they don't necessarily need a ton of casual voters because they could figure which characters appeal to general demographics even if they may not necessarily recognize who the characters are. Not every casual necessarily cares about who gets added and a young boy could think a giant crocodile with a cape is cool while a teen or adult girl could think a British gentleman with a top hat is charming.I asked this question in the discussion thread awhile back but didn't get many responses, but i'm reposting it here since I think it might pertain to Layton's chances in regards to the ballot.
Since the ballot votes represent only a small fraction of the smash bros player base, I'm wondering if they used the ballot to scout out which characters are popular with certain demographics rather than a pure popularity contest. Through the smash ballot data, the developers would be able to gauge the popularity of a character not only in votes, but in popularity by market location and by gender. The Japanese ballot also included data collection on the age of the voter, but this was left out of the ballots of other regions.
I don't think Nintendo would include the gender requirement without reason, and if Nintendo wants to appeal to as many demographics as possible, Professor Layton would make an excellent choice. Not only is the Layton series popular in North America, Europe, and Japan, and the series has a near even split appeal to both girls and boys.
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In essence, Layton might not win the #1 spot for North America, Europe, or Japan in the ballot, but he might prove to be moderately popular in all regions and from both genders, while other characters' popularity might drop off between region and gender.
