Chief Hotsuin
Smash Journeyman
I'm looking at Fox. Would Pikachu work under that category as well? I'm interested in him as well.
I forgot that rat existed. Yes, he would.
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I'm looking at Fox. Would Pikachu work under that category as well? I'm interested in him as well.
Have you considered Rosalina? She's light, but she sounds like a perfect match otherwise.I've been getting back into the game recently, but I feel like I don't really have anyone I like. I play Roy, but he's not really what I'm looking for.
Traits I value:
Minor preferences:
- Good poke/non-projectile zoning game
- Does damage in single hits or short strings as opposed to long combos
- At least decent at killing
- Not unviable
Old Mains: (Melee) (Melee)
- Usable recovery
- Good grab game
- Not too light
Characters I refuse to play:
I think three is a fine number, just try not to go higher. In my opinion Link is mid-tier, Mewtwo is bottom 10 (Japan thinks a little higher of him), and Pit is borderline/ high tier. So your strategy of switching to a pocket Pit is a good one, as he has little bad match-ups, and many even ones. I say keep playing these characters. There is no point in playing who you don't like, and I personally think Pit is good enough to support them.Hi all. I have a definite set of mains, but as a melee player, I am scared that they are all "bad" and not good enough. I main and , but I play a player very often and use to counter him and when my first two fail I use also. (he's probably gonna see this lol)
I know a guy who had an awesome Tink but then a good fox just demoralized him. As bad as I feel, I don't want that to happen to me.
Will I need a top tier like ? Is 3 too much for me to legitimately get good? And would 3 hold me back? If 3 is too much, which should I pick?
I highly recommend my one and only main:I've been getting back into the game recently, but I feel like I don't really have anyone I like. I play Roy, but he's not really what I'm looking for.
Traits I value:
Minor preferences:
- Good poke/non-projectile zoning game
- Does damage in single hits or short strings as opposed to long combos
- At least decent at killing
- Not unviable
Old Mains: (Melee) (Melee)
- Usable recovery
- Good grab game
- Not too light
Characters I refuse to play:
?I'm in a serious predicament.
I was a pacman main ever since the game came out, but I eventually started to realize that I'm not a natural defensive player. It bores me after a while. I love a character that has a lot of room for flashy, creative setups/combos and I need to have depth. An easy bake, linear character that has one streamlined goal is my anathema. I also love projectile/item play, but rather than using projectiles to keep an opponent out, I want to use them to extend combos or create innovative offensive traps.
A safe and rewarding SH game is important to me as well.
The problem is, I don't know what aggressive character has these qualities. Mind helping a bro out?
I greatly appreciate your advice when I saw cloud's trailer, I went nuts! Yeah I can definitely see how he could fit my play style. His trailor alone make me replay final fantasy 7
;?I'm in a serious predicament.
I was a pacman main ever since the game came out, but I eventually started to realize that I'm not a natural defensive player. It bores me after a while. I love a character that has a lot of room for flashy, creative setups/combos and I need to have depth. An easy bake, linear character that has one streamlined goal is my anathema. I also love projectile/item play, but rather than using projectiles to keep an opponent out, I want to use them to extend combos or create innovative offensive traps.
A safe and rewarding SH game is important to me as well.
The problem is, I don't know what aggressive character has these qualities. Mind helping a bro out?
Diddy and Peach have been suggested, and they're good suggestions, but I might add Toon Link and Mega Man to the list. While they are defensive, they are also very mobile. A part of their play is keeping opponents out, but its also subtly pressuring with your items and hit-and-run tactics. Both characters are fun to watch, and have interesting combos off of their items.I'm in a serious predicament.
I was a pacman main ever since the game came out, but I eventually started to realize that I'm not a natural defensive player. It bores me after a while. I love a character that has a lot of room for flashy, creative setups/combos and I need to have depth. An easy bake, linear character that has one streamlined goal is my anathema. I also love projectile/item play, but rather than using projectiles to keep an opponent out, I want to use them to extend combos or create innovative offensive traps.
A safe and rewarding SH game is important to me as well.
The problem is, I don't know what aggressive character has these qualities. Mind helping a bro out?
Hello person I've never seen before. I was looking through this cause I was bored and I noticed you want to switch out of Pac-Man. Well I have one thing to say to you... Have you tried Robin? Think about, while Robin isn't that fast but their offense is pretty nifty. The books and sword aren't as easy to get as some of the other item users but it can open up a whole 'nother avenue of gameplay.I'm in a serious predicament.
I was a pacman main ever since the game came out, but I eventually started to realize that I'm not a natural defensive player. It bores me after a while. I love a character that has a lot of room for flashy, creative setups/combos and I need to have depth. An easy bake, linear character that has one streamlined goal is my anathema. I also love projectile/item play, but rather than using projectiles to keep an opponent out, I want to use them to extend combos or create innovative offensive traps.
A safe and rewarding SH game is important to me as well.
The problem is, I don't know what aggressive character has these qualities. Mind helping a bro out?
and immediately come to mind. isn't as stylish, and isn't as viable (mid-tier-ish imo), but I think both are good choices.Hello everyone,
Until some time ago, I've always played Smash casually, with items on, illegal stages and free-for-all, so I used to main characters that I found funny and I had fun with, like DK, Wario or Bowser (heavy hitters = strong hits = best in the game am I right?)
But I decided to change that with this current itineration of Smash. Now, I want to get better in the competitive way of playing this game, but I can't find a character that fits me.
I like characters that are fun to watch, characters that can be played efficiently being fun to see, with an stylish way of dealing with their opponents. That is why I main Falco in Melee, because of the multishines, the d-air combos and all the mix-ups he has.
Unfortunately, I cannot find a character like him in Smash 4. I've tried many characters, but I don't seem to connect with them, so I came here to ask you if you could recommend one or two characters.
So far, my conditions would be these:
-viable competitively
-have some combos (even if it's only a throw to one attack)
-have a spike
-can play defensively if required
And these would be secondary conditions, but you can request a character that doesn't fit these
-have a zoning projectile
-can edgeguard
Thanks in advance for your suggestions! I'm looking forward to them.
I know this has been said before, but consider Robin. He isn't exactly the most aggressive character in the game, but he fits a number of your criteria. His SH game is fantastic, nair, fair, bair, and up air are all big moves that either SH auto cancel or have naturally low landing lag. His projectiles start and extend combos AND keep people out. His tome mechanic both prevents linearity and provides items to throw and z-drop and such with.I'm in a serious predicament.
I was a pacman main ever since the game came out, but I eventually started to realize that I'm not a natural defensive player. It bores me after a while. I love a character that has a lot of room for flashy, creative setups/combos and I need to have depth. An easy bake, linear character that has one streamlined goal is my anathema. I also love projectile/item play, but rather than using projectiles to keep an opponent out, I want to use them to extend combos or create innovative offensive traps.
A safe and rewarding SH game is important to me as well.
The problem is, I don't know what aggressive character has these qualities. Mind helping a bro out?
First off, Taokaka yiiii~ Represent!i don't really know who to main because i don't really have much of a play style. but in skullgirls i mained ms.fortune, as well as parasol / filia / elizia, and in blazblue i mained taokaka and rachel.
uhh i guess i dlslike little mac, now that i think about it, i kinda would like to be able to do things offstage sometimes. i don't really like the slower characters a whole lot for instance DK Ganon etc. but now that you mention it, i started thinking a bit an i think i'd like to main shiek, marth, zss, peach, zelda, roy, ryu, or link.First off, Taokaka yiiii~ Represent!
Now unfortunately that doesn't tell me much except that you like...female characters? Quite a disparate variety there. If you want to find a man, but you don't know what kind of playstyle you'd prefer, I guess the best thing to ask is, what kind of playstyle do you not want to play? Do you have any characters you just dislike and don't want to main?
Okay, that's a good first step. What I'd suggest you do is hit training mode and practice each of those characters until you get a feel for them, then take them online or have a few games with a friend and see which one clicks with you best.uhh i guess i dlslike little mac, now that i think about it, i kinda would like to be able to do things offstage sometimes. i don't really like the slower characters a whole lot for instance DK Ganon etc. but now that you mention it, i started thinking a bit an i think i'd like to main shiek, marth, zss, peach, zelda, roy, ryu, or link.
I've got a fair amount of experience with a few characters () and can play most characters competently or better. I have picked up and dropped them for various reasons ranging from feeling their particular weaknesses hurt them too much, finding them too linear or boring, or just getting frustrated. I'm not super sure of what sort of player I am, despite playing the game since launch and having a decade of Smash experience under my belt. I've always been one to switch around characters constantly, even in other games like Tales of Vesperia lmao
Defensive Player? Mediocre reaction time? Playing Safe? Edgeguarding? Sucker for characters with item game? You my friend should try Pac-Man. He's so defensive that the best strategy against a lot of characters is running away and doing chip damage. Pac-Man also has 9 different items 8 Bonus Fruits plus a Power Pellet. He's also weird and plays differently than anyone else. I personally like Pac-Man because he can get really far without perfect pivoting or anything strenuous on the 3DS. The biggest problem, other than reflectors is that he can be demanding because he can't be auto piloted. You have to be thinking the whole time and mixing everything up to get in on opponents because Pac-Man has trouble against shields.Thank you for the suggestions. I will have to give them all a shot. ROB especially might be a good fit, since I'm a sucker for characters with item game. I will likely end up playing 2 or 3 characters, cycling through as I get bored, and maybe narrow them down as time goes on.
You sound like a type of person. Sure, he doesn't have as crazy combos or flashiness as , but he has good banana setups, great aerials, and fast movement to approach and escape. I would also say if you didn't care about the lack of a spike. For secondaries, I would highly consider , and because of their edgeguarding and considerably fast playstyle.Hello everyone,
Until some time ago, I've always played Smash casually, with items on, illegal stages and free-for-all, so I used to main characters that I found funny and I had fun with, like DK, Wario or Bowser (heavy hitters = strong hits = best in the game am I right?)
But I decided to change that with this current itineration of Smash. Now, I want to get better in the competitive way of playing this game, but I can't find a character that fits me.
I like characters that are fun to watch, characters that can be played efficiently being fun to see, with an stylish way of dealing with their opponents. That is why I main Falco in Melee, because of the multishines, the d-air combos and all the mix-ups he has.
Unfortunately, I cannot find a character like him in Smash 4. I've tried many characters, but I don't seem to connect with them, so I came here to ask you if you could recommend one or two characters.
So far, my conditions would be these:
-viable competitively
-have some combos (even if it's only a throw to one attack)
-have a spike
-can play defensively if required
And these would be secondary conditions, but you can request a character that doesn't fit these
-have a zoning projectile
-can edgeguard
Thanks in advance for your suggestions! I'm looking forward to them.
So do you mean that picking three different character playstyles maximum is the ideal? I`m gonna give my examples that I have so far based on your previous advice, because I made a lot of progress (thanks btw):Four is fine as well, 3 is just what I see as the most average. Technically speaking I have four mains in Sm4sh ,,, but they're clones that I can put in rotation easily and not be messed up by slight playstyle differences, so it's really just 2 or 3. Alongside this I have 4 other characters I play which are more pockets, but I still put time into them. I haven't been to many tournaments yet, but the real test to how well your amount of mains will fare in your play will be if you're comfortable in tournament while having that many. You can have those mains, but it'll be up to you to decide how you feel with that amount once you start hitting up tournaments
That sounds perfectly fine to me. For another main in Sm4sh what are you looking for? Just a character you enjoy, or somebody to cover weaknesses?So do you mean that picking three different character playstyles maximum is the ideal? I`m gonna give my examples that I have so far based on your previous advice, because I made a lot of progress (thanks btw):
64 mains: (main),(secondary)
Melee mains: (main), (secondary)
Brawl mains: (main),(secondary)
Project M mains: (main),(secondaries)
Smash 4 mains: (?)(mains),and ? (secondaries). Not done with finding characters in Smash 4.
I plan to focus more on PM and Smash 4, because they are my favorites. However, I want to have at least 2 characters, because not only I find playing only one character boring, but I want to have as more characters as I can due to how fun the other characters are. As for PM, I transfer my Melee mains in PM, and basically find two other brand new characters since I assumed that I already mastered my Melee mains in PM. What do you think about it?
Well... Basically I went through these steps and I think it helped me a lot:That sounds perfectly fine to me. For another main in Sm4sh what are you looking for? Just a character you enjoy, or somebody to cover weaknesses?
Doc and Mario are close enough for me to where they don't feel different, but Doc you need to play more defensively with and Mario you just go in with. I count them as similar for myself. It depends on if you think you've felt capable with switching between them so far. I do.Well... Basically I went through these steps and I think it helped me a lot:
1) I set my priorities about which Smash games I want to focus more on. I decided to focus more on PM and Smash 4. So I wanted to have between 2 to 4 characters.
2) For games that I try to focus less on, I only pick two characters. My first character was a character that I want him to be completely solo viable without having too many hard MUs (my main). For my second character, I just picked my favorite character to play outside of my main (my secondary). In Smash 64, since the game is pretty balanced, I chose as my first character. The second one being , because not only he's someone that I enjoy, but I think he can help some MUs for Mario. As for Melee, I went , because I love him and he fits my playstyle. As for my second character, I chose , because I feel more comfortable with him than just. The same case for Brawl, except is my secondary.
3) For Smash 4, I try to pick three characters or four if one has the same playstyle. Smash 4 is the only game to where I have two mains. My two mains are characters that I enjoy the most out of the solo viable characters. One of the two is my favorite character and the other is a character that can help cover my first character's bad MUs while enjoying him at the same time. The others are just 2 secondaries. One of them, I just pick whoever I like the most. The other is if this character has the same playstyle as one of the three characters. I haveso far.
4) As the case for PM, I just went whoever I want, because the game is so balanced. So I picked my two favorite characters to play that feel different compared to the main Smash games in terms of moveset. I combine my two favorite characters in PM and my mains in Melee, because I feel that PM and Melee are very similar in terms of fighting games, but with slight differences. So I have as secondaries (and mains in Melee) and as my favorite characters in PM, Ganon being my main.
So to answer your question. I try to find a fun character, but this is the hardest part for me, because I enjoy so many characters outside of my mains in Smash 4. Plus, I try to wait that every DLC character has been released in order to make my final decision. I choose between:and maybe. So yeah so many options for me. Also, do you think thatcount as one same playstyles or two different playstyles?
Oh thanks. I appreciate it. When it comes to listing characters that I enjoy, it's not all of them, because just like you, I enjoy pretty much everyone in the cast except .are okay, but they're just too complicated or boring to me. The characters that I listed are my favorite characters to play for competitive fun. The rest, I play for casual fun. As for, I still like him, but I feel that he's not the that I know and love to play. I try to pick another character just for a change of pace. I'm patient enough to find the last character, because I want to take the time to take the right character, so that I don't have to change constantly. Plus, I like to play so many characters at the same time. It makes it a lot more fun. Btw, I did make a thread on Mario boards about this question that I asked between Doc and Mario: http://smashboards.com/threads/mario-and-dr-mario-in-one.424479/W
Doc and Mario are close enough for me to where they don't feel different, but Doc you need to play more defensively with and Mario you just go in with. I count them as similar for myself. It depends on if you think you've felt capable with switching between them so far. I do.
There are SO many fun characters in this game, I agree with that. Let's see, Are all characters at some point I have enjoyed a ton. That's like half the cast. So yeah, decisions are hard. I have trouble sometimes, but end up coming back to my already mains and not picking up anybody in the end. I can't say exactly who you'd like best, they're all great characters that you listed. I'm secretly thinking marth, only because you main him in other games and I think he compliments the Marios very decently. Unless you seriously want to decide on that third/fourth main right this moment, I'd probably just keep using those characters you listed in rotation as that place for now. I'm waiting for that very small chance of Icees returning before deciding on bringing up one of my secondaries/pockets to maybe "replace" them, and for now I'm just playing , whichever or I'm in the mood for is filling that spot until I truly decide.
But if you want an answer, I'm gonna say marth. Not because you should, and that doesn't mean you have to. But if you focus on Marth, or any other character I could've chosen instead, you'll start to go more in-depth with that character. Going more in depth with a character helps you understand on a deeper level whether you really want to put in work with that character, and if you actually enjoy them. So I say go marth. And if you don't like how his most in depth playing is, go to another character. That's the best input I can make. Hope it helps.