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The Final Five DLC Characters

MangoTwist

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Predictions:

Based off Rex being too recent to be in the base roster or as DLC, it is likely that all DLC characters were decided before Rex was well known. Likely in 2016.

I therefore assume DLC were planned long ago. So, if you knew who your DLC fighters are going to be, it wouldnt make much sense to include them in the base game in another form.

No one seen as a spirit or AT is DLC. Sorry, Geno, Shantae, Skull Kid, etc. (And Geno believers - yes he was just seen as a Smash tag. But he's likely only selectable as a Smash tag because he's a spirit)

With that out of the way, I will now eliminate characters who were not as popular in 2015/2016, during the Ballot. This means Crash, Doomguy, Solaire, etc., who have all just seen a massive spurt in popularity only recently with Nintendo players, are likely out.

Additionally, I strongly doubt any future characters, such as a FE Three Houses or Pokemon Gen 8 rep, will be in the DLC, for the same reason why Rex couldnt make it in - DLC was planned long ago.

This leaves me to guess the following few are the most likely...

Banjo-Kazooie

Steve

Sora

Lloyd

Elma (if she survives the Spirit purge)
- There is a suspicious lack of XC X music in the game (we were able to see all Xenoblade music during the direct)

Bandana Dee (if he survives the Spirit purge) - my gut still feels this wouldnt be hypeworthy enough to be paid DLC though; this is admittedly the least reasoned out statement in this post.

And of course, there is always the likely possibility Sakurai surprises us all with his next character pick. He's more than capable of that as we've learned with every game in the series.
 
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Heatswave

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Sora or Geno (SE rep) - because Vergeben
Banjo or Steve (Microsoft rep) - because Vergeben
Bandana Dee - wishful thinking
Dixie Kong - wishful thinking
Llloyd Irving - wishful thinking

Yeah, 3 out of 5 are just what I'd like to see, the first 2 are the only ones with some merit behind them.
After the Piranha everything's possible I guess...
 

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from 1 to 5 (in order of likeliness) my personal 5 that I want to see are:

1. Banjo
2. Bandana Dee
3. Geno
4. Dixie
5. Shantae
 

Impa4Smash

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Who I think, not who I necessarily want (though I do like some of them):

1) Sora - Because Vergeben says SE Rep, and because other leakers have backed him

2) Steve - Also Vergeben, Minecraft wasn’t in base, so character seems likely now

3) Banjo-Kazooie - I don’t think 2 Microsoft reps is crazy based on their buddy buddy relationship. They’ve been getting promoted lately, even in Minecraft on the Switch

4) Rayman - Because of Ubisoft’s relationship with Nintendo now. Just seems like they deserve a rep, and Rayman seems like the obvious choice

5) Doomguy - Since Bethesda has been in talks with Nintendo about Smash, and Doom is their big classic IP
 

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So glad more and more lists on here are repping the boy Lloyd, I honestly feel now more than ever this is his best chance. My list is
1.Lloyd Irving
2.Monster hunter
3.Geno
4.Banjo
5. Toss up, BWD, heihachi, sora, or some random pick like noctis or something
 

greenluigiman2

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Who I expect:
Steve: Gonna trust Vergeben and Hitagi on this one. We haven't seen Minecraft content yet, but I think Steve coming with a stage and songs looks very likely.
Katalina: Trusting Hitagi where she is concerned.
Solo Pyra: While Rex is out, Sakurai can always take liberties and have Pyra fight on her own.
I'm going to put four characters now, two under the circumstance where spirits have no influence over the roster, and two where they do. First in the case they don't:
Geno and Shantae: Both characters have a lot of fan demand to be included, and Sakurai already knows that, so chances are he may give fans a bone.
And now, in the case spirits do cancel a character's chances:
Rayman and Sora/Neku/Noctis: Not much to say here. Other than, yeah, I expect them to go overboard with guest characters, it's just what I have in mind with how DLC has been handled in Sm4sh and other fighting games.

Who I want:
Geno: I think he's long overdue to join the roster. He needs this chance.
Heihachi or any of the three Mishimas: While Heihachi gets doubts now, because of his second VA's passing, I do think there needs to be a Tekken character in Smash.
Terry Bogard or Athena Asamiya: Would love to have Street Fighter, Tekken and King of Fighters all in the same game.
Monster Hunter: It's quite odd for me to just not see a Hunter, yet Rathalos in. Plus, think of all the armour variations they could use.
Soma Cruz: Finished Aria of Sorrow a few weeks ago and I loved it, so now I want Soma in the game to contrast from Simon and Richter, with him representing the Metroidvania side of Castlevania, while the Belmonts represent the classic/platformer side of the franchise.
Where did Hitagi say something about Katalina?
 

Rayleigh

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Well, when it comes to determining what can or cannot be a character, let's look at what we know based on what each game gave us:

(Because of the length, I'll be put this all into a spoiler for a cleaner, healthier thread)

The Original Smash Roster featured:

- Nintendo's All-Stars...and Jigglypuff.
- Characters who are not specific individuals (Pikachu, Jigglypuff...No, its not Ash's Pikachu and No, it's not the Jigglypuff from the anime).

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Melee Introduced us to:

- Characters who were villains (Bowser, Ganondorf...Donkey Kong the Third is not a villain.)
- Characters who were based on another character (Falco, Pichu, Ganondorf, Dr. Mario, Young Link)
- Alternate versions of the same character (Dr. Mario, Young Link)
- Characters from 'one-off' or 'dead' franchises (Ice Climbers)
- Characters based on Non-video game electronic games of a Nintendo Origin (Game & Watch...yes, he later got gameboy ports and enhanced remakes)
- Characters whose fighting style can change (Zelda/Sheik)
- Characters not known outside of Japan (Marth, Roy)
- Characters not yet seen in their own game (Roy).

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Brawl:

- Introduced us to third-party characters (Snake, Sonic).
- Introduced us to characters based on video game peripherals of a Nintendo Origin (R.O.B.)
- Refined the 'Alternate Form' concept (Zero Suit Samus, Toon Link.)
- Refined characters whose fighting style can change (Zelda/Sheik, Pokemon Trainer.)
- Altered some characters based on a prior character (Falco and introducing Wolf.)

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Smash 4:

- Removed elements of combat style change (Blame the 3DS, I guess?).
- Like, ten fire emblem characters from basically the same game.
- Introduced us to the concept of characters who were developed before their reveal in their main series (Greninja was worked on before X and Y came out, designed based on concept art).
- Introduced us to the prospect of DLC (The returning vets, Ryu, Cloud, Bayonetta).
- Introduced us to the prospect of DLC characters being Third-Party (Ryu, Cloud, Bayonetta).
- Introduced us to the prospect of a character without a prior appearance on a Nintendo Console (Cloud).
- Introduced Avatar characters (Mii Fighters. Technically Robin and Corrin but you can't truly customize them.)
- Introduced us to the-unnamed Echo Fighters (Lucina, Dark Pit.)
- Introduced us to Palette-Swap characters (Alph, Koopalings).

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Smash Ultimate:

...Has introduced nothing new. Yeah. Really. All of the characters returning or revealed can be matched to any of the above.

Yes. Even Piranha Plant. Its no different from Pikachu in this regard. Pikachu is a species, not an individual. Pikachu is also an individual of the species, but the Pikachu in Smash is not any known individual within the franchise outside of being 'The Smash Pikachu'. Likewise, Pirahna Plant is not any known Piranha Plant...it is simply the Smash Piranha Plant.

Looking at the above, the circumstances point to only one thing:

"A character entering Smash, unless proven otherwise in the future, must feature an origin pertinent to video games. If they are not from a video game proper, then they are from Nintendo's history in the field of video games itself."

So...what we know at this point is that any video game character can appear so long as they are from a video game or, if not, are related expressly to Nintendo's video game history. We don't know if a Spirit (which there are some based on already playable fighters), Mii Costume (of which some are based on playable fighters), or Assist Trophy rules anyone out as we have no evidence for or against such notions...So...uh...the options are too vast to pinpoint exact characters without making it look like a wishlist.

But, with the current Nintendo President stating that they want more First-Party games and more DLC, and the Nintendo Switch still early on in its Life Cycle, and know that Smash Ultimate will be picked up and played for a long period of time, this means that:

1. It is possible that we will get more than five DLC characters, and that this is just the beginning of what they may want. Think of it as Season Pass One.
2. These characters may be relevant to upcoming First and Third Party games. They do not have to come out before their own game releases worldwide (Corrin).
3. A DLC character cannot be an echo...unless, potentially, they are an echo of the main DLC character? (Unknown.)
4. There is the potential for communal votes.

and, to repeat:

5. "A character entering Smash, unless proven otherwise in the future, must feature an origin pertinent to video games. If they are not from a video game proper, then they are from Nintendo's history in the field of video games itself. Also they should be fun...that's- like, the whole point of the series, yo."

So, you survived my late night mental thesis? That makes one of us, so...here are my generalities for the upcoming DLC, largely in no particular order:

1. Piranha Plant (It's a Limited Time Free DLC deal until early 2019)
2. Metroid Prime 4 Representative.
3. Fire Emblem: Three Houses Representative.
4. Third Party Character
5. Third Party Character
6. Upcoming First-Party Character. (I, uh...don't really know what's coming out 2019...)
7. Ray-01 or Ray MKlll...you all saw that coming.

If we're to receive a Season Two (or more) for DLC fighters, we could possibly get some sort of Ballot that may or may not actually mean anything. If we did, I could see the Season Two involving one or two fan picks, with the other three being up-coming, third parties, or something entirely random.
 
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greenluigiman2

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1. Steve
2. Sora/Geno/DQ character
3. Elma
4. Chorus Kids/Rhythm Heaven character
5. Retro character
HM: Namco character
 

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Well, seeing all the characters that lost their oportunity being Assist Trophies, i'd like to talk about thr ATs that appeared in the 2 previous games, and were cut for SSBU, i'm talking about Infantry&tanks, Lakitu, Saki Amamiya and Kat&Ana; i think Sakurai decided to cut the pixel ATs, and Tingle is actually a stage Hazard in Great Bay, so, i have a little hope for Saki and Kat&Ana being promoted to playable characters
Based on this, and the popularity of certain characters. I think my 5 dlc list would be like this:

1) Banjo
2)Geno
3)Saki Amamiya
4)Kat & Ana
5) Rayman
 

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I genuinely think we'll get 2-3 third parties with DLC. I've got multiple guesses and it depends on which route is taken and what is done. We have to remember that Sakurai said DLC was decided alongside the roster. I'm going to assume this is the only 'wave' we'll get, but if not, that'd be awesome and I'd be excited to see what Sakurai chooses to do and bring us.

I'm picking 5 for: Highly Likely, Likely, Not Likely but possible.

Highly Likely:
-Geno (Highly requested, Sakurai wants him in, easy choice.)
-Sora (SquEnix is rumored to have a new rep via DLC, Sora is win-win for all parties involved.)
-Bandana Waddle Dee (Extremely popular among both Eastern and Western regions.)
-Dixie Kong (Completes the four icons of the Donkey Kong Country games and would do her more justice than Echoing Diddy.)
-Tails (Odd that Sonic didn't get an Echo despite being the most iconic third party barring Pac-Man represented and Simon/Ryu receiving an Echo before him. Tails is the second mascot to Sonic the Hedgehog tbh, and would bring a lot of revenue for both Nintendo and Sega.)

Likely:
-Banjo & Kazooie (Highly demanded since Melee days and with Microsoft and Nintendo being all buddy-buddy, I find it likely.)
-Chorus Kids (Cut from Sm4sh but originates from one of Nintendo's very popular series and would be extremely popular with the Eastern side of the world.)
-Elma (Rex/Pyra are out of the question and seeing the success of the series makes Elma a likely candidate for DLC.)
-Rayman (Ubisoft would be crazy to not want Rayman playable, and I could definitely see Sakurai choosing him due to demand and the hype it would generate.)
-Steve (This is only likely due to Vergeben being 100% accurate with Ultimate thus far. If Minecraft content in some form is in, it's likely Steve as DLC at this point.)

Not Likely, but possible:
-Isaac (Only if Assists can be promoted to playable in the same game. Same goes for Skull Kid.)
-Skull Kid (DLC/Roster was decided when Majora's Mask on 3DS was released and it would quell the want for a new LoZ rep.)
-Gen 3 Pokemon (Tbh seems like a possibility considering we got Piranha Plant which brings the Mario characters to 9 not including Wario and Yoshi. With OR/AS being the new games at the time, I could see Sakurai wanting to go for one but ultimately going with Incineroar for base roster.)
-Dragonborn/Doomguy (Bethesda is playing ball now, and these two are absolute icons and would be ****ing hype as hell. Not as likely as others imo though.)
-Fire Emblem: Fates Character (For the lulzzz)
 

Bobthealligator

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Only one I really need:

Character: Dovahkiin
Stage: High Hrothgar (with Alduin appearing as a stage boss)
Music: Main themes of Skyrim, Oblivion, and Morrowind, and 'Sovngarde' and 'Watch the Skies' from Skyrim.

I hope for Tails, but that seems unlikely.

In terms of predictions...Sora, Banjo/Kazooie, and Steve are all looking likely. If promotions happen, I'd expect Waluigi to be first in line there.

...here's hoping that they end up making a Season 2 of DLC as well! More characters are always better!
Ok I think we know that while development hasn't started, the character's have been planned and negotiations have happened already. And since Bethesda have met with Nintendo about Smash, either Dohvakiin or Doomguy are a lock. Well if the Grinch leak is fake, Ken's pose on the mural is confusing me to no end, as are Isaac and Shadow being assist trophies.
Though as they've already said DLC may only stop in 2020, I doubt we'll get season 2.
 
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Oniric Spriter

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Tbh it could be anyone but ATs at this point but my money goes to:
-Rex & Pyra
-SE rep? maybe a slime? 2B? Sora? 2B would be amazing may I add.
-Bandana dee, I only added him because he has no competition at all.
-Banjo? Rayman? Crash?
-Elma?

Sakurai specifically mentioned that they couldn't add characters that were introduced after the base roster's project planning, and all of the above but Rex/2B have been around for a very long time, meaning that if he was planning on adding them why didn't he do so already.
 
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Predictions
1. Elma (There's a lack of XBX content in Gaur Plains apparently. This would set up perfectly for a Mira stage)
2. Rex and Pyra/Mythra (I don't think being a Mii costume rules out opportunities. Best case scenario they pick a different character from XB2 like Morag.)
3. Waddle Dee (Not Bandana Dee. WD have an amiibo and probably have more moveset potential. Also Piranha Plant)
4. Byleth/Edelgard (Sakurai would put a new FE character and you know this)
5. Rayman or Ryu Hayabusa (Their parent companies have content as NPCs. Rabbid Peach for Ubisoft, and Fatal Frame for TK)
 

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Bandana Dee
Banjo-Kazooie
Tap Trial Girl
Elma
Sora

In no particular order I think this is a likely outcome.

I really don't think spirits or AT's are gonna be fighters since DLC was planned from the start.

Bandana Dee is the most requested first party not in the game in any form yet, he could easily have a stage from a newer Kirby title and a plethora of music.

Banjo-Kazooie probably did extremely well on the ballot and hey Nintendo and Microsoft are much closer now, I can see them being held off for DLC as they would be a big selling point.

Tap Trial Girl is an interesting one but I feel confident, Rhythm Heaven is still unrepresented and she is the only major character which hasn't appeared as a spirit. I feel this is a sign that she may be the character represented.

Elma makes sense to me, we don't have any music from X and that could easily be added through DLC and plus Rex and Pyra are out of the question now.

I am starting to trust Vergeben now, a SE rep seems likely and since Geno is a spirit I think Sora makes sense as a huge selling point. Kingdom Hearts is very popular and I do believe Sakurai would go through the effort for him to be included in the game. If Sora can't happen due to Square Enix being annoying, Rayman would be my other choice.
 
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Edited to add what their stages might be as well

Based purely on the fact that I believe that all five will be released separately, I think it'll be like this:

1) Banjo
I think Microsoft is down to clown with Nintendo on Smash, but they'll want a cut. I'm almost certain that they will show up in Ultimate, but it'd be easier to segregate the funds this way, purely by having a share of the DLC profits.

As for the stage, most people think Spiral Mountain, but as cool as that place is, I think it's less likely than somewhere like Mumbo's Mountain/Treasure Trove Cove/Grunty's Lair. Those three locations have a bit more personality to them. Personally I'd probably pick TTC. I have a concept for it in my head, even though my submission for the B-K round of the Stage Contest was Click Clock Wood.


2) Ray Man
I'm basically taking Rabbid Peach's Spirit inclusion as a soft confirmation, here. Ubisoft has been very friendly lately with Nintendo and I think they know there's enough interest for this to be a thing. Also, similar reasons as above. Since there isn't an already existing Ubisoft character in the game, it makes more sense to throw them in as DLC.

I'll be real with you- I only played Rayman Legends. None of the others. As such, I'd probably pick one of those Greek worlds.


3) Edelgard (Fire Emblem Three Houses)
I understand that Sakurai is wary at this point of adding additional Fire Emblem characters, so to appease people who would rather not have extras, he's making one of them an optional DLC character instead, so only the people who'd want her will download her. Even if you get the fighter pass, you don't have to download them. I believe Three Houses is going to do gangbusters and Nintendo probably does too. I also doubt that all five DLC characters will be 3rd Party, and this is one that makes sense from a 1st party perspective. I believe Rex/Pyra will be in the next game rather than DLC for this one, since he is trying to appease fans with the mii costume for Rex.

Don't know enough about this game to pick a stage.


4) Sub-Zero
Okay, this is partially wish fulfillment. But now that he's cool with adding fighting game characters, let's add one of the most gaming-significant series of all time into the game. As far as total gaming landscape goes, Mortal Kombat is MUCH more influential and well known than Street Fighter, and especially Tekken, has ever been. Hell, it's the reason we have a game rating scale to begin with. And despite not being the main character, Sub-Zero is definitely one of the most well known, alongside Scorpion (Who is probably a little too mature for Smash though would still be a ton of fun). But also Ice Climbers/Lucas are bad at being ice-based characters and Sub-Zero can fix that.

Lin Kuei Palace/Temple. That would be awesome. It's kind of Sub Zero's home and it'd be a good addition for Smash.


5) Hades (Kid Icarus)
Sakurai bias is OP, and Hades is certainly an EPIC character to finish this bout of DLC with. He'd be amazing as a final entrant into this Ultimate Smash Bros.

The Underworld, obvi. We haven't had one so that makes sense. Maybe like where Pit fights Medusa in Uprising
 
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I don't think being a spirit eliminates a character from a DLC spot here is my prediction :

Shantae my girl
Geno
Scorpion ( Mortal Kombat )
Rayman
Crash Bandicoot
 
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I'm also going to try to guess the stages just for the fun of it!
  1. Sora (The World That Never Was)
  2. Steve (Minecraft)
  3. Rayman (The Snoring Tree)
  4. Elma (Primordia)
  5. Bandana Waddle Dee (Waddle Dee Train Tracks)
There is no reason to doubt Vergeben at this point so a Square rep and Minecraft content are both definitely happening. I'm leaning towards Sora for the Square rep here because I'm going to assume Spirits don't have a chance for now, but we'll only know for sure once we compile the full list at launch. Steve is much more likely than Banjo because if Banjo was in we'd be hearing about a Spiral Mountain stage or something instead of Minecraft content, but both could theoretically happen. Rayman just makes sense to me given Nintendo's relationship with Ubisoft and how he was a trophy in Smash 4. Elma being DLC would explain why the only known X content is a Skell Spirit, as a stage and music would be packaged with her presumed DLC arrival. It's also worth noting that Sawano's mysterious recording session and Sakurai's mech rifle are two loose ends that still have yet to be answered. Bandana Dee is just a strangely absent character who probably would've shown up as an AT, Spirit, or cameo in Dedede's Final Smash if he wasn't playable.

Some other characters I could see slipping in there would be Chorus Kids, a Namco rep like Lloyd or KOS-MOS, and a Dragon Quest character (either Eight, Erdrick, or Slime), but I personally don't think they're as likely as the other 5.
 

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Hmm, if it were up to me to pick the 5 DLC characters...

1. Travis Touchdown (No More Heroes)
Stage - Santa Destroy Stadium
Music - No More Heroes Theme and Philistine

2. Rayman
Stage - Snoring Tree
Music - Rayman Origins Theme and The Precipice

3. Geno
Stage - Exor
Music - Forest's Mushrooms and Barrel Volcano

4. Golden Sun Protagonist (Issac, Felix, Matthew)
Stage - Venus Lighthouse
Music - Issac Battle Theme and Saturos Boss Theme

5. Resident Evil Protagonist (Leon S. Kennedy preferred)
Stage - Umbrella HQ
Music - (Oof, music was never the series staple, but anything from RE4)

But since the DLC has already been decided on WAY in advance, it's hard to say what will be picked cause we got a damn plant as a character, so your guess is as good as mine.
 

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1. Bandana Waddle Dee: Besides Sakurai bias, he has been one of the recurring playable characters in the Kirby games over the years. He would have a neat move set with his weapon

2. A Bamco rep: Either Heihachi or Lloyd. I'm betting on Heihachi.

3. Rayman: Nintendo's involvement with Unisoft on Starlink and Mario Rabbids has been pretty positive. I saw Rabbid Peach as a Spirit so there's always the small chance that Rayman could be happening this time.

4. Banjo-Kazooie: Rare has been putting out a good amount of content for Banjo & Kazooie's 20th Anniversary, Phil Spencer shenanigans, rumors of Banjo-Kazooie on the N64 Mini, and the off chance of Sakurai going to back to his old list of wanted characters for Smash. B-K in Ultimate would be an amazing anniversary present and a good start towards reviving their future.

5. A Square-Enix rep: Either Geno or Sora. Any one of them could happen at this point. But I have been leaning more towards Sora now.


Other Mentions:
1. A FE rep: I don't want it but I won't be surprised if it happens.

2. A Sega rep: Tails or Eggman (personal pick would be NiGHTS but lol never happening)

3. Doomguy/Doomslayer: Bethesda mentioned that they are really opened to having their IP's or content crossover with Nintendo's. We're going to have another DOOM game coming to the Switch, and DOOM does have a history of being on Nintendo consoles (SNES, GBA, Doom 64 was an exclusive).

4. A Retro rep: Going with Mach Rider

5. A surprise 3rd Party or Nintendo pick.
 
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I could do a huge explanation but my base expectations are:

1. Square Enix character
2. Namco character
3. First party (female)
4. First party (probably retro)
5. Microsoft or Ubisoft character

Square and Namco are the only two without two unique reps yet so I think they'll fill those in. Geno leading because of all his assests that Sakurai already has permission to use and Sora following if Square wanted to put in the effort as well as get Disney involved (Sora is liscensed by Disney, not Square). Heihachi leading because he was supposedly cut from SSB4 with Llyod following because of the assests from him in SSB4. Elma and Dixie seem like the leading ladies for first party DLC, but I think Sakurai would be more interested in Elma. No clue about the retro character but it's definitely Sakurai's MO to include one. Steve leading Banjo if the supposed Minecraft content is more than spirits. Rayman following these guys because his situation in Smash had always been weird.
 

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So Verge has struck once again saying were getting Steve?, a Dragon Quest character (Slime most likely) and Katalina from Granblue Fantasy.
 

Fane

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Though as they've already said DLC may only stop in 2020, I doubt we'll get season 2.
The initial fighter pack will run through 2020. We'll probably see a pack every 2-3 months.

So it doesn't confirm nor deconfirm the possibility of a second wave of DLC, I'm sure it'll happen though. Nintendo can milk tf out of Ultimate because it's one of their best sellers. Anything they do with it, the fans will still eat it up. Brawl is considered a failure among many, and it was still one of the Wii's best sellers and was overall rated highly.
 

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im so disappointed i dont give a damn any more. especially if these are the last 5 characters in the game, i have 0 hope for anything good. Honestly there better be more than 5 more characters passed this fighter pack.

im expecting we're getting something like toad, waddle dee, a moblin, groose, and animal friends from dk

or maybe a koopa or a goomba, shy guy, a kremling, tingle, and fi.
 
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So Verge has struck once again saying were getting Steve?, a Dragon Quest character (Slime most likely) and Katalina from Granblue Fantasy.
Important distinction is that he's still claiming Square character + Minecraft content, but says Steve, Dragon Quest, and Katalina are still predictions of Hitagi and he can't confirm them himself.

I'll make two predictions, one for if Hitagi is correct and one for if Hitagi is wrong (Verg is most likely right either way):

Hitagi Timeline:

1. Slime
2. Steve
3. Katalina
4. Miscellaneous 1st-party (BWD, Dixie, etc.)
5. Gen VIII Pokemon

No Hitagi Timeline:

1. Geno
2. Banjo & Kazooie
3. Bandana Waddle Dee
4. Dixie Kong
5. Lloyd
 

Gazorpazorpfield

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1) Slime. I'd bet Square pulled some strings to make it happen. My guess is Sakurai approached them over Geno, but they vetoed him in favor of Slime and we'll be seeing him soon. Super popular in Japan, so he's got that going for him. It's mostly just that leakers are talking about a Dragon Quest character, though.
2) Bandana Waddle Dee. I honestly had him pegged for base roster. The dude is an absolute force in Japan, has good popularity around the world, and is a relevant character. I know characters like K. Rool go against the grain with relevancy, but I do still think it matters. I mean, Look at half the Pokemon on the roster. Anyway, i think BWD is in.
3) Steve. I'm with most people in not really wanting him, but i can't deny that he'd be a unique addition, and a huge draw for a lot of non smash fans. If Microsoft is getting a character in, I don't think Banjo would be a priority, unfortunately.
4) Edelgard. Speaking of things I'd rather not see, I can't imagine a Smash game without a new Fire Emblem character. And no, I don't think Chrom quite counts. Given what we know about Corrin's inclusion, I'd say Intelligent Systems kinda does the GameFreak thing: basically yell at Sakurai until he puts one of their new characters in. I think he'll choose Edelgard, as she seems to have a prominent role in the new game, as well as an affinity for axes. This way, nobody can complain about anime swordsmen.
5) That character from the Japanese mobile gacha game. Idk man, it's what the reliable leakers seem to be saying, and I can't really doubt them about it. If westerners can get Ridley, then easterners can get their Granblue Fantasy character. Eye for an eye, I guess.

While I'm at it, I'll throw in my personal picks for dlc, because why not?

1) Banjo and Kazooie. Loved the games, love the characters and their designs, and generally think they'd be fun to play while adding plenty of character to Smash Bros. EZ pick.
2) Paper Mario. I can't understand how he hasn't gotten into Smash yet. He has a bevy of moves and gimmicks he could use, and surely something imaginative and fun would be done with him. Also, he's mario. Everybody knows him, Smash fan or not. His paper form is something totally unique, though, and I think the legacy of his games is easily grounds for an inclusion.
3) Porky. Dude, I just think the spider mech would be cool.
4) Funky Kong. Not even a DK clone, either. So yeah, this one would never happen, but I just think a big ape with a surfboard would be a fun character to tool around with.
5) Master Chief. I know I'm a dirty sinner for this one, but the original Halo games were my jam, and Chief was my guy by extension. I'm not quite sure what they would do with him, but seeing him in the game--along with Martin O'Donnell's legendary music--would kill me. He may not be the most popular among the Nintendo crowd, but I'd be all over it. Also, imagine peoples' reactions. If they thought Cloud was crazy, Chief would blow everyone away. Total pipe dream, though, so I wouldn't bet on it.
 

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Well, honestly I don't know why people try to predict what we got show as unpredictable in the latest direct. I mean, come on. Pirahna Plant?

But, I guess I could add my two cents in this. In order of MAYBE happening but who knows at this point.

1.- Square Character. We could get either Sora, or A Dragon Quest Character, Or Another Final Fantasy character. Or perhaps, if the light shines on us, Geno could might have a chance still if spirits and name tags do not count. So, I'll believe that much.

2.- Namco Character. With this, we may see someone like Lloyd or Heihachi in the regards that we did not see them in any way, shape, or form. And going by the ast with them as Mii Costumes, they could both or at least one join in alongside the likes of :ultkrool:, :ultisabelle: and :ultchrom:. It is possible, in a way.

3.- Ryu Hayabusa. Could be cool and adds to the iconic roster of the 8-Bit era along Simon, Samus, etc.

4.- Saki Amamiya. Maybe, since the AT is no longer there...maybe.

5.- A Random Out There Pick. It can be anyone out there at this point. Who knows. The possibilities are endless.
 
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For anyone predicting characters from Switch games, like Rex, Edelgard, and an ARMS rep, your not getting them. The DLC characters were decided all the way back in 2015; these characters were either in the conceptual phase or just didn't exist at that point. If we get more DLC down the line, then they are possible.

We're pretty much guaranteed to get a Bethesda character as DLC.
Depends on when the meeting happened. If it was 2016 or later, it's not happening. If we get more DLC down the line, then it's possible.

Now to my actual predictions. I have 2 sets, one where Vergebn/Hitagi are correct and one where they aren't.

Vergeben/Hitagi are correct (in no particular order):
1. Square Rep (either Geno, Sora, Agnes, or Slime)
2. Katalina (Granblue Fantasy)
3. Steve (Minecraft)
4. Elma (Xenoblade Chronicles X)
5. Bandana Waddle Dee (Kirby)

Vergeben/Hitagi are not correct (in no particular order):
1. Square Rep (either Geno, Sora, or Agnes)
2. Tails (Sonic)
3. Banjo-Kazooie (Banjo-Kazooie) (*Steve is still a possibility)
4. Elma (Xenoblade Chronicles X)
5. Bandana Waddle Dee (Kirby)

Honorable Mentions:
Rayman (Rayman)
Dixie Kong (Donkey Kong) (*If spirits aren't deconfirmations)
Chorus Kids/ Karate Joe (Rhythm Heaven) (*If spirits aren't deconfirmations)
Bandai Namco Rep (Lloyd, Heihachi, or KOS-MOS)
 

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Where did Hitagi say something about Katalina?
Don't have the link to the post, but Vergeben brought it up in here:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/77160319/911662575
I should probably state that Senjougahara__Hitagi (who has a great track record if you look into them on reddit, and is someone I talk to and crosscheck things with since we have met) has heard the same things for Smash that I have.
The only difference in our information has been them hearing that Steve from Minecraft will be playable and discussions with Cygames were happening to get a Granblue Fantasy character (which seems to be Katalina in particular) into Super Smash Bros. Ultimate.
 

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Best guess?

1. Rex and Pyra/Mythra (I think the Mii costume is big evidence to the fact that they are working on this. It's almost like they're saying, "Here's this while we finish the real thing."
2. Rayman (This probably started right after the success of Mario+Rabbids.)
3. Geno/Sora (Praying for the former, would be excited for fans of the latter)
4. Banjo/Steve (I could see the former with AT and spirits of the latter.)
5. A Golden Sun rep (https://www.change.org/p/nintendo-neverlosehope-isaac-from-golden-sun-for-super-smash-bros-ultimate)
 

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My predictions:

1.Sora
2.Microsoft Rep (Hopefully Banjo)
3.Namco Rep (Don't care for Namco, but it is most likely)
4.Elma
5.Bandana Dee

I also hope Fire Emblem doesn't get any more reps as it is already over represented. Pokémon has enough too. Mario also has more than enough, but I would make the exception with Geno as his fans have fought for so long to have him playable so they deserve it!
 

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Prediction:

1. Bandanna Dee
2. Dixie Kong
3. Geno
4. Rayman
5. Banjo-Kazooie

Reality:

1. Fire Emblem Three Houses protag
2. Xenoblade character
3. Gen 8 Pokemon
4. Dr. Baby Metal Pink Gold Luigi
5. Minecraft Steve
 
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1. Bandana Waddle Dee, isn't assist or spirit ik he's a chance
2. Geno, spirits don't disconfirm characters there's a Male WIi Fit Trainer as a spirit in the direct
3. Banjo Kazooie, we need him
4. Issac, please Sakurai put him in and remove the assist
5. Waluigi, same as Issac
 
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