The Half Genie Protector of Scuttle Town, Shantae for SSB4 (WayForward wants her in Smash)

[smashkirby]

Here's the full list I have so far, I'll link their Behind the Voice Actors page so you can know who they are:
Risky Boots: Laura Post or Karen Strassman
Rottytops: Lauren Landa
Sky: Carrie Keranen
Bolo: Lucien Dodge or Yuri Lowenthal
Mimic: Charles Martinet
Abner Cadaver: Sean Schemmel or Kyle Hebert
Poe: Casey Robertson or Christopher Corey Smith
Squid Baron: Kirk Thronton or Scott Whyte
Ammo Baron: Patrick Seitz

I'm still trying to figure out Major Scuttlebutt, Barracuda Joe, the other barons, etc. (I'm trying to take into account actors who've worked with Cristina Vee before) If they show up again, I definitely want Twitch and Vinager (the girls from Saliva Island) to be voiced by Stephanie Komure and Stephanie Sheh (though I'm unsure which voice for who) and for Brandon/Bran-Son to be voiced by Martin "LittleKuriboh" Billany

Seems like a solid cast!

 

[Wademan94]

Seems like a solid cast!

Thanks, If you know anything about voice actors, I would love to hear your thoughts on this

(Huh, didn't think it'd take this long to reach page 101)

 

[Mikegamer0608]

Found quite a lot of awesome miiverse posts.
The first one was made by a popular miiverse poster.

Spoiler

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHkViGoR8A

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/replies/AYMHAAACAAADVHkViuXjag

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https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHkV9nYOiA

 

[B.H. and DD]

Found quite a lot of awesome miiverse posts.
The first one was made by a popular miiverse poster.

Spoiler

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHkViGoR8A

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/replies/AYMHAAACAAADVHkViuXjag

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHkV3dwaeg

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHkVu4Srxw

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYQHAAABAACXVHhm81-7pg

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYQHAAABAACNUKFI3sHYag

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYQHAAABAACNUKFI1QC9ew

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHkVoiATSg

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https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHkVbkzIrA

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHkVYetzUA

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHkVN0X1AQ

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYQHAAABAACNUKFIvoQ0aw

https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHkU8GJSag

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"Nobody knows who Shantae is!"
Yep... no one at all!

 

[RosaPeach]

Shantae should have Tetra Swap

 

[conTAgi0n]

It is a good point, with all the support Shantae has been getting within the ballot she can always have a chance in Smash 5 since the ballot is a suggestion box after all she's bound to be noticed by Sakurai and added down the line, also when Shantae: Risky's Revenge Director's cut is released in Japan we'll possibly gain more supporters.

I think if we are gonna be realistic, this ballot is Shantae's one big chance. By the time Smash 5 rolls around, Shantae's (near) exclusive relationship with Nintendo will be ancient history, and I don't see her getting in without that. Fortunately I do think she has a great chance at making it through this ballot, as long as we keep the Shantae hype train in full steam.



By the way, since I posted about responding to Shantae naysayers earlier, here is an example of how I typically respond to them. This exchange is from today on reddit, on this post:

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redditor:

I like how you talk in the comments about not adding more options, or even an "other" option because "those characters won't win anyway" when your poll includes Shantae and Shovel Knight, two characters who have next to no chance of "winning" the ballot themselves. You include characters like Bayonetta and Ridley when there's no way they'd "win" the ballot.

This is a wildly inaccurate poll. Limiting voters to only a set of choices that you personally think will win anyway is going to skew your results, and your own perception of who is "winning" is itself skewed based on a North American rather than worldwide sample of discussion, and a sample focused mainly on the small subsection of hardcore fans, not the general audience at large.

me:

Shantae, Shovel Knight, Bayonetta, and Ridley are all popular candidates. That they have "next to no chance" is just your personal speculation (with the exception of Ridley, since Sakurai explicitly stated that he does not think Ridley would work in the game).

However there are meaningful omissions, in particular Banjo Kazooie, Paper Mario, and Bandana Dee. I can't think of what candidates with significant popularity aside from them aren't included here, but it's possible I'm forgetting one. These, along with an "other" option, should be added to the poll, and the spelling for several names should be fixed. Then it would be a reasonable poll.

redditor:

Bayonetta is not remarkably popular anywhere, Ridley is simply going to remain a boss. Shantae and Shovel Knight are very popular in the US, yet Shantae has only had low quality ports of Risky's Revenge release in Japan and Shovel Knight still hasn't released in Japan. On a worldwide level, those two are practically unknown in perhaps the most important region and absolutely have little to no chance.

me:

It is just a guess how Sakurai will weigh lack of recognition in Japan. In terms of sales of Smash 4, and probably number of votes as well, Japan is most definitely not the most important region - that honor goes to the US. Plus there's a good chance that Nintendo would view lack of recognition for popular indie characters in Japan as an opportunity rather than a drawback. Both Shantae and Shovel Knight have proper Japanese localizations in the works, and a Smash appearance for both would translate into a lot of eshop sales as soon as those localizations are finished. Shantae in particular would be popular in Japan based on her design alone (and probably Shovel Knight as well, to a lesser extent).

The only evidence we have for the popularity of characters is online polls, which have lots of problems as a statistical sampling. Even on those though, Bayonetta doesn't do too badly, usually placing between #10 and #20. Is that popular enough that Sakurai will consider her on her own merits? I think it probably is, but just like you, I am only guessing. We do know that the ballot is not a direct popularity contest. Nintendo will probably look at some unknown range of the most popular characters, and then decide which ones they think it makes the most sense to add. When they get to that list of finalists, how will Sakurai weight popularity as a factor for inclusion? Heavily? Not at all? There's no way for us to even guess reliably, let alone know.

I will agree with you that Ridley is very unlikely, and that is because for Ridley, unlike almost every other ballot contender, we know what Sakurai's thoughts are on his inclusion - Ridley's too big. Since Sakurai has already stated clearly that he does not think Ridley should be in the game despite his popularity, Ridley's chances are indeed low. Even for Ridley though, I can't say I know for a fact that he has absolutely no chance, because Sakurai did also state that the remaining DLC characters would be "fan service," which could mean that he sets aside some of his personal objections in favor of appeasing the fans.

My point in all of this is that we simply do not know enough to say that any popular ballot candidate has little or no chance, except for maybe Ice Climbers and Ridley (and barring obvious joke candidates). And yet there's not a single popular ballot candidate I can think of that I haven't seen someone claim has absolutely no chance with the same supreme confidence that you just demonstrated. It's totally unjustified, and whether intentional or not, it also has the insidious effect of undermining candidates that really do have a chance on the basis of specious reasoning. It's fine to express our opinions as long as they are accompanied with an explicit acknowledgment that they are just our personal hypotheses and nothing more, but all this unjustified certainty is intellectually dishonest.

redditor:

Good points, I was in the wrong. I accept your argument.

I will, however, still contend that characters without Japanese popularity almost certainly have less chance than characters who are unpopular in any other region. If only because Sakurai has a history of directly favoring the Japanese side of the market with his character inclusions more extensively than him favoring any other region. Just based on history.

EDIT: But yeah, all my estimation if that wasn't clear.

me:

I would agree that lack of Japanese recognition is probably a drawback rather than a positive. I personally would also guess that it is no bigger an obstacle than those faced by other candidates (for example, series over-saturation for Mario characters), and thus is by no means a fatal hindrance. But of course, I am just guessing too.

And yeah, I hope I don't come off as aggressive or anything. I just know that forum conversations like this do influence people's opinions, and the average reader may not necessarily be informed enough to distinguish our hypothesizing from statements of fact, unless we make the appropriate qualifications. Nobody wants to see their ballot pick get dragged down by the false perception that there's no hope for them, which is why I always try to make a point of saying something when I see people make statements to that effect.

Good luck to whatever character you're voting for :-)

 

[Black-magic13]

I think if we are gonna be realistic, this ballot is Shantae's one big chance. By the time Smash 5 rolls around, Shantae's (near) exclusive relationship with Nintendo will be ancient history, and I don't see her getting in without that. Fortunately I do think she has a great chance at making it through this ballot, as long as we keep the Shantae hype train in full steam.



By the way, since I posted about responding to Shantae naysayers earlier, here is an example of how I typically respond to them. This exchange is from today on reddit, on this post:

Spoiler

redditor:



me:



redditor:



me:



redditor:



me:

Nicely done!

 

[Solo Bolo]

With previous people here making moveset possibilities, I absolutely like the idea of the charging animations of her smash attacks being the dances. Let us consider this:

The entire charge length will consist of both button presses. Each animal transformation in the original game started off with the same first dance, followed by a different one. With that in mind, it would make guessing which smash attack Shantae is using difficult until the second dance.

Of course, depending on the situation in battle, it may be more obvious.

 

[TheRickyWill]

I know Sakurai tends to favor Japanese-made characters over western, but I personally that the point of Sakurai only putting "popular" candidates in Smash Bros, especially third party characters, in terms of Japan, somewhat falls flat when you remember that has been in the past two games.

Yes, Sega does have quite the following in Japan, but Sonic has rarely to never had a game sell well there, even on Nintendo platforms.

Within the first week, Sonic Colors on Wii sold 4,300 copies, and the DS version, surprisingly, sold worse, with 2,900 copies.

Sonic Lost World barely broke 5,000 within it's first week.

And Sonic Boom... pfft-

 

[SuperSegaSonicSS]

I know Sakurai tends to favor Japanese-made characters over western, but I personally that the point of Sakurai only putting "popular" candidates, in terms of Japan, somewhat falls flat when you remember that has been in the past two games.

Yes, Sega does have quite the following in Japan, but Sonic has rarely to never had a game sell well there, even on Nintendo platforms.

Within the first week, Sonic Colors on Wii sold 4,300 copies, and the DS version, surprisingly, sold worse, with 2,900 copies.

Sonic Lost World barely broke 5,000 within it's first week.

And Sonic Boom... pfft-

You gotta keep in mind he was a last minute addition, he wasn't planned for Brawl, and that over assertive fan demand with the addition of Snake was why he got in, and well, he's a pure blown legend in gaming, despite his later years of games and of the Japanese audience. Sonic really, imo, only got in Smash 4 because of that Sega and Nintendo partnership they had during Smash 4's development, so they capitalized on that.

But really though, although Japan get's more referenced from moreso than the western audiences, that doesn't necessarily mean this applies to just anyone, the 3rd parties in this game has all had some significance in gaming's history, either with Nintendo by most sales on their consoles, or, being a long time rival which in a way, aided to Nintendo's benefit for marketing purposes.

 

[TheRickyWill]

You gotta keep in mind he was a last minute addition, he wasn't planned for Brawl, and that over assertive fan demand with the addition of Snake was why he got in, and well, he's a pure blown legend in gaming, despite his later years of games and of the Japanese audience. Sonic really, imo, only got in Smash 4 because of that Sega and Nintendo partnership they had during Smash 4's development, so they capitalized on that.

But really though, although Japan get's more referenced from moreso than the western audiences, that doesn't necessarily mean this applies to just anyone, the 3rd parties in this game has all had some significance in gaming's history, either with Nintendo by most sales on their consoles, or, being a long time rival which in a way, aided to Nintendo's benefit for marketing purposes.

Wayforward and Gaijin Games/Choice Provisions have delivered some of the highest-scoring original titles for their downloadable game services (Wiiware, DSiWare, eShop).

Just saying.

 

[TheRickyWill]

Sorry, accidentally double-posted that.

 

[SuperSegaSonicSS]

Wayforward and Gaijin Games/Choice Provisions have delivered some of the highest-scoring original titles for their downloadable game services (Wiiware, DSiWare, eShop).

Just saying.

Sorry, accidentally double-posted that.

Her having good sales with Nintendo is something Nintendo would count for, yes. Which is a good thing for the sake of having good marketing for their consoles.

Sonic was just something I didn't think related well because he had other priorities in why he became a playable fighter in Smash.

 

[smashkirby]

You gotta keep in mind he was a last minute addition, he wasn't planned for Brawl, and that over assertive fan demand with the addition of Snake was why he got in, and well, he's a pure blown legend in gaming, despite his later years of games and of the Japanese audience. Sonic really, imo, only got in Smash 4 because of that Sega and Nintendo partnership they had during Smash 4's development, so they capitalized on that.

But really though, although Japan get's more referenced from moreso than the western audiences, that doesn't necessarily mean this applies to just anyone, the 3rd parties in this game has all had some significance in gaming's history, either with Nintendo by most sales on their consoles, or, being a long time rival which in a way, aided to Nintendo's benefit for marketing purposes.

Actually, you may want to check SourceGaming on that quote. Turns out Sonic really WAS planned from the very beginning of Brawl's development. Turns out SEGA wasn't too confident in the idea at first, so they turned down the idea of him being added in the game. Later on, they somehow changed their minds and allowed him to be playable. Matter of fact, he's the whole reason Brawl ended up being delayed at first. Not to mention, he was even planned for Melee, but time constraints resulted in him not getting added in time. Interestingly, Solid Snake had the EXACT same problem (time constraints) when it came to being added for Melee.

 

[SuperSegaSonicSS]

Actually, you may want to check SourceGaming on that quote. Turns out Sonic really WAS planned from the very beginning of Brawl's development. Turns out SEGA wasn't too confident in the idea at first, so they turned down the idea of him being added in the game. Later on, they somehow changed their minds and allowed him to be playable. Matter of fact, he's the whole reason Brawl ended up being delayed at first. Not to mention, he was even planned for Melee, but time constraints resulted in him not getting added in time. Interestingly, Solid Snake had the EXACT same problem (time constraints) when it came to being added for Melee.

Oh, he was?... I knew that Sonic was added late in Brawl's development, hence why it was delayed like you said, but was he really planned from the start? I thought that rumor about Sonic being planned for Melee was just a rumor, but that was true?... Geezus, I didn't know that at all...Sorry about that, thank you for the correction...

 

[TheRickyWill]

Her having good sales with Nintendo is something Nintendo would count for, yes. Which is a good thing for the sake of having good marketing for their consoles.

Sonic was just something I didn't think related well because he had other priorities in why he became a playable fighter in Smash.

It has pretty goods sales, but I'm talking a little more about scores in terms of the developer's original games.

Scores are from IGN and MetaCritic

Wayforward:
Mighty Flip Champs: 8.5/10
Mighty Milky Way: 81/100
Mighty Switch Force: 80/100
Mighty Switch Force 2: 73/10 (Mainly because both games are short)
LIT: 7.1/10
Shantae: 9/10
Shantae: Risky's Revenge: 9/10
Shantae & the Pirate's Curse: 8.5/10

Gaijin Games/Choice Provisions:

Bit. Trip
BEAT: 80/100
CORE: 80/100
VOID: 79/100
RUNNER: 76/100
FATE: 74/100
FLUX: 85/100
Runner 2: Future Legend of Rhythm Alien: 9/10
Lilt Line: 7.5/10
Woah, Dave!: 82/100

Both developers have quite the track record behind them, and definitely deserve to be rewarded. Well, I think Choice Provisions was already rewarded...

 

[BlitzUnleashed]

PAGE 100

Now imagine that was Shantae celebrating instead of Toad

EDIT: Page 101, and we're still standing. We should feel proud to come this far

 

[TheRickyWill]

If Shantae had a crossover with another Indie game/series what do you think a good one would be?

 

[BoltDragon]

I am here to support Shantae for super smash bros! Good luck with your campaign.

 

[TheRickyWill]

Hey, everybody! Guess what, Nintendo and 13AM games just revealed a new batch of Indie characters for Runbow!

...

What?! Shantae gets screwed over again?! Especially considering that even Inti Creates got Gunvolt in here. It's been revealed that Nintendo got 13AM hooked up with the other devs, and it's never been said that Wayforward has declined 13AM to put her in Runbow, especially considering that they promote other Kickstarter games on the Half-Genie Hero page and want Shantae to be in Smash Bros.

 

[Yellowlord]

Hey, everybody! Guess what, Nintendo and 13AM games just revealed a new batch of Indie characters for Runbow!

...

What?! Shantae gets screwed over again?! Especially considering that even Inti Creates got Gunvolt in here. It's been revealed that Nintendo got 13AM hooked up with the other devs, and it's never been said that Wayforward has declined 13AM to put her in Runbow, especially considering that they promote other Kickstarter games on the Half-Genie Hero page and want Shantae to be in Smash Bros.

This is suspicious to me. Perhaps Shantae is more important then I thought, to the point where they are saving her for something more Smashing?

 

[SuperSegaSonicSS]

I was going to post that above , but here's the video;

Honestly, the fact she's not in makes me think she may not be considered a true "indie" character afterall...

 

[Yellowlord]

I was going to post that above , but here's the video;

Honestly, the fact she's not in makes me think she may not be considered a true "indie" character afterall...

To be completely honest, perhaps that's a good sign. Her not being considered indie would increase her chances tremendously, up to the point where she would be recognized as a highly desired third party character next to other ones, like Rayman.

 

[TheRickyWill]

This is suspicious to me. Perhaps Shantae is more important then I thought, to the point where they are saving her for something more Smashing?

That's the scary part.

I was going to post that above , but here's the video;

Honestly, the fact she's not in makes me think she may not be considered a true "indie" character afterall...

>Pirate's Curse and Mighty Switch Force got on the Humble Nindie Bundle
>Had Pirate's Curse at the Indie showcase during a 2014 trade show

?

 

[SuperSegaSonicSS]

That's the scary part.



>Pirate's Curse and Mighty Switch Force got on the Humble Nindie Bundle
>Had Pirate's Curse at the Indie showcase during a 2014 trade show

?

I said, "true "indie" character". Meaning maybe she's considered more than just the standard "indie" character compared to the likes of Shovel Knight. She does have up to like 4-5 games, and as far as I know, most if not all the characters in this "Rainbow" game has like one game to their names.

 

[TheRickyWill]

I said, "true "indie" character". Meaning maybe she's considered more than just the standard "indie" character compared to the likes of Shovel Knight. She does have up to like 4-5 games, and as far as I know, most if not all the characters in this "Rainbow" game has like one game to their names.

Bit Trip has 6 games.

Steamworld has 2.

Stealth Inc has 2.

Mutant Mudds has 2.

 

[SuperSegaSonicSS]

Bit Trip has 6 games.

Steamworld has 2.

Stealth Inc has 2.

Mutant Mudds has 2.

Oh so that's where CommanderVideo comes from. He's the only one. 2 is still less than 4. I think Bittrip being reped might mean his popularity is lower then the likes of Shantae's, since she's had more gradual exposure. I don't mean to sound arrogant if that's what it seems like, but Shantae not showing up in this just makes me think she's more "important" then what others may think.

 

[TheRickyWill]

Oh so that's where CommanderVideo comes from. He's the only one. 2 is still less than 4. I think Bittrip being reped might mean his popularity is lower then the likes of Shantae's, since she's had more gradual exposure. I don't mean to sound arrogant if that's what it seems like, but Shantae not showing up in this just makes me think she's more "important" then what others may think.

Commander Video has also appeared in Super Meat Boy, Retro City Rampage, and 1001 spikes.

And I just noticed... Why the heck is The Drifter here?! Hyper Light Drifter isn't coming out on the Wii U until 2016!

 

[SuperSegaSonicSS]

The fact the leaks thread having Shantae not reped in this game makes her deconfirmed is honestly dumbfounding me. Don't you think out of all the characters to rep for a "indie" game, Shantae is coincidentally misplaced, while she clearly got supported by Nintendo prior that Tweet from Matt Bozon a while ago?

 

[TheRickyWill]

This just has me concerned.

and very paranoid.



Can someone ask Wayforward about it on Twitter?

 

[Wademan94]

I'm a little skeptic about all this too, I'm no conspiracy theorist, but I can tell that there is way too much involving or not involving Shantae here to all be just a massive coincidence

 

[B.H. and DD]

I really don't know what to make of it. I don't want to give myself false hope but maybe WayForward was given a choice between the two and they chose Smash. I mean... she's one of the most popular indies Nintendo has. It makes no sense for her to NOT be there unless she is getting in another crossover. Or maybe I'm over thinking like I always do...

 

[smashkirby]

If Shantae had a crossover with another Indie game/series what do you think a good one would be?

Funny you should mention that, I personally think Shovel Knight, or Cave Story.

 

[Wademan94]

Funny you should mention that, I personally think Shovel Knight, or Cave Story.

Careful, last time I suggested a crossover between Shantae and Shovel Knight, I was shot down instantly

 

[SuperSegaSonicSS]

Careful, last time I suggested a crossover between Shantae and Shovel Knight, I was shot down instantly

Didn't you ask that for a boss role for Shantae? If it's just as a crossplay game, like "Mario and Sonic" kind of thing, I wouldn't really mind.

 

[Yellowlord]

I really don't know what to make of it. I don't want to give myself false hope but maybe WayForward was given a choice between the two and they chose Smash. I mean... she's one of the most popular indies Nintendo has. It makes no sense for her to NOT be there unless she is getting in another crossover. Or maybe I'm over thinking like I always do...

I want to believe that being true. I do honestly have a feeling that might be correct.

 

[Wademan94]

Unrelated but maybe Shantae's balancing animation in Smash could take inspiration from this?

I've been watching some of Master0fHyrule's Smash animation compilations to see if I can get some ideas for Shantae's animations in Smash, like her entrance is her flying in on the magic carpets from Half-Genie Hero, her idle stance changing depending on her damage like in Pirate's Curse, her idle animations are of her straghting out her ponytail and her stance when she encounters a major enemy in Pirate's Curse, have the same crawling animation from her games, the same sleeping animation from the beginning of Pirate's Curse, SuperSpicy Curry animation resembling the idle animation Shantae has when she's carrying Rottytops through that section of Pirate's Curse, her Screen and Star KO would resemble the GBC animation of her getting knocked back from the explosion on Risky's ship (or when the mayor at the end asks if he can have her half-off since she's a half-genie), getting hit by Ryu's Focus Punch will have her mirror her animation from Risky's Revenge went Risky hits her with a cannonball after the first boss, (yes I have some time on my hands, why do you ask?) I was wondering if it'd be too far if her being grabbed animation involved looking like she's grabbed by her ponytail from behind, (thought it'd make sense considering she attacks with her hair) with her in an angry expression trying to get free with her hands trying to pulling her ponytail away?

 

[BlueTerrorist]

All this support even on the Miverse. My goodness...

Pfft! The day Shantae actually makes it into smash is the day I put all my current characters to the side, expand a meta, take her to a tournament and make top level players cry themselves to sleep as I conquer them with this character without any vaseline all while laughing like a crazed maniac at them.

 

[TheRickyWill]

All this support even on the Miverse. My goodness...

Pfft! The day Shantae actually makes it into smash is the day I put all my current characters to the side, expand a meta, take her to a tournament and make top level players cry themselves to sleep as I conquer them with this character without any vaseline all while laughing like a crazed maniac at them.

So when we go online, there's For Fun and then there's For Shantae, in our eyes.

 

[BlitzUnleashed]

I want to believe that being true. I do honestly have a feeling that might be correct.

Let's hope it's true. Matt really wants Shantae to be reckonized by many since many people never knew who she was back then. And I think putting her in Smash helps her a lot more.