The Official SBR-B Brawl Tier List v2.0

[Vorguen]

This Tier List is far from accurate from the advancement of the current metagame. Just sit back and wait for the next one, it is coming soon anyway.

 

[Collective of Bears]

People will learn how to control the bananas. Diddy will go up, then down.

Thing is, though, a GOOD Diddy won't let them get around them.

How does everyone feel about R.O.B. come next list? I haven't really heard much about his metagame as of late.

 

[:mad:]

ROB's having it tough, since ZSS now has that infinite. If anyone wanted to beat a good ROB, I can see some people learning it. I see ROB moving down, honestly. But not by much.

 

[.Marik]

This Tier List is far from accurate from the advancement of the current metagame. Just sit back and wait for the next one, it is coming soon anyway.

Quoted for truth.

ROB's having it tough, since ZSS now has that infinite. If anyone wanted to beat a good ROB, I can see some people learning it. I see ROB moving down, honestly. But not by much.

I honestly don't see many solid, good R.O.B. players around in the first place. There are a few, such as Holy and ChiboSempai, who place extremely well all the time. So I don't know if R.O.B. will move down... but I don't think he'll move up. He's the current 9th best, which is pretty decent.

Anyways, since not many people answered me...

Who's better? Link or Samus?

Reasons as to why you selected a certain character would be awesome. I'll add my imput later.

 

[Kinzer]

You wouldn't think it does, but it does. Before you dog me for saying something, go check to see if it's true.

You sure about that?

I can't be 100% right, but even if Bowser's Fair is longer than Marth's, I would think Marth has it easier since he doesn't put his hurtbox forward with him as Bowser would (maybe, at least that's how aerial priority works if I am not mistaken). Add that with his speed and grace and you got a pretty decent aerial game without a projectile.

I don't know if R.O.B. will move down... but I don't think he'll move up. He's the current 9th best, which is pretty decent.

Anyways, since not many people answered me...

Who's better? Link or Samus?

Reasons as to why you selected a certain character would be awesome. I'll add my imput later.

He certainly isn't going up anytime soon.

I would also want to thin that Samus might be better but that might be just because she can recover and more or less has that same brickwall game Link has.

 

[Darknid]

Shame, too, since ROB is a great character.

EDIT: Also, that's a tough one. Both great projectile chars with good combo ability, I'd say Link is better at both, but Samus has a pretty good recovery with several options and is dangerous off of the ledge, I'd say Samus.

 

[:mad:]

I've never really seen a ROB I liked, his play style is just irritating to fight. Most of what I say about him going down is personal bias, I just don't like Robert.

 

[Kinzer]

A great character? I hope you mean one that is semi-tourney viable or some s*** like that, because God knows what Brawl would be without R.O.B. (note/hint, did anybody really want/expect him to be in Brawl?).

 

[Collective of Bears]

A great character? I hope you mean one that is semi-tourney viable or some s*** like that, because God knows what Brawl would be without R.O.B. (note/hint, did anybody really want/expect him to be in Brawl?).

At the start, I did, but I gave up hope after he became an SSE enemy. And then when he got in I was like "OMGWTFBBQ."

 

[TheReflexWonder]

Pokemon Trainer made it to B Tier.

I think ROB's a pretty well-rounded character. Mostly situational aerials hampers him a bit, however.

 

[.Marik]

It's hard to say who is better, Samus or Link...

Samus has a good recovery, but lacks power, and has decent tilts and projectiles. Has a longer Zair, but Samus is very situational and has no priority. There are beast Samus players out there, however.

Link has power, good projectiles, but is slow and has a mediocre recovery, which hampers him a bit. Link has much better priority than Samus, in my opinion. Kills quicker and is stronger than Samus.

I don't know. Maybe someone could help me out here?

 

[noahbaby94]

What do you think of pikachu I see him rising with his new chaingrab.

 

[Kinzer]

Situational aerials Reflex?

I think it's rather his blindspot down below him in the air that gives him a hard time since he can't protect it as quikly as some would want to.

 

[Wizzlecroff]

He has a blindspot behind him too.

 

[Kinzer]

...I ...hate... that... BAIR!

Perhaps Nair too, that shizz is mad annoying.

 

[Darknid]

A great character? I hope you mean one that is semi-tourney viable or some s*** like that, because God knows what Brawl would be without R.O.B. (note/hint, did anybody really want/expect him to be in Brawl?).

Kinzer, you've never failed to convince me that you're a *******.

 

[Kinzer]

^^

Assuming you were serious: Okay.

Assuming you were sarcastic: Okay.

I hate speech tone on the internet.

 

[Darknid]

you'll never know

 

[TheReflexWonder]

Situational aerials Reflex?

F-Air is a good move, but it's just immediately in front of him. N-Air has some startup, so if you just hit him before you see the animation, you'll be okay. U-Air is immediately above him and can leave him open if he misses. D-Air has significant startup and cooldown, and only hits immediately below him.

B-Air is stupid, and if I was a ROB player, that would be half of all my moves. <3

But it doesn't cover everything.

As a result of all that, he's so easy to juggle in the air as long as you avoid the stronger moves and outrange the F-Air.

 

[Red Arremer]

ROB's having it tough, since ZSS now has that infinite. If anyone wanted to beat a good ROB, I can see some people learning it. I see ROB moving down, honestly. But not by much.

Thing is: The matchups ROB:Zamus was already in ROB's disadvantage in the first place. I really doubt that ROB will sink just because one character has an infinite on him. In fact, I doubt you will see that infinite often in tournament play simply for the fact it's hard to pull off against a spammy ROB.

 

[Kinzer]

Oh I see where you're coming from now Reflex.

I guess it's just not being in the immediate vicinity for the attack, you should be fine. It applies a little different for Bair and Dair since they seem to last quite some time (that Burner is nice), and have that nice range, but it's kind of slow and as you side only covers a small area.

That Nair is kind of silly though, nuff said.

 

[kirbywizard]

What is your opinion on olimar, he rose the most amount of spots in the last teir list last time I check. DO you see him rising more is his recovery hampering his strength.

 

[Frown]

Nope. G&W's dsmash destorys him near the edge.

 

[kirbywizard]

Nope. G&W's dsmash destorys him near the edge.

A good edge hog can kill many olimar trying to recover >_>

 

[Red Arremer]

Olimar is a very good contender for Top of High respectively Bottom of Top Tier.

 

[deepseadiva]

I'm still waiting for the Olimar's to find that incredible AT inside those Pikmin.

6 disposable Nana-like partners and they've found NOTHING so far? They'll be doing usmashes from across FD in a year or two, you'll see.

 

[Kinzer]

They don't need to find ATs, he's already a pain in the a** to fight.

Edit: Oh GD it you play Peach.

 

[deepseadiva]

"Oh no... Olimar..." *giggle giggle*

Of course he doesn't need them, but if there's any character simply waiting around to be unlocked, it's Olimar. In terms of advanced potential, Olimar is a trench and we're swimming in the kiddie pool.

 

[Cheepshot]

http://infamus-one.mybrute.com face me if you dare!!!

 

[phi1ny3]

It's pretty sad that lucario could be going down by like one, but people are learning to be much better at not getting gimped as him, plus if Zamus and Diddy are going up, I hope that he will kind of follow.
I see Olimar having some nice potential, although I don't like the idea of a meh recovery that relies on batting away the hogger before you grab, especially with not so great aerials (considering that most higher characters have amazing edgeguarding aerials).

 

[Darknid]

We all know Oli's weaknesses, but he can avoid them as best he can and he's a beast in every other aspect.

As for 3rd/4th place, I still believe that Wario and Diddy could rise that high

 

[phi1ny3]

Wario is beastly.

 

[Collective of Bears]

Wario is beastly.

This man speaks truth.

 

[:mad:]

This man speaks truth.

This man speaks the truth about the truth.

 

[Kinzer]

C-C-C-C-Como Breaker!!!!

Let's talk Ice Climbers please.

They're kind of low as of now IMO, does anybody have any reason they might rise/drop/stay in the same place?

I would think that they're in a place where they have untapped potential and nobody has still fully mastered them (or have they?). With desyncs, Blizzard for offense and defense, chaingrabs (of course), and just a fortress from what I can see, they can be a very worthy adversary.

 

[Xebenkeck]

Yes they can be, THEY being the key word, once the ***** dies popo is a low-mid tier character by himself. The IC rely heavily on there CG's. When they are together, they are IMO the 3rd best in the game, but when they are seperated Popo becomes like i said a low tier character. There main problem is that every character has a least one move that can seperate them, so they must be careful. As of now i think they are way to low, i would say they belong above Lucario, but still below ROB.(on the current tier list.)

 

[:mad:]

Kinzer... how dare you.
I don't really have much of an opinion on Ice Climbers. Haven't seen much of them around here, and I haven't found a completely amazing IC offline.

 

[Tamoo]

What are people's opinion on luigi?
I personally feel that he has great potential to move up at least 3 spaces in the future at least, and Ankoku's thread supports this, with some very good placings recently,
Also has actual combo ability and has the ultimate combo breaking nair, plus can kill vertically very quickly with the majority of his moves, most notably shoyruken and tilted fsmash.
Has relatively good recovery options, if slightly predictable

 

[woody72691]

can we talk about pit?? come on i've seen too many ice climber theorys to fill a 17 gallon water tank

 

[Collective of Bears]

What are people's opinion on luigi?
I personally feel that he has great potential to move up at least 3 spaces in the future at least, and Ankoku's thread supports this, with some very good placings recently,
Also has actual combo ability and has the ultimate combo breaking nair, plus can kill vertically very quickly with the majority of his moves, most notably shoyruken and tilted fsmash.
Has relatively good recovery options, if slightly predictable

I see Weegee rising through the ranks a bit, maybe 2 places. I've been seeing more and more of him in tournies lately, and they don't dissapoint.