Social The Charizard Social: Merry Switchmas!

[Rockaphin]

As someone who was really looking forwards to Charizard, I have to say that I'm quite disappointed. I'm not really liking his playstyle and ultimately, I fail to successfully use him.

 

[Spinosaurus]

I'm having a lot of fun with him personally. So underrated.

 

[relaxedexcorcist]

My group of friends are all playing one of the pokemon so I've been trying to pick up Charizard. He's pretty fun. FSmash kills sooooo nice and early. I love it. I also love that a majority of the For Glory players I play against quit after losing two or three matches to him.

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

I am so salty.

I had a big post typed out for my evaluation of custom moves and I lost it rofl. So I guess I'll just re-type it after class tonight. Or I'll at least address Dragon Rush, Rising Cyclone, Fire Fang and Rock Hurl (the ones that actually matter).

 

[Sapphire Dragon]

I am so salty.

I had a big post typed out for my evaluation of custom moves and I lost it rofl. So I guess I'll just re-type it after class tonight. Or I'll at least address Dragon Rush, Rising Cyclone, Fire Fang and Rock Hurl (the ones that actually matter).

http://getlazarus.com/download

This has saved me many, many times. May it help you forever too ~

 

[Shog]

So I two-stocked a Little Mac player in For Glory after he two-stocked me one round beforehand. I never felt so proud before :3 Punishing there rolls with FlareBlitz and abusing the mighty up tilt is what makes me so glad I chose Charizard as a main

 

[Banryu]

After I realized Charizard was in Brawl he quickly clawed out Meta Knight for my favorite character in the game, and he's only gotten better here. Old news is old, but Charizard feels SO much better and more powerful, and I love it. My practice with Zard in Brawl really seems to be paying off, too, as I catch a lot of people off guard in online For Glory with him.

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

Punish style characters typically do well in online settings.

You should join the Nintendojo ladder if you haven't yet.

 

[AustarusIV]

I think I've only seen one Charizard online during my time playing, and that was in a two-on-two versus match in For Glory.

He doesn't seem to be a very popular character, unfortunately. I usually see either Greninja or Lucario instead.

 

[Spinosaurus]

I think I've only seen one Charizard online during my time playing, and that was in a two-on-two versus match in For Glory.

He doesn't seem to be a very popular character, unfortunately. I usually see either Greninja or Lucario instead.

In general characters that require patience and knowing when to punish like Wario, Charizard and Jigglypuff are pretty unpopular online.

I play all of them. lol

 

[Banryu]

Punish style characters typically do well in online settings.

You should join the Nintendojo ladder if you haven't yet.

Just to clarify, is this addressed at anyone in particular or the frequenters of the thread in general?

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

Everyone here.

 

[Saikyoshi]

He's so much more comfortable to use than he is in Brawl or even P:M. Flare Blitz is so much better than Heat Wave, and New Rock Smash is so much better than P:M Fly (and Brawl Rock Smash).

I need a quick opinion, though; I noticed I start using Flare Blitz a lot more when:

• I'm ahead of my opponent by one stock (or more on non-FG modes)
• I'm already at kill percentages

So basically, I use it as a "nothing to lose" tactic to secure as big of a lead as I possibly can before I inevitably get KO'd, like Super Smash Flash 2 Goku's Kaio-Ken. Is this a decent idea or foolhardy?

 

[Spinosaurus]

I really disagree about this Rock Smash being better than the old Rock Smash.

Brawl Rock Smash was a phenomenal move. The new one is solid but it kinda lost its utility.

 

[Saikyoshi]

Did it have super armor back then? Because I can't remember.

 

[-LzR-]

Brawl Rock Smash is the most overrated move in Smash history. No one seemed to look beyond it's insane damage because the move was situational.
Now in Smash 4 the move is one of the most reliable sources of super armor while still dealing a lot of damage. The move is insanely good now.

 

[Rockaphin]

I think it's somewhat better now, but I think it has more ending frames than previously. The super armor is where the move shines IMO.

EDIT: So what seems to be some reliable ways to approach the opponent? I try to play Charizard defensively, but sometimes I need to approach the opponent for a mix-up game.

 

[Spinosaurus]

Brawl Rock Smash is the most overrated move in Smash history. No one seemed to look beyond it's insane damage because the move was situational.
Now in Smash 4 the move is one of the most reliable sources of super armor while still dealing a lot of damage. The move is insanely good now.

Except that Brawl Rock Smash didn't stop your momentum and a well spaced one was very hard to punish because of the pebbles having more range.

Super armor is the only thing this Rock Smash has.

 

[Saikyoshi]

Except that Brawl Rock Smash didn't stop your momentum and a well spaced one was very hard to punish because of the pebbles having more range.

Super armor is the only thing this Rock Smash has.

And it's a very important thing that it has. The thing about Brawl RS was that the STARTUP left you wide open.

 

[Spinosaurus]

And it's a very important thing that it has. The thing about Brawl RS was that the STARTUP left you wide open.

I'm not denying that super armor is important, though.

The rock came out on frame 3 in Brawl, by the way.

 

[Saikyoshi]

I'm not denying that super armor is important, though.

The rock came out on frame 3 in Brawl, by the way.

The head smash, the part that actually did damage, came out later.

 

[Spinosaurus]

The head smash, the part that actually did damage, came out later.

It's not any different from Smash 4 then. :V

We really need frame data.

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

Very big tournament approaching in my area this weekend so I won't be on as much. In the lab, so to speak. I might hit up a few people for some games though. After this weekend, I will be focusing on the guide. Getting the frame data is proving to be a real pain though.

 

[Xyless]

Good luck Tech Chase! Charizard's probably becoming my main, I love his new moveset, and rock smash has insanely usable super armor now (and up B having invincibility still is nice for getting out of combos).

I'm sad Ivysaur didn't make the cut, but what're you gonna do

 

[-LzR-]

I also miss Ivysaur. My favorite of the 3 pokemon.
I didn't know upB had invincibility. I thought it was just armor like in Brawl.

 

[Xyless]

oh, it could be armor. I'm pretty sure it just kept the same property as it did in Brawl. Point is, it gives him an out for some combos, which is important for a character of his bulk.

 

[Rockaphin]

It seems that the sweetspot to spike on Dair is stricter than in Brawl.

 

[-LzR-]

But the move itself is much easier to hit with now. I get so many Dair kills.

 

[The Real Gamer]

I get Dair spikes for days.

 

[Shog]

Argh is here ANYONE from Europe and a Charizard Main? I faced some in Asia, some in the US, but the lag gets us both. For the love of Arceus, is somebody here from Europe

(And did you know that you can F-smash into Meta-Knights Side B? That's amazin)

 

[-LzR-]

I am a European Charizard.

 

[Spinosaurus]

I'm in Ireland and I have Charizard as my secondary.

Also today is the first time I ever got Zard's dair spike lol
I don't usually go for it. Used to a character without a spike.

 

[ZTD | TECHnology]

Good luck Tech Chase! Charizard's probably becoming my main, I love his new moveset, and rock smash has insanely usable super armor now (and up B having invincibility still is nice for getting out of combos).

I'm sad Ivysaur didn't make the cut, but what're you gonna do

There's a face I haven't seen in forever. And thanks!

 

[YeahVeryeah]

Very big tournament approaching in my area this weekend so I won't be on as much. In the lab, so to speak. I might hit up a few people for some games though. After this weekend, I will be focusing on the guide. Getting the frame data is proving to be a real pain though.

You're basically our mascot, so make us proud

 

[The Real Gamer]

TC is our spirit animal.

 

[Shog]

So TC Charizard is the best charizard here? Make us proud! Would love to see your recorded replays!

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Wish I could say I mained Zard but I play him equally with Lucario.

Do we have a skype group by chance?

 

[The Real Gamer]

I'd be down to join/make a Skype group

I need to play a bunch of you.

 

[SkyboundTerror]

Ah, sweet, I'd like in as well. It'd be be a faster way to get Charizard dittos going.

 

[Sapphire Dragon]

I just set up a group in skype. Send me your usernames. Mine is SapphireRyu