The Lycia Alliance: Roy Legacy Support Thread

[LozNerd]

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[royalblue]

FROM A BOY

TO A MAN

Awh man, I'm not going to be able to keep still at work today. I'm too freaking happy. ;-; And I'm so glad Jun is still Roy's VA, he sounds fantastic. Boku wa makenai!
I look forward to maining him once again, no matter where he falls on a tier list. He is the bae, he is the boy. (But man, would it be sweet if he was higher than Marth.)

I legit cried when I heard Jun's voice. Him reprising this role was what I was hoping for more than anything. And the fact that they are all new clips is just the sweetest icing on the already delicious cake!

Aww yeah now that we can use the new Smash 4 icons Marth finally has his Roy harem in both our profiles.

It's been a good day.

 

[SSB4 Roy Pharae]

I'm probably the first one to say this in the Roy discussion, but once I download Roy, I will be doing a good amount of battles.

These battles I plan on doing:
1) Roy vs. Sonic
2) Roy and Mewtwo vs. Sonic
3) Roy vs. Marth
4) Roy vs. Ike
5) Roy vs. Lucina
6) Roy vs. Roy Koopa

One and Two are what I really plan on doing since Roy and Mewtwo could have been in Brawl if Sonic had not cut resources from them. Three since Roy is much cooler than Marth and that there are Marth vs. Roy wars. Four since both of them have the charging flame standard B's, but Roy has the fire in many of his attacks. Five since I consider Roy to be the better clone than Lucina and more unique. And yes, six, Roy Koopa, since I am quite annoyed with the Roy Koopa jokes.

I'm probably going to have a better time with Roy against these characters online hopefully! I'm just going to have to wait and get that chance to experience my new and improved boy, Roy Pharae!

 

[IsmaR]

Yeah, I'd prefer if there's a new social thread instead of moving this one to the sub-forums since the OP is too huge (and it's would look weird if it's in a spoiler tag imo). Then we could just link this one to the new one in case people want to see the old thread.

We'll have to see what the mods are going to do. @ IsmaR (or whoever does this sort of thing) will that be fine? nvm there already seems to be one.

I'll give you guys a little bit longer to use this thread to celebrate.

 

[ShionKaito438]

His artwork up top has changed from to

 

[Icedragonadam]

So who's going to do a free for all with Mewtwo vs Lucas vs Roy vs Ryu on Ryu's stage tomorrow? If they're all available tomorrow.

 

[murdokdracul]

It's almost time for....

Roy vs Roy.

Vs

No items

Final Destination.

I liked your message, but then I read your signature and found out you don't like Zelda II, so I unliked. Sorry!

 

[ShionKaito438]

So who's going to do a free for all with Mewtwo vs Lucas vs Roy vs Ryu on Ryu's stage tomorrow? If they're all available tomorrow.

First battle I'm doing with my boy is:
vs
then maybe vs for good old times sakes

 

[Nekoo]

He's a man now ... But still our boy in our Hearts ...

 

[SSB4 Roy Pharae]

So who's going to do a free for all with Mewtwo vs Lucas vs Roy vs Ryu on Ryu's stage tomorrow? If they're all available tomorrow.

I will remember that when I do get the chance to download Lucas, Ryu, and Roy! It's going to be fun though! I want to see that new Street Fighter 2 stage, and yes, I'm going to try that battle out!

 

[Knux27]

He's a man now ... But still our boy in our Hearts ...

Roy will always be our boy.

 

[SchAlternate]

http://mariopartylegacy.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/snd_vc_Roy_ouen.wav
:3

 

[Deleted member]

I knew it was going to happen after Roy got leaked. Still, congratulation to all Roy fans. I will be looking forward to playing with you all once he gets released.

And especially a congratulation to my friend @ChronoBound who was a major force in supporting Roy. The long fight that we've all fought is indeed over. Tomorrow is the day when Roy returns and we shall feast on that day.

only good part

rest in pieces

Roy sure must be hungry. It's a good thing his sword is so hot it can sizzle a bird.

So, now that our boy is confirmed for Smash 4, who is everyone planning on supporting next? If any at all?

I think I'm going to be moving onto a hopeless cause with Sparky from Drawn to Life. But if Phoenix Wright gets in (MORE CAPCOM GIVE IT TO ME) I'll be hyped as well

Just King K. Rool for the moment as he's the last character I want with a realistic shot of getting in.

 

[CrusherMania1592]

WOOT!

My roommate from college gets married today AND Roy gets revealed?


Best. Day. Ever.

Think of all the possibilities that I can use


vs
vs
vs vs vs
vs
vs
vs
vs
vs vs
vs
vs vs vs vs
vs non-FE characters
vs
vs
vs
vs
vs
vs vs
vs vs vs
vs
vs
vs
BUT THE BEST MATCH GOES TO...

vs

Trust me, we all know we want this to happen. Let's make it happen!

I'm telling ya man, this is gonna be some epic wars going on once Roy is in

 

[Icedragonadam]

WOOT!

My roommate from college gets married today AND Roy gets revealed?


Best. Day. Ever.

Think of all the possibilities that I can use


vs
vs
vs vs vs
vs
vs
vs
vs
vs vs
vs
vs vs vs vs
vs non-FE characters
vs
vs
vs
vs
vs
vs vs vs
vs
vs


I'm telling ya man, this is gonna be some epic wars going on once Roy is in

Don't forget vs

 

[CrusherMania1592]

Don't forget vs

The best match is saved for last amirite?

 

[CrazyPerson]

It's almost time for....

Roy vs Roy.

Vs

No items

Final Destination.

I heard a rumor that will have his name changed to "Roy Koopa" when comes out. I have no idea where I read this, it easily could be an unreliable source that was just speculating... but the idea makes sense.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Bless you Roy for making characters declined a possibility for DLC.
Bless you dearly.

 

[A Distant Demon]

I guess if this thread is going to die I might as well say.
's our Boy one last time.

 

[Waluigi is too big]

"WE HAVE 3 MARTH CLONES NOW. R U HAPPY ROY FANBOYS!!11!"

Our boy is back town.

 

[dy831532sssfjhhggb2224523]

http://mariopartylegacy.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/snd_vc_Roy_ouen.wav
:3

>mariopartylegacy
>sig is mario partying

 

[Yomi's Biggest Fan]

Shouldn't this thread be transferred to the Roy subforum? Just wondering.

 

[SchAlternate]

Bless you Roy for making characters declined a possibility for DLC.
Bless you dearly.

When has he ever been declined again?

 

[Nekoo]

When has he ever been declined again?

cuz Lucina i guess

 

[SchAlternate]

cuz Lucina i guess

... Again, when has he ever been declined?

 

[BluePikmin11]

I meant decloned, or what people call Luigified.

 

[DoodleDuck97]

I am so incredibly happy for you guys :'D
Roy got so much crap before.
But now he is more diverse just like the others
Can't wait to see if he comes out tomorrow with Lucas.

 

[Ura]

I was really hoping for an Awakening attire but I must say that i'm not disappointed with what I see. My main problem with the BB attre was that I thought he would be a cut and paste from Melee which isn't the case here thankfully. Do we have an info as to whether or not he's still a full clone? That's the biggest concern here.

@ A Distant Demon I initially hoped I would be able to not check Snash spoilers the moment I saw it when I woke up but I gave in to my craving unfortunately.

 

[Strider_Bond00J]

So, now that our boy is confirmed for Smash 4, who is everyone planning on supporting next? If any at all?

I think I'm going to be moving onto a hopeless cause with Sparky from Drawn to Life. But if Phoenix Wright gets in (MORE CAPCOM GIVE IT TO ME) I'll be hyped as well

After Roy, the next steps are in my signature - King K. Rool, Isaac and Rayman.

 

[Nekoo]

We must all remember those Roy quote

"HEEEEYAAAAA" - Roy 2001

Oups wrong quote...

"Boku wa Makenai" -Roy 2001

 

[False Sense]

I was really hoping for an Awakening attire but I must say that i'm not disappointed with what I see. My main problem with the BB attre was that I thought he would be a cut and paste from Melee which isn't the case here thankfully. Do we have an info as to whether or not he's still a full clone? That's the biggest concern here.

@ A Distant Demon I initially hoped I would be able to not check Snash spoilers the moment I saw it when I woke up but I gave in to my craving unfortunately.

He's not a full clone, at the very least. Some of his neutral moves are either brand new or have been tweaked a bit. Same specials as before, though.

So, he's sort of a semi-clone now.

 

[divade]

I'm probably the first one to say this in the Roy discussion, but once I download Roy, I will be doing a good amount of battles.

These battles I plan on doing:
1) Roy vs. Sonic
2) Roy and Mewtwo vs. Sonic
3) Roy vs. Marth
4) Roy vs. Ike
5) Roy vs. Lucina
6) Roy vs. Roy Koopa

One and Two are what I really plan on doing since Roy and Mewtwo could have been in Brawl if Sonic had not cut resources from them. Three since Roy is much cooler than Marth and that there are Marth vs. Roy wars. Four since both of them have the charging flame standard B's, but Roy has the fire in many of his attacks. Five since I consider Roy to be the better clone than Lucina and more unique. And yes, six, Roy Koopa, since I am quite annoyed with the Roy Koopa jokes.

I'm probably going to have a better time with Roy against these characters online hopefully! I'm just going to have to wait and get that chance to experience my new and improved boy, Roy Pharae!

I'm sorry but...
http://brawlinthefamily.keenspot.com/2013/11/08/526-smash-voters-marth/

 

[misterOWAIN33]

We won!
We wn!​

 

[Ura]

That's good to know. TBH, I just skimmed through a lot of pics and I didn't watch the video. I want to be as hyped as I can for the trailer.

 

[Chris_Skorniak]

I was really hoping for an Awakening attire but I must say that i'm not disappointed with what I see. My main problem with the BB attre was that I thought he would be a cut and paste from Melee which isn't the case here thankfully. Do we have an info as to whether or not he's still a full clone? That's the biggest concern here.

@ A Distant Demon I initially hoped I would be able to not check Snash spoilers the moment I saw it when I woke up but I gave in to my craving unfortunately.

from the footage i have seen he does have slightly different moves. His specials are the same which i love. his aerials are faster and his Dair is kinda like ikes. his speed is nice and his tilts have decently fast speed to. We got the best we could have hoped. i love him. I also am not disappointed with his attire

 

[loganhogan]

I hope this doesn't sound weird but damn Roy looks sexy!

 

[coolkimy]

I am thinking back to pre-Brawl, and us Roy fans are in a much better position this time.

Back during pre-Brawl, we were attacked by all sides. Ike fans, Lyn fans, Sigurd fans, Hector fans, Ephraim fans, Eirika fans, Micaiah fans, Black Knight fans. Over the course of pre-Brawl, the Ike, Lyn, and Sigurd fanbases basically wiped out the Hector, Ephraim, Eirika, and Micaiah fanbases. Sakurai basically wiped out the Lyn fanbase for pre-Brawl with his Assist Trophy update, and the Sigurd fanbase was destroyed when someone actually bothered to translate Sakurai's journal and pre-Melee poll. All the Lyn fans basically jumped ship to Micaiah, and it was only her and Roy that had fanbases left by the twilight of the pre-Brawl period.

Now, the only character fanbases that are left assaulting Roy are those of a wannabe Ike (Chrom) and the scattered remnants of various female Fire Emblem character fanbases (none of which can actually agree of who they want the female Fire Emblem character to be).

Roy is one of the Top 10 most wanted characters for Smash 4, yet most of his supporters are rather quiet about their support for him. We Roy fans need to be more pro-active about supporting our boy, and need to be more forthright about it.

In the coming months, the biggest obstacle will be that the Chrom fanbase will grow as a result of the Western fanbase finally getting to play Fire Emblem Awakening. This is when we will probably start to see some real Chrom fans instead of people that just want to rally behind a character they think will likely get in (expected, not wanted).

Since FE13 will likely be getting some of the highest praise of any Fire Emblem since 2007, we should be prepared for this coming assault. However, at the end of the day, Chrom is simply Fire Emblem's Zoroark. A retread of another popular face from yesterday.

We need to be more aggressive in challenging the lies and mythos of the Roy-hater. That Roy's game was bad. That Roy's inclusion was Intelligent System's decision. That Roy's game sold poorly. That Roy should not return because he was a clone. That Roy is not important to Fire Emblem.

When you internalize such things and such lies, you become demoralized and your fellow allies become demoralized. The reason I think Roy-haters are so aggressive is much like I think the Geno and Krystal fanbases prior to Brawl were so aggressive, a lot of it is insecurity. A lot of them are deeply afraid Roy can return, and if he does return it will be at the expense of a character they personally like (if its anyone other than Chrom, Roy did not steal anyone's spot). The anti-Roy animus is thus driven from insecurity and delusions.

Because a significant contigent of the anti-Roy faction are supporters of various female Fire Emblem characters, one way to demoralize them would be to make it clear their are only four Fire Emblem characters in the fight for Smash 4, Marth, Ike, Roy, and Chrom. If they say Lyn, point out Lyn was nothing more than a tutorial lord and she is unpopular in Japan. If its Micaiah, point out that Ike is already there to represent Tellius. If they support Lucina, point out that Marth's most current design basically would make Lucina nothing more than a lighter, quicker Marth clone at best. These female-character supporters are driven by their lust not logic, so challenging them could prove to be of a greater effort than we think.

Of course, there are also a great deal of ways to also challenge Chrom's worth as a playable character.

However, besides taking the fight to the competition, we Roy fans can also play up the worth of Roy to be in a Smash 4. Tell stories about how we loved using Roy in Melee. Talk about how Roy got us to try out the Smash Bros. series. Talk about Roy's cool new re-design. Talk about Roy's fire sword and the unique abilities to the Sword of Seals. Talk about the prospects of a FE6 remake (which Intelligent Systems is interested in doing, and will probably do if Roy does return for Smash 4). Talk about a Roy that was basically the face of GBA Fire Emblem. Talk about a Roy whose game had a manga in Shonen Jump (show off chapters that show off Roy's abilities in said manga). We all support Roy because at one point brought some enjoyment to ourselves when we played Melee with friends and family, or introduced ourselves to a series (Fire Emblem) that we still enjoy. A Roy that gave us those things from 2001-2007 is a Roy that can give a new generation those things when Smash 4 is released.

Sakurai designed Roy in Melee with the purpose of us falling in love with a character whom we have never experienced their game (Sakurai flat out said in the Melee dojo that although Roy's game had not been release yet, he had a feeling that many people would love Roy for his "charm"). Roy has and can continue to be a character that will make people interested in Fire Emblem, and bring new fans to the series.

If he returns, I can also guarantee he will be one of the most popularly used "newcomers" (though technically he is just a cut veteran).

Roy despite being a clone in Melee, stood apart from Marth, and stood apart from the rest of the cast. If you ask a casual, "Who is Roy" they will respond "that red-headed swordsman with the flaming sword." Such a simple description, yet also a distinctive one that would still set him apart from a roster of over 50 just as much as it did in a roster of 26.

I have a feeling Roy will be among the last characters added for Smash 4, so our fan perseverance may be what gets him on the roster for a character may be on the edge.

Let us reclaim Roy's throne.

Roy for Smash 4.

that was beautiful...

 

[coolkimy]

from the footage i have seen he does have slightly different moves. His specials are the same which i love. his aerials are faster and his Dair is kinda like ikes. his speed is nice and his tilts have decently fast speed to. We got the best we could have hoped. i love him. I also am not disappointed with his attire

same

 

[Tahu Mata]

Roy was my 2nd favorite character in Melee and I loved using him, and I was sad when he was cut from Brawl. After that, for years I silently hoped for his return. When I discovered this thread, that's when I decided to break my silence and fully show my love and support for Roy. It was really fun speculating and just talking with you guys this past month and a half. I want you to know I'm glad I met all of you, and you're all great people. After all these years of supporting him, he's finally here. I may have come late to the battle, but I'm at least glad I could fight alongside you guys until the end.
So with that, I say: Roy's our Boy!

 

[Ura]

You know, now that I think about it, Roy in this game pretty much looks like how he does in Awakening almost.

This is pretty much what Awakening Roy would look like with his BB attire.