Sneak Frog
Smash Cadet
Does that imply no one else has a DACUS either? I'd find it hard to believe Greninja would be the only one to lose it.
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It definitely has more endlag. It's annoying but it doesn't take too long to get used to. The difference was pretty noticeable for me though.Also, I'm getting conflicting reports regarding whether Water Shuriken has more end lag or not. I need to finish up some homework, so I can't look at it myself at the moment.
Upon playing a few matches, I definitely have to agree. Why the hell did they see it fit to give Greninja this many nerfs compared to other characters...?It definitely has more endlag. It's annoying but it doesn't take too long to get used to. The difference was pretty noticeable for me though.
Yeah. I don't understand why Greninja was hit so hard. I mean, he was good but not the top. :LUpon playing a few matches, I definitely have to agree. Why the hell did they see it fit to give Greninja this many nerfs compared to other characters...?
Unrelated, but that's a nice Naoto profile picture you've got.My general playstyle is more ground based (so I'm mainly affected by the small endlag on USmash, which I've found is minimal) but yeah, I'd say some of these nerfs aren't too bad or they feel like neutral altercations (I think that the changes to Hydro Pump are better because I'm not just sending people into the air instead of hitting them on target). Pretty sure Greninja still has his DACUS.
Overall, we've got some nerfs, but I think there's worse out there. The Moveset Thread will be updated with 1.0.4 updates later this week.
DACUS has been removed for all characters. I mentioned that I could get it consistently in 1/8x using the Training Mode glitch, but I cannot anymore with Greninja. I really personally feel that Greninja got hit the hardest (Usmash end lag, Uair being a pain to get the last hit to connect, and Water Shuriken having slightly more uninterruptible end lag). I can't think of any other character with so many particular nerfs, but I intend to play Greninja no matter how what happens to the amphibian.My general playstyle is more ground based (so I'm mainly affected by the small endlag on USmash, which I've found is minimal) but yeah, I'd say some of these nerfs aren't too bad or they feel like neutral altercations (I think that the changes to Hydro Pump are better because I'm not just sending people into the air instead of hitting them on target). Pretty sure Greninja still has his DACUS.
Overall, we've got some nerfs, but I think there's worse out there. The Moveset Thread will be updated with 1.0.4 updates later this week.
Couldn't agree more. No matter what happens to this darn ninja froggie, I'm stickin by him.but I intend to play Greninja no matter how what happens to the amphibian.
It is.Unrelated, but that's a nice Naoto profile picture you've got.Unless it isn't. Then carry on.
You are right about DACUS. Apologies.DACUS has been removed for all characters. I mentioned that I could get it consistently in 1/8x using the Training Mode glitch, but I cannot anymore with Greninja. I really personally feel that Greninja got hit the hardest (Usmash end lag, Uair being a pain to get the last hit to connect, and Water Shuriken having slightly more uninterruptible end lag). I can't think of any other character with so many particular nerfs
"Balance" patches.I'll adjust no matter what, but this does make me wary of future balance patches...
Yeah. Would've been nice of Substitute got better. :/I wonder if Uair missing the last hit was an oversight that happened while they were tweaking the move. There doesn't seem to be much reason to do that to the move.
Hydro Pump and Up-Smash nerfs are pretty acceptable. I still don't understand why they changed Water Shuriken though.
... And they still didn't do anything about Substitute >_>
It's very colorful, candy to my eyes.Posting here first to rep my new sig.
Yep. The WS lag nerf is actually the most noticeable change for me. It feels awful.But argh. These nerfs have totally jacked up my playstyle. I prefer approaching via peppering with shuriken and this increased ending lag makes that bluh. .-.
Holy **** I forgot how real that thing looked. I need it in my life.
I can't wait.
I think it's been established that Greninja is a Water/Dork type Pokemon.greninja can be cool AND cute. His voice makes him sound like a dork. :3 Greninja's just awesome.
greninja can be cool AND cute. His voice makes him sound like a dork. :3 Greninja's just awesome.
I think it's been established that Greninja is a Water/Dork type Pokemon.
I've been caped by Mario when trying to hydro pump. Now that I think about it, I'm not even sure why I did it in the first place. But yeah, went WAY up and there was the game.https://gfycat.com/GivingFlawedHowlermonkey
This is probably the most hilarious way I've had Hydro Pump backfire so far.
That's happened to me before. Not a good feeling. x_xI've been caped by Mario when trying to hydro pump. Now that I think about it, I'm not even sure why I did it in the first place. But yeah, went WAY up and there was the game.