Social The Gates of Hell: Bayonetta Social Thread

[RespawningJesus]

Go check the Corrin board, and look at the thread "An entire thread in defense of Corrin". Someone there complained that Bayonetta was another swordfighter because, even though she doesn't use a single sword attack in Smash, she used swords in her source game, thus making her a swordfighter.

TL;DR: Yes. Yes, they would.

Well, that is what blind rage will do I guess.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I just beat Bayo 2! That was fun as ****! Though unlocked Jeanne is meh, I want to use Witch Time dammit!

 

[meleebrawler]

I just beat Bayo 2! That was fun as ****! Though unlocked Jeanne is meh, I want to use Witch Time dammit!

There is an accessory that replaces Witch Time with a strong projectile, maybe you could practice with that.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

There is an accessory that replaces Witch Time with a strong projectile, maybe you could practice with that.

I tried both characters and honestly, I prefer the idea of slowing down time. That, and spamming Bat Within would actually be possible

 

[Tobi_Whatever]

Alright, Wolfie557 .
Thank you all for the feedback! I think I may ask for the game for my birthday.
I can't wait to play the games.
The only problem now is to actually ask them for the game. They might just refuse to get me it based on rating and cover art alone.
Whatever the case may be, I WILL get my hands on a copy of Bayonetta 2 since I'll probably be missing out on something special if I don't.

Just use this

Spoiler

 

[Lakuto]

Go check the Corrin board, and look at the thread "An entire thread in defense of Corrin". Someone there complained that Bayonetta was another swordfighter because, even though she doesn't use a single sword attack in Smash, she used swords in her source game, thus making her a swordfighter.

TL;DR: Yes. Yes, they would.

Speaking of Corrin and swordfighter: isn't funny how there isn't any spearfighter up to this point? Especially when you think that there are plenty in Fire Emblem.

... Balder for smash though...

 

[blackghost]

Speaking of Corrin and swordfighter: isn't funny how there isn't any spearfighter up to this point? Especially when you think that there are plenty in Fire Emblem.
I'd want to see that just to see the salt happen again.
... Balder for smash though...

 

[Altais]

I found all these articles to be very fun reads. I dare say, Platinum Games is truly a phenomenal enterprise.

Gamespot.com | Inside Platinum Games: Japan's Most Unique Game Development Studio

Gamespot.com | Balancing IP Needs with Platinum Games' Transformers: Devastation

Gamespot.com | Breaking Limits with Star Fox Zero

[EDIT] If they do make a Bayonetta 3, I hope it's for the NX and not the Wii U. Also, if the NX proves more successful than the Wii U, I could see a lot of Wii U games being ported to the NX.

 

[Raven the Obsidian]

I like Takemikazuchi's power, but the slowness is too big of a sacrifice for me
I usually run Shuraba + Rakshasa, or Chernobog + Alruna.

Hah, that's funny; as we speak my A set is Shuraba + Rakshasa, and my B set is Chernobog + Alruna We have the same taste in weapons, it seems.

 

[Rynozilla]

Hah, that's funny; as we speak my A set is Shuraba + Rakshasa, and my B set is Chernobog + Alruna We have the same taste in weapons, it seems.

That's the spookiest thing to happen to me this year.
It's not even Halloween.... *Gasp* WITCHCRAFT!!

 

[RespawningJesus]

I found all these articles to be very fun reads. I dare say, Platinum Games is truly a phenomenal enterprise.

Gamespot.com | Inside Platinum Games: Japan's Most Unique Game Development Studio

Gamespot.com | Balancing IP Needs with Platinum Games' Transformers: Devastation

Gamespot.com | Breaking Limits with Star Fox Zero

[EDIT] If they do make a Bayonetta 3, I hope it's for the NX and not the Wii U. Also, if the NX proves more successful than the Wii U, I could see a lot of Wii U games being ported to the NX.

NX has no choice but to do better than the Wii U. And if we do get bayo 3, it most likely will be for the NX if Nintendo decides to foot the bill again. But that is not gonna happen for a little bit, since Platinum already has both Nier 2 and Scalebound to make.

 

[Altais]

NX has no choice but to do better than the Wii U. And if we do get bayo 3, it most likely will be for the NX if Nintendo decides to foot the bill again. But that is not gonna happen for a little bit, since Platinum already has both Nier 2 and Scalebound to make.

Agreed. If anything, I'm hoping the NX will be as powerful as the XBone and PS4--if nothing else, to attract third-party developers.

Also hoping Scalebound gets ported to the PS4. As of now, because of Scalebound and Tales of Zestiria, I am torn between buying a PS4 or XBone--reason being both consoles have a few exclusives I want to play. I'm not buying both.

 

[David Viran]

OK. I was going through bayo 1 on hard and noticed I missed the prologue so I went and did it. And that was absolutely the hardest chapter I've done so far. Why did gracious and glorious have to be the only opponents on the part you needed to do 3 torture attacks and they won't hit you unless you hit them first so you can't just try to react to everything to get gauge? And why do you lose almost all of your gauge for one hit? So many questions.

Edit: Happy new year.

 

[Giova]

Happy new year to all bayo fans!!!!

 

[Rynozilla]

Happy new year to all bayo fans!!!!

Your avatar made me laugh so hard I almost choked to death
HAPPY NEW YEAR

 

[RebelXII]

Happy new years ladies. 2016 is upon us.

now we wait until February.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Agreed. If anything, I'm hoping the NX will be as powerful as the XBone and PS4--if nothing else, to attract third-party developers.

Also hoping Scalebound gets ported to the PS4. As of now, because of Scalebound and Tales of Zestiria, I am torn between buying a PS4 or XBone--reason being both consoles have a few exclusives I want to play. I'm not buying both.

Didn't SE say they would consider FFXV on the NX?

 

[BJN39]

Happy new year Witches!

Now it feels like we're a lot closer to that release date timing.

 

[Altais]

Didn't SE say they would consider FFXV on the NX?

[Shrugs] All I know is that Square was planning for Dragon Quest X & XI to be for the NX, but since not enough is known yet about the NX, Square, for the time being, is keeping their hand of cards concealed. Source?

Gamespot.com | Nintendo NX's First Games Announced By Square Enix

DQX was released for the Wii, Wii U, 3DS, and PS4; and DQXI is currently in development for the 3DS and PS4. Since all these systems have different levels of power, it's hard to judge how powerful the NX will be from these facts alone. But I am digressing.

Though I've seen lots of speculation, I haven't heard anything about Final Fantasy XV coming to the NX, though there are rumours that the Final Fantasy VII remake could be coming to the NX. Until there's solid proof of this, though, for now it's best to carry a bucket of salt.

Rule of Acquisition #190: Hear all, trust nothing.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

The whip weapon is surprisingly fun. If Bayo had customs, I can easily see the other weapons being represented

 

[Wolfie557]

Because of examz and what not.. Jan will fly by for me but Feb will feel like a looooong wait before Bayonetta. I'm personally hoping Corrin & Bayonetta release in the first 2 weeks of the month - maybe straight after a Feb Direct!

Should there be a Bayo/All DLC tournament with people on this board? :D

 

[Cutie Gwen]

School and work always keep me busy, so timezones are a *****. I know I'm only an hour ahead of you though, Mr UK

Because of examz and what not.. Jan will fly by for me but Feb will feel like a looooong wait before Bayonetta. I'm personally hoping Corrin & Bayonetta release in the first 2 weeks of the month - maybe straight after a Feb Direct!

Should there be a Bayo/All DLC tournament with people on this board? :D

 

[Benmjy]

I'm hoping for a January Direct w/ a release date for DLC towards the end of January! Doesn't Nintendo usually do one in January anyway to detail releases through spring? I've really gotta pick up Bayo 2 again, I haven't been able to play since I've been so busy :'( Also Happy New Year to you all!

 

[Forze Dell'Oscurita]

I tried researching when the next direct would be and I couldn't find anything :/. I kept getting dates from past directs or games that have already been announced. Hopefully we'll hear something again soon. I'm hoping that she will be available at the beginning of February. An all Bayo tournament sounds fun when she is released! :D

I haven't bought Bayo 2 yet, but until then I'm going back through the first game and replacing all my stones with gold trophies.

Happy New Year to everybody!

 

[Raven the Obsidian]

The whip weapon is surprisingly fun. If Bayo had customs, I can easily see the other weapons being represented

Are you talking about Alruna? Alruna is amazing. I wasn't really a big fan of Kulshedra in Bayo 1, so it came as quite a surprise when I fell in love with Alruna in Bayo 2, lol! Its KKKK combo is just... hnnnng.

I'm hoping for a January Direct w/ a release date for DLC towards the end of January!

They said that Bayonetta and Corrin's release dates will be announced via the Smash 4 official website.

I tried researching when the next direct would be and I couldn't find anything :/.

Directs are usually only announced 2-3 days before they broadcast. It's kind of annoying, but it does raise a lot of hype very quickly when they do get announced!

Happy new year, Bayo fans~

 

[Rynozilla]

Okay, so.
I have to get this off my chest. [RANT ALERT WEEOOO WEEOOO]
The thing I loved about the enemies in the first Bayonetta is how, even on the harder difficulties when they attacked faster, the enemies still telegraphed their attacks kinda obviously.
It made the game fun, challenging, but not ridiculous like you're supposed to know to dodge when the enemy shrugs their shoulder
But when I played the demo for Bayo 2, the first thing I noticed, especially against Gomorrah, was "Wait what. THAT was an attack? I THOUGHT HE WAS JUST TURNING HIS HEAD".
And that's how it is with a lot, like, a LOT of enemies in Bayo 2. They little *shing* in their eyes before they attack no longer comes out on time, it's a bit late. And even then, their attacks themselves are kind of ridiculously timed. Okay, I'm done. But I'm not the only one who thinks this, right..?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Okay, so.
I have to get this off my chest. [RANT ALERT WEEOOO WEEOOO]
The thing I loved about the enemies in the first Bayonetta is how, even on the harder difficulties when they attacked faster, the enemies still telegraphed their attacks kinda obviously.
It made the game fun, challenging, but not ridiculous like you're supposed to know to dodge when the enemy shrugs their shoulder
But when I played the demo for Bayo 2, the first thing I noticed, especially against Gomorrah, was "Wait what. THAT was an attack? I THOUGHT HE WAS JUST TURNING HIS HEAD".
And that's how it is with a lot, like, a LOT of enemies in Bayo 2. They little *shing* in their eyes before they attack no longer comes out on time, it's a bit late. And even then, their attacks themselves are kind of ridiculously timed. Okay, I'm done. But I'm not the only one who thinks this, right..?

Can't you cancel almost every attack with a dodge roll in 2 though?

 

[Rynozilla]

Can't you cancel almost every attack with a dodge roll in 2 though?

You can do that in the first one too. But the problem is that the attacks in Bayo 2 are so fast, that by the time I think to dodge, I'm already hit.
Mind you, I'm not slow when it comes to reaction times. I just really hate how attacks are in Bayo 2, personally.

 

[CrimsonRick117]

Okay, so.
I have to get this off my chest. [RANT ALERT WEEOOO WEEOOO]
The thing I loved about the enemies in the first Bayonetta is how, even on the harder difficulties when they attacked faster, the enemies still telegraphed their attacks kinda obviously.
It made the game fun, challenging, but not ridiculous like you're supposed to know to dodge when the enemy shrugs their shoulder
But when I played the demo for Bayo 2, the first thing I noticed, especially against Gomorrah, was "Wait what. THAT was an attack? I THOUGHT HE WAS JUST TURNING HIS HEAD".
And that's how it is with a lot, like, a LOT of enemies in Bayo 2. They little *shing* in their eyes before they attack no longer comes out on time, it's a bit late. And even then, their attacks themselves are kind of ridiculously timed. Okay, I'm done. But I'm not the only one who thinks this, right..?

Admittedly When I first played Bayo 2 I noticed how hard it was to predict when the enemies attacked or were going to. Especially later in the game *Spoiler* when you get to Hell and face the demon enemy's ( I hate Sloth ) *End of Spoiler*, But that's all part of the learning experience and over time you start to memorize their attack patterns and it gets progressively easier.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

You can do that in the first one too. But the problem is that the attacks in Bayo 2 are so fast, that by the time I think to dodge, I'm already hit.
Mind you, I'm not slow when it comes to reaction times. I just really hate how attacks are in Bayo 2, personally.

personally didn't have much trouble. Then again, I activated Bat Within a LOT easier lategame...

Admittedly When I first played Bayo 2 I noticed how hard it was to predict when the enemies attacked or were going to. Especially later in the game *Spoiler* when you get to Hell and face the demon enemy's ( I hate Sloth ) *End of Spoiler*, But that's all part of the learning experience and over time you start to memorize their attack patterns and it gets progressively easier.

[ ] these are your spoiler brackets, and instead of end of spoiler, you type [/spoiler]

 

[CrimsonRick117]

personally didn't have much trouble. Then again, I activated Bat Within a LOT easier lategame...

[ ] these are your spoiler brackets, and instead of end of spoiler, you type [/spoiler]

Thanks for the heads up, I had no idea being i'm still sorta new to the smash boards.

 

[Altais]

In many ways, I actually found Bayonetta 2 to be easier than Bayonetta 1. [Shrugs] But perhaps that's because I just had experience from the first game. In Bayonetta 2, I did the first level on 2nd Climax, but played the rest of the game on 3rd Climax, getting mostly silver trophies.

Once I'm done with Xenoblade Chronicles X, I think I will try to get all-platinum rank in both Bayonetta games. I dare say, I thoroughly enjoyed both Bayonetta games. It was like The Wonderful 101, without having to look after a huge team.

I'm still hoping Kamiya considers developing the next Kid Icarus game. I think he would do an exceptional job. While I was playing both Bayonetta games, I couldn't help but think to mineself, "it would be really cool to have a Kid Icarus game very similar to this".

 

[David Viran]

In many ways, I actually found Bayonetta 2 to be easier than Bayonetta 1. [Shrugs] But perhaps that's because I just had experience from the first game. In Bayonetta 2, I did the first level on 2nd Climax, but played the rest of the game on 3rd Climax, getting mostly silver trophies.

I need to get bayo 2. I hear a lot of mixed reviews on the mechanics of the game. I know my first play through in bayo 1 was really bad. Mostly stone trophies. I'm going through a second time right now on hard and am doing waaay better. Getting a lot of gold and silvers. Prolly because I decided to boycott items this time around.

 

[Raven the Obsidian]

In many ways, I actually found Bayonetta 2 to be easier than Bayonetta 1. [Shrugs] But perhaps that's because I just had experience from the first game. In Bayonetta 2, I did the first level on 2nd Climax, but played the rest of the game on 3rd Climax, getting mostly silver trophies.

Once I'm done with Xenoblade Chronicles X, I think I will try to get all-platinum rank in both Bayonetta games. I dare say, I thoroughly enjoyed both Bayonetta games. It was like The Wonderful 101, without having to look after a huge team.

I'm still hoping Kamiya considers developing the next Kid Icarus game. I think he would do an exceptional job. While I was playing both Bayonetta games, I couldn't help but think to mineself, "it would be really cool to have a Kid Icarus game very similar to this".

Oh, dude, a Kid Icarus developed by Kamiya would be a real treat. There were parts of Bayo 2 that did give me a KI Uprising vibe. Hopefully the control scheme would be a bit better in a hypothetical KIU2 The lack of a second analogue stick for camera controls hurt KIU's control scheme, unfortunately. I can't believe you couldn't map a CPP to camera controls...

I know my first play through in bayo 1 was really bad. Mostly stone trophies. I'm going through a second time right now on hard and am doing waaay better. Getting a lot of gold and silvers. Prolly because I decided to boycott items this time around.

Lol yeah, I got almost exclusively Stones on Bayo 1, with exception of a couple surprise Golds on Iustitia and Sapientia. Meanwhile on my first run of Bayo 2, the lowest I got was Silver, with several Golds and even a Platinum on Chapter IV

 

[meleebrawler]

I need to get bayo 2. I hear a lot of mixed reviews on the mechanics of the game. I know my first play through in bayo 1 was really bad. Mostly stone trophies. I'm going through a second time right now on hard and am doing waaay better. Getting a lot of gold and silvers. Prolly because I decided to boycott items this time around.

This always kind of bugs me in these Platinum games. "Here's a whole bunch of helpful items, and ingredients to make more. Oh, but if you use any of them, you suck." Not quite as egregious in Bayo 2 where you simply miss out on an end-of-level bonus, unlike W101 where you're actively penalized for using any at all.

 

[Altais]

Oh, dude, a Kid Icarus developed by Kamiya would be a real treat. There were parts of Bayo 2 that did give me a KI Uprising vibe. Hopefully the control scheme would be a bit better in a hypothetical KIU2 The lack of a second analogue stick for camera controls hurt KIU's control scheme, unfortunately. I can't believe you couldn't map a CPP to camera controls...

I actually asked Kamiya if he would ever be interested in developing the next Kid Icarus. Unfortunately, though, I didn't get an answer. I can understand why he wouldn't answer, though, due to publicity, rumours, and insane fans. I guess the fact alone he didn't block me like he does most people at least means I didn't annoy him. That said, I'm hoping mine question DID stick in the back of his mind.

I've even wrote a basic storyline for the (possible) Kid Icarus sequel, and would love to share it with Kamiya. That said, however, he strikes me as the guy whom likes to do things his own way. [Shrugs] Not that I blame him.

 

[RebelXII]

The next direct would be aimed for February since Corrin and hopefully Bayonetta will be released then.

 

[deepseadiva]

I've even wrote a basic storyline for the (possible) Kid Icarus sequel, and would love to share it with Kamiya. That said, however, he strikes me as the guy whom likes to do things his own way. [Shrugs] Not that I blame him.

Not to squash your initiative, but high profile game developers get pitches from fans like this all the time. If they were to develop a new story, it would need to come from the original creators and would never be fan sourced.

 

[Zajice]

You can do that in the first one too. But the problem is that the attacks in Bayo 2 are so fast, that by the time I think to dodge, I'm already hit.
Mind you, I'm not slow when it comes to reaction times. I just really hate how attacks are in Bayo 2, personally.

The biggest difference for me is the sound cues. In Bayo 1, every enemy had very distinguishable noises depending on the attack. The most obvious example is the basic angels that make their weird growl followed by a "schwing" noise as they ready their swing. It made it so you could time your dodges even when the fights were extremely hectic and hard to keep up with visually. You could easily associate the sounds with their respective enemies and focus primarily on them. I find there to be much less of that in Bayo 2 (excluding the parts where the Bayo 1 enemies appear, obviously).

 

[Rynozilla]

DA TROOF

OMG YES THANK YOU, THAT'S EXACTLY HOW I FEEL <3