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Yeah, This how I felt. Going into Smash Speculation Ridley, K Rool and Ashley were my most wanted that I felt had good chances. Shantae and Vaati rounded out my top 5, but those were pipedreams. Characters I know won't get in and would be happy if they were even assists. Now that the fates of those three are known I really have nothing to speculate and it's not as fun without Ashley.
It's definitely slowed down, but I really hope the support doesn't die down so soon.
Consider it liked~
Except people got used to R.O.B. The other two are near impossible to beat out in terms of WTF status. Bayonetta, because we all know she didn’t even win the smash ballot which caused a huge controversy until it was known the ballot would be used in the future and she’s always OP because Sakurai refuses to nerf her enough for it to actually matter. Corrin, because no one likes this character except for the small amount of people with a foot fetish. Everyone else was outraged from what I can tell. So yeah, kind of hard for Kat & Ana to be that bad.
The gap in the roster is a thorn in my side.
I don’t really count Isaac because his AT wasn’t in smash 4, so he wouldn’t exactly be getting promoted from assist. And I just don’t see Saki happening, at least for base game. As far as we know there is definitely one more assist massacre. Only then will we know who got promoted. (Or scrapped completely.)
Same. I haven't watched Ultimate discussion for this reason. I wouldn't have put all my eggs into one basket, but I didn't really care for anyone else.
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I don't see Elec Man getting in because he's not relevant. The other 3 I think have a varying degrees of chances with SK probably being the only likely one. I'm skeptical as to whether Saki, Isaac, or Skull Kid makes it in but I wouldn't mind them. The less competition for DLC, the better.
I'm slightly concerned about this, petitions for gaming have somewhat of a bad rep since the Wii U days. Also it's a bit odd to just say she can't be playable in a petition about making her playable.
Hopefully you have better luck than me. I've been playing the game since it came out Stateside on the 3rd, and have yet to get that darn game, haha.
I have recovered for the most part, tho it still stings slightly whenever i think about it. It'll be gone soon enough, but not giving up on her
I think you're being pretty hard on them. You're right they aren't the best choice in terms of popularity, Ashley was. But Ashley's not in right now.
.. and I'm only talking about Kat & Ana right now because she's not in. I'd love for Mona as an alternative, but having two cuteys running around with shurikens (or other ninja stuff, and animals) or whatever, is pretty appealing to me :D
Cool!
You're probably really close by now. I've had the game for the same amount and I already unlocked everything except the B and A Cards.
This and the Mona thread are probably the only other threads I'll support.
Just ignore it. Assholes are everywhere. That goes for other haters too. Don't get flustered by anyone who disagrees with Ashley being playable because she's an assist. Just support her inclusion, Don't argue it.
I am curious, who made that picture?
Welcome to the internet. I’m going to guarantee there are people who hate K. Rool just as much and wanted lord fredrik instead. Always ignore hate and focus on the support.
Unfortunately, all it took was just 2 people. But that won't stop the rest of us
In this case, there's no such thing as bad publicity. This is further proof Ashley resonated with the fans.
Exactly this. No opinion on the Internet has unanimous support, ever. Ashley being a viable Smash Bros. candidate is no exception. And it doesn't matter what a few stragglers on the Internet think, anyway. The question is, has Ashley's support made an impression on Sakurai enough to add her as DLC later? It obviously made enough of an impression for him to reveal Ashley as an AT and rip the band-aid off before support could grow any more, so I'd say we're doing something right, even if there are those who would rather see us unhappy, or who were quick to abandon ship after the disconfirmation. Again, those people's opinions don't matter.
I felt the same way. King K. Rool was my most-wanted during the Ballot (delegated to third most-wanted during Ultimate's development), and any and all Metroid representation is welcome by me, so K. Rool and Dark Samus more than numbed the disappointment I felt seeing her as an AT again. I'm still going to buy the game, and there's a lot that I'm excited about, but my most-wanted newcomer remaining an Assist Trophy is not one of those things.
Same. If Sakurai's really interested in fulfilling the fan desires for Ultimate, I can see the DLC going a bit crazy. First wave would be those that missed the bus (Springman, Rex, Edelgard and a Gen 8 Pokemon) while the 2nd wave can be fan favorites that didn't make it in including an assist trophy or two. Waluigi and Ashley are the two that make the most sense for promotion as I don't believe 3rd parties will for various factors.
The roster's already looking pretty "ultimate" as is, but DLC that caters to the younger Nintendo fans who were comparably overlooked during the base game's development would crank that up to "perfect".
The only 3rd party I wouldn't be outright annoyed over in Smash DLC is Banjo. I'm fully satisfied with the Smash 3rd party representation as it is and it definitely seemed a bit overboard in Smash Wii U.
Yeah, I'm incredibly picky about third-parties, but characters like Banjo and Bomberman are special cases, as they were created by companies that were essentially second-party Nintendo developers before being bought out by larger companies. As a whole, I would hate for fans of popular Nintendo characters to get excited about DLC, only to watch their favorite characters get shafted a second time in order to make way for even more third-parties. Call me crazy, but I think that a game about celebrating Nintendo characters should overwhelmingly focus on Nintendo characters, haha.
Yeah, at this point the third parties are taking up a whopping 10% of the roster at the least (assuming there isn’t more to come in a later direct.) IMO that’s too many already, especially when a lot of Nintendo picks get overlooked(Dixie Kong, Bandana Dee, etc.) even when they have double the popularity of Bayonetta, who I didn’t even know existed before the smash ballot due to paying attention to first parties and actual good third parties like Crash and Banjo.
My sentiments exactly. Even Crash is kind of iffy to me (this is coming from a life-long Crash fan, mind you, so nothing against the character), so you can only imagine my thoughts on characters like Snake and Bayonetta. I'm not adverse to third-parties, but, in my opinion, they need a darn good reason to be in, and "my friend Kojima asked me to do it" and "Nintendo felt like producing a sequel to a niche property for some reason" aren't good enough reasons to me. Of course, regardless of my feelings, Snake and Bayo are veterans, nonetheless, so I'm happy for their fans that those characters are back.
At this rate, I’d say after every bit of dlc we will be pretty close to if not at 90 Characters (seeing as this game will last at least 2 years), and I’d be very surprised if Ashley isn’t one of them. I also have something that is bothering me: we are pretty much guaranteed to end with more fire emblem clones than Mario, and maybe even pokemon in general. It sucks to have series like WarioWare, DKC, and Zelda struggle to earn any new reps (let’s face it, Zelda’s newest is toon link and that was ten years ago from a franchise that deserves more reps than fire emblem anyway and is getting shammed considering half of what they already have are links.)
Isaac seems like a character who would be implemented in the base roster, if anything. Isaac's a lot like K. Rool, considering he's been MIA for the last decade, the glaring difference being that Golden Sun is pretty much dead. Sakurai has gone on record saying that he doesn't typically consider characters from dead franchises (retro reps and Falcon notwithstanding), so Isaac's only hope is that his presence on the Ballot was pronounced enough to change Sakurai's opinion.
That’s one thing Ashley has that waluigi doesn’t: legitimate support that didn’t come almost entirely from memes (no offense to any real waluigi fans). And the way they showed her just to shut off the support before people got too disappointed with the end result... couple that with the big guns like Ridley, K. Rool, and Inkling out of the way, and I’d say she’s a lock for dlc. With how they showed her off as to not disappoint us, it shows she might be in the big three in terms of support.
That's why I'm grateful this place exists, because people here are generally respectful of Ashley's supporters. Go other places (reddit, ugh) and people are like "who the **** is ashley?? LOL idiots thinking some irrelevant character no one knows deserves to get in. now back to why i think Isaac/Rayman/Crash/Labo Man deserve to get in..."