The Final Smash item Thread *UPDATE: PIT!*

[blake101101]

I wonder what Zelda's is?

 

[Zhilo]

Hmm, I have the feeling that you will only be able to use one final smash in a match, several more may spawn but you wont be able to pick them if you already performed it once before. And there will probably be a special option that increases this number of chances.

 

[BUnit]

But if more spawn, you should be able to pick them up after you already used it, just so your opponents cannot. =)

Just wondering what you guys think, does Giga Bowser = Easy Jigglypuff Rest KO?

 

[Zhilo]

well, that gigabowser is either impervious to damage, or knockback, so i doubt it. Besides, any jiggs that dares get close to it will probably be giga fortressed into oblivion.

 

[metaknight007]

does anybody else think that this item is a bit overpowered its like a hammer on steroids

 

[Solid_Snake_225]

Hi am very new to this site but so far it is really cool everyone is really friendly so thank you all.

I think that the final Smash is a really cool feature and I have to admit it is amazing that each character will have a unique ability for it instead of everyones being the same. I cant wait till we see everyones because all of them are impressive. I am really wanting to see Snake's. I think the best for him would be a Metal Gear pops up and fires missiles, nukes or machine gun

 

[Doggalina]

Lol nobody wants to play with items. You and Mic both are off your rocker if you think items are going to be in competitive Brawl. Id seriously bet like 5000$ items will be turned off in the official rules.

What?! Items are friggin' terrible!

Hmmm, let's see what somebody in the Smash Back Room (i.e. someone who is "elite") has to say:

when i made a topic in the broom about potentially using items in brawl, or at least giving them a small chance at first (just because i was curious/bored) the general concensus was no items, but potentially keeping the final smash attacks in the game

only time will tell, but i guarontee you teh final smash items will be given a chance

If exploding crates are off, a new niche tournament, item tournaments, could form. It could either have all the fair items, or each player can choose one item to be on in the item switch, so that the item is just one more element of strategy.

 

[Chromeless]

Personally, I hope the game offers a mode where the final smash can be gained by alternate means. That way you could have the equivilent of a super meter which would set specific conditions to be met in order to gain the final smash, allowing the game to be more or less fair.

I think something like that would solve most of our problems.

 

[Talendime]

Few guesses for me:

Yoshi: Bunch of yoshis stampede..

Zelda: All of the sages put their power together and do something.. magnificent. However, I still haven't played the newest Zelda installment so...

Wario: Bigger Wario Waft

Snake: Metal Gear (hopefully REX!!)

Donkey Kong: This is a tricky one.. Maybe his animal buddies come and kick people around.

 

[Baelen]

I bet DK's final smash makes him turn invincible and go ape s*** on everybody

Zelda: Uses the Triforce of Knowledge to put everyone on the stage over 50% to sleep for 8 seconds (best used if someone is trying to get back onto the stage). Or the sleep could last longer depending on how much damage each char. has; so if you have 5% damage and are trying to jump back onto the stage, it wont have much effect like if you had 85%.

Ganondorf: Ganon, or he pulls out the sword that he had on the victory screen in Melee

Snake: Busts out a Nikita or a Stinger and uses it like Samus's homing missles. It cannot be dropped, and has unlimited ammo. Lasts 11 seconds.

WW Link: Uses the wind waker to stir up winds that decrease the weight of all enemies by 50%

Isaac (from golden sun): Ragnarok or Oddysey, deals massive damage to one enemy

Sylux: Triangle Bomb, turns into his "morph ball" and slows down the game, except for him, allowing him to dash around the screen and plant the three bombs. Any enemies within the triangle after the third bomb receive 75% damage (because 175% would be ridiculous)

Fox: Slippy and Peppy fly around the stage, shooting random enemies (like an assist trophy)

Jiggs: Hyper Beam or Earth Power. Or "Mass Sing", which would work like the Zelda fs i described earlier.

Pit: Arrow Rain, fires an arrow into the sky that splits into 100 which fall to the battlefield. Think like the Power Drives of Galuda and Jack from Power Stone.

Lyn: Sol Katti, nuff said.

more to come....and I dont know a thing about Meta Knight, so i cant make a guess for him.

 

[DonkeySmasher]

i like your dk final smash

another option is that he claps like jungle beat and if someone is in his shockwave circle he charges and punches them to oblivion (kinda like links)

 

[Fawriel]

Oh, I really like your WW Link FS! Very original!

As for Jigglypuff... she can't use Hyper Beam, technically. That skill is reserved for fully evolved Pokemon. Hyper Voice is a very likely move... or, of course, the Big Sing!

 

[Baha]

This thing shouldn't be an Item

IT SHOULD BE A FREAKING SUPER BAR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >_< **** you Nintendo you had the power to make it perfect and you chose a freaking item.

I can't wait to see Snake's final smash though. I bet its going to be snake yelling at you so hard that your enemy will die (and your friend in real life too !)

 

[lanky_gunner]

mmm, this thread really should be back on the first page, considering Samus' Final smash today

 

[the grim lizard]

Agreed, but people would rather make 10 new threads instead.

The other FS thread was even on the first page when they made new ones...sheesh

 

[Kurosagi]

Rofl, so what's even better than a character that you NEED an item to use?

One that creates several more items after....

This is absolutely ridiculous.

 

[JesterBox]

So no items at tourneys = no final smash at tourneys = no Zamus at tourneys?

 

[lanky_gunner]

we don't know what will happen to items at tourneys. but if it means getting rid of a character, it wouldn't seem fair. unless there could be an alternate way to turn into Zamus

 

[the grim lizard]

People around here assume a lot. And you know what assuming makes you...you guessed it. And that's true for everyone who makes assumptions about this game.

 

[Stryks]

UPDATE...

Gotta love this final!!

 

[lanky_gunner]

love the final...yes
love the Zamus transformation...no

don't get me wrong, I love the fact of playing as Zamus, but how she transforms is what i don't like. it raises too many questions

 

[Stryks]

I agree colbus, it raises many questions, like can we still yuse her seperatly, can we start using zamus 1st, idk...

Still people are exagerating saying stuff like: OMG ZAMUS CNA ONYL B USD BYA FIANL TEH GAEM SUX!!1!one

 

[Toologist]

I love how Pit looks completely engulfed in the Zero Laser. If they disintegrate...omg. =D

 

[lanky_gunner]

I agree colbus, it raises many questions, like can we still yuse her seperatly, can we start using zamus 1st, idk...

Still people are exagerating saying stuff like: OMG ZAMUS CNA ONYL B USD BYA FIANL TEH GAEM SUX!!1!one

i just really want to know whether Zamus is an advantage or a disadvantage. cause i want to grab the smash ball, but if she sucks, then i don't want to transform. but if she rocks, then i want her from the start.

hoping there's a loophole to this equation

 

[Galeon]

Lol I could see it now. You turn into Zamus after finally getting your Smash Ball then bam, you suicide. Now you come back to the stage as Samus and lose any chance at going Zamus again.

That's worst case scenario of course.

 

[maxpower1227]

Cross posted from another thread. Concerning the whole "one FS per match" idea:

Ok, just a thought on Final Smashes in general...

The Final Smash is a secret skill that can be performed but once…and only after obtaining an item called the Smash Ball, which is a precious item, indeed.

Notice that this does NOT say "can be performed but once PER MATCH". I think it's far more realistic to assume that Sakurai means you can only perform a final smash one time for each time that you get a Smash Ball. In other words, once you pick up a Smash Ball, you only get to use the attack once, and don't get to do it again until you get ANOTHER Smash Ball.

Think about it. Say you play a stock 99 match (yes, I've actually done this ...), and you get a Smash Ball 3 minutes into the match. Do you really expect to have to play the entire rest of the match without one?

Or how about this scenario. You are in a 4 person FFA and you get the first Smash Ball. Now when the next one drops, is the game going to somehow prevent you from picking it up because you already had your "one Final Smash per match"? This just doesn't make sense at all. I think Sakurai's words are just being misinterpreted here and there is no "one Final Smash per character per match" limitation at all.

 

[GeneralGore]

So no items at tourneys = no final smash at tourneys = no Zamus at tourneys?

I think that Zamus will be a separate character, and Samus can become her only by using a Final Smash.

 

[Caael]

Lol I could see it now. You turn into Zamus after finally getting your Smash Ball then bam, you suicide. Now you come back to the stage as Samus and lose any chance at going Zamus again.

That's worst case scenario of course.

And as Samus, you pick up your own leg and think ' WTF?!'

 

[lanky_gunner]

i always expected it to be only used once by that fighter. so in a match of samus vs. mario, if mario grabs one, he can't do another for the rest of the match, but samus can still use one.

but maybe you're right. i hope so, cause it would be neat to do numerous times in a match

 

[maxpower1227]

After thinking about it, I almost guarantee that Sakurai means it can only be used once per Smash Ball. Once per match is just stupid when you can have a match that lasts 2 minutes, or one that lasts 30 minutes.

 

[Caael]

i always expected it to be only used once by that fighter. so in a match of samus vs. mario, if mario grabs one, he can't do another for the rest of the match, but samus can still use one.

but maybe you're right. i hope so, cause it would be neat to do numerous times in a match

Well Zamus would be able to, because she's a different character, so i'm assuming she has a bacon that turns her back.

Lulz, imagine if she had to pick her armour up to go back to Samus. How annoying would that be, with one piece left, and some loser goes and fuzzes it off the edge.

 

[Stryks]

Well Zamus would be able to, because she's a different character, so i'm assuming she has a bacon that turns her back.

Lulz, imagine if she had to pick her armour up to go back to Samus. How annoying would that be, with one piece left, and some loser goes and fuzzes it off the edge.

For the new guys, when he says bacon he means Final, why bacon? dont ask...

 

[kin3tic-c4jun-3]

Think about this people:

1) Smash Balls are listed under TECHNIQUES - not items. It may not be an item, and may require a special circumstance to appear.

2) ONCE per match!? That assumtion is rediculous considering people will usually have 4 - 10 lives, and multiple KO's happen during a match. Having one single opportunity to simply inflict damage is not even cool.

But - no one knows I guess.

 

[Stryks]

Kinetic cajun:
"The Final Smash is a secret skill that can be performed but once…and only after obtaining an item called the Smash Ball, which is a precious item, indeed."

Taken from the site, it doesn say once per MATCH, ir says it can be performed but once, this could mean a lot of things:

Once per match
One smash ball will apepar only
One final smash per smash ball

Also the FINAL SMASH is on the technique list, no the SMASH BALL, because whats a final smash? its a over-powered attack, in other words A TECHNIQUE, the SMASH BALL triggers the FINAL SMASH, and it says there: "which is a precious item, indeed."

 

[lanky_gunner]

i do hope for one final smash per smash ball. i hate the fact of only using it once per match, cause i like 99 stock matches will items full on out. wouldn't be any fun to only use it once

 

[chaos_Leader]

After thinking about it, I almost guarantee that Sakurai means it can only be used once per Smash Ball. Once per match is just stupid when you can have a match that lasts 2 minutes, or one that lasts 30 minutes.

I am in full agreement with you on this issue. Once per Smash ball is far more logical than once per match. Remember, the guy doesn't speak, or type perfect English, Sometimes somethings get lost in the translation, sometimes things are misinterpreted, such as Sakurai's smash ball description. I am also curious to see the final smashes of some of the other characters.

 

[Drik Khaail]

Its kind of interesting, when you think about it, that each character will have their own freakin awesome, personalized, super special awesome attack. But, will clones like say, Luigi have their B.A.C.O.N be modelled right after the original, so in Luigis case, would it be one big green fire related finale? perhaps it will still be different. we can only wait to find out...

EDIT:but when ya think about it, it would be kind of fun to set everything off except the smash balls, and have one big A 4 player free for all match, and the only attacks can be B.A.C.O.Ns, not serious, just for the heck of it.

 

[maxpower1227]

EDIT:but when ya think about it, it would be kind of fun to set everything off except the smash balls, and have one big A 4 player free for all match, and the only attacks can be B.A.C.O.Ns, not serious, just for the heck of it.

That is a good idea. I shall try it sometime.

Personally, the first thing I do with Brawl is going to be a FFA with nothing but banana peels and bumpers. Much hilarity will ensue I'm sure.

 

[Dotcom]

This is good and all.
But thinking. On the sense that most people will want to use ZSamus because I guess you could say it's a "new" character.
I'm wondering if they will make her in terms crappy, because it only happens after Samus does the final smash.

P.S.
I've been seing a WHOLE lot of Snake Fanboyism lately.

 

[PyrasTerran]

I'm starting to wonder that myself.

What about people who would want to use exclusively Zero-Suit Samus?

Would you have the option of doing so, somewhat like choosing between Zelda and Shiek before the match starts? Or would there be an option ingame to discard the armor prematurely?

If there isn't such a case, then people who want to exclusively play either Samus or Zero-Suit Samus now have a crutch to worry about. What's going to happen in item-less matches??