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The Next Smash Brothers?

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127crazie

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What are your thoughts on a possible continuation to the Smash Bros. Series? If it continues, what would the new game be like and what would its name be?

I know that Brawl has just come out and there are still years to go with it and many things to be discovered, but I'm just wondering.
 

Blade Knight

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Indeed, and I agree with Samurai Panda on SMYN they should just re-realse Brawl with like 5 new characters, 7 or so stages, and a few new trophies, items and AT's.
 

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they should have every Melee stage and every Smash 64 stage

they should bring back Roy and Mewtwo

they should have Megaman, Vectorman, Tiny Kong, Krystal, and Black Shadow

They should try really hard to get Banjo Kazooie, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, and Rayman

get rid of tripping

make the pace of the game a little bit faster
 

Negi-Kun

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More technicality please! I loved how Melee was a very fast and ... broken? I can't think of a good word lol. But yeah, Brawl is a lot of fun but Melee was tight. And no, I'm not talking about Melee vs Brawl. I hate those threads! :(
 

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Like Samuelson said, they should bring back ALL stages from melee and 64. Although this time they shouldn't add anything to any of the old stages. (coughPokemonStadiumcough)

They should have lots of backgrounds and pieces for stage builder. Some way to make a sidescrolling stage. 'Special' stage builder pieces like the flying boat from Rainbow Cruise. Lower the ceiling on the custom stages.

Add Krystal, Ridley, Black Shadow/Samurai Goroh, Mewtow, Roy, Hector, and Slippey.

Make bosses playable. (How many people have wanted to play as Master Hand?)

GET RID OF TRIPPING.
 

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OMG, why don't moderators close things faster? What are they DOING??

Surely they can't have lives outside the internet.
 

Linkguy

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No tripping. More competitive. Better stage builder. Banjo Kazooie and Isaac from Golden Sun will be characters.

I'd buy that.
 

Blade Knight

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I say To make it more competative it needs MORE tripping like every time you turn around you trip SUPER triping AND YOU TAKE DAMAGE FROM TRIPPING!
 

doctortommy

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Not to be pessimistic, but there will never be another smash brothers. The developers said so.
 

Ikepwnsyou

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i like brawl the way it is! but they could get rid of tripping, and add about 8 new characters, such as : sothe, some golden sun characters, or mabye some more characters like olimar! I would also ask that they make ikes attack lag at LEAST 0.1 second less! :psycho:
 

hectichobo

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Name: SUPER SMASH BROS. CLASH!

Stuff to put in.
1. No "Alike Characters"
2. Bring back everyone they can and make their move-sets unique.
3. Better less choppy Online Play.
4. More Unlockable Stuff
5. Starting with less then half the roster.
6. More Possibilities for stage builder. Suck As Scrolling Stages.
7. Adventure Mode: TSA2
8. Rankings
9. Bring back about 5 brawl levels. 5 Melee Levels (that weren't in brawl) and 5 64 levels.
10. Characters that have at least some meaning to them *cough*takeout rob*cough*
11. A well thought about stage selection and character roster.
12. A Longer Story Mode
13. Give Gannon a sword
14. Find a new way to get trophies with you coins.... such as different games like in sonic adventure where you went to the casino and there were multiple games to get you rings.
15. A new item to collect that isn't trophies or stickers but still keep those.
16. Instead of "alike characters" make them costumes....
17. Give Metroid and F-Zero at least one more rep.... they've been alone since a n64 smash...
18. A Real Classic mode where they like..... pixalate everyone and they stages
19. Don't make Ness's taunt sound like hes saying "I'm Gay" after you do it a few times
20. I don't know if this a big deal to anyone else... but they need to give you an actual score in your fights.... i hate not having those awesome bonuses to look at...
22. Race to the Finish and board the platform need to be back.

Stuff that can be taken out:
1. Training Mode. Reason: You can train on a brawl by yourself. Just put (not moving) or something under the level so u can train... Call it level 0.
2. Master Pieces. Reason: There's no point in playing a game for 20 Seconds - 5 Minutes. It really isn't enough time to figure out where the game characters came from. And it's not like anyone in the world hasn't played a Classic Mario Game.
3. The Big List Of Nintendo Games. Reason: I can look at that and more on Wikipedia.
4. All the Godly Items. Reason: They can make you use your head at least a little bit instead of grabbing a golden hammer and flying around bashing faces in.
5. Levels that are only slightly different from another level. Reason: You can play the level thats slightly different from it
6. Alike Characters. Reason: Same as the above but with characters.
7. Tripping. Reason: It's too random and can sometimes cost you the whole match.





Not to be pessimistic, but there will never be another smash brothers. The developers said so.
They also said they wouldn't be making another game after Melee. But I'm pretty sure they did.


Thats about all I got.... Peace \\//
 

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This thread is gonna get locked.
LOL

I hope that they actually make an effort this time to make it competitive :ohwell:
No, they make the effort to make it less competitive as possible. They didn't take WD out by accident. The competitive community is the smaller market, and the big market are the noobs who have lives and don't study the game and just play for fun. To sell more for the bigger market, you take the competitive out. But this moves on to who will make the next game.

Not to be pessimistic, but there will never be another smash brothers. The developers said so.
You can't say that, you have no proof, where's the quote. They mean they won't make the game. The developers might not make the next game, and that's why there will always be another team of developers ready, and they will be the ones who make it. Smash is a extremely successful and selling series. Sakurai's team have been on it for 3 games, so what if they don't make it. There probably will be another, but in a very long time. The lead developer might be the kind who likes money and make it uncompetitive, or he might be the one who will make us happy and put techs back in the game. But there probably will be another game, by different developers, but just we will have to wait very long.
 

doctortommy

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LOL



No, they make the effort to make it less competitive as possible. They didn't take WD out by accident. The competitive community is the smaller market, and the big market are the noobs who have lives and don't study the game and just play for fun. To sell more for the bigger market, you take the competitive out. But this moves on to who will make the next game.



You can't say that, you have no proof, where's the quote. They mean they won't make the game. The developers might not make the next game, and that's why there will always be another team of developers ready, and they will be the ones who make it. Smash is a extremely successful and selling series. Sakurai's team have been on it for 3 games, so what if they don't make it. There probably will be another, but in a very long time. The lead developer might be the kind who likes money and make it uncompetitive, or he might be the one who will make us happy and put techs back in the game. But there probably will be another game, by different developers, but just we will have to wait very long.
I know for a fact sakurai isn't making any more. We were lucky to get brawl. I would pull up an interview i read when brawl was first announced, but I don't feel like it, and would not be worth the trouble.

IF we ever get another, it will be from a completely new team. Sakurai said he wants to work on new projects and games.

Who cares anyways, brawl is the shiz. We don't need smash 4
 

metalmonstar

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I have been thinking about this for a while now. The first thing to do is get Sakurai off of the Smash Bros projects. You need to get someone in who can think of the competitive scene and the casual scene. Someone who is creative and will make an epic game. Someone who will keep to their word.

The most obvious fixes are no more clones. That means a lot of work is going to be needed for Fox, Falco, and Wolf. I don't even know why Gannon is a clone. I am not sure how to fix the space animals but I have some ideas for Gannondorf.

Usmash - Captain Falcons Usmash but more powerful like it was in melee.
Dair - The stomp should stay with Gannon

b- His dark energy orbs from Ocarania of Time. The more you charge it the more that shoot out.
down b - Silver spears fall from above Gannon and land next to him on either side. Somewhat like DK's down B.
side b- He thrust across the stage with his sword out. Like Ike's except, he doesn't have to charge it and he doesn't swing the sword he just runs into his foe.

Uair - He thrust his sword into the air
fair - He swings his sword in front of him. The middle spikes
bair - Like Captain Falcon's bair except add a sword to it.

Dsmash - Gannon slams his sword into the ground causing a small shockwave on both sides of him. Like Charizards D-smash
Fsmash - Could be another sword smash or just a really strong punch

So that is one Clone out of the way.

Story mode: One of the main issues with Story mode was that it was pretty repetitive. You have a wide list of game characters many of which came from side scrollers. Utilize their different level style then just walk around fight enemies reach the end. Through in some jumping, platforming, puzzles, speed runs. I bet you could even get away with some Strategy Role playing levels.

I came up with an idea for a story. It starts out with your villains getting trounced by their respective arch rival and turned into a trophy. Eggman and Master hand round up the villains and create a little alliance between them all. Eggman has hatched a plan that require collecting energy sources in order to power his new secret weapon that will allow the villains to rule their respective worlds. The robot also has the ability to utilize moves from other fighters. So as a side mission the villains are to collect the DNA of all the heroes. In the end the crystal shards, chaos emeralds, powerstars, and triforce of power are rounded up. The robot, I figure would look something like Emerl but maybe a bit more generic, thus gains this immense power and the ability to fight like anyone of the playable characters. Gannondorf and Bowser transfrom into Gannon and Giga bowser. The heroes defeat them. Followed by a fight with Master hand who has used the energy source to summon crazy hand to help him. The robot eventually goes crazy during eggman's repairs after its initial defeat. Everyone has to team up to stop it. The final bout would pay some fan servie to the Mario and Sonic fans as the two would have to team up and go into supercharged forms to fight the robot.

Basically the story mode whould be more varied and have more boss fights.

Classic mode, touch the platfrom and race to the finish would return. All star would once again end with fighting forty Mr. Game and Watch. You would fight the fighting team before facing off with Masterhand again. Score will once again be brought back.

Training mode will now give you more options. You can set the computer to do specific action such as specific attacks. This way you can test thoroughly individual moves and tactics.

I was thinking that Smash balls would be turned into specials. You would build up your special meter based on rewards for certain actions. Teching the ground, wall teching, meteor cancelling, power sheilding, spot dodging an attack. Maybe makes this feature able to be turned off. I think it would add a different dimension to the game. You could no longer spam because your opponent could build up their special. You would have to play a more cautious and less noobish game.

As far as the physics go, I would like to have the game in between Melee and Brawl. Faster than brawl but not as fast as Melee. Not as floaty as brawl either.

Random tripping would be taken out but forcing your opponent to trip by using something like your down tilts will stay in and so will footstool jumps.

I figure the game will be called Super Smash brothers Royale.
 

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I actually wondered if they could release an expansion for Brawl through the Wiiware, but thats doubtful. Honestly my real prediction is that they will re release Brawl with like 8 new characters and maybe a couple stages, items, and trophies(would be worth it to get a better stage buildier and some NOT SUCK online play) in a year or so, like many fighting games do. That would make sense in terms of lining there wallets and it would explain why they chose to leave out certain characters that people thought were for sure gonna be in the game.
 

shatoga

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they should have every Melee stage and every Smash 64 stage

they should bring back Roy and Mewtwo

they should have Megaman, Vectorman, Tiny Kong, Krystal, and Black Shadow

They should try really hard to get Banjo Kazooie, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, and Rayman

get rid of tripping

make the pace of the game a little bit faster
I was expecting megaman in brawl.I was kinda let down by that =(. If there is SSB4 there MUST be Megaman.
 

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ya they should make the stage builder better

Most important though: Make Online Play Good

I hope they have updates for this game where you can download new characters and new stages, even new items, they should have more pokemon (i miss onyx and beedrill)
 

TheMoonman

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While they said they wouldn't be making any more Smash games, there really is no reason for them not to. Smash is a money maker, just like Pokemon. I don't care if the team at HAL doesn't make it, just gimme my Smash and I'll be fine.

But I do agree with the "Expansion Pack" idea thing, that has like 7 new characters, 10 new stages, or a couple new items or something like that. Though, if it was like that, I'd suggest for it to be like an add-on to Brawl, as in, you get the expansion CD, download its contents to the Wii, and then it loads up the update whenever you play Brawl. If the Wii can do that, that is...
 

doctortommy

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In regards to Sora's future projects, Sakurai says he "hope to be able to work on games of different genres, whether that is to meet our client's needs or to match current gaming trends. I hope that Sora will not just be identified by a single genre like action games. Maybe through some luck, we may work on RPGs, or maybe it could be a fitness game like Wii Fit. I don't want to be particular on what genre to work on, and just hope to create games that are naturally fun and enjoyable."

http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3167109

theres more but i dont feel like googling any more. You get my point

[edit] I would like another smash as much as any of you. I just don't think anyone should get excited over the next game.
 

Yukiwarashi

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Here's something I don't get. The next Smash will be released years from now, maybe even 7 like Melee.

So why are people still thinking Mewtwo and Roy should come back? Why not gun for Dr. Mario and Pichu as well while you're at it? Think about it. That's seven more years. Roy and Mewtwo will be old news, and new Pokemon and Fire Emblem characters will be created. Look, I understand that you miss these guys, but they're gone. I don't know much about Fire Emblem so I won't argue there...but Pokemon wise, in Brawl we have five first gen Pokemon and one fourth gen Pokemon as playable characters.

We've got Pikachu, the face of Pokemon. He will never mean. Brawl confirms Jigglypuff's staying power. She was there since the beginning of Smash, and even if she's lost her popularity anime wise, she has a loyal fanbase in Smash. She's underrated because of her appearance and she's full of surprises. Pokemon Trainer is the first playable Pokemon character that has considerable importance to the series, and he brings with him three iconic starters.

Now we have Lucario, the first popular Fighting type Pokemon, and he brings a unique trait with him to Smash in the form of his aura. I'd like Lucario to be in the next installment if there is one, because he's also important in the fact that even though he's not a legendary, he continues to stand next to them (being the only non-legendary to have their own movie, and having a big role alongside Cresselia and Heatran in Pokemon Ranger 2.

This is getting too long, but...I really think people who are going nuts for Mewtwo and Roy's return in the future will be pretty disappointed. Let them rest in peace already.
 

JusticeWillPrevail

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I'm fine with the game as it is now, but that doesn't mean I'd want changes. SSB4 would be fine if it was more like brawl just no tripping, L-canceling, and some more hit stun. Now for characters my top 5 would be Claus, Issac, Lyn/Miciah/current FE lord, Saki, Vatti. As for 3rd parties Megaman and an S-E character preferably Sora (what I like em so sue me =P), but since that probably wouldn't happen I'd like to see Locke or Chrono.
 
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