The benefits of playing CPU's

[-ACE-]

So we all already know why practicing against CPU's is BAAAAAAAAD. There are, however, ways to practice with CPU's without being counter-productive to your gameplay.

For instance... years ago, as Ganon, I would practice chaingrabbing lvl 1 spacies quite often. For those of you that don't know, they will DI Ganon's dthrow behind you every time. So I was able to practice pivot>dash>jc grab (out of dthrow) to regrab a spacie that DI's behind, which is the hardest regrab to get (harder to distinguish between partial/full DI behind, and you have to dash close to frame perfect out of dthrow + you lose at least 1 frame from the pivot). You also get valuable practice timing your dash, which is huge imo. It definitely helped me master Ganon's chaingrab.

Chaingrabbing lvl 9 fox with marth gives you an opportunity to practice your mandatory pivot regrabs (when fox is at 20-25% ish???) as fox hardly ever DI's marth's uthrow (goes straight up).

Playing vs lvl 9 luigi can teach you to avoid getting nair'd out of combos... lol

Have any of you used the CPU's consistency to your advantage in training? how?

 

[40secondz]

I've heard training on level 7's is better than level 9's because of their DI.

 

[-ACE-]

I haven't practiced much with 7's so feel free to elaborate. There's nothing wrong with practicing against 9's for certain situations (like the marth example above); just learn their consistencies at various lvl's and use that to master certain tactics... i guess. lol

 

[Tekk]

Level 3 CPU's do random DI all the time, helps me practice chaingrabs and basic combos.

 

[KirbyKaze]

LV9s give you an idea of when Peach/Luigi/Samus/characters can nair to escape combos.

 

[Mr Wizzrobe]

I like intentionally avoiding Lvl 9 CPUs to improve my speed on stage, and overall evasion and spacing.

 

[SuperMatt]

i practice falco combos on lvl 7 fox mostly on yoshi's story and FoD

 

[Pi]

level 7 falcon's side B at a certain spacing like 70% of the time
so you can practice things that are related to them side Bing lol

i pshield it into stuff huehue

 

[MuraRengan]

I practiced with cpus for about 4 years before I got a consistent source of real players to train with. My tech skill and improvisational combo ability is much better than most people I know, and I credit that to practicing with CPUs.

 

[Mr.Jackpot]

I practiced with CPU's for half a year before I could finally play someone my level, I started avoiding lvl9's when I realized that they were making me shield roll all the time with their jab spamming.

 

[Mr Wizzrobe]

I practiced with CPU's for half a year before I could finally play someone my level, I started avoiding lvl9's when I realized that they were making me shield roll all the time with their jab spamming.

That is probably the most annoying thing of all time.

IMO unless you're training something situational or specific by abusing common things that CPU's do, there's no reason at all to fight them, and you're only hurting yourself by doing so.

 

[40secondz]

I hate their jab spam. THAT'S ALL THEY DO. :fuuu:

 

[Mr.Jackpot]

That is probably the most annoying thing of all time.

IMO unless you're training something situational or specific by abusing common things that CPU's do, there's no reason at all to fight them, and you're only hurting yourself by doing so.

When you're trying to practice competive Melee without anyone to play it's the only thing to do. Luckily I have go to tournaments and have training partners now.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

I play against LV1s all the time just to make sure my movement and combos don't get rusty.

 

[GhllieShdeKnife]

ics can get alot of control practicing by themselves, lvl 1s dont really get in the way if your trying to practice control and spacing

 

[choknater]

you just have to have a certain goal when playing cpu's

that's when it's productive

 

[SupaSairentoZ7℠]

I just prefer to use them for DI, combo, and power shielding.

 

[GhllieShdeKnife]

DI?
could you explain this or am i missing something
your DI their DI , smash DI

 

[Varist]

If you want to practice comboing, or chain-grabs, or similar things, you need to practice reacting to an opponent's DI. For things like Marth's chain grabbing, your enemy will try to DI up or behind you or whatever, and CPUs of different levels have different DI preferences which you can use to practice things like pivot regrabs on a CPU's consistent behind-DI, or another CPU's consistent up and in DI, or whatever. People use CPUS like 7 (and 3?) for random DI, so they can practice different options for different DIs off something like a grab or Falco's dair or whatever.

 

[-ACE-]

Can you guys recommending playing against 3's or 7's be a little more specific about what you use them for? I don't really get the "random DI" claim here. With ganon's dthrow and marth's uthrow, level 3 falco DI's just as a level 1 would (behind ganon, slightly behind marth), and level 7 falco DI's just as a level 9 would (first one slight behind, the rest straight up/no DI), every time. I can see that after some hits their DI is random (or at least it changes). Are there any particular setups/combos that 3's or 7's serve as good practice for?

 

[stelzig]

afaik it's supposed to be level 4 and not level 3. Even then though it does have DI tendencies, but it does ocasionally DI differently.

 

[Mr Wizzrobe]

Can you guys recommending playing against 3's or 7's be a little more specific about what you use them for? I don't really get the "random DI" claim here. With ganon's dthrow and marth's uthrow, level 3 falco DI's just as a level 1 would (behind ganon, slightly behind marth), and level 7 falco DI's just as a level 9 would (first one slight behind, the rest straight up/no DI), every time. I can see that after some hits their DI is random (or at least it changes). Are there any particular setups/combos that 3's or 7's serve as good practice for?

Falcon and Falco benefit way more than Ganon would. Ganon's combos aren't as complex or lengthy.

 

[-ACE-]

Yeah I understand that lol