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The Official "Megaman in SSBB" Topic!

Pluvius

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there is NO END to the classic mega man series yet, Inafune said that himself. That game on the wonderswan doesnt end it
A good bet as to what is or isn't Canon would be anything directly made by Capcom is canon, whereas things licensed are not. But does Quint dying in R&F2 prove anything? Rockman follows the DBZ style of time travel, that is, that changes to time cause alternate timelines. In Quint's timeline Rockman had settled down & was then kidnapped, & in Rockman's timeline he was battling Wily. Capcom has never said what happens after that for Rockman, as their style is to usually leave things hanging. The only Rockman series that ever ended was Zero, with every major character dying. Phantom died in Zero 1, Copy X, Harpuia, Fafnir, & Leviathan died in Zero 3, & Zero, Craft, & Dr. Weil died in Zero 4.

The Zero series' finite ending was actually quite the shocker for Capcom's treatment of Rockman games.

Wait, so let me get this straight, not only is Legends in limbo, but the series that "directly leads into Legends" is in limbo too?
http://rockmansynergy.com/commons/index.php?blog=2&p=362&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1#more362 also.

My preferred Rockman for Brawl list is such, in descending order:
1) Rockman
2) Rockman Trigger
3) Rockman.EXE
4) Zero series Zero
5) Subaru as Rockman
6) Rockman X
7) I guess Aile.
 

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A good bet as to what is or isn't Canon would be anything directly made by Capcom is canon, whereas things licensed are not. But does Quint dying in R&F2 prove anything? Rockman follows the DBZ style of time travel, that is, that changes to time cause alternate timelines. In Quint's timeline Rockman had settled down & was then kidnapped, & in Rockman's timeline he was battling Wily. Capcom has never said what happens after that for Rockman, as their style is to usually leave things hanging. The only Rockman series that ever ended was Zero, with every major character dying. Phantom died in Zero 1, Copy X, Harpuia, Fafnir, & Leviathan died in Zero 3, & Zero, Craft, & Dr. Weil died in Zero 4.

The Zero series' finite ending was actually quite the shocker for Capcom's treatment of Rockman games.

http://rockmansynergy.com/commons/index.php?blog=2&p=362&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1#more362 also.

My preferred Rockman for Brawl list is such, in descending order:
1) Rockman
2) Rockman Trigger
3) Rockman.EXE
4) Zero series Zero
5) Subaru as Rockman
6) Rockman X
7) I guess Aile.
why do you dislike X so much?
 

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A good bet as to what is or isn't Canon would be anything directly made by Capcom is canon, whereas things licensed are not. But does Quint dying in R&F2 prove anything? Rockman follows the DBZ style of time travel, that is, that changes to time cause alternate timelines. In Quint's timeline Rockman had settled down & was then kidnapped, & in Rockman's timeline he was battling Wily. Capcom has never said what happens after that for Rockman, as their style is to usually leave things hanging. The only Rockman series that ever ended was Zero, with every major character dying. Phantom died in Zero 1, Copy X, Harpuia, Fafnir, & Leviathan died in Zero 3, & Zero, Craft, & Dr. Weil died in Zero 4.

The Zero series' finite ending was actually quite the shocker for Capcom's treatment of Rockman games.

http://rockmansynergy.com/commons/index.php?blog=2&p=362&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1#more362 also.

My preferred Rockman for Brawl list is such, in descending order:
1) Rockman
2) Rockman Trigger
3) Rockman.EXE
4) Zero series Zero
5) Subaru as Rockman
6) Rockman X
7) I guess Aile.
Dear God, why must the good die young?!?
ZX was just getting interesting...
They were abouf two steps away from making a Blues and Forte Live Metal...
I could feel it...
-sob-
First Legends...Then Zero...Now ZX...Megaman's main series is dying...
 

Pluvius

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why do you dislike X so much?
I dunno. It's not that I dislike him. Remember, I'm not ridiculous like you guys. I don't need to hate parts of my favorite series. I like them all.

Well, X & his "cool" "new" "badass" theme were what stopped the Classic series. I hold his revival in X5 to be what distracted Capcom from DASH, too. The desire of people to want to play as X is to me what caused Zero to end, & Ryuusei has from the beginning been dubbed "EXE X".

At the end of every great Rockman series, X rears his ugly head. I used to love him, but I just don't anymore.

X caused sliding to be left in the annals of time. X caused the quintessence of dashing gameplay, the Zero series, to be abandoned for easy **** like ZX. "EXE X", while a slightly entertaining distraction, ruined the beauty of the grid based combat of the EXE series & the strategy that went with it.

X, ZX, & Ryuusei games are alright, but they don't at all compare to Classic, Zero, DASH, & EXE.
 

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A good bet as to what is or isn't Canon would be anything directly made by Capcom is canon, whereas things licensed are not. But does Quint dying in R&F2 prove anything? Rockman follows the DBZ style of time travel, that is, that changes to time cause alternate timelines. In Quint's timeline Rockman had settled down & was then kidnapped, & in Rockman's timeline he was battling Wily. Capcom has never said what happens after that for Rockman, as their style is to usually leave things hanging. The only Rockman series that ever ended was Zero, with every major character dying. Phantom died in Zero 1, Copy X, Harpuia, Fafnir, & Leviathan died in Zero 3, & Zero, Craft, & Dr. Weil died in Zero 4.

The Zero series' finite ending was actually quite the shocker for Capcom's treatment of Rockman games.

http://rockmansynergy.com/commons/index.php?blog=2&p=362&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1#more362 also.

My preferred Rockman for Brawl list is such, in descending order:
1) Rockman
2) Rockman Trigger
3) Rockman.EXE
4) Zero series Zero
5) Subaru as Rockman
6) Rockman X
7) I guess Aile.
I. Hate. Japan.

No this can't be happening, there must be a misunderstanding. Why are they doing this --- wha, i can't understand

What....

WHAT AM I PLAYING FOOOOOORRRRRRR!!!! *shot*:laugh:
 

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I. Hate. Japan.

No this can't be happening, there must be a misunderstanding. Why are they doing this --- wha, i can't understand

What....

WHAT AM I PLAYING FOOOOOORRRRRRR!!!! *shot*:laugh:
I agree...
Those dumb f***s dont know a good thing when they see it...
Because the name didnt have a number...
How ******** can you be?!?
Not sure if its a sequel???
USE THE INTERNET!!!
Axel killed the X games (which is wrong)...Model A is in the game...so we hate the game...
WHY MUST THE GOOD DIE YOUNG DUE TO INCOMPETENCE!!!
 

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I dunno. It's not that I dislike him. Remember, I'm not ridiculous like you guys. I don't need to hate parts of my favorite series. I like them all.

Well, X & his "cool" "new" "badass" theme were what stopped the Classic series. I hold his revival in X5 to be what distracted Capcom from DASH, too. The desire of people to want to play as X is to me what caused Zero to end, & Ryuusei has from the beginning been dubbed "EXE X".

At the end of every great Rockman series, X rears his ugly head. I used to love him, but I just don't anymore.

X caused sliding to be left in the annals of time. X caused the quintessence of dashing gameplay, the Zero series, to be abandoned for easy **** like ZX. "EXE X", while a slightly entertaining distraction, ruined the beauty of the grid based combat of the EXE series & the strategy that went with it.

X, ZX, & Ryuusei games are alright, but they don't at all compare to Classic, Zero, DASH, & EXE.
Stop before we call Maverick Hunters on you. :chuckle:

Megaman X started a downward spiral? I can't even see how that would work, even after your explanation. X was the foundation for Zero series (i agree that zero series was cut short too), but him as a character didn't cause ZX. (Honestly I don't know what gave birth to ZX except maybe playable guardians) Classic is on pause because Keiji said himself he doesn't want to put a definite end to the series (i'd refrence, but i forgot where it was said) and Capcom saw DASH as fail because it didn't sell whopping amounts right away, in other words, it was a sleeper that Capcom didn't want to wait on.

One last note

EXE =/= Classic
StarFail=/= X

I knew what you meant, but that comparison was screaming profane things at me
 

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I agree...
Those dumb f***s dont know a good thing when they see it...
Because the name didnt have a number...
How ******** can you be?!?
Not sure if its a sequel???
USE THE INTERNET!!!
Axel killed the X games (which is wrong)...Model A is in the game...so we hate the game...
WHY MUST THE GOOD DIE YOUNG DUE TO INCOMPETENCE!!!
^^^And Pokemon like marketing, and RPGs (points at both EXE/StarFail - i just love my new name for the series, and Dragon Quest Swords, **** you and Square-Enix, lol)
 

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^^^And Pokemon like marketing, and RPGs (points at both EXE/StarFail - i just love my new name for the series, and Dragon Quest Swords, **** you and Square-Enix, lol)
All right now...
Dont TOUCH THE SQUARE!!!
Where will I get my Final Fantasy and my Kingdom Hearts???
Dragon Quest can go to the 9th ring of Hell and freeze for all eternity for all I care...
Stupid Japanese people...
We didnt advertise the game...but we expect it to be an instant hit...
RAAAAHHHH...
The Japsnese are killing Mega Man...
 

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Dear God, why must the good die young?!?
ZX was just getting interesting...
They were abouf two steps away from making a Blues and Forte Live Metal...
I could feel it...
-sob-
First Legends...Then Zero...Now ZX...Megaman's main series is dying...
This makes me really sad... Between Megaman, Sonic, Legend Of Zelda, Mario, Metroid & Final Fantasy there are so many childhood memories... For them to take it and do this is an injustice. I almost wish if the data versions never existed (and to an extent ZX).. it really should have been

Classic - X/Zero/ZX (as supplimentary series) - Legends - Future

EDIT
Off-Topic: For anyone that's interested, im currently doing a fanfiction which'll bridge the Zero series into a altered version of Zx and hopefully legends.. i got the inspiration from the idea that the main megaman series hasn't had a really good single anime/manga yet.

Back on track: I say as the American consumer, we should have as much say in terms of Megaman as Japan since we are the main secondary audience.

All right now...
Dont TOUCH THE SQUARE!!!
Where will I get my Final Fantasy and my Kingdom Hearts???
Dragon Quest can go to the 9th ring of Hell and freeze for all eternity for all I care...
Stupid Japanese people...
We didnt advertise the game...but we expect it to be an instant hit...
RAAAAHHHH...
The Japsnese are killing Mega Man...
Sorry bout that, i love square, but that timing was too coincidental.
 

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Eh... I'm all for a megaman character in Brawl... but some of you are a wee bit harsh on some of the spin-off series, remember this is capcom we're talking about, the makers of the Street Fighter Series that is more notorious for repeat and spin-offs then any company I've ever seen.

Classical Megaman seems like a fairly decent considering his history and probably goes without saying. I would love to see him in Brawl.

X comes off as iffy to me. THe main reason is that the majority of his series took place on Sony's consoles, though this doesn't elimate his chance it could play a role, the last X game on a nintendo system was X3 if I recall right.

Legends is one I know very little about, it ended rather suddenly so I don't know if they would bother reviving that one

EXE is one that I would merely like to take a moment to note, that the EXE franchises didn't do the best here in the US, in Japan, it became a fairly solid franchise in the Megaman universe. Even as much as produced a rather lengthy anime series that spanned I believe across 4 some series. And really they made six games. I don't honsety see how you can consider a series of six games a major 'failure'. I enjoyed the series for what it is as much as I enjoyed both the original and X. The next series that was related to this I am not a fan of, the Star Force series just seems to be even more friendshippy happy then the last few games of EXE were, they took what began to weaken EXE and made it worse XD

As far as him being in Brawl, there is always that possibility, the EXE verison does posses a different moveset compared to the other verison of him. And considering I believe he only had one game not on a nintendo system makes him as likely as the original or X.

Zero and the XZ series: I'm going to be plainly honset, I don't like this series, and I don't really think Zero should have a place in brawl if one of the megaman's really doesn't have place either. I don't directly know Zero series' storyline clearly enough to make a guess at his real chances. But being his games have I believe all be on nintend I suppose he has as good of a chance as EXE or the original.
 

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This makes me really sad... Between Megaman, Sonic, Legend Of Zelda, Mario, Metroid & Final Fantasy there are so many childhood memories... For them to take it and do this is an injustice. I almost wish if the data versions never existed (and to an extent ZX).. it really should have been

Classic - X/Zero (as supplimentary series) - Legends - Future

Back on track, I say as the American consumer, we should have as much say in terms of Megaman as Japan since we are the main secondary audience.



Sorry bout that, i love square, but that timing was too coincidental.
They shouldnt judge everything based on -points- over there...
They should consider -stomps- over here too...
Y'know...
Where half their general audience (and profit) lies...
RAAAAGGHHH!!!
BTW: Whats so bad sbout ZX??? I understand exe, but ZX???
 

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Stop before we call Maverick Hunters on you. :chuckle:

Megaman X started a downward spiral? I can't even see how that would work, even after your explanation. X was the foundation for Zero series (i agree that zero series was cut short too), but him as a character didn't cause ZX. (Honestly I don't know what gave birth to ZX except maybe playable guardians) Classic is on pause because Keiji said himself he doesn't want to put a definite end to the series (i'd refrence, but i forgot where it was said) and Capcom saw DASH as fail because it didn't sell whopping amounts right away, in other words, it was a sleeper that Capcom didn't want to wait on.

One last note

EXE =/= Classic
StarFail=/= X

I knew what you meant, but that comparison was screaming profane things at me
you took the words right out of my mouth.I dont think X was what started the downward spiral, I think it was just capcom trying to milk the series's in general too hard. if they worked harder on making the games good(or at least tried to stick to one game harder) they would have done much better.
^^^And Pokemon like marketing, and RPGs (points at both EXE/StarFail - i just love my new name for the series, and Dragon Quest Swords, **** you and Square-Enix, lol)
dragon monster quest(the first one) was actualy a good gameboy color title(I think it was what started the series) it was my favorite since it had the whole controling monsters thing, befriending them, the well thought out battle system, and dont forget the breeding!
 

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They shouldnt judge everything based on -points- over there...
They should consider -stomps- over here too...
Y'know...
Where half their general audience (and profit) lies...
RAAAAGGHHH!!!
BTW: Whats so bad sbout ZX??? I understand exe, but ZX???
Honestly, the only qualm i have about the ZX series is how much retcon it made Capcom/Inti do in regards to the Zero series.

*im gonna get real technical and spoilerific so fans get ready*
The Guardains dying in Z3 is the best example. When Z4 came out, everyone at Inti stated that the wanted to focus on Zero, but would get back to the guardians eventually. There was even a piece of art depicting them in Neo Arcadia during Ragnarok's descent supposedly evacuating the place. When Inti was then asked about plans for Zero 5, they stated the series was on hiatus while they brainstormed a newer idea for the Nintendo DS since at that point GBA was dying or on the way to dying. Afterwards, it would be revealed via sourcebook that the guardians died in Omega's explosion and Zero died presumably in re-entry. This was all done so that Capcom could pave the way to ZX and more specifically, livemetals.

wow, that took me so long to write.
 

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If ZX dies, well that's no skin off my bones, it just means our odds of getting a classic/X/Legends game increase. See, with ZX in the picture we have a 3/5 or 60% chance of getting one of those 3. However, with ZX out of the picture we have a 3/4 or 75% chance of getting a Classic/X/Legends game.

See...the failure ZX is a GOOD thing. No need to weep over ZX's potential death, it's merely sacrificing itself for the greater good. Now with Zero and .EXE gone as well, whenever Capcom spins the wheel of Megaman games, as long as the dial doesn't end up on Star Force we're good to go! :grin:
 

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If ZX dies, well that's no skin off my bones, it just means our odds of getting a classic/X/Legends game increase. See, with ZX in the picture we have a 3/5 or 60% chance of getting one of those 3. However, with ZX out of the picture we have a 3/4 or 75% chance of getting a Classic/X/Legends game.

See...the failure ZX is a GOOD thing. No need to weep over ZX's potential death, it's merely sacrificing itself for the greater good. Now with Zero and .EXE gone as well, whenever Capcom spins the wheel of Megaman games, as long as the dial doesn't end up on Star Force we're good to go! :grin:
i would like to believe this as truth, but think about it

-in Japan, gamers are starting to dislike the X series (who knows why)
-the Zx series leads to Legends and as such a Legends sequel would only lead to plot convolution if cappy decided "it's retconnin' time!!" (unless they make it epic and we get *gasp* the reunion of old heroes vs. elder system)

if anything, keeping the zx series alive is the last hope we have for megaman robots over megaman data... *shudders*
 

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If ZX dies, well that's no skin off my bones, it just means our odds of getting a classic/X/Legends game increase. See, with ZX in the picture we have a 3/5 or 60% chance of getting one of those 3. However, with ZX out of the picture we have a 3/4 or 75% chance of getting a Classic/X/Legends game.

See...the failure ZX is a GOOD thing. No need to weep over ZX's potential death, it's merely sacrificing itself for the greater good. Now with Zero and .EXE gone as well, whenever Capcom spins the wheel of Megaman games, as long as the dial doesn't end up on Star Force we're good to go! :grin:
Aqua Rock, you just never disappoint me! :)
 

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See...the failure ZX is a GOOD thing. No need to weep over ZX's potential death, it's merely sacrificing itself for the greater good. Now with Zero and .EXE gone as well, whenever Capcom spins the wheel of Megaman games, as long as the dial doesn't end up on Star Force we're good to go!
Quoted for great justice.

Aqua Rock, you just earned popularity points.
 

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Classic is on pause because Keiji said himself he doesn't want to put a definite end to the series
That's true, but that's not why it's in hiatus. Capcom simply won't let him make more of them.

One last note

EXE =/= Classic
StarFail=/= X

I knew what you meant, but that comparison was screaming profane things at me
EXE references classic like Ryuusei references X. A lot of great classic characters who had not seen the light of day in years got some cool redesigns for the EXE series. AirMan.EXE, QuickMan.EXE, Roll.EXE, & StarMan.EXE are some of my favorites. So far Ryuusei has been completely original, but if they run out of constellations they're bound to reference old X characters. Who didn't find Ice Pegasus reminiscent of The Skiver from X5? Green Dragon was like Depth Dragoon, & Fire Leo was like Slash Beast somewhat. The animal theme is present in Ryuusei just like it was in X.
 

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Heads up though...

Tomorrow is Myiomoto's Birthday, so there is a possibility that there could be a new character on Friday which I hope not.
 

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the re-release of metaknight's move set!??!!?
obviously nintendo is purposefully giving us crappy updates.
(the music was kinda cool but still)
the only plausible reason I can think of for why they re-released his moveset, is so they can put it in his character section.
nintendo is getting my hopes up for mega monday!
 

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If he was revealed I would... Release the first issue of RMB comics (Which I have finished By The WaY).
 

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Thanks guys. I may sound a bit cruel to ZX but c'mon, is it that hard for Capcom to make a Classic Series game?

As far as what would I do if Megaman's confirmed? I thought I'd give some sort of speech. You know stuff like "Well Mega fans, we've come a long way" and "I remember back when Mega was first suggested" blah blah you know the sort. But not before jumping out of my seat and screaming "HE MADE IT!!! HE ACTUALLY MADE IT!!!".
 

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If he was revealed I would... Release the first issue of RMB comics (Which I have finished By The WaY).
And the first chapter of my crossover Megaman Universe would be underway - the first episode would be a celebration party gone wild, lmao:chuckle:

Also is it just me, or is metaknight being serioiusly hyped up?
 

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And the first chapter of my crossover Megaman Universe would be underway - the first episode would be a celebration party gone wild, lmao:chuckle:

Also is it just me, or is metaknight being serioiusly hyped up?
well he had a technical double update, but it realy was just one. I would say he isnt, he was the talk of the town at one point, but died out fast.
if megaman got in, he would be seriously hyped up from his announcement of him being in all by itself!
 

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More people need to realize that Rockman.EXE/MegaMan.EXE would be a good addition to Brawl. Too many people freak out because those games had a unique & interesting gameplay style that was different from the formula used for the majority of the rest of the series.

Rockman.EXE really would be good for Brawl, & he has had more appearances on Nintendo systems than any other Rockman except the original.
I thought the unique playing stlye was bad until I played it. Now it's lie my favorite version, still you can't get rid of the classics in this case.
 
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