The Legendary Joe Bushman111 vs Jiano

[Jiano]

Thanks to Capps for recording and uploading the vids.

Jiano vs Joe Bushman111
Match 1
Match 2
Match 3
Match 4

 

[HylianLord]

owww... falcon on ganon is .... bleh lol

oh well, that doesn't mean you didn't do a great job jiano XD. bushman too. great stuff ^^

 

[Brightside6382]

crazy good comeback in match 3 Jiano. **** first this then Huge Johnz!!! Falcon is just to cheap :/

 

[Winston]

Hmm, here's to hoping he doesn't stay legendary for too long (aka there are like, no vids of him)... and we get to see him play =)

 

[The Cape]

Amazing Falcon.

@ Battlefield match.

You could have won that.

LOL @ Stadium.

Good Shiz

 

[Elrodillazo]

great matches

 

[Pyrostormer]

Nice matches. I know Joe is better than that though..

 

[phanna]

Good quality camcorder recordings, props to whoever did that, and fun to watch; good matches. Nonetheless, these vids make me lol @ people comparing bushman to Tipman.

Edit: and before COK freaks out on me (read: Watty), I'm not saying that bushman isn't an extremely talented Ganon, but Tipman is the only legendary Ganon.

And people don't need to whine about the match-up. I've always thought it was only marginally in Falcon's favor, but so many people have argued with me that it's even overall, but that stage is an important factor.

 

[SmashterLink]

Great matches. I always enjoy watching your Ganon Joe. Jiano, great falcon as well. The matches were awesome to watch.

 

[Vall3y]

falcon vs ganon is so fun
enjoyable matches

 

[Drephen]

phanna your an as.shole

 

[linkmastersword]

in all honesty and with respect to Joe... I feel that he wasted almost every grab by dthrowing falcon. Uthrow gives way more opportunities, also bthrow off the level is good to start the 'tipman" edgegaurding.

Jiano, very impressive.

How did a ganon and cf make it to the finals in the first place?

 

[technomancer]

Good stuff here. Grats to Jiano, good stuff Bushman as well, and match 3 was an awesome comeback.

 

[petoo0]

Bushman is too good. great matches. Jiano has a nice Falco too...sorry not to familiar with Mid-wet players so I can't say much more.

 

[phanna]

phanna your an as.shole

So let me get this straight: My posting that the video was well-recorded, fun to watch, and featuring great gameplay, but commenting that Tipman is the best, makes me an "*******"? The only way that would be possible is if you think Bushman is SO much better than Tipman that for someone like me to suggest otherwise makes them a complete douchebag, in which case, you are arrogant, judgemental, and wholly wrong. I appreciate your ardor for your crew, but you're overzealousness portrays you, and by association, all of COK in a poor light. Get some sportsmanship, a decent vocabulary, and maybe some insight before posting.

 

[mathos]

ooooooooooooooopppppppssssssss

 

[Drephen]

first of all i don't represent COK, mathos does

I'm not saying that bushman isn't an extremely talented Ganon, but Tipman is the only legendary Ganon.

being ignorant as hell right there. If anything Eddie is the legendary gannon. By what you said, i take it as you saying that theres is no one on tipman's level. Not bushman, captain awsome, noobking, or any other gannons. So what you said was ignorant.

Besides who the hell has Tipman beat anyway? Don't say chillin cause he went marth and was ****ing around with him. Who else? hmmmm prolly just scrubs like you in florida.

Eddie has beaten tons of people on both coasts, everyone in the midwest, including azen, pc, chu and tons of big names

Joe has beaten azen, caveman, rob$, dope, tink, etc.


I never said the Joe is wayyyyyyy better than Tipman, but you said tipman was.

 

[StripesOrBars]

Tipman would have destroyed Jiano.

Like, wait.

. . . .

Obliterate, is a much better word.

Sorry, but comparing Bushman to Tipman is not allowed.

Tippy is just too good.

I mean, WAS too good.

No johns dickmunchs.



Edit: And lol @ Chillen was just messin with Tip. He beat Chillen's Fox, then Chillen counter picked Battlefield and Went Marth. I can't believe you of all people could say that.

Well, I guess Chillen was just messin with Drephy Boy at at Smash Aid 7 in the finals.

Oh,wait, that's right, I got you that win(MidEast FTW).

But yeah, I'm sure Chillen(the 2nd best Fox) was just messing around in an MLG set, where Tipman 2 stocked his Fox and then went on to 3 stock his Marth.

And might I ask who Bushman has beat? Besides some random Midwest n00b/ESE kid?

2nd Edit: And Eddie can't beat anything with Ganon anymore. Its funny that people call him the legendary Ganon.

He was legendary when everyone was horrific at this game.

And lol @ the people Eddies HAS beaten. When did he beat them? Surely not recently.

Tipman made Ganon.

Tipman = The father of Ganon

Midwest=JohnWest.

(but seriously, the MW johns like cahrahzahy)

 

[Truegamer#1]

That....
was a good match....
falcon kicked his ***...

 

[Lixivium]

Are there any 1v1 videos of Tipman? I'd like to see what the hype is about.

 

[Truegamer#1]

Are there any 1v1 videos of Tipman? I'd like to see what the hype is about.

me too.....

 

[XZalla]

Use the search function.. ^^^

Seriously, what's with the uproar on who has the best Ganon? I'd say just look on to each of the player's fighting style.

Joe is good.
Tipman is good.
Eddie is good. But him playing as fox... not really liking that.

But personally, do you guys think these players have flaws?

 

[petoo0]

If you guys want vids of Tipman go to his Ganon guide in the Ganon forums. He has vids of himself and other great Ganon at the bottom up for downloads. They pretty old but are the only thing available as far as I know other than VoD of MLGs'. However Stripes is trying to get some up so hopefully those will be up soon.

 

[Drephen]

DooDah read my whole post before you answer

Edit: And lol @ Chillen was just messin with Tip. He beat Chillen's Fox, then Chillen counter picked Battlefield and Went Marth. I can't believe you of all people could say that.

alright i'll give ya chillin, but seriously who else besides him has he beaten? i want names

And might I ask who Bushman has beat? Besides some random Midwest n00b/ESE kid?

Joe has beaten azen, caveman, rob$, dope, tink, etc.

i know Joe has beaten a bunch of other good people outside the midwest like a bunch of people from FC3/6

2nd Edit: And Eddie can't beat anything with Ganon anymore. Its funny that people call him the legendary Ganon.

He was legendary when everyone was horrific at this game.

And lol @ the people Eddies HAS beaten. When did he beat them? Surely not recently.

Tipman = The father of Ganon

Eddie invented gannon not Tipman dumb fuc.k. Anyway who has been around a decent time could tell you that. Ask Tipman yourself and he will tell you the same thing.

Sure Eddie doesnt beat too many big names nowadays but he did revolutionize gannon.

 

[StripesOrBars]

Let me rephrase what I said.

Tipman REINVENTED Ganon.

Edit:Tippy also beat Mike G, Shiz, and Wes to name a few.

 

[JBM falcon08]

who's playing still? joe bushman.

joe wins.

 

[turbo_ja]

where are the tipman vids !!

 

[Linguini]

Tipman 3 stocked my ganon!
Im now better than Eddie!!!

 

[DYC]

in all honesty and with respect to Joe... I feel that he wasted almost every grab by dthrowing falcon. Uthrow gives way more opportunities, also bthrow off the level is good to start the 'tipman" edgegaurding.

No it doesn't. Ganon dthrow's fast fallers and tech chases with regrabs stomps or fairs. Know your matchups.

 

[Sargent_Peach]

So let me get this straight: My posting that the video was well-recorded, fun to watch, and featuring great gameplay, but commenting that Tipman is the best, makes me an "*******"? The only way that would be possible is if you think Bushman is SO much better than Tipman that for someone like me to suggest otherwise makes them a complete douchebag, in which case, you are arrogant, judgemental, and wholly wrong. I appreciate your ardor for your crew, but you're overzealousness portrays you, and by association, all of COK in a poor light. Get some sportsmanship, a decent vocabulary, and maybe some insight before posting.

Im going to have to agree with phanna. This is one of the best written arguments/burns, I have ever read.

Drephen, I have respect for you and what you've done (ive seen your vids and some of your posts), but how do you not represent your crew?

On the other hand the matches were good. Jiano's Cfalcon was amazing and Joe had a nice one at Poke stadium, even though he lost. The double wizards foot was classic.

 

[Drephen]

Im going to have to agree with phanna. This is one of the best written arguments/burns, I have ever read.

Drephen, I have respect for you and what you've done (ive seen your vids and some of your posts), but how do you not represent your crew?

On the other hand the matches were good. Jiano's Cfalcon was amazing and Joe had a nice one at Poke stadium, even though he lost. The double wizards foot was classic.

i represent myself not my crew, "drephen doesn't like apples?" "that must mean all of COK hates apples!"

doesnt work like that


phanna or some other ****** always starts this **** anyway. Any vid of any gannon and its like "OMG Tipman is sooooo much better" besides just focusing on the match itself and not instantly comparing it.

 

[linkmastersword]

No it doesn't. Ganon dthrow's fast fallers and tech chases with regrabs stomps or fairs. Know your matchups.

Thank you for responding to my comment.

and LOL at ganon techchasing a dthrow on fastfallers. decent DI backwards and a backwards tech is not chase-able for Ganon.

Basically, I don't like to do Dthrow on fastfallers because it ultimately comes down to a guess on which way they tech. I prefer uthrow (only on open areas) because he can overb, dtilt, downb, possible regrab before they have a chance to tech. It eliminates the chance of just straight up missing like Joe did several times in that fight.

also, all the options you have with a dthrow you still have with an uthrow, its just that uthrows give ganon more time to see where they DI and tech. the main disadvantage is that the Dair is very hard to tech chase off an uthrow, and that's just a darn shame. but uthrow to overb puts the person in a similarly bad situation.

It basically comes down to a matter of play style, I prefer to play it safer because I can't read my opponent all that well when I've never played them before. Maybe that's why Joe couldn't do it so well either.

 

[Sargent_Peach]

you need to go to the ganon character specific thread and look at the ganon chain grab guide. He 0 to death cg's a falco, its awesome.

@Drephen- i guess that makes sense, i never really thought of it that way. to tell you the truth, i dont even use my crews sig either so i feel where you are coming from.

 

[DYC]

LOL at ganon techchasing a dthrow on fastfallers. decent DI backwards and a backwards tech is not chase-able for Ganon.

You are operating under the assumption that ganon tech chases in the same fashion as faster characters. He does not. Ganon relies more on learning someones teching pattern and exploiting short techs via ledges.

 

[Xelyst]

match 4 was ****... good job

 

[linkmastersword]

You are operating under the assumption that ganon tech chases in the same fashion as faster characters. He does not. Ganon relies more on learning someones teching pattern and exploiting short techs via ledges.

agreed, but some one please acknowledge that the dthrow isn't always the best option. uthrow is good if you can throw them on a platform so you can punish them after a tech or whatever and has other purposes. but overall Dthrow > uthrow

 

[AS Money]

just look at drephan he has no COK in his sig

 

[Drephen]

just look at drephan he has no COK in his sig

oh its there, its just hidden =)

 

[AS Money]

ahh its way too big for such a small sig space

i like break danceing vegita anyway