Fuujin
Smash Champion
HERP DERP BUT LINK HAZ a BAD RECOVERY
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The Drama Thread
- Thread starter Alacion
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HERP DERP BUT LINK HAZ a BAD RECOVERY
Which means... Link > Zelda.
Okay? Think we all knew that. Believe it or not I'm actually on your side in this...
Fuujin
Smash Champion
Sorry just using every other Zelda's logic as to why Zelda beats Link.
HAY FUUJIN
ENTERTAINING THREAD
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=310041
Some Australian's are dumb imo.
ENTERTAINING THREAD
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=310041
Some Australian's are dumb imo.
Fuujin
Smash Champion
You should invite AD3PT here.
He'd fit right in.
He'd fit right in.
Aw we missed out on the fun. Somebody needs to make a new thread.
I should have told you guys about it, but I thought I did a pretty good job. o:
To Ed:
So apparently the new MU chart is gonna have writeups! Should we be super hyped about this!? And is it coming out anytime soon? :3
So apparently the new MU chart is gonna have writeups! Should we be super hyped about this!? And is it coming out anytime soon? :3
Fuujin
Smash Champion
O lawd.
I can see the low tiers/characters that no one uses having some really inaccurate write ups.
#HBC | Scary
Hype Incarnate
Oh geez it is? Haven't been back there in a good minute lol.
Sonic The Hedgedawg
Smash Hero
Are they at least having people remotely familiar with the characters do the writeups?
Fuujin
Smash Champion
Curious about what Scary wrote for the Lucas MU after this ordeal.
RaqTasmeneth
Smash Apprentice
If I say Jigglypuff is 0 for Zelda does that make me bias? 
*serious face* Jigglypuff is -1 Zelda. Rollout all day and it completely destroys her.
Gadiel_VaStar
Smash Champion
Yo Zeldas I'm thinking of picking up Sheik/Zelda again. If you didn't know, I used to main Zelda and I helped discover Love Jump with this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk97cjCxylg My old tag was goodkid, but I wanted something a little more mature so people would take me serious so that's where my new tag came from. I also did the Farore's Boost, but I think it's just a quick b-reversal before up-b now.
^I dunno you but it's the guy who discovered Love Jump!? I'm honoured and welcome back!
Sonic The Hedgedawg
Smash Hero
Ummmm. Zwhat?
Sonic The Hedgedawg
Smash Hero
Unrelated note: I love the charging animation for Jiggly's Dsmash
Aerial Sing/Rest wrecks all our approaches.
RaqTasmeneth
Smash Apprentice
@Hedgedawg No I'm pretty sure it was related. Super Centrifugal action reveals Zelda's panties for a +2 In zelda's favour depending on dat sexual preference
welcome! [we all] hope you stick around.
also i don't know what to do with this thread. it had nice discussion but seems to have gone off topic.
in what ways can zelda's metagame be improved?
KayLo!
Smarter than your average wabbit.
In case you're like me and never check your messages: I replied to your PM.
AlMoStLeGeNdArY
Smash Hero
If you feel as though the thread has run it's course why don't you lock it ? You're the mod around these parts right?
As for Zelda's metagame improvement I believe that being extremely proficient with Nair will be the best thing for Zelda's metagame. Being able to consistently get whatever move you want out of it. As well as more Uthrow shennigans and being really strong put your opponent in bad situations that Zelda can capitalize on.
KayLo!
Smarter than your average wabbit.
I'm sorry, did you just say uthrow shenanigans will be one of the best things for Zelda's metagame? x.o
AlMoStLeGeNdArY
Smash Hero
Yeah, Kaylo I don't mean the stuff that was posted in the one of the old threads. What I mean is putting your opponent into a bad position and while putting Zelda in a good position. I called it shenanigans because it's going to take a hard read for Zelda to benefit from it thus me calling them shenanigans. I truly believe though to improve Zelda's potential you must maximize your advantages & options while at the same time limiting your opponents and still be able to mask Zelda's weakness.
Everybody please report to:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=290293
and explain why Din's Fire is predictable. They're saying Din's ISN'T predictable >__>
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=290293
and explain why Din's Fire is predictable. They're saying Din's ISN'T predictable >__>
Ice Prince
Smash Cadet
^Din's Fire IS quite predictable, and I've learned this with maybe a month's worth of Zelda time.
Being a newcomer to Smash in general, you pick up on that pretty quickly if Zelda is what you consider as your "main". It's a mixed bag--more times than not, it's easy to predict when it's going to come out. If there's character clutter/distance, and sometimes for item effect (blowing up bombs, etc).
Stage placement is key, and your opponent can see it inching towards them a mile away, especially if it's a greater distance placement. It's not a reliable close up tool either, as it can easily be guarded (and you'll more than likely get Smash'd in the face beforehand). It's an effective tool, but it's one you have to try and be tricky with.
Being a newcomer to Smash in general, you pick up on that pretty quickly if Zelda is what you consider as your "main". It's a mixed bag--more times than not, it's easy to predict when it's going to come out. If there's character clutter/distance, and sometimes for item effect (blowing up bombs, etc).
Stage placement is key, and your opponent can see it inching towards them a mile away, especially if it's a greater distance placement. It's not a reliable close up tool either, as it can easily be guarded (and you'll more than likely get Smash'd in the face beforehand). It's an effective tool, but it's one you have to try and be tricky with.
Wow what is with all these new Zelda board posters lately! Time for the Zelda board revival!? Welcome to the Zelda boards Ice Prince!
Only redeeming qualities for Din's is that it must be reacted to each time (or take tons of damage) and it's good offstage pressure. I suppose it can stop many incoming projectiles too.
Only redeeming qualities for Din's is that it must be reacted to each time (or take tons of damage) and it's good offstage pressure. I suppose it can stop many incoming projectiles too.
Ice Prince
Smash Cadet
Well thank you Courier.
Btw, I like your playstyle--quite similar to how I (and I'm sure many others) try to approach Zelda. Nice vids boo.
Btw, I like your playstyle--quite similar to how I (and I'm sure many others) try to approach Zelda. Nice vids boo.
Haha thanks. I'm still relatively new to Brawl and always trying to improve (atm. DI and reads) and refine my playstyle.
Ice Prince
Smash Cadet
Indeed--same here.
My Zelda game seems solid enough as of now--I'm still learning Sheik as well. One main problem I seem to have with Sheik is that after guarding placement, I find it difficult to smash in comparison to Zelda. I like Zelda's guard spacing much more than I do Sheik. On the other hand, it's easier to box a character in with Sheik when you play a bit more aggressively. Needle timing and timed rushes make for a fun time, but I'm going to need to watch some vids for good Sheik stuff.
I just really like how Zelda plays in comparison to Sheik. Zelda seems to zone really well, and it's easy to cause some headaches if she's got some distance for Din's Fire barrage. Her guard placements make using ^Smash easy enough, followed with some hop kicks. Whereas with Sheik, I've always seen her primarily as a hit and run character with good spacing tools.
My Zelda game seems solid enough as of now--I'm still learning Sheik as well. One main problem I seem to have with Sheik is that after guarding placement, I find it difficult to smash in comparison to Zelda. I like Zelda's guard spacing much more than I do Sheik. On the other hand, it's easier to box a character in with Sheik when you play a bit more aggressively. Needle timing and timed rushes make for a fun time, but I'm going to need to watch some vids for good Sheik stuff.
I just really like how Zelda plays in comparison to Sheik. Zelda seems to zone really well, and it's easy to cause some headaches if she's got some distance for Din's Fire barrage. Her guard placements make using ^Smash easy enough, followed with some hop kicks. Whereas with Sheik, I've always seen her primarily as a hit and run character with good spacing tools.
Ah.. Sheik. Kinda the opposite of Zelda making her (?) difficult to learn. I was a little skeptical, but learning Sheik wass definitely worthwhile although I use her less and less now. I prefer using Peach rather than Sheik when needed (generally Olimar, and sometimes Diddy if I need to mix things up) but having Sheik at your disposal at any time during a game is quite an asset.
I find that Sheik excels as a punisher. She is so quick that any minute mistake can be fatal. I think the number one thing that people want to learn is the DACUS. Very difficult to learn if you do attempt it. I'm somewhat decent at it now, but it took a month of practising. First two weeks yielded no results for me whatsoever, but it was worth it... DACUS is incredibly helpful to Sheik. It is quite a bother for me to brush up on DACUS once in a while... I seem to lose it if I don't practise it for a couple weeks.
I also prefer using Zelda over Sheik like you... her playstyle is just more fun to me (although I wonder why because it is rather... simple and bland).
As for Sheik videos, there aren't too much of those around. You can try the video thread in the Sheik boards. Definitely watch Ed's vids... they're very inspirational especially for Sheilda players since he plays both!
I don't think the Sheik boards are that great though... the people there seem... kind of distant and not very willing to help newer players. There was this one time a newbie asked for help, and one guy told him that not only was the video a waste of time but he was terrible and should drop Sheik... >_>
They could really use a guide to Sheik too. All my Sheik experience came from CPUs and then I brought her out one day in offline games only to be told my Sheik was already much better than my Zelda.
(it's really late and I hope w/e I typed up makes sense lol)
I find that Sheik excels as a punisher. She is so quick that any minute mistake can be fatal. I think the number one thing that people want to learn is the DACUS. Very difficult to learn if you do attempt it. I'm somewhat decent at it now, but it took a month of practising. First two weeks yielded no results for me whatsoever, but it was worth it... DACUS is incredibly helpful to Sheik. It is quite a bother for me to brush up on DACUS once in a while... I seem to lose it if I don't practise it for a couple weeks.
I also prefer using Zelda over Sheik like you... her playstyle is just more fun to me (although I wonder why because it is rather... simple and bland).
As for Sheik videos, there aren't too much of those around. You can try the video thread in the Sheik boards. Definitely watch Ed's vids... they're very inspirational especially for Sheilda players since he plays both!
I don't think the Sheik boards are that great though... the people there seem... kind of distant and not very willing to help newer players. There was this one time a newbie asked for help, and one guy told him that not only was the video a waste of time but he was terrible and should drop Sheik... >_>
They could really use a guide to Sheik too. All my Sheik experience came from CPUs and then I brought her out one day in offline games only to be told my Sheik was already much better than my Zelda.
(it's really late and I hope w/e I typed up makes sense lol)
Ice Prince
Smash Cadet
Haha it did indeed! I've got CPU exp, and some friends and I play occasionally. I get a good mix of character vs experience there as well (Lucas, Donkey Kong, Lucario, Fox, Falco, Ike, Captain Falcon are the typical ones I see). I definitely prefer Zelda when it's a 4 way battle, then when it drops down to 1 vs 1, that's typically when I like to bring Sheik out.
Main reason is that I find Zelda the better option for a melee brawl. She's excellent at keep away, especially if it's a large stage. Then with Sheik, I'm usually able to outpace and needle barrage until I see a good opening to punish. I also find that in 4 way melee, her charged attacks seem to leave her vulnerable when you've got 2 others around just waiting to smack you. I'm just better suited with her for 1 on 1 I suppose.
You are correct though--she's very easy to punish with, especially if your opponent misses a charged Smash.
Main reason is that I find Zelda the better option for a melee brawl. She's excellent at keep away, especially if it's a large stage. Then with Sheik, I'm usually able to outpace and needle barrage until I see a good opening to punish. I also find that in 4 way melee, her charged attacks seem to leave her vulnerable when you've got 2 others around just waiting to smack you. I'm just better suited with her for 1 on 1 I suppose.
You are correct though--she's very easy to punish with, especially if your opponent misses a charged Smash.
JigglyZelda003
Smash Hero
most of my offline play tends to be FFA. its why im usually Zelda as its hard to group control more than one person as Sheik. i'm trying to work at my Sheik game though, i've even figured out how Dacus works on my controller...now i just have to get my fingers to remember how to do it from standstill and shield rather than buffer run.
Ice Prince
Smash Cadet
^Agreed--Sheik isn't so much fun on crowd control. Seems like everytime I start to get some momentum, I get intercepted and more than likely smashed out if I've got 100% damage or more. Zelda is definitely easier for crowd control. I really wish Sheik's teleport worked more like Zelda's as well. I mean, she can tether with chain, but still. That teleport puts me in some horrid spots sometimes, simply because I'm thinking I'll end up further spaced, or higher up, etc (since I'm primarily with Zelda). DACUS training is tedious--I'm starting to get the hang of it more. I guess I should be thankful that I'm usually alright with just a buffer run for it since I tend to be a bit more cautious and do hit and run with Sheik until it's just 1 on 1. I'm usually able to beast pretty well when it's just one on one with needle spam and guard spacing follow ups.
I know I get barked at when I start doing Din's Fire spam in the corner on everybody haha. I'm like well--she's bottom tier, so step ya game up then!
I know I get barked at when I start doing Din's Fire spam in the corner on everybody haha. I'm like well--she's bottom tier, so step ya game up then!