The General Bandai-Namco Discussion Thread

[RetrogamerMax]

...Seriously? I don't mean to sound like I'm throwing a tantrum, but Chosen Undead's not even in the poll? You include a character called Niarobi that I've never even heard of, but not the main character of a game like Dark Souls with the legacy it has?

The character you mentioned is the prince from Katamari. And I'll add the Dark Souls character right now.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

Don-chan also deserves to be on that poll

And Yuri deserves more attention from people

 

[RetrogamerMax]

Don-chan also deserves to be on that poll

And Yuri deserves more attention from people

I just added Don-Chan to the list.

 

[Dr. Jojo Phantasma]

I think Velvet needs to be there too

 

[RetrogamerMax]

I think Velvet needs to be there too

I just added them to the list.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

there is honestly a truck load of Namco characters out there lol

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Still waiting on Haruka Amami tho

 

[RetrogamerMax]

Oh ****! I can't believe I forgot to put the arcade legends like the Pac-Man Ghosts, Galaga and Dig-Dug on the poll. I'll do that right now.

Still waiting on Haruka Amami tho

I just added them.

 

[Wunderwaft]

Heihachi would've been the dream had he not been mii'd. That moveset that FeliciaFan made is still one of the best interpretations of Tekken in Smash.

But besides Heihachi I think KOS-MOS would be cool as well to see in Smash.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

Heihachi would've been the dream had he not been mii'd. That moveset that FeliciaFan made is still one of the best interpretations of Tekken in Smash.

But besides Heihachi I think KOS-MOS would be cool as well to see in Smash.

: You stole my rhyme! Now how about you have a spell of mine!

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Tfw all three of my votes were female characters

ill take any of my 3 girls but prefer Kossy most (T-elos alt maybe? )

 

[Shovel Knight]

Got to toss my support to the Tales of reps. Here's hoping we get a second Namco rep in general though

 

[MattX20]

Don-chan also deserves to be on that poll

And Yuri deserves more attention from people

Isn't Yuri the character banned from most Tales polls because he kept winning?

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Needs some Agumon(though I dunno if any other Digimon should be added to the poll).

That said, glad to see the topic title fixed, since I did notice this also relates to the Bandai bit, due to being the same company now.

I'm ready to throw in my votes, but it doesn't have the one I just mentioned yet. There's a lot of great characters from Bandai-Namco, and sadly most of them are cameo-only appearances.

 

[chocolatejr9]

WAIT A MINUTE, WE FORGOT KLONOA! WE'VE DOOMED US ALL!!!!!!

 

[RetrogamerMax]

Isn't Yuri the character banned from most Tales polls because he kept winning?

Yes.

Needs some Agumon(though I dunno if any other Digimon should be added to the poll).

That said, glad to see the topic title fixed, since I did notice this also relates to the Bandai bit, due to being the same company now.

I'm ready to throw in my votes, but it doesn't have the one I just mentioned yet. There's a lot of great characters from Bandai-Namco, and sadly most of them are cameo-only appearances.

Added.

WAIT A MINUTE, WE FORGOT KLONOA! WE'VE DOOMED US ALL!!!!!!

Added.

 

[MattX20]

With all the options on the poll, it's pretty clear than Bandai Namco's got plenty of options to choose from, where as other companies like Capcom are down to about a handful by comparison

 

[RetrogamerMax]

With all the options on the poll, it's pretty clear than Bandai Namco's got plenty of options to choose from, where as other companies like Capcom are down to about a handful by comparison

True and not true. Capcom has plenty of chooses as well outside of protagonists from their games.

Besides Mega Man, Ryu, and Ken we got:

Jill Valentine
Leon Kennedy
Chun-Li
M. Bison
Akuma
Cammy
Guile
Dhalsim
Zangief
E. Honda
Vega
Balrog
Sagat
Zero
Proto Man
Dr. Wily
Vile
Sigma
Tron Bonne
Phoenix Wright
Dante
Amaterasu

Ect, ect.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

True and not true. Capcom has plenty of chooses as well outside of protagonists from their games.

Besides Mega Man, Ryu, and Ken we got:

Jill Valentine
Leon Kennedy
Chun-Li
M. Bison
Akuma
Cammy
Guile
Dhalsim
Zangief
E. Honda
Vega
Balrog
Sagat
Zero
Proto Man
Dr. Wily
Vile
Sigma
Tron Bonne
Phoenix Wright
Dante
Amaterasu

Ect, ect.

Which just goes to show how iconic Street Fighter II is alone~

Though I do like that Darkstalkers has two separate protagonists(Morrigan and Demetri) as well. Hilariously sometimes they're marked as antagonists in weird adaptions.

Anyway, I'm been hoping for something Digimon for a while. Considering a lot of transformations(the main Digivolution concept) would be difficult to program, I could understand Agumon being a base game character instead of DLC. On the other hand, they've taken a long time to make some characters, so he's hardly impossible. In a twist, there's not a ton of Bandai-created character options compared to Namco's. Though wasn't Boktai also a Bandai IP? Though to be fair, I think Bandai was often associated with some non-game stuff too?

 

[RetrogamerMax]

Which just goes to show how iconic Street Fighter II is alone~

Though I do like that Darkstalkers has two separate protagonists(Morrigan and Demetri) as well. Hilariously sometimes they're marked as antagonists in weird adaptions.

Anyway, I'm been hoping for something Digimon for a while. Considering a lot of transformations(the main Digivolution concept) would be difficult to program, I could understand Agumon being a base game character instead of DLC. On the other hand, they've taken a long time to make some characters, so he's hardly impossible. In a twist, there's not a ton of Bandai-created character options compared to Namco's. Though wasn't Boktai also a Bandai IP? Though to be fair, I think Bandai was often associated with some non-game stuff too?

Basically you could have a whole Fighter's Pass with nothing but Street Fighter 2 characters and barely anybody would complain. Street Fighter 2 has one of the most iconic video game casts right up there with Mario and Sonic's casts.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

True and not true. Capcom has plenty of chooses as well outside of protagonists from their games.

Besides Mega Man, Ryu, and Ken we got:

Jill Valentine
Leon Kennedy
Chun-Li
M. Bison
Akuma
Cammy
Guile
Dhalsim
Zangief
E. Honda
Vega
Balrog
Sagat
Zero
Proto Man
Dr. Wily
Vile
Sigma
Tron Bonne
Phoenix Wright
Dante
Amaterasu

Ect, ect.

Tfw no Viewtiful Joe

 

[RetrogamerMax]

Tfw no Viewtiful Joe

Well sorry. I did say ect, ect and I can't remember every Capcom character's name off the bat.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Tfw no Viewtiful Joe

I mean, that's why he said Ect, ect.

...Isn't it supposed to be Etc? XD

Anyway, neither company has a lack of options, really~

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Tfw no Viewtiful Joe

That’s what the “etc.” is for.

Capcom just has too many good characters to list at once lol

EDIT: Two people wrote the same thing as me at the same time? Are we a hive mind or something?

 

[MattX20]

True and not true. Capcom has plenty of chooses as well outside of protagonists from their games.

Besides Mega Man, Ryu, and Ken we got:

Jill Valentine
Leon Kennedy
Chun-Li
M. Bison
Akuma
Cammy
Guile
Dhalsim
Zangief
E. Honda
Vega
Balrog
Sagat
Zero
Proto Man
Dr. Wily
Vile
Sigma
Tron Bonne
Phoenix Wright
Dante
Amaterasu

Ect, ect.

I meant in regards to new franchises specifically, and a good chunk of the characters you listed are from franchises already in Smash. Darkstalkers, Ace Attorney, Okami, Viewtiful Joe, and Devil May Cry are still potentially viable.

Which just goes to show how iconic Street Fighter II is alone~

Though I do like that Darkstalkers has two separate protagonists(Morrigan and Demetri) as well. Hilariously sometimes they're marked as antagonists in weird adaptions.

Anyway, I'm been hoping for something Digimon for a while. Considering a lot of transformations(the main Digivolution concept) would be difficult to program, I could understand Agumon being a base game character instead of DLC. On the other hand, they've taken a long time to make some characters, so he's hardly impossible. In a twist, there's not a ton of Bandai-created character options compared to Namco's. Though wasn't Boktai also a Bandai IP? Though to be fair, I think Bandai was often associated with some non-game stuff too?

If they include Digivolutions, it would probably be for a Final Smash.

 

[The Stoopid Unikorn]

Darkstalkers, Ace Attorney, Okami, and Devil May Cry are still potentially viable.

Byleth, Sephiroth and arguably Plant show that Sakurai doesn’t mind taking reps from already established franchises, so it’s fair to look at those too.

Doesn’t mean it’ll absolutely happen again, but it’s a possibility we can’t rule out.

 

[MattX20]

Byleth, Sephiroth and arguably Plant show that Sakurai doesn’t mind taking reps from already established franchises.

Doesn’t mean it’ll absolutely happen again, but it’s a possibility we can’t rule out.

It's possible, but I feel it's less likely considering that Capcom wants to promote as many of their franchises as they can beyond Street Fighter, Megaman, Monster Hunter, and Resident Evil. Bandai Namco meanwhile has a TON of options to pick from and it's shocking they haven't gotten a second rep yet when all the other companies from Smash 4 got an additional rep since, plus Microsoft being the newest got two on top of that.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

As for square enix, I’m not so much feeling another FF rep, even if it isn’t from VII. Crono, while he’s on that rumored list, I can’t really see becoming playable. At this point if we got a 4th Square character I’m feeling either Neku from TWEWY or 2B from NieR Automata.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

I meant in regards to new franchises specifically, and a good chunk of the characters you listed are from franchises already in Smash. Darkstalkers, Ace Attorney, Okami, Viewtiful Joe, and Devil May Cry are still potentially viable.

Still, a lot of people would be happy with any of the characters on that list especially the Street Fighter 2 characters.

 

[MattX20]

As for square enix, I’m not so much feeling another FF rep, even if it isn’t from VII. Crono, while he’s on that rumored list, I can’t really see becoming playable. At this point if we got a 4th Square character I’m feeling either Neku from TWEWY or 2B from NieR Automata.

And that's if there's an additional wave of DLC beyond this pass as companies don't double dip in the same one.

 

[LiveStudioAudience]

At the next Smash Character Showcase:

Sakurai: Allow me to introduce to you our newest DLC character, its powered by Namco.

trailer plays

Sakurai: It's Ridge Racer.

beat

Sakurai: RIIIIIIDGE RACEEEERR

Points to the RR logo

Sakurai: Remember that one?

 

[RetrogamerMax]

It's possible, but I feel it's less likely considering that Capcom wants to promote as many of their franchises as they can beyond Street Fighter, Megaman, Monster Hunter, and Resident Evil. Bandai Namco meanwhile has a TON of options to pick from and it's shocking they haven't gotten a second rep yet when all the other companies from Smash 4 got an additional rep since, plus Microsoft being the newest got two on top of that.

Well the same thing could have been said for Square-Enix yet we got Sephiroth so...

As for square enix, I’m not so much feeling another FF rep, even if it isn’t from VII. Crono, while he’s on that rumored list, I can’t really see becoming playable. At this point if we got a 4th Square character I’m feeling either Neku from TWEWY or 2B from NieR Automata.

He is on that Seven Squares list, so I wouldn't completely rule him out just yet.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Well the same thing could have been said for Square-Enix yet we got Sephiroth so...



He is on that Seven Squares list, so I wouldn't completely rule him out just yet.

Being on the Seven Squares list only really worked out for Sephiroth and Hero (Luminary and Erdrick) being playable. Geno’s a costume, Sora was 100% denied thanks to Disney it seems (aka not even a spirit), and Slime appears in Hero’s taunt. I’m feeling either a spirit event or costume for Crono, more so the latter

 

[RetrogamerMax]

Being on the Seven Squares list only really worked out for Sephiroth and Hero (Luminary and Erdrick) being playable. Geno’s a costume, Sora was 100% denied thanks to Disney it seems (aka not even a spirit), and Slime appears in Hero’s taunt. I’m feeling either a spirit event or costume for Crono, more so the latter

Thing is, we don't know that yet. I agree that Crono could appear as a Mii costume or Spirit, but we don't know his fate yet.

 

[Perkilator]

Sora was 100% denied thanks to Disney it seems (aka not even a spirit)

This was just speculation. It hasn't been proven yet whatsoever.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

This was just speculation. It hasn't been proven yet whatsoever.

didn't someone on Era ask some insider "what does Sephiroth mean for Sora's chances" and they replied with "extremely bad... exclusionarily bad"?

i forgot who the insider was but im sure it was someone reputable...

 

[Perkilator]

didn't someone on Era ask some insider "what does Sephiroth mean for Sora's chances" and they replied with "extremely bad... exclusionarily bad"?

i forgot who the insider was but im sure it was someone reputable...

Probably just trying to **** on Sora supporters.

But this is a Bandai-Namco thread, so let's end it here.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

fair enough

anyway uhhhh

oh! would a God Eater rep count? pretty sure that started as a game... i never see anyone talking about God Eater

tbf i know about it because of Project X Zone but yeah

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

If they include Digivolutions, it would probably be for a Final Smash.

I doubt it'd only be for that. It's literally the core concept of what made Digimon stand out overall. Training in general is a general mon thing, but having the ability to go into multiple forms throughout battles is what really made the series so iconic. And not just one straight form like Pokemon originally went with(and Pokemon only slightly did split evolutions. Nor could you de-evolve, a concept unique to Digimon at the time).

Digivolution is basically an iconic part of the series. So is raising, but that's a very common concept that's harder to make work in Smash. Not that leveling up in battle is impossible(Lucario has something similar), but it's difficult to implement in a balanced manner.

The Final Smash only makes sense if we're talking about a Warp Evolution like WarGreymon, or a Warp DNA Evolution into Omnimon. Both are his most iconic Mega forms, and both work depending the direction they want to go in. It also helps that since he can de-digivolve easily, you can apply a somewhat Pokemon Trainer-esque moveset for switching out, or possibly he de-digivolves under certain conditions beyond being KO'd(which could put him into base form or the previous form, if we're using Greymon and MetalGreymon). Digimon also has introduced the ability to use cards to use other attacks, but that's something that would make more sense with a Tamer's related character, like Renamon or Guilmon.

Worth noting that the anime is significantly more popular than the games, which is also why Digivolution is seen as the most iconic thing.

(To note otherwise, Evolution and Digivolution are the literal same thing if you're aware of the Japanese names. Digivolution is a dub-only thing, but it is kept consistently throughout every anime, even the later movies who get rid of the "Digimon Digital Monsters! Digimon are the Champions!" theme song. Though to be fair, licensing is not easy anyway).

 

[Sophitia]

I'd prefer a Tekken or Soulcalibur rep, personally. Though I guess Sakurai has already stated having difficulty coming up with a moveset for Heihachi.